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Comentado por Toloran

Just like to point out that this IS stealable by the mage's Spell Steal ability.

Comentado por Carighan

This spell has 2 big problems:
a) It's magic.
b) It has a spellgraphic, a very unique one.

In PvE, this is kickass-awesome. In PvP, be very careful when to use it, and realize in 99% of cases it's more effective to play defensive in PvP even if you're specced/geared for damage. Hence, don't waste Forbearance on this if you know it'll just be dispelled/stolen.

Comentado por Caffi

I just think its wierd how the tooltip say nothing about giving you forbearence, they should update that.

Also, they should update the tooltip on the divine shield and blessing of protection to tell you about the avenging wrath.

Plus i would really love to see the forbearence be removed like archangel said. I am going to have to test that with a warlock friend of mine :-) (Thanks for the tip archangel)

Comentado por Isilien

New in stores! Paladins! Now with wings for twice the protection!

Comentado por camarouge

Does this +30% apply after or before spell damage bonuses?

For example, you have 300 spell damage, and your Judgement of Command hits for a maximum of 504(stunned/incapped). With spell damage, that becomes a maximum of 633. Does AW change your maximum to 783(before spell damage) or 822(after)?

Comentado por 43910

This spell looks really really cool when you are in Furbolg form ( https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=5462 )

Gotta love raiding karazhan in furburger form with wings :)

Comentado por Ireze

I have a question can mages spellsteal this?
-spellsteal pom pyro O_O

Comentado por 124740

Great in arenas,everyones got to hate the Ret pallie in S1 gear killing you in your S2/S3 gear.
I hate how S3 holy pallies kill me with this but still great for evocation against the curator to do lots of damage!

Comentado por 159774

I believe this spell is casted mostly just for look then actual use in combat. It does have a nice feature in combat for protection paladins and retribution paladins and especially helpful for a holy paladin fighting off a ganker or a mob. But, honestly, I seen more paladins cast this in cities and shout random things like 'Redbull gives you wings!' and several more dance with this. I have seen my fair share of paladins dancing naked with wings for the 'cool' look or taking screenshots.

Comentado por 129231

after i geared up my retri pally and gained more survivability i have found myself to pop this more than my bubble....

in bg's i usually the <<resto druid burster>> judge with justice laugh at him as u run faster (+15%) than him in travel form and nuke his ass down

especially useful against healers like disc priest, resto shaman, and resto druid (ofc stunned in caster form)

bubble wont help u down a resto druid... with u will at least make him use his HOLY #$%^ button (nature swiftness)

Comentado por 167698

i looove this..~
too bad it gives forbearance though, imagine a AW without forbearance, that would be awezume :'D

Comentado por 132322

as a mage, I like to steal it and buff myself and use a damage trinket and arcane power so make a nice crit by instant pyro abuot 10k on a player.... but its a very rare chance...

Comentado por 151035

Red bull gives you wiiiiiiiiings! =D

Comentado por 194732

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12666303677&sid=1&pageNo=1#10

GC posted that Avenging Wrath might be buffed up in the next patch (3.1). That it will no longer cause Forbearance. Instead it will be on a shared small cooldown with Divine Shield (etc.).

Comentado por 151035

Paladin red bull

"Red Bull gives you wiiiiings !" =D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwzXxvhk-_g&feature=related

this is even funnier xD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sJdNjN44l8&feature=related

Comentado por Hadrial

I dont know if this has been said yet, but when things got super tough in hyjal and sometimes shiraz I would use

Avenging Wrath + Lay of Hands on the MT, 20-24k Heals really do save the day,

and with Wotlk and druid tanks having up to around 45k hp, this combo will see more use in raids when things go badly.

Comentado por curious22

Does Avenging Wrath stack with a Shaman's Hysteria?

Comentado por Ronark

Since a very nontrivial amount of our DPS is Holy and not based off of weapon damage (SoB/C notwithstanding), and Hysteria only affects physical damage. That means we would only benefit from it for our white swings (and SoB/C by proxy) as well as CS and DS.

