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Comentado por 1841

This Aspect doesn't have very much use unfortunately.

But it's great to use it if you're carrying the flag in a Battleground for example, that way other hunters can't track and find you. :)
Your pets can be tracked though, so Dismiss them if you're hiding with a flag.

Comentado por 33684

I never really liked the idea of skills that are pretty much only useful against your same class.
What's the point? Let's say the skill/talent in question were removed from the game, nothing would change, as both you and your opponent would lose the skill.

Maybe if the idea were developed further so classes could spec a certain way to become their own class killers, but as it stands now it's mostly just a waste of action bar space.

Comentado por 111622

Does this over-ride Hunter's Mark?

Comentado por 143514

Also very usefull for horde hunting or being camped by other hunters if you @#$% of the wrong crowd run around with this at least you cant be tracked. Or if hunters that are camping you if you can get out of view rez and throw on this aspect it can give you enough time to mount and run or make them assume you spirit rezed and leave.

Comentado por Mitokok

Best aspect for hide and seek.

Comentado por 99439

I used it to enter in Stormwind, so i don't think this aspect is unuseful...
It is unuseful just for pve

Comentado por 122976

It appears they have taken this limited use ability and buffed it with 10% MELEE attack power buff. Ummm ok can someone please explain a situation I want this melee buff?

Comentado por 193622

errr... wouldn't it be nice if the hunter got 'weak' stealth effect so it will be more usable, and the stealth effect will break if you move/in combat/ just more like rogue or like Night elf shadowmelt but more weak.

Comentado por 129

Hunters aren't the best flag carriers. While we do have many tools in our arsenal to help us stay mobile, they're not always effective when an entire team of 10 is after you, unlike a Feral Druid. Mind Vision makes this Aspect moot for flag carrying anyway.

In the expansion, this Aspect will carry a 10% melee attack power buff, which, unfortunately, is still useless.

Comentado por Ecwfrk

Aspect of the Beast has been removed in the latest (8926) Beta build.

Comentado por Ohforf

In the expansion, this Aspect will carry a 10% melee attack power buff, which, unfortunately, is still useless.

They seem to agree, since as of the newest changes, Aspect of the Beast has been removed.

Comentado por 207930

I don't know about you but I liked it. Used it alot in STV to avoid some of the other hunters ganking me...

Comentado por Ohforf

As of Build 9014, they added it again:

* Aspect of the Beast has been changed and re-added to the game. The hunter takes on the aspects of a beast, becoming untrackable and increasing melee attack power of the hunter and the hunter's pet by 10%. Only one Aspect can be active at a time.

Still useless though.

Comentado por samarium

This is fun for those times when you get tired of shooting from so far away you have to squint to read mob names and decide it's time to grab life by the short hairs and cut it up into itty bitty bits.

Also good for boosting weapon skills while simultaneously levelling your brand new magically-level-65 pet.

Comentado por 151059

It's nice to use when your pet is having trouble keeping agro.

Comentado por 139482

As of 3.0.3, this skill is bugged and your pet will gain 21% AP instead of the 10% listed.

This is reported to be fixed in 3.0.8.

Comentado por madcow014

so does aspect of the beast work in battlegrounds? or just against hunters using track humanoids?

Comentado por Sindayven

Not a bad ability when used with Bestial Wrath and Kill Command.

Comentado por 267194

I like it when my pet does alot of damage so im using this throughout my leveling, so i wont be using aspect of the hawk or dragonhawk

Comentado por 153790

Its a pretty nice aspect especially for BM hunters and aspect of the dragonhawk gives my hunter + 30 dps but this gives pet +40 dps from what i can see so i think if you dont want to be pulling agro from your pet this is the way to go.

Comentado por 30263

Hunters in cities of the opposing faction can benefit from this aspect against other hunters, such as Horde players trying to fish for Old Ironjaw in Ironforge for the achievement.

Comentado por 317120

This skill is listed as a Rogue Skill...obviously, this is a hunter skill.

WTB Fix

Comentado por 131430

well here what I want you guys to test is:
Get in 25 men as beastmaster , get fully buffed up , after those buffs
keep using dragonhawk aspect but everytime you gonna activate bestial wrath also switch your aspect to the beast one , after BW ends switch your aspect back to dragonhawk again.
You will be happier in the end ,)

PS: with only self buffs ( for example while testing this on dummies ) difference wont be fine enough while testing aspect switching but the difference is really cool in 25 mens after getting all buffs.

