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Comentado por xXHeavy

Ninguém quer demorar muito com essas missões com a Ordem da Serpente das Nuvens. Então, como tenho alguns alts, resolvi me ater a tentar conseguir os itens de algumas dessas missões diárias, que exigem perícia nas profissões secundárias, com um char com quem ja possuísse um alto nível de skill com essas profissões. Porém, depois de pesquisar um pouco, descobri que essa missão não exige um alto nível de pesca para ser concluída. Segue abaixo algumas observações importantes:

Não é possível pescar os Vairões-doces em mar aberto, é necessário pescar em uma pool.
É possível pesca-lo possuindo qualquer nível de pericia em pescaria, ou seja, tanto no nível 1 quanto no 600.
Qualquer pool em padaria pode conter o peixe. Elas também terão 100% de chances de dropar.
Obviamente, é preciso aceitar a missão antes de sair para pescar. Caso contrário os peixes não aparecerão.

Comentado por Lothnen

Coordenadas 55.32 46.54, voltado para o norte. Praticamente um vairão por lançada de isca.

Comentado por daekolz

Existe um lago em Flor da Manhã, lá se encontram alguns cardumes, um varão a cada fisgada, e estes somem após 5 fisgadas, existem dois próximos no lago, então pesque em ambos e complete rapidamente a missão.

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Comentado por retro

The Sugar Minnow are fished from the streams around the Arboretum.

Close to 100% drop rate, if you aren't catching them, you're in the wrong spot.

Only had 525 Fishing when i first started, no lure, hat, or +30 rod - 10 of 10 casts.

Comentado por lightclaw

As the quest text reads, you can catch these from any fresh or salt water in Pandaria, both from pools and open water. I was able to catch them in multiple zones as well. They are a 100% drop rate item from any successful catch. If you're catching trash items, you will not get minnows. For people with low level fishing, just fish from any pool and you'll be done in no time.

I wasn't able to check in Dread Wastes or Townlong, but Sugar Minnows were not dropping from the sha-touched water at Inkgill Mere in Kun Lai. Makes sense, as it's neither fresh nor salt.

Comentado por 1035251

Well, I never caught any of them in open waters (bad luck maybe?). But in fishing schools I got a 100% rate for these little buggers.

Comentado por BacchusZA

It looks like you need a fishing skill of around 600 (pole, lures, rum, etc) to get a 100% catch rate. I caught all of mine in the Arboretum, in an open stream, & not in a pool.

Comentado por 819618

I suggest fishing these in open water to get the necessary golden carps that you'll need for fish cakes for the other daily, A Feast for Senses. You'll need 10 golden carps to make 5 cakes. As far as I've seen, there are no pools for carps.

Comentado por Sparq300

I must say this is not a bad way to level First Aid in small pieces specially if you are just at 525 in the profession.

Comentado por Dotdotdead

Just a quick shout-out, you don't have to have a required fishing level to catch these, just make sure you fish in a pool at any location throughout The Jade Forest.

:)

Comentado por xdirtyboots

Starting from approximately 0 fishing. It's taking awhile...

Comentado por Jonner

If your fishing is too low to fish from the water, then find pools, they will give you 100% chance of a quest fish, so after 10 cast, your finished with your quest..

Comentado por Black2u

Yea I just trained for fishing so I could complete this quest. Caught 2 right off the back and now, half hour later still getting string, wood and crap and no more Minnows..sigh. So I think you do have to level up your fishing a bit to have a more successful rate at catching them. Sigh...

