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Comentado por darkarsenic

Awesome rogue skill that can be used both offensively or defensively. You can vanish and run or regen energy or you can vanish and hit another opener (such as Cheap shot for some combo points and a quick stun). A skilled rogue should vanish and hit the opener in between DoT ticks (or you can put vanish on your main bar and a skill such as Cheap Shot under it on the stealth bar). Make sure if your going to run away is to not vanish on top of the thing your attacking or it'll see through your stealth.

Comentado por 6984

There are so many uses to this, and every rogue should learn how to use this well.
Useful in WSG when being Flag Carrier and under pressure - note that you drop the flag once vanished however, and you have to pick it up again fast. Confuses the enemy, giving you just a few more seconds of life, the difference between winning and losing!

Comentado por 7043

Vanish + Sprint + Evasion + 1337 Ninja Skills = Soloing many bosses for loot in lower dungeons.

Comentado por Burner

Just thought I'd mention that in addition to breaking movement imparing effects, vanish also:
- Removes Hunter's Mark.
- Is the only way to stop a pet from attacking you (even if stealthed) that's been ordered by its master to attack, unless you get out of range of course.
- Can be used to avoid both physical or magical damage if timed properly.
- Resets aggro for PvE encounters.
Vanish has also had a long history of being considered buggy/broken, which is somewhat debatable. In the past, there have been bugs where rogues would vanish and a person autoattacking would hit them right back out of stealth or a spell would still hit when it should have been resisted. However, it appears that these bugs have been fixed in previous patches.

Comentado por Mikezila

Vanish temporarily makes your Stealth strength astronomical, so even if you're up against a 60 that wants your blood, Vanish+Sprint can let you get away unseen in most cases.

Just make sure to get far enough away so that when you lose the Vanish buff they don't see you.

Comentado por mikejr

This is a Rogues "Get Out of Jail Free" card, and can be used in a manner similar to the Hunter's Feign Death.

Best saved as an emergency out, it' also useful for thinning the crowd.

For instance, a quest Boss with two adds:
Sap one of the adds, engage the others. You should be able to kill one and as soon as the sap wears off, vanish, bandage, and repeat thereby taking three enemies solo.

Comentado por Mikezila

This also boosts your Stealth for a short period of time, letting you sneak past guards and players that would otherwise see you.

Comentado por 24962

This is a very helpful skill but you may want to watch out, it won't remove Damage over Time's DOTS, Poisons, etc. So if anything breaks you out of stealth normally, then it will break you out of vanish. Although Vanish does destroy Hunters Mark.

BY THE WAY, THIS SKILL IS BROKEN. LOOK AT MY SCREENSHOT.

Comentado por 24962

Comentado por HighFive

Taken from Some German WoW site.
I am not German; I used Google's German-to-English Translator. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Stealth detection only improves your ability to see rogues that are within the 270° in front of you. It has no effect of the 90° "blind zone" behind you. You will only see stealthed characters behind you if they come within 2 yards, but they can use their melee abilities from as far as 5 yards.

Experiments show that when - = 0 you will detect enemies as close as ~6.5 yards range,

when - = 10 - ~10 yards

and when - = 20 - ~13 yards.

This range is not affected by the stealthed target moving or staying still.

Comentado por 68773

Man this move is so broken. hat really pisses me off about it is that it removes hunter's mark. It probably removes flare too.

Comentado por Shaan

After 3 years of "this is working as intended", "vanish is fine, l2p" from devs...

2.2 patch notes, hidden in the "bug fixes", all down below the notes :

Pets will no longer chase players that Vanish.

Yay ! o/

Comentado por 36395

Preperation is a great companion-ability to Vanish, especially in PvP. Consider this scenario:

You are about to lose to a mage...
1. Pop Vanish
2. Oops! Mage AoEs you
3. Pop Preperation
4. Pop Vanish
5. Run like hell
6. Laugh as the mage runs around confused.

Has happened to me more then once, saved my skin and my me feel like a cheating bastard too =D

Comentado por 10238

afaik vanish is still broken, and doesn't work as its supposed to work. i saw rogues on bg's being taken out of vanish on the very first second of vanish - millions of times. and my rogue friend says - pets still remove him from vanish.

Comentado por 55322

Here is a question... what happens when you use vanish if you do not learn stealth??