The only forms of non-physical DPS a paladin has is Consecration and any Judgement OTHER THAN Martyr/Blood or Command; M/B and Command are treated as Physical attacks, thus why they can be parried and blocked (run Recount or a similar program for a while and you can see this trend).

Comentado por 313449

Except that if you have purify or cleanse in a convenient spot like I do, poison will usually be dispelled so fast that if you blink you'll miss the green wings.

Comentado por 298269

As mentioned by almost everyone, this is able to be dispelled by everyone and their brother. That being said, if you want to use this in pvp and get atleast a global or so off (hopefully) macro it in with hand of salvation or freedom. The latter is not a great idea, but the goal is to get another "trash" buff onto you so that when people spam purge/dispell/spellsteal it takes them another global or so to get your wings off.

something like

/cast Hand of Salvation
/cast Avenging Wrath

should do the trick in bgs, note that in pve applications you may want to use the non macro'd version so as to not waste a salv that may be needed later by you or a group mate.

Comentado por Icehawknel

before anyone else says it

Come Cataclysym and Tauren Paladins

Red bull Gives you WINGS (cast Avenging wrath)

Comentado por kellorion

#showtooltip
/cheer
/cast Avenging Wrath
/say Red Bull gives me Wings!

and in Cata, Tauren switch Red for Ret.

Comentado por 00sugar

Now for DKs!

Comentado por Loof42

In cata, there will be ret bull. Prepare to be spammed by this joke.

Comentado por loik

Now for DKs!

Blizz should make another version of the spell when the DK uses Dark Simulacrum and unleashes Avenging Wrath, like black wings or something, because "holy wings" does not fit with the DK...

Comentado por warfist

I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but each of the three Paladin specs has a talent to reduce Avenging Wrath's cooldown by 60 seconds.

When I noticed this I thought of the following query:
Wouldn't it make more sense to give Avenging Wrath a baseline 2 minute cooldown if all the Paladin specs are meant to have a 2 minute cooldown by the time they learn Avenging Wrath at level 72?

In my opinion, there is no reason to have talents that reduce the cooldown of Avenging Wrath by 60 seconds if Paladin's aren't likely to experience a 3 minute cooldown by the time they learn the spell. It is far more logical to have the baseline cooldown be 2 minutes and Paladin talents ignore Avenging Wrath's cooldown altogether.

Thoughts?

Comentado por 175471

It is far more logical to have the baseline cooldown be 2 minutes and Paladin talents ignore Avenging Wrath's cooldown altogether.

-warfist

While I tend to agree that currently this seems relatively redundant, the first thing to be noted is that the 60 second reduction is taken in 20/30 second increments per point for a maximum of 3/2 talent points. The second important difference is the variation of the talents. Holy (20pt req) > Prot (25pt req) > Ret (15pt req). These also, as indicated, appear at different tiers in their respective talent trees. Avenging wrath is the paladin's berserk and it's use varies under the different conditions, ie Holy paladin burst heal, prot threat gen, and ret burst DPS. It should also be observed that ONLY the ret talent changes the mechanics of Avenging Wrath by activating Hammer of Wrath above the 20% health "execution" point.

From Blizzard's standpoint, they may also have included the program line in order to tweak the mechanics later. Already the talent is effectively strongest for Holy as each point reduces the cooldown by 30 seconds, instead of 20 in the case of ret and prot.

Good observation though, I had not noticed this until reading your comment, so I uprated accordingly =D

Comentado por 632154

/cast Avenging Wrath
/y ITS HAMMER TIME!

Comentado por bullseyez

does this activate GCD(global cool down)?

Comentado por 633245

if i use Avenging Wrath and Inquisition at the same time will these two spells' effects be added toghether? I mean if i receive the extra 20% and 30% extra holy dmg at the same time?