Comentado por 238371

The only time the 10% melee AP would come in handy is if you're stupid and didn't grab some more ammo last time you were in town and have since run out. Still, untrackable has something to say for the flag carrying hunter hiding in the fort, right?

Comentado por 422867

I think AotB is great (4 PvP at least!), here's why:

WSG - get into enemy base undetected, get flag, get out and cap flag without havin 2 worry bout a hunter or drood pwning u on the way back, also good if u need 2 wait 4 ur flag 2 return while holding thers (u can hide and not get caught even with hunters mark on u!)

AB - u can go from base 2 base capping as u go, and sneak around without being noticed so u can get the suprise jump on someone (meaning with this buff u can make a successful "it came from the bush, ambush"!... if u sit down anyway :P)

AV - can sneak around the midfield fights and head straight behind enemy lines, also u can get past those annoying hunters and droods that try 2 kill u if u lost a gy, got sent WAY back and need 2 catch up wiv the grp (yes, it is EXTREMELY annoying when this happens and u die half-way back!)

EotS - not used as much but can b used 2 sneak from towers-ruins

SotA - VERY little usage but is sometimes used 2 make sneak attacks on hunters/droods or 2 man a vehicle without being noticed

NOTES:

- Increases pet dmg more than IAotH/DH
- Hav noticed that in bgs it's always the hunter or drood that gives the alerts 4 incs, etc. (4 obvious reason) and using this, u can make a successful suprise attack. By the time they start spamming bg chat... its 2 late
- Great 4 melee hunters (obviously) and if u r a melee hunter this can b 4 PvE and dungeon(s) also, but be warned that most raid grps will generally not accept melee hunters, gl anyway :D (gotta <3 dual speccing :P)

Comentado por 23449

Melee Hunter missed this improvement by 2 expansions

Comentado por 258919

A situational aspect, at best. This can be useful for carrying the flag in WSG. But then again, you may want Aspect of the Pack more (for increased movement speed) or Aspect of the Monkey (to a lesser extent, for blocking). If you know for a fact that you are being tracked by a druid or hunter, you can click this on and lose them (useful on PvP servers).

But overall, the most useless aspect in the game.

Comentado por 350904

I don't know that a 'vid' would show it, but in my current gear (mostly ToC10/25 level), in the hunter spreadsheet, this ends up looking like a 25 DPS gain -- about .5% of my DPS. (The online spreadsheet, Zeherah's Hunter DPS SpreadSheet, has this as an option in the Settings panel.)

Obviously this is in an ideal situation; generally, I find that I max out at about 85% of the spreadsheet max on non-gimmicky (Twin Valkyrs doesn't count, for example) fights.

The key benefit that you'll see here is "MOAR BURST"; with Aspects being off the GCD, you can macro this together, and you'll automatically get extra pet burst for the times you need it. Essentially, you're trading ranged AP (and some dodge) for pet AP; in the times when your pet is near what you want to be attacking, and you have to be moving, or aren't in range, this could be useful.

If we imagine the situation where you're chasing down a flag carrier, for example: running across the map takes about 1 minute. We'll remove steady shots from our rotation; for the most part, you can't use them while chasing someone down. We can't remove auto-shots, but the spreadsheet tells us how much they are. So, in my current gear, with a one minute fight, default rotation, etc. my DPS is 4133 hunter, 3287 pet. If we remove autoshots, (2634), the hunter is down to 1499, and the pet is still the same. We can't model DPS loss due to being outrun.) If we switch on the "Aspect of the Beast switching" flag, the DPS changes; pet DPS goes up to 3315. This extra bit of DPS over the course of a minute equates to an extra 168 damage from the pet during the 10 seconds TBW is up; nothing to write home about, admittedly, but the little things like this do count. When you're lagging behind, and can't catch up -- and your rocket boots are on cooldown, but your pet's 'dash' isn't -- popping TBW and attaching Aspect of the Beast to it might give you that little bit of extra damage to get that flag carrier down.

In a PvE situation, especially where the hunter can stand back and pew pew, the smaller gain probably isn't worth it for the risk of not switching back as soon as TBW is up, though I'm sure many hunters can manage this fine. However, for some scenarios, a TBW/Aspect of the Beast combo may give a useful situational buff to pet damage when hunter damage is more limited and less useful.