Note.. the ability doesn't say "Requires Stealth"

Comentado por 11336

Yup, the move is still busted.
-Dueled a mage and my vanish negated polymorph, but I didn't go into stealth
-Still getting auto attacked out of it and I have even auto attacked other rogues out of their vanish spells.

Comentado por Anarchy

Had a weird encounter the other day (on level 36 rogue), attacked an alliance flight guard with my thrown and the enraged gryphons charged towards me and before they hit me I vanished and both their attacks hit me for 1440 each so that is 2900 or so damage and I only have 1500 health so I should have died but the damage didn't go through, is this a normal occurance?

Comentado por daurenr

Gives 270 stealth level for 10 seconds as Vanish
Edit: Soz, 10 seconds not 3

Comentado por 164286

"Improved stealth mode" gives you +170 stealth rating, equivalent to 34 extra character levels. A vanished level 22 rogue, barring any other stealth modifiers, is effectively as stealthy as a level 56 rogue. Therefore, it's very good for escaping an angry town guard outside melee range or a player in a battleground. It probably won't get you away from a level 70 unless you use it before they spot you.

Comentado por veno3

No longer requires a reagent in WotLK, according to beta patch notes.

Comentado por 225109

i know it by experience but want to clarify...
vanish is still broken, right?

Comentado por Nocturnal

You are right! There is no need of reagent

Comentado por 281119

Are you supposed to "dispell" faeric fire with vanish? I've never owned a rogue, so I don't anything about them.

Comentado por Norfax

Even though everyone probably knows this by now, it's worthy to note that when vanish does "bug", it usually bugs the attack that broke vanish aswell. As an example: Rogue A kidney shots rogue B. At the same time rogue B vanishes, bugging vanish, but also bugging rogue A's kidney shot. This can sometimes be benificial, and if the attack "vanished" is a projectile type (anything that flies through the air, frostbolt, death coil... anything of that sort), the 'projectile' will be avoided without breaking vanish, often resulting in much cheer and applause from any spectating crowd.
This is sometimes refered to as a Neilyo, as this particular rogue likes to put 10-20 scenes of him vanishing attacks as an intro to every single on of his movies.

Comentado por 1771

The effect (improved stealth) fades from you if you take fall damage.

Comentado por 225109

To Yata:
uhh...you obvioualy don't know what part of 'Vanish-being-bugged-or-broken' i'm or scub is talking about

Vanish being broken is a VERY old-time bug since when i last played WoW (which is right before BC came out and even then Vanish being bugged was a problem for some time)

And what IS a Vanish bug? open your eyes and read clearly
Vanish breaks from auto-attack

and i'm not talking about just pvp, vanish bug was first reported in pve combat and what i said on my above post (which is now purged) that 'I know it by experience' , i meant pve combat while i was soloing named-mobs in WC

you can even search the comments on those named-mob in wowhead to compare the time-frame when i wrote about the purged-above-comment

and from my experience, if you don't use Vanish carefully when the mob is attacking you, your Vanish will immediately break from mob auto-attacking (so it is essential to either gouge the mob or run away some distance and use Vanish)

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and the part Vanish being bugged, i agree with scub's comment about Vanish always will be broken because i understand the programming behind it...

you see, in the early year of the game when rogues used Vanish they seem to gain brief second of immunity during rogues-raising-both-hands-animation (you may call it spell casting animation or global CD or whatever)
and believe me when i say it, lots and lots of rogues abused that slight programming error
when mage Frost Nova-ed a rogue and gain some distance, naturally they will either cast Fireball or Icebolt. and right before either spell hit the rogue, rogues could use Vanish, nullifying the spell and gain stealth (you could see this in most of every old rogue pvp videos VS mages)

thus Blizz decided to remove the brief immunity of Vanish which started to cause Vanish-not-working-as-intended while Blizz said it otherwise

my main is not a rogue, it's just a toon i play with and haven't touched him for months

funny you mentioned hunters in your post, but just imagine...

hunter sends pet to X rogue...X rogue gains distance...hides behind a building...cast Vanish...and out of nowhere hunter's pet comes at you and breaks you out of stealth....

