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Comentado por 8903

Great spell, with the talent you add 15% armor, great for MT.

Comentado por loozerr

Not usable in arena.

Comentado por 48977

This skill may appear to bad. All your mana to restore all of a players hp and 500 mana back to you. That barely leaves you with anything. But if you think outside the box, this skill is extremely good. Paladins should have a blast with this skill. If in a group and it's the paladins job to heal everyone this skill will come in handy in tight situations.

Say you use up all your mana healing the group or yourself. If i have to be the healer in the group i usually use Flash of Light as soon as damage is given to my party. This is very mana efficient and lets me perserve my Lay on Hands as long as possible. One that my mana is almost nothing i use Gift of the Naaru on the person with lowest health. But at if at any point one of my group friends or I am about to die, I can cast Lay On Hands, which will take up all the mana I have left (almost nothing at this point, maybe less than 100 mana), heal my friend/me to full hp, and give me 500 mana back.

I only use this skill in emergancies though, because of it's 1 hour cooldown.

Comentado por 78731

This is a very usefull spell to have. Even if you only have 1 Mana left, you can cast Lay on Hands to heal you and save that 10% durability since it doesnt take any mana to cast.
But dont become too reliant on it cause if you dont watch it, you may be in the cooldown time when times are dire.

Comentado por Devin

Let's say everyone but you has died in a boss fight. You pop Divine Shield and try to burst damage as much as possible. After shield expires and you take one or two hits, pop Lay on Hands. With the 900 mana it returns try to burst a little more...

It seems in this kind of situations a paladin tank has almost 20 seconds to finish the job on his/her own. It's totally awesome imo.

Comentado por cheesepizza

can other paladins gain mana from this heal? if so that'd be pretty cool

Comentado por 125904

um, all of YOUR max hp.

lets say a person with 3000 HP walks by and you have 1500 max hps, if they were at low health, youd restore 50%

Comentado por 162006

The 1hr cooldown was excessive. It's still not usable in arenas, but if it were, it'd be OP.

Edit: LOL DOWNRANK

Comentado por 152011

Does this spell require at least 1 mana to be used, or can you use it with a completely dry (0/x) mana pool?

Comentado por 142038

This is hardly overpowered.

Chances are, that WotLK tanks have vastly more health than holy paladins (just as in the BC). This is an "oh sheit" button, which, talented, could make a difference.

I love the way that holy paladins are heading. Especially with druids having Nourish and Flourish, we need to have something unique that can define a paladin as a healer, since we won't be FoL'ing anymore.

Comentado por 178943

I don't think it is gonna stay mana-free. For something this powerful, there has to be a cost of some sort, so it might not just be mana, they might have it require a reagent too.

Comentado por 112924

Sheath of light? Anyone? If this crit in an "Amagaad that stupid tank pulled the whole room" or a "omg the tank is at 10% and we need one heal to down the boss but the healer is OOM" situation this along with a Crit and sheath of light can Shine.

Comentado por freethinker

as per patch 3.0.2, lay on hands don't require 100% mana to cast?

Comentado por 178827

It would not be OK if it was useable in arenas. This practically brings a team member to full health usually, or anyway close to full health, and also restores some mana for him/her to use enough abilities to cause some damage. This would mean that a particularly doomed member (that is just about to be killed) is returned to almost 100% capacity instantly, without even costing mana for the paladin. Not at all arena-style. Especially if there are more pallies in a team. Also, if the opposing team lacks a Disc Priest (say in 2vs2), they might be forced to have to "kill" the paladin three times to outright kill him (first low health: Divine Shield + Holy Light until full health; second low health: Lay on Hands, bonus mana).

Comentado por 123022

It seems that Blizzard has strated favorising Paladins in WotLK...Just think of it..They now own everyone(retadins i mean(well ofc not everyone BUT they are op in general)), they have divine shield so they are invincible for 14 secs and they have buffed LoH to not take mana but GIVE mana instead...and for me as a shaman i feel kind of abandoned,sure we hve some very nice spells like Bloodlust/Heroism and earth/fire elementals but Bloodlust doesnt give us full health and mana when we need it and 30% speed doesnt matter when you got 10% and they LoH and own you...And the elementals are just stationary so if you want them to be usefull in more than 1 encounter you have to pull them there adn if you put out fire elemental in AV you are the NO. 1 target of everyone...

so PLEASE! Stop buffing paladins!

Comentado por 198510

Will this be useable in the arena?

Comentado por Skullhawk13

It has not cost in mana at all when ever i use it now, Handy for when you are about to die and can't bubble in time, or with the nerf to bubbles still handy.