Comentado por 780039

So the 20% increased damage, is that JUST melee? I'm asking because I love spell stealing this from paladins so just wondering if it also increases my spell damage.

PS Will it also work for Evocation?

Comentado por 742164

I am surprised nobody mentioned this earlier, but here it is:
BEWARE: Dispel type: magic. Guess what that means? This spell can be Spellstolen by mages!
I personally as a frost mage love when palas pop this in arenas and give me a 20% damage buff - not to mention the look of a troll mage with a pair of wings =P.
Magez be getting ur wingz!

Comentado por 798829

So, If i cast Avenging Wrath then Inquistion
and a mage casts Spell Steal
which one would get stolen?

Comentado por 837515

oh how i love to speed up kill quests by using avenging wrath and several hammers of wrath to one-hit every enemy i see at my level. ain't life grand?

Comentado por 620131

No longer a Magic effect in MoP. It will no longer be dispelled and spellstolen.

Comentado por Allakhazam

does anyone know what the cooldown is on this spell?

Comentado por Allakhazam

the reason my it causes forebearance because with out it you'll see pallys nuking people with divine shield up with is overpowered in pvp

Comentado por Allakhazam

I just got this spell, and each time it triggers forebearance and so you cant use Divine Shield for 1 min after use.

does anyone know why?

Comentado por Allakhazam

That was exactly what they were saying. Paladins are not suppose to dps, they are ment for tanking/healing hybrid.. you are NOT a Warrior, so stop trying.

well, this is absolutely false

look at the wws of my guild raiding bt yesterday, me doing dps as ret
http://wowwebstats.com/wpkmejn2qbxwm

avenging wrath triggers forebearance because of pvp imo, so that you can't use divine shield and aw at the same time. this would be kind of op

Edited, Dec 6th 2007 8:00am by Carpathis

Comentado por Thottbot

Watch this ability in action

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6466291676668091025&q;=Avenging+Wrath

Comentado por Thottbot

priest, warlocks and defspecced warriors basically anything exept rogues...and other paladins

Comentado por Thottbot

if it's magic, it can be purged / stolen, just like Blessing of Protection.

Comentado por Thottbot

This spell is a "filler" spell.

Due to the nature of Divine Shield and Blessing of Protection, both of which have a long cooldown(4 and 3 minutes, respectively, if improved), this spell was made to use the time in-between forbearence.

Sure, it's not amazing in PvP due to the fact that it can be purged or stolen, however it would even be useful in single combat if your shields were down. You can still activate it for a single HoJ burst.

I don't see why anyone would complain. This offers a significant DPS upgrade in PvE, and a very deadly burst or two in between shields in PvP.

Cheers

Comentado por Thottbot

This would be AMAZING for a pally tank... since you're probably not going to be using Divine Shield or Blessing of Protection more than you're going to be needing a ton of extra aggro, this will probably be popped every 3 minutes :-D

Comentado por Thottbot

This is more of a PvE tool. I've been using it, and I NEVER, ever, fire it in PvP. In Group PvP you'll be lucky to get more then 5 seconds out of it before you either die or get it dispelled, due to the huge wings graphic. In PvE, however, I rarely use my bubble, and even then, anyone experienced can predict when they might need it and when they won't. Its very easy to not fire AW during hard stuff. My personal favorite thing to do is cast Divine Favor, AW, then Holy Shock. A Forced +30%dmg crit every3mins that does about 1500dmg for me, and I'm a fresh 70 with crap gear.

To the Paladins unhappy with this spell, shove it. Paladins have been asking for controlled damage at the cost of survivability since release, THIS IS IT, be thankfull like me. I put it to great use in PvE.

Comentado por Thottbot

i think that spells/abilities that give a negative effect (forebearence, PW:S) should also have the negative effect removed when getting dispelled/stolen

Comentado por Thottbot

If your a holy paladin and don't want to use your Divine Illumination or Divine Favor to heal and just want to use burst damage, here is a good macro to use.