Comentado por addekallstrom

Going from Friendly-Exalted with Order of the Cloud Serpent while only finding 5 eggs I happened to do this quest quite a few times, and since I've used the add on "FishingBuddy" every time I now have a few dataz to share with you all:

Total casts: 262
Vairões-doces: 130 (49,6%)
Reef Octopus: 47 (17,9%)
Golden Carp: 39 (14,9%)
Giant Mantis Shrimp: 32 (12,2%)
Redbelly Mandarin: 7 (2,7%)
Jade Lungfish 4 (1,5%)
Sealed Crate: 2 (0,8%)
Mimic Octopus 1 (0,4%)
Failed attempt 51 (19,4%)

I do have a few important things to point out:
-It has been said here (quite a few times) that the Vairões-doces has 100% catch rate, and I can confirm it, I honestly don't know why FishingBuddy says otherwise.
-I stood on the same spot the entire time, the first island right below The Arboretum (cords: 61,67; 39,55) .
-I started with 550 fishing (525 + 25 from Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat and Nat Pagle's Extreme Angler FC-5000) which is why I have almost 20% failed attempts.
-I gained a total of 51 in fishing-skill (landing on 576 when I reached exalted) over these weeks of farming, I did not fish once apart from this daily.
-Lastly, I only give you the numbers I have gathered, I do not (try to) comment them more then absolutely necessary since I would probably make a fool out of myself through false statements. This is data with as few comments I felt I needed to make.

Comentado por Maiyai

i just started this quest about 40 minutes ago. i had a level 14 fishing skill.. thats why i came here to find help.. read some of the comments so went and tried it myself. apparently how many sugar minnows you catch is based on your fishing skill or just complete luck and chance until higher fishing levels. its not a 100% chance for lower level fishers. your going to have to have TONS of patience. i started out at level 14 with a +25 fishing skill lure and was catching trash at the stream that runs next to the Arboretum, after reading comments here i moved to a pool instead, at this pool i got level 25 with catching just trash again with same +25 fishing lure i was using before. when i hit 25, i caught a gold carp and a sugar minnow x2 in a row.. at level 27 it stopped again and im now fishing up trash again and i just hit level 45 fishing skill.

Comentado por Raa007

It's also worth noting, you can also catch the uncommon quest fishes for Nat Pagle while doing this quest.

Comentado por aazzgard

I started with a fishing level of 1/75 as I had not bothered to level fishing on my toon. I fished from pools of fish and it was 100% catch rate along with some sealed crates and the actual fish from the pool I was fishing from. So you don't need any skill level at all to catch the fish for this quest so long as you fish from a pool!

Comentado por 1062421

I fished mine up from the Slicky Stream in The Jade Forest fishing from Jade Lungfish Schools (just follow the river and look for the schools). The drop rate was 100% if caught with Jade Lungfish, 0 if you catch junk outside the schools. I also tried catching it in Spinefish Schools at Inkgill Mere in Kun-Lai but fished up nothing. Fishing skill was 330, no lure, no fishing hat.

Comentado por 1067471

When I accepted this quest, I had not yet learned how to fish. After teaching it, it took me 15 skill points until I started to catch the Jade Lungfish.

Comentado por JM1120

Must be broken for me or something. Been casting into pools of Jade Lungfish for almost an hour and haven't seen one Minnow. Even tried dropping and reaccepting the quest. :/

Comentado por 998027

If you have a decent Cooking Skill (Assuming most of you do), this quest couples really well with Um banquete para os sentidos. Almost 100% of non-pool catches will be Golden Carp (Along with a Minnow), with the occasional Mandarin Redbelly or Jade Lungfish.

Sungshin Pata de Ferro will teach you how to make Bolinho de Peixe in Halfhill. 300+ Cooking is required. Makes it easy to do both - since at the moment both Fish Cakes and Golden Carp are expensive in the Auction House (At least on my server - carp are 7g each and fish cakes are like 11g a pop).

Unconfirmed, but it is safe to assume you will need upwards of 525 Fishing Skill (Including rod + bait) to have a 100% catch rate for these fish outside of pools.

Hope this helps.

Comentado por 359572

For low-level fishers, as me, you might have difficult times to fish these. While I didn't get any fish from normal waters, I tried my luck in pools. It's 100% drop rate and you get bonus fishes. You can go a little west to Dawn's Blossom. You will find many pools there.