Comentado por mangletooth

Anyone else find it weird aspect of the beast makes us untrackable, despite hunters learning track beasts at level 2?

Comentado por Thottbot

How is this ability to use, i don't understad it

Comentado por Thottbot

How exactly does this aid the Hunter? or a better question would be when is a Hunter tracked?

Comentado por Thottbot

I assume it would be useful in PVP against other hunters. But that's about it.

Comentado por Thottbot

this pack is ok i onlyuse it when i have a raid only hunters and we got to moonbrook and go to the roof and use it thats about it though....

Comentado por Thottbot

druids also have tracking, in cat form.

Comentado por Thottbot

Yup! It only means you don't appear on the minimap, you don't actually turn invisible.

Comentado por Thottbot

WSG= Warsong Gulch and this could be handy if you're the flagman and ppl want to find ya (hordes) to kill you and get ur flag.. Besides druids can track too..

Comentado por Thottbot

This aspect, while not used often, has come in handy in some vital situations, all of them PvP. If you go AFK in a contested or opposite faction zone, it's always helpful in case that random hunter wanders by. Basically, this a hunters-stretgth-against-other-hunters aspect. And seeing as hunters are a popular choice (or at least on my server) for both factions, it's good to have. As said, this is also good for Warsong. Overall, it's not amazing, but it's worth the one-time cost at lev 30 to get.

Malcious Destruction shall destroy all horde ;P

Comentado por Thottbot

Lol that was funny ok really would it be good for a first time hunter to get it or should i stick to aspect of the cheetah for fast escapes.

Comentado por Thottbot

does Aspect of the Beast make you totally untracktable? Or does it make you immune to Humanoid tracking?

Does the hunter just need to flip on his Beast tracking in order to see you on his minimap?

Comentado por Thottbot

when i play mt hunter my track humunoid is always up. as a hunter you find yourself looking at the mini map more then the actually screen. i rely on that mini map. track beast deamons humans. i can most horde before they even notice me. a hunter is beyond good when they get the first strike.

being untrackable is made to stop other hunters and druids.
i dont know if it has any NPC value to it.

other then that i use it alot when i am AFK and shadowmeld or when im questing and that damn hunters mark hits me and i need to run and hide.

Comentado por Thottbot

This move is usefull when you are mounted, making you harder to gank

Comentado por Thottbot

so if you have aspect of the beast, you cant have cheetah, or monkey, or hawk during right? just one at a time? or is this an acception?

Comentado por Thottbot

this is good for a night elf hunter for wsg they can turn this on shdow meld near somebushes or w/e then aimed shot/conncusion shot the flag carrier they see running by or just anyone without shaow meld this ability is pretty sucky since most people with see you on thier screen anyway as for pve no use

Comentado por Thottbot

i guess this attack is pretty good. there was an orc hunter after me and he had me on humanoid track. so i just used this and he couldn't find me. so i guess its useful during BG's and stuff like that

Comentado por Thottbot

This has saved me when i was a lowbie running from high level hunters AND druids. they just run right by. I do not know if hunter can still see you if you have hunter's mark on you but imo i think even with the mark on you, you should be UNtrackable in any way just like it says and it would make the ablilty all the more useful because there arent many uses for it now except for a hunter flag carrier hiding from other hunters/druids.

and NO this has NO effect on aggro range u guys are just jumping to colclusions and using too much imagination. Just cuz ur untrackable doesnt mean your more stealthy and therefore aggro less. It has NOthing to do with aggro and as far as i know has no use for PVE.

Comentado por Thottbot

For NE hunters this abiltiy is awesome. I was competeing with an Orc Hunter in Hillsbrad for a grinding spot, after I killed him the first time, I shadowmelded and aspect of the beast, dismissed the pet and waited for him to come back. Did this 4 other times and he never knew I was there until I popped out called the pet and had Mark on him before he knew what to do.

Comentado por Thottbot

WoW lol this has to be the worst ability ever

Comentado por Thottbot

Anyone used Track Hidden in PvP vs this? Does Track Hidden overcome it?