/cast Divine Illumination
/stopcasting
/cast Divine Favor
/stopcasting
/cast Avenging Wrath
/stopcasting
/cast Holy Shock

Since Divine Illumination, Divine Favor, and Avenging Wrath all don't have any global cooldown time all four will cast instantly. And you will still have plenty of time left with Divine Illumination and Avenging Wrath to play around with.

Comentado por Thottbot

Actually, this spell is incredibly useful for tanking paladins for a number of reasons. First, a tanking paladin will NEVER use Divine Shield or Blessing of Protection on themselves as they both drop immediate aggro, so Forebearance is a non-issue. Second, paladins hold aggro by doing holy damage to an enemy while using Righteous Fury. With this ability, you can cause 30% MORE holy damage (and standard melee damage) and thus generate even more aggro. Great tanking skill; somewhat worthless for PvP and soloing.

Comentado por Thottbot

I havent had a lot of problems with mages stealing it yet...only happened a couple of times. Overall, it's great to use in between shields...

I pull off 1900 Holy shocks, 1100 JoRs with it on...and I jus turned 70 not too long ago.

Cant wait to see what I can do when I get some decent raid gear.

Comentado por Thottbot

http://epicpyro.ytmnd.com/

This is a gif picture of a mage pom+pyro'ing a pally for about 15k dmg.
But the only thing I'm sceptical to is that the mage have a forbearance on himself.
So how did he get that? from spellstealing or from the paladin, if he actually buffed him with the pally buff?

Comentado por Thottbot

Hey guys
this spell fukin owns
i love it
BIG holy pally crits
fukin awesome

Comentado por Thottbot

Been 2 shotted by a paladin once. When i see those wings comin at me, i generally run.

Comentado por Thottbot

I've got a hybrid pally 0-28-33 to maximize 2-h damage with Vengence and Imp. 2-h in the Ret tree and Reckoning in the Prot tree.

Forbearance aside, this spell is incredible. (Consider it vs. Shaman's Bloodlust. And every 3 min!)

Using this every 3 min. and Bladefist's Breadth every 2 min., my white dmg is wonderful. (yes, i know, ret pally DPS ain't comparable to other classes... but any higher DPS and you have no heals/plate/bubble/res)

PvP - use for 1-on-1 except vs. Sham / Mage.

Solo - Whip this out every 3 minutes as you eat through mobs. When i pop Av. Wrath & reckoning procs, i three-hit everything that isn't elite. My crit is ~22%, causing vengence to proc to its full effect (stacks 3 times) in as little as one swing on reckoning. (Any combo of your white dmg swings + your SoR/SoC/SoB seal proc critting.) Every crit after that just extends the window of 15 seconds for vengence. I'll typically be able to hold full venegence (3 stacked) for about 15-18 mobs before needing to heal or running out of close enough mobs.

Raid / Dungeon - Once you're sure of where aggro is gonna be, pop this and smack away. Priceless on boss fights that demand a quick end.

Sorry for the long post, but the bottom line is this: If it's useful to you at all, use it a lot. If you're Holy non-Shockadin, don't waste the 8% of base mana that it costs.

Comentado por Thottbot

Locks with felhound can eat it too ;/

Comentado por Thottbot

epicpyro.ytmnd.com

Comentado por Thottbot

does anyone know if this stacks with berserk.. could be a niiiice judgement crit if u stun ^^ which stacks with sanc aura and the other 5% more u get so and crits become much nicer with any dmg% increasing effect so its 10% + 2% + 3% + 30% + 30% (berserk) + 15% (full vengance) get merciless gladiator gear (which u get around atleast 400 spelldmg with.. highest crusader strike ive heard is 6.7k on a rogue and judgement 5.6k ... also use judgement on a warr with berserk stance ^^ xD

Comentado por Thottbot

I don't really care about the spell, I just really like the sheep with wings screenshot! :D