Comentado por 1025217

As a journeyman fisherman (100) I had little success in catching minows. Went to pools of purity in the valley of four winds (61,27) and found a school of fish. Success rate went up to 90%. Once the school was gone my success rate dropped back under 5%.

Comentado por 963560

i started fishing for that stupid ass fish in the pools when i had 85 fishing skill... I found 3 until now and my fishing skill is now 160! repeat i found 3!... all i can say is. That it has something to do with luck

Comentado por 875326

While on this quest, any time you fish up an actual fish, you will also get a Sugar Minnow. Don't do what I did and go 100+ casts without seeing a single one and filling your bags with junk. If you are on this quest, fish in schools. Every cast is guaranteed to get you two fish- a cooking ingredient and a Sugar Minnow.

Edit: I see a lot of people getting pool and school confused. To clarify, a pool is any fishable water, and a school is a clump of fish with mouseover text telling you what kind it is. The Sugar Minnows are 100% drop rate from schools, but have an abysmal drop rate from pools. You need not have any fishing skill to catch fish from schools, so seriously, fish those.

Comentado por Aglaia

There doesn't seem to be a 100% drop rate anymore.
I tried yesterday fishing without fishing pole (the new feature of 5.2) and with a fishing skill of 600 I had only a drop rate of 50%.
Today with pole and a skill of 710 I had 100% drop rate again.

Perhaps it was (or is still) a bug.

Edit:
Next day I needed 11 tries (fishing without a pole).

Comentado por Nikoras

If your fishing is too low, fishing in a pool will get you one with 100% success even if you can't find any from fishing normally.

Comentado por 821994

Even if your fishing skill is high, 'always' FISH SCHOOLS for the Vairões-doces. Buy your carp (see "A Feast for the Senses") inexpensively on the AH and use or sell the schooled fish you've caught.

This will prove you more intelligent than even a schooled fish /wink

Some have commented that this isn't worth doing because of its low rep. If you leave some carp in your mailbox (btw, these won't smell) and fish the school of your choice (you can sit on the q for a day until you're at your favorite fishing hole); getting 20G and 125+ rep for fishing something you need is worthwhile.

PS - If you don't have Argent Squire/Gruntling mail . . . there's a box in Sri La. It's also not a bad hearthstone location while farming this rep.

Comentado por Shagarath

The jade lungfish schools in the river in forest heart (jade forest) has a 100% drop rate. i fish there everytime, because of the wast number with schools. :)

Comentado por Oogzy

If you are of low fishing skill, such as I was when doing this quest, be sure to fish in pools instead of open water. If you're fishing in open water, it will take a very, very long time (I went from 75 fishing to 210 while doing it that way.) If you fish in pools, however, you will catch them 100% of the time.

Comentado por 1132588

The Minnows are always dropping for me. All you have to do is fish in the schools of fish. I.E. Jade Lungfish School or something. These can be found near the Arboretum's little pool, and right down the road. Maybe that is what all these people mean when they say "Fish in a pool" but that confused me also. You need to fish in a school of fish, that is a guaranteed way to catch the Minnows. When the school is depleted, you need to find another one. Hope this helps!

Comentado por Roguelyrecyst

What was that fable about the goose with the golden egg?
'Cause all im getting is golden carp.

Comentado por cooldad

if you are low lvl fishing go to dip dip on the island and get some fish adaptors and fish the pools got all 10 and mimic quest out of one pool my fishing lvl was 212 good hunting.

Comentado por Okonomiyaki

Started with fishing skill of 578. I needed 10 Golden Carp to make 5 fish cakes (A Feast for the Senses) so I decided to fish in OPEN water & see if I would get any Sugar Minnows in the process. I got all 10 Sugar Minnows before I managed to fish up 10 Golden Carp.

After all was said & done. I fished up:
10 Golden Carp
10 Sugar Minnows
1 Sealed Crate
3 Reef Octopus
4 Giant Mantis Shrimp
1 Mimic Octopus
and 2 points to fishing.