Comentado por Thottbot

nice for wsg when your the fc and dont wanna be on their minimap

Comentado por Thottbot

People who aren't using this skill either don't pvp much of just haven't it tried out. I have never been located by the opposition while using the shadowmeld/beast combination. I am not a guru but I have 5000+ pvp kills with my lvl 49 hunter and I love this new skill. Mondrius/Hunter on the Cenarius Server

Comentado por Thottbot

This is actually very cool in PvP if you are a Nightelf and have a cat pet with Prowl.

Basically, go into Aspect of the Beast and use Shadowmeld. Then have your cat go into Prowl.
Pretty cool to be untrackable in PvP. Just recast Apect of the Hawk after springing your ambush.

There was a good macro made by Brawntree on worldofwar.net that allows you to throw all of this onto one button. Hit the macro once for instant Aspect of the Beast, Shadowmeld and Prowl. Then hit the same macro again, for instant Aspect of the Hawk. Very sweet indeed.

Macro Code:
#show shadowmeld
#showtooltip shadowmeld
/cast Aspect of the Beast
/stopcasting
/cast Shadowmeld
/cast Prowl
/cast Aspect of the Hawk

Comentado por Thottbot

Kind of ironic that they call the ability that makes you untrackable 'aspect of the beast' given that beasts are the first thing you get a tracking ability for, i.e. the easiest things to track.

Comentado por Thottbot

As a hunter, when our flag is taken, I do a couple of things:

1. Go to the BG list and find out the class of the opposing flag carrier.

2. Put up the tracking I need to find the flag carrier. (I.E. track humanoids for most, track beasts for Druids or shamans.)

3. When I find the red blip on the minimap corresponding to the name of their flag carrier, I spam ping the minimap so everyone in that vicinity knows where he/she's at.

If you don't use your tracking to find their flag carrier in a battleground, reroll a mage or something. You've shunned one of your greatest advantages over the other classes.

L2P

Comentado por Thottbot

I Remeber when i hit 40 and got my mount i was so proud i went and rid around everywhere got so carried away i rode into low lvl horde towns past the guards, that annoyed a lvl ? hunter. So he camped me, i was with a lock friend also 40 so he camped us both well im a survival type of guy so i had to sacrifice my friend as soon as he rezzed and the hunter went after him i rezzed too put on aspect of beast and rid to the top of a steep mountain. I watched below as the hunter ran around on his epic mount looking for me. So if it can hlp you avoid being camped i would say it is useful. Dont woory i wasn't a total ass i shortly after used eyes of the beast and flew my bat near the ? to distract him and save my friend witch suprisingly worked too bad ieatgnomes didnt make it he was a good pet =(

Comentado por Thottbot

Does Aspect of the Beast also cover your pet?

Comentado por Allakhazam

It's only effective in pvp combat against other hunters...

The only thing it does, is that it makes you untrackable from other hunters who use track humanoids.

For example: if you an Orc hunter, a night elf hunter can't see you on the minimap.

That's what it does! :p

Comentado por Allakhazam

How..useful :)

Comentado por Allakhazam

i dont know how many ppl on beta reached lv 30 but i was wondering if this spell makes u look like an animal or somehow changes your appearence?

Comentado por Allakhazam

By the way, druids can also track Humanoids, so its good to have on if you have the flag in WSG :)

Comentado por Allakhazam

Might be used in Warsong Gulch I guess if you've got the flag (though you'd probably prefer to have cheetah on) or you know the flag is being defended by a hunter.

Comentado por Allakhazam

that mean you don't show up on the radar at all?

Comentado por kevb70

I use aspect of the beast in Wintergrasp. One hunter can guard a workshop while everyone is fighting. If 1 enemy shows up, you can kill him or safer just stay out of sight and they can't flip the flag. Call in raid chat "Need a couple of people to GY teleport to ES we got inc here" especially if more than 1 enemy shows up. One of the best spots is in the water on the east side of ES, you can move against the wall and still be counted as capping. Otherwise find a shrubbery to /sleep in so it hides your Red nameplate to the enemy. Someone would have to tab target you to see you.

I have tested this in a duel. Both the hunter and pet do not show up on minimap if druid cat is using track humanoids, or if another hunter is tracking humanoids or beasts. Using shadowmeld doesn't make you vulnerable to being found using Track Hidden.

The tooltip is a bit misleading as it says "Makes the hunter untrackable, and gives hunter and pet 10% AP. " It should say "Make the hunter and pet untrackable"

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