Comentado por Thottbot

When i became lv70 this quickly became my fav spell by far :D i personnally use it in combo with a step attck
1.Ret aura (later explained)
2.Seal of the Righteous (does not have to be imp but can do)
3.Divine Imulation (cuts all waste here after. Holy only if you are not holy skip this step)
4.Avenging Wrath. This now increase all damge you do and if holy costs less mana to avtivate (note this also increaes your Ret damage aswel cos it comes from you but it does not affect peeps in your team Ret output)
5.Concecreation this is affected by your AV

-What is it does overall-

.Using this order every hit you do in melee is increased and your SoR does more damge on melee too
.If you pull 3 or more mobs on you lv70+ it will always result in you taking heavy damage but Ret and Con will do alot more overall (this is usually combated by simply helaign yourself)
.Great for Prot palay cos it causes alot of aggro very quickly
.If you are holy and have holy shock it will cuase alot of damage and can be aplied any time after step 4 (i personally use it with Divine favour cos it crits more with AV on
.WARNING it you are in BG this can kill you very quickly cos you lose your Divine sheild abbility and most opposition in BG are casters and they wont stand about in your Concecreation and they wont melee you losing the Aoe damge all together (this should only be tried in BG if you can see only melee classes and you have healing back up)

Comentado por Thottbot

So do you.. nuff said

Comentado por Thottbot

If we can do it, why not? lol it's not like we can stealth off a battle or fear people away ;)

Comentado por Thottbot

Is it just me or do I think that Avenging Wrath should not have a forbearance effect? I mean come on, every other class at lvl 70 gets a kick ass move that pwns everything around them. And what do we get? 30% dmg increase, with a forbearance. I love this move except for the forbearance effect. Because once you realize that your opponent is still alive after AW and interrupting every other spell and polymorphing you mercilessly..you can't bubble, thus you are dead. I know I can't speak for everyone..but this move has NEVER ONCE helped me after I use it because I am a sittign duck. Basically, it would be a much better lvl 70 move if the forbearance effect did not exist. But of course, it's great for PVE prot/ret pallys :)

Comentado por Thottbot

Okay... for all of you COMPLAINING about this spell, you obviously don't know the use of this spell...

It adds 30% more damage. That is INSANE. That means that if you were to say, oh, be doing 900 damage a swing on your melee stat sower that also shows your ap and crit chance ( a decent amount at 70) that it would shoot up to 1170 damage. If your like me, and your says 1000 damage, you will be doing an extra 300 daamge with 1000 and 270 with 900.

Hell, is that not good enough for you?

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/9711/picturevx7.png

here is a picture of me hearthing at 8 PM doing this in like 5 minutes.

Sorry I couldn't get my 2126 SoC crit and 1850 white damage crit I got yesterday against an elite mob...
will try to get more pics in the future :)

White Crit
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1252/cooloq8.png
(The yellow one is crusader strike)

Comentado por Thottbot

I have a Macro from my ret pally.. with a bloodlust trinket :P

/cast Bloodlust Brooch
/cast avenging wrath

i crit 3k white damage 3k with proque with seal of command
4k crit with crusader strike.. with my stormherald ofc xD

first u need to use repentance on the target
then crusader judge the target
use seal of command
stun the target use the macro + crusader strike
= target dead

greatest damage ever 3k+3k+4k = 10k + target is a druid bear form :D
s3 set pally

Comentado por Thottbot

Paladins are the greatest class on the game hands down.

Comentado por Thottbot

doesn't stack mate :P

Comentado por Thottbot

Stop being jealous, we all know Belf pallys are better ^^

Comentado por Thottbot

Im interested to find out how Seal of the Crusaders 40% damage boost to Crusader strike (coming in path 2.42) will stack with this moves basic 30% boost.

A 1 Minute Crusader Strike Mega-Nuke is probably to much to hope for.

Comentado por Thottbot

which race is the best for a pally?

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