imagine how would that feel? this was another part of Vanish-being-broken although i believe in some previous patch it was updated 'pets will now drop target when rogues use Vanish' in the very corner without Blizz even mentioning 'Sorry, we were wrong. Vanish was indeed broken'

hey, i'm not complainting about Blizz (as my main is not a rogue and i'm not a rogue-in-heart) and i know Vanish breaking from auto-attack will not change most likely

BUT, 'Yata' before you start renting non-sense about what you don't know...just keep it cooo.......OMG i'm totally renting now :X

anyway i should try to keep it cool now, and you have a nice day :P

edit: LOL you would wanna read comments in Vanish rank2 or 3, someone also mentioned Vanish bug. and it was patch 2.2 where hunter's pet chasing Vanished-rogue was fixed

Comentado por s3curity

I dont know about anyone else but, Every once in a while this ability chokes up and doesn't work.( and no i don't have poison on me or any other dot)

And whatever was chasing me continues to do so.

Comentado por 356708

Dose Vanish trigger Global Cooldown?

Comentado por 300252

Sad to say but even now it is STILL FREAKING BUGGED pets still chase vanished rogues and even casting pets can still target a vanished rouge form a distance of over 20 yards

Comentado por 63375

100% failure rate against capital city guards.

Comentado por 325796

Thing to know about Vanish, quoted from the Rogue Q&A:
Vanish isn’t working properly and breaks when you breathe on the rogue funny..

Comentado por Kobzol

working as intended...

Comentado por LetsEatIn

I find this move useful when DPsing a boss with a good tank quite frankly because you can Ambush/Garrotate then when you regain a bit of energy, vanish, and ambush quite quickly. Beats backstabbing by alot :| Sadly, the cooldown at level 24 is a bit high :P

Comentado por 235552

At final boss in Oculus,
Can you vanish , then re-mount drake to restore drakes health ?

Comentado por 325248

We have a change for Vanish in place for 3.3. You will get to try it out soon (tm). As promised, if it proves a significant buff to rogues, we may have to compensate elsewhere. Just because it hasn't worked as intended doesn't mean it will be balanced when it does.

Source: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20136596247&pageNo=3&sid=1#44

Comentado por 267546

This must not work that way, if that gives you level 74 how do you explain there is not a rank 4 for level 80's ? if that rule was true, vanish would lower or at least not increase their stealth level...which is stupid at most, since most rogues know vanish is broken, they essentially use it as a preventive tool to get basicly invisible when they do not have MoD.

Now there is also the theory that it add 74 level to your current level which mean you would be a level 154 (or 770 stealth value). Here again I think it's wrong. Because let's take rank 1 for example :
If it add 170 (or 34 levels) to your character, than normally as a level 29 you become a level 63 right ? First sounds a bit overpowered even if it lasts 15 seconds... Secondly I can tell you I've tried against levels 45 ish, they see you dozens yards away... I even tried against a hunter level 36, vanish and I close up on him from the side, his pet attacked me while I was Vanished, because he saw me and I was at more than 5-10 yards from the pet, and 10-15 from the hunter, he probably had tracking but whatever...for me I take it I was level 34 and no more, but again this doesn't make sense because the rank 2 is at level 42, so what from 34 to 42 vanish is useless ?

So I really have no clue how this spell work... But this is none of thoses 2 ways. And this is very sickening when you don't know how the spell is supposed to react, I like to know my exact stealth level, and know exactly how a guy see me...

Comentado por 258282

http://www.spike.com/full-episode/spartan-vs-ninja/31578

The origin of black eggs introduced the rumor that ninjas could disasppear in a cloud of smoke.

So its actually Blind, that performs this feat.

Comentado por 550758

http://www.darklegacycomics.com/34.html

Comentado por 559602

This is good if your group gets wiped in a dungeon. And if you have any reviving items(like Goblin Jumper Cables), you can revive the healer and they can rez your group. I haven't tried this but I assume it works :)

Comentado por Spellbreak

90% failure chance against hunters

Comentado por 360470

Yes, vanish does not work in any pvp situation against pets or slow cast toons. E.g. a warrior with a slow 4 sec slam on a rogue need only start the slam, have the rogue vanish, and the slam will hit the rogue and remove the stealth.

Blizz's BS about not being able to test it, is simply they don't care about melee toons - if this were a lock or mage - they would be all over themselves fixing it.

But melee - FYFP.