Fast & easy.

Comentado por 1170496

Jade Temple Grounds ponds seems to give a really high droprate, also gives you the golden carps you need for the fish cakes ;)

Comentado por jas19822

After spending over an hour trying to get the sugar minnows for this quest I decided to come here and see if anyone found a good spot. Someone said Mossgreen Lake in Timeless Isle so I decided to give it a try. This lake is a 100% drop rate for the sugar minnows plus another type of fish. I was able to get over 100 sugar minnows in about 10 mins. So much faster than any other places that some people have mentioned.

Comentado por slebla240

I could only catch them in pools of other fish.

Comentado por Takata

Like the poster below me said, I did catch them every time in schools of jade lungfish. Every Cast to. if the school disappears just find another one, my fishing skill was 344 to!

Comentado por Maxmass

This might be strange, but when u fish in regular water (without School fish) don't catch the bait directly, just give it 2 actual seconds then catch it and u will loot the quest item on every catch, I had it this way 2 days in a row, anyone can confirm that also ?

Comentado por Foreman1982

Lengthy and random drop rates, unless you are casting into a school of jade lungfish. It was a 100% drop rate for me when casting into school of jade lungfish.

Comentado por GeezerBahl

Fishing was around 690... I flew to a dock at 62,42 not too far from The Arboretum. Caught them in 10 casts (1 per cast).

Comentado por 5imoneh

I kept only getting golden carps, and was mad thinking I did somethig wrong. I was not!

Go to the Slicky stream and fish in schools there!
Perfect catch!
You get them in no time! :D

Hope this helpes :D

Comentado por Preservation

To clarify what everyone else has already said, (some of you are wrong) you need to fish from a SCHOOL. SCHOOL. NOT POOL. I have level 15 fishing and got all of mine from a school of fish right below the quest in the open water. You don't need high level fishing, and you don't need a pool. I fished from a shrimp school.

Comentado por cndd1

Fished from schools, char lvl 88, Pandaria fishing 39/75 using +13 pole, no lure... not quite 100% catch rate, I think two casts didn't give the quest fish. Did the same quest on an alt fishing near the little bridge close to the quest giver - regular water, not in a pool/school that time - alt was lvl 84, zero Pandaria fishing (forgot to train it) using a +10 pole and a +9 lure. Caught 8 in the first 11 casts, had a brief dry spell (8 casts) and then the last 2 were on cast 20 and 21.

Comentado por jfoobar

On a character who is 153/300 vanilla fishing and 0 on every xpac fishing and using a regular rod, still able to fish up all 10 of these in the stream right near the questgiver (in the Arboretum) in 14 casts. Only two of the casts were in a school, the rest in open water. The only four I didn't catch one on were golden carp but some of the other casts in which I did get the quest fish were also golden carp as well.

In other words, seems like they have buffed this so need to fly around looking for schools, regardless of your fishing skill.

Comentado por blizzard60

Sri-la village on the pier (/way 56, 22). I caught one almost every cast. GL! /bow

Comentado por Lickmycritt

28 MAR 2024

I didn't have Fishing when I picked up this quest. Hearthed, picked up fishing for all expansions except SL & DF. Portaled back to Jade Forest, and at the Windspire Bridge , I began fishing. I went in expecting to have to fish for a long time. False! Less than 7 minutes, and I had all 10. Fishing skill 1-13. No schools of fish, just in open water. I'm happy as a Canadian Goose returning home for the summer.

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Pesque 10 Vairões-doces em água doce ou salgada de Pandária.

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Serpentes das nuvens adoram comer, e uma das coisas de que mais gostam é o vairão-doce.

Esses peixes são encontrados em água doce ou salgada em qualquer lugar de Pandária. Imagino que você esteja com sua vara de pescar aí e saiba usá-la.

Vá e me traga um peixe fresco. Tenho certeza que as feras aqui ficarão gratas.

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