Comentado por spartan2600

so #$%^ing cheap for pvp

Comentado por Hesten

T3 4-Set bonus, Glyph of Lay on Hands, Sheath of Light and Improved LoH would make this 4 minutes cooldown, which has a chance to crit and gives you 50% Armor and a ^&*!load of mana.

Why did I get downrated?

Comentado por URanu5

unless giving special circumstances.. i can only use LoH as a Holy Paladin as a mana battery, healing the tank with thing i would only use if he was down to below 10% hp.. i needed a instant heal on him cuz the boss is jus raping him thru every hole on his body (bear tanks have big holes i bet >_<) so i need him at least close to full hp quickly... tho really my HL can do just a bout the same healing when criting... just with a bit more time :/ so over all.. as a holy paly i dont see MANY aplications for it other than as a mana battery... but its a goo just incase button if someone flucks my self or the tank up...sry dps.. ur not worth my LoH! :P

BTW... the beacon of light then LoH combo wont work to well unless used on the offtank who has basically the same amount of hp missing as the mtank, cant heal who is already healed and if u heal a dps most likely they do not have as much hp as the tank..so ull over heal the dps person while underhealing the tank :/

Comentado por SavageFatBob

Due to the changes to this spell, glyphs, etc. my guildmate posted the following, I thought this community might find it interesting:

Lay on Hands
20 min CD

Glyph of Lay on Hands
-5 min

Improved Lay on Hands
-4 min

Redemption Armor (T3)
4 pieces: -12 min

edit: second link for redemption armor: http://www.wowhead.com/?itemset=528

GG Spamming LoH in Arenas.

Comentado por firebolt145

PLEASE do NOT use this in duels. It's just...uncool. Bubbles during duels are already a bit iffy, and LoH is just worse.

Comentado por 382193

As a paladin i think this spell is one of the reasons we can't evolve in pvp. It makes us even stonger at BGs, it usually generates qq-s all around the forum about pallys three lives, and angering casual players, making them think pallys are unbeatable -and we know blizzard is more than eager to nerf based on Bg player forum qq-s.
However it can't save us in arenas, and it keeps us from getting real tools in pvp. I think skilled holys would prefer more interesting new heals which are fun to master instead of a long CD no brainer oh crap button, prot palas could use some similar CDs like other tanking classes, and retris would welcome some offensive tools rather then a "third life" on a long CD.
Just my two cents though.

Comentado por 359502

this is why we the other 80% of the people say that the pally is overpowerd the solution:simple roll a pally

Comentado por flopfaint

3.3.0 New Build

Lay on Hands can no longer be cast on yourself.

Comentado por 316741

Has anyone else noticed a short (~10 second) period after forbearance wears off that you still can't cast Lay on Hands?

Comentado por 367551

I just noticed, we cant use Lay On Hands anymore since the 3.3 patch? or am i doing something wrong?

Thanks

Comentado por 340720

I actually find i gain more around 9-10k mana when i use it, with the glyph.

Comentado por 360470

This spell is not "Instant" as the description implies - rather a 3-4 second cast like exorcism now is. Therefore you are unable to use it in battlegrounds where you have any damage being taken in a 3-6 second window.

That Blizz does not bother to recognize this fact is just another example of the hatred and loathing they have for melee toons and general lack of any concern of abilities actually doing what the description advertises.

Comentado por goomba

They definitely upped the amount healed. I was playing around popping all my cooldowns, and with 2 piece t-10 I healed myself for over 136k with LoH.

Comentado por BeerFoam

That's Blizzard. They make us paladins suck and weigh it up by giving us an extra life.

Comentado por 137356

As of patch 4.0.6 (Feb 8th, 2011) "Lay on Hands" now causes "Forbearance" on their target no matter whom it is.

Learned this the hard way during a raid, threw a LoH on the off-tank (I was ret pally), off-healer was pally heals, and couldn't save the off-tank 45 secs later due to Forbearance.

Comentado por Kanegasi

According to 4.0.6 patch notes, Lay on Hands is not affected by Beacon of Light. Does that mean when I use it on a "non-Beaconed" party/raid member, the "Beaconed" party/raid member won't receive a percentage of the heal? If so, that sucks. I can count plenty of times where I trusted the super huge off-heal Beacon gave me when I used Lay on Hands on someone else.

Comentado por shadowaninja

Here's a useful macro I suggest people create for Lay on Hands.