Comentado por 620612

if you dont mind wasting a cd try this out. if your in a duel against another rogue and your both stealthed just going around look for your enemy and you see him and he sees you pop this and he cant pop a sap or start an opener and kill you

Comentado por 204878

Still bugged. I've been farming BRD on my 80 rogue, and very often on large pulls Vanishing starts the mobs running back, but some will continue to chase me and pull me straight back out.

Comentado por 468832

Surprised no one's commented on this line yet...

"For the first 3 sec seconds after vanishing, damage and harmful effects received will not break stealth. "

R.I.P failed vanishes

Comentado por Jrubzjeknf

Tested it today and oh my god, vanish actually got fixed. Its reliable! No need to use shield trinkets any more! \o/

Comentado por FlayOnDarkIron

As of 4.0.1 this is bugged. Blizz states it is Working As Intended™ but it is most definitely not. It is supposed to provide an additional 135 stealth value to your base stealth value of 40, but as of 10/28/2010 you are visible plain as day upon activation of Vanish until the 3 second buff of "Improved Stealth" fades.

In my pretty unprofessional testing i would say it currently has about a 50/50 chance of dropping aggro in instances, and quite frequently if you aggro something while soloing an instance (like BRD) and hit vanish to leave combat, you in fact won't leave combat and the mobs will continue to attack you after the imp stealth buff goes away. After vanishing in pvp, you can expect to get deathgripped / ice lanced / flamestriked / hunters marked / death coiled even if you are at max range, while stealthed.. I personally have also been attacked out of stealth by snakes from a hunters snake trap after i had vanished and entered stealth.

Its hard to decribe all the problems with it, all i can say is if you are experiencing issues with vanish and stealth in general, you're not alone.

Comentado por 476166

From a Blue Post:

The purpose of Vanish in Cataclysm is to get back into stealth. If you want to avoid harmful effects, use Cloak of Shadows.

We grew tired, as did many players, of "Vanish never works LOL" so we looped back to the original intent of Vanish being about stealth. That is why the tooltip specifically says that harmful effects won't break Vanish, but does *not* say that the harmful effects won't land. We understand some rogues liked using Vanish to "dodge spells" but the ability was never designed to work that way and never was going to work that way very well. The more we tried to let it be a damage negater, the harder time we had letting it guarantee stealth.

There is a current live bug with pets and guardians being able to still target a vanished rouge. That will be fixed in an upcoming patch. Other than that, we are not aware of any issues that keep the ability from working as advertised. Most concerns seems to be rogues who want it to work a different way.

TL;DR version: They're tired of Vanish being used as a dodge (prolly due to the programming issues / bugs), and instead intend on it being used only to get back into stealth. This means, with the new Vanish, moves can land, and if a DoT is still on you beyond the first 3 seconds of immunity, it'll break Vanish. They plan on fixing pet targeting before Cata.

Comentado por 699804

Usually, this works fine for me, but I've always used it only to enter stealth (I usually pop CoS right before vanishing in PvP). That being said, even 2 weeks ago, I sometimes had mobs chasing me in BRD & LBRS after vanishing (yes, I was farming junk boxes).

Comentado por 445371

This ability, used by rouges, allows them to weasel themselves out of a fight where they're stunlock didn't work as intended, the target survived and they would have lost. Rather than croaking, they buckle and try to worm out of combat.

Summa summaron, don't feel bad if a rouge uses this. It means you won.

Edit: Lol downrate from a rouge supporter lol

Comentado por guatafu

As of 4.3 pets still chase you when you use vanish.

Comentado por dakseg

Want to know what is the Vanish? That's ability which ISN'T READY YET.

Comentado por 762557

Anyone else finding that Vanish sometimes causes mobs to reset health and sometimes doesn't?

Comentado por bubadubadoo

"Also breaks movement impairing effects."
It doesn't appear to remove the daze effect. Extremely annoying when I use to to get away from an enemy, and my distance is limited because it doesn't remove daze like it says it does.