#showtooltip Lay on Hands
/stopcasting
/cast Lay on Hands

There's nothing worse than having your "oh @#$% button" fail just because you were casting something, trust me.

Comentado por 970230

this is incorrect because lay on hands doesn't always heal you health to full, i was wearing tank gear on my prot pally and my health dropped to 10000/240000 and it only put me up to about 215000, so "Heals a friendly target for an amount equal to your maximum health" is not accurate.

Comentado por Eralson

Why does it have a 40-yard range?

Comentado por arbhatt

The new PvP Rules Enabled (HARDCODED) essentially makes the Paladin signature move Impor as Mãos a piece of crap in PvP. You no longer get full health back. I've had many times when I got less than 50% back because of some other presumed healing debuff. But at least it's a short cooldown. Oh wait, it's 10 minutes. Thanks, Blizzard.

Comentado por valkemen

Patch 5.4
Lay on Hands + Unbreakable Spirit = 5 min. CD
Lay on Hands + Unbreakable Spirit + Glyph of Divinity = 6 min. CD + 10% max mana
Lay on Hands = 10 min CD
Lay on Hands + Glyph of Divinity = 12 min. CD

Comentado por Aryan

Blizzard finally admits what we've all assumed. Your LoH might have gone on CD but your dead tank never got it due to server shenanigans that are being changed/fixed in WoD.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/13087818929?page=6#114

I don't want to get too deep into the under-the-hood workings of WoW servers, but here's a super short version. Any action that one unit takes on another different unit used to be processed in batches every 400ms. Some very attentive people may have noticed that healing yourself would give you the health instantly (minus client/server latency), whereas healing another unit would incur a delay of between 0ms and 400ms (again, on top of client/server latency). Same with damaging, applying auras, interrupting, knocking back, etc.

That delay can feel bad just due to the somewhat laggy responsiveness feeling, but also because the state of things can change during that time. For example: Holly the Holy Priest is healing Punky the Brewmaster. Punky spikes low, and Holly hits Guardian Spirit in a panic. The server verifies that Holly is able to cast it, and that Punky is alive (great!). The cast goes off, Guardian Spirit goes on cooldown, and a request is placed for the Guardian Spirit aura (that prevents dying) to be placed on Punky. That request will be filled next time the 400ms timer loops, which happens to be 320ms from now. 250ms later, the boss lands another hit on on Punky. Punky dies. Sadface. Another 70ms goes by, and the Guardian Spirit aura request pops up, and goes "Hey guys, I'm here!... Aww... damn, I missed the party. Sadface."

We no longer batch them up like that. We just do it as fast as we can, which usually amounts to between 1ms and 10ms later. It took a considerable amount of work to get it working that way, but we're very pleased with the results so far; the game feels noticeably more responsive.

I can't guarantee that you'll never ever again run into cases where Guardian Spirit went on cooldown and the tank still died... but it'll be literally 40x rarer than before, and the whole game will feel more responsive too.

Comentado por Kanariya

This spell originally had a 60 minute cooldown and drained all of your mana upon use. Fortunately, it's a lot better now.

Comentado por Guille18ld

Anyone knows about the phantasy of this spell? I am curious about why they decided to put that name to a masive healing ability

Comentado por Moosplauze

Can this crit or not?

Comentado por jodmos

Was able to use it on a character with Forebearance (Obviously had no effect) and went on cooldown.

Didn't it just not work before?

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Impor as Mãos

Impor as Mãos

Talento

Alcance de 40m

Instantâneo	10 min de recarga

Concede cura a um alvo aliado equivalente a 100% do seu máximo de pontos de vida.

Não é possível usar em alvos com Abstinência. Causa Abstinência por 30 sec.

Detalhes do Feitiço

Duração

n/d

Escola

Sagrado

Mecânica

n/d

Tipo de dissipação

n/d

Categoria GCD

n/d

Custo

Nenhum

Alcance

40 metros (Long)

Tempo de lançamento

Instantâneo

Recarga

10 minutos

GCD

0 segundos

Efeito nº1

Heal to Full
Multiplicador de JvJ: 0.75

Efeito nº2

Heal for % of Total Health
Valor:100
Multiplicador de JvJ: 0.75

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Não pode ser usado quando Transformado
[Do Not Sheath]
[No AutoCast (AI)]
Não pode ser alvo de Ataque Crítico
[Vehicle Immunity Category]
[Ignore Healing Modifiers]
[Reset cooldown upon ending an encounter]
[Ignore PvP Power]
[Allow Class Ability Procs]
[Always Allow Negative Healing Percent Modifiers]

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