Comentado por Phasha

Here is a fun macro I recently devised after 6.0 launch. It combines 4 abilities, Furtividade, Aturdir, Sumir, and Finta, into one button:

#showtooltip
/cast Vanish; Sap; Stealth
/cast Feint

How to use:

Press the macro:
1) If you are out of combat, not stealthed => Furtividade
2) If you are out of combat, stealthed => Aturdir
3) If you are in combat, not stealthed => Finta

Press alt key + the macro:
1) Cast Sumir

Feel free to leave any comments and feedback on how you like it. =D

======================================================================================

Update for Patch 6.1:

Blizzard has changed how the game determines if you are wearing a stance. Previously when you use the macro out of combat to get into stealth, the game will "get it" that you are under instantly, and not go into the next step, casting Finta. In Patch 6.1, however, Blizzard introduces a lag when applying a stance, thus the macro will cast Finta even if you have just casted Furtividade.

I have spent some time meditating and here is a simple and effective update: replacing condition with . Here is the fabled 4-ability macro that works with Patch 6.1:

6.1 version: Furtividade, Aturdir, Sumir, and Finta

#showtooltip
/cast Vanish; Sap; Stealth
/cast Feint

Effects when pressing the macro:
1) If you are out of combat, not stealthed => Furtividade
2) If you are out of combat, stealthed => Aturdir
3) If you are in combat, not stealthed => Finta

Effect when pressing alt key + the macro:
1) Cast Sumir

Meanwhile, this macro has had a great time with other macros in my menagerie, and has spawned a baby.

Variation: Furtividade, Aturdir, Sumir, and Evasão (refresh with immediately if is not on CD)

#showtooltip
/cast Vanish; Sap; Stealth
/stopmacro
/castsequence reset=9 Evasion,null
/cast Preparation

Effects when pressing the macro:
1) If you are out of combat, not stealthed => Furtividade
2) If you are out of combat, stealthed => Aturdir
3) If you are in combat, not stealthed, on CD => Evasão
4) If you are in combat, not stealthed, not on CD => Evasão then immediately auto-refresh with

Effect when pressing alt key + the macro:
1) Cast Sumir

Here, the condition before Furtividade let you see it icon and CD of Evasão when you are in combat. Also, the "/castsequence ... null" prevents casting Evasão twice in a roll in a panic situation.

Note: Do not combine Finta and Evasão into one macro as it will only cast the first one. Here are two bad examples:

#showtooltip
/cast Vanish; Sap; Stealth
/stopmacro
/cast Feint
/castsequence reset=9 Evasion,null
/cast Preparation

^^^This bad example will only cast Finta if you are in combat and not stealthed.

#showtooltip
/cast Vanish; Sap; Stealth
/stopmacro
/castsequence reset=9 Evasion,null
/cast Preparation
/cast Feint

^^^This bad example will only cast Evasão if you are in combat and not stealthed.

Enjoy and tell me what you think! =D <3

Comentado por thesamon

This abillity is great if you're running from annoying , But lets call them Gankers for short, even if you're 50+ levels below you can still escape their "true vision" by vanishing.

Comentado por Pallipwns

Since 7.0 this seems to randomly just not work, I use it & it go on CD then nothing happens. It DOES NOT break from ANY type of damage or debuff, stun, what ever. The only thing that should be removing it is YOU doing damage FROM stealth. I never had this problem at all during my time playing a rogue in mop and WoD.

Comentado por ginny

At least one of several bugs persists with Sumir in PvP since Warlords of Draenor:

If a player uses Sumir, while targeting an enemy who is only in combat with the rogue or the enemy is in group combat via healing, the target will effectively drop combat (it will not show in enemy nameplate or other combat status), allowing Furtividade to be used and therefore all other Furtividade based openers, e.g. Aturdir.

This can and has been a game-breaking bug in arena matches, particularly devastating since a natural target is healers.

Comentado por Rhacius

I am trying to figure out what is cancelling the vanish buff in BfA. I haven't played rogue since WoD, but I never had this problem on my rogue. Can enemy damage remove the buff now?

Scenario: I vanish and cloak and sprint away, death knight pulls me immediately after I vanish as if he never lost target, vanish buff gone.

I can't figure out what it is. An no I am not asking for a flare tooltip.

Comentado por SleepyCloud

I've been wondering, how should I use this with Manto das Sombras? Let's say I'm on a BG and I got dot'd by a Warlock. Should I pop them at the same time? Is it worth it to make a macro for this?

Comentado por drpimento

when I'm fighting an enemy, make a few damaging hits and use this, the enemy immediately heals to 100%. Is it supposed to do that?

Comentado por xLunacyx

Apparently dots still remove stealth.

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