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Comentado por 330394

Yogg-Saron is one of the 2 named Old Gods, the other being C'Thun. It looks like Yogg-Saron will be the final boss of Ulduar.

This quest appears to be a follow-up to this quest: http://ptr.wowhead.com/?quest=13622

Comentado por 195534

Hey I am just thinking out loud here.... ( down rate me if I am wrong. I probably am )

If we chuck the fragments into the boss, he switches to hard mode and we wipe dose that mean "sorry outta luck" and you have to get the shards again? blizz probably would not do that to us but there is a chance we can get ripped off...

Comentado por LeLORD

so whats the item >?

Comentado por blanche

Priest: http://ptr.wowhead.com/?item=22631
Druid: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22632
Elemental shamans kind of got cut. But the current on heal effect, which I forgot about in my last post, is:

Val'anyr Hammer of Ancient Kings - Equip Effect -- Your healing spells have a chance to cause Blessing of Ancient Kings for 15 seconds allowing your heals to shield the target absorbing damage equal to 15% of the amount healed.

I mean, I personally hope they change it but hey - on heal effect is on heal effect to me.

EDIT: The reason I hope this is a placeholder is because the best case scenario I can think of for me, a resto shaman with 2k+ spellpower and 20%+ crit (the minimums) is healing the tank with a 20k healing wave and him getting a 3k damage shield which the boss will immediately see fit to take off within the next 5 seconds. And that is IF the shield gets placed when I get a good crit, because it is an on chance. Of course there are other questions to ask, like whats the proc rate, does it proc off multiple jump spells like circle of healing and chain heal(probably not), and can you get multiple stacks of the shield buff. Just, right now I don't think this is really "grand" enough for a legendary weapon. If you use burning crusade as a starting point for legendary's (since vanilla wow was vanilla wow), we had anti demon weaponry that gave haste on chance, and a bow that made its own arrows.

Comentado por CarsaadiofGensis

Aww, I hoped the quest would at least involve a hard mode, now the only really hard part is to gather the fragments...

*edit* "only if at least one Ulduar Watcher is not assisting you." Well that sounds at least like a semi-hardmode, think Sartharion+1

Edit: Yer your right, its only Sarth+1D kind of mode, my bad :) was getting the Realm First and this quest the wrong way around.

Comentado por 347124

To help you on this for easy mode of Yagg (so far shown i think from the PTR) I think killing all the watchers will give you the easiest mode of Yagg, so having 1 Watch or None up would not be Sartharion+1 but Sartharion+3 (count that there is 4 watchers and you only need 1 up). So be a really hard fight to obtain it.

Unless my english is bad and it usually is, I think you have it backwords.

"only if at least one Ulduar Watcher is not assisting you."

If there is 4 watchers it means you can do the fight with 0-3 Watchers helping you.

So he was correct in saying it would be similiar to Sarth1D. 0 Watchers would be harder then Sarth3D

Comentado por Nieker

if you throw it inside him and he doesnt die, will you lose your shaft?

Comentado por 341808

tanks thusfar have been boned on the legendarys =/ this one will indirectly affect us though =P

Comentado por 304104

Meh. As far as I'm concerned, this should have a label smacked on it that says SHAMAN / PALADIN ONLY.

I know Shamans are able to use staffs, but Atiesh wasn't available to you: however, what Shaman really used a staff with spirit on it anyways?

Warriors, Rogues, Ret Paladins, Hunters, Priests, Druids, Mages, and Warlocks have legendary available for their use. (Yes, Atiesh is no longer available, but the point is that you had one available to you where as Holy Paladins haven't. That's in a whole whopping almost 4 years.

I'm glad that there is a legendary healing weapon available, but there was the Atiesh. The first one available was itemized for Priest and Druid (Locks/Mages for the DPS version of Atiesh). Why can't Paladin/Shaman get something now?

/end rant.

Comentado por 315859

Is that just me...

Or Yoggy's fight does NOT include a Deafening Roar?

Comentado por 69302

To answer your question on what bosses have hard modes:

Flame Leviathan: Leaving 1-4 towers up, each tower giving Leviathan more health, more damage, an adding another thing to worry about on the battle field.

XT002 Deconstructor: Killing his heart before time runs out, will engage his hard mode, making him hit 40% harder, and faster. Aswell as refilling his health to full when the heart is killed. Not only that, but it adds more problems to the "Bombs" that he throws on people like Gravity Bomb will leave void zones, and the Light Bombs will create spark adds.

Iron Council: Easy mode consists of kill Steelbreaker, Molgeim, and finally Steelbreaker. Hard mode of this fight would be changing up who you kill last. When killing one of the council members, the other gain different abilities depending on who is killed in what order. Hardest mode would be leaving Steelbreaker for last.

Freya: Leaving the guardians up while engaging Freya is the way to engage the hard mode on her. Leaving 1-3 of the guardians up will provide freya with different abilities during the encounter.

Thorim: To fight Thorim on hard mode, you must reach him before 3 minutes passes after engaging his trash in the collusium. Hard mode on this encounter involves having his wife "sif" present which is not killable, an will attack the raid with several different abilities.

Hodir: Defeating hodir before he shatters his rare cache is this guys hard mode I believe... I am howver, unclear if he shatters his his cache due to a time limit, or if it's a matter of leaving the NPC's trapped in ice... or a mixture of both. I would wager a guess that it has a lot to due with not freeing the NPC's from being frozen.

General Vezax: This one I'm not sure about, but I believe he does have a hard mode, which involves killing him after defating the Saronite Animus. Again to clarify... this I'm not sure about.

Yogg-Saron: After defeating Hodir, Thorim, Freya, and Mimron... you can "Activate" them to help out with Yogg, not activating them is considered Yogg's hard mode, becuase you will lose out on the several buffs they will provide you, and your raid while fighting Yogg-Saron.

As posting this with only completing 8/14 bosses in Ulduar on 04/24/2009. Having only complete one of the hard modes successfully... all the information posted here is just what I've read up, an learned for myself.

Comentado por alonoe

http://www.worldofraids.com/gallery/files/1/1/8/9/8/valanyr_original.jpg

Comentado por 310550

blizz have revealed the stats of the mace it sertanly deserve legendary status http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/april/valanyrstats.jpg

Comentado por Finel

The two missing items on the QuestLog can be found here;
http://eu.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=45896 (Provided Item)

http://eu.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=45897 (Requiered to Complete the quest)

Simply put, the first item is the item you receive when accepting this quest and you need to throw it into the maw of Yogg-Saron.
Second item.. well, clearly the item you loot from Yogg-Saron and turn the quest in, for Val'anyr itself.

Comentado por Kwahirn

I'd like to know what this "Deafening Roar" ability is that Yogg supposedly casts. I've seen no such ability during any phase of his fight. In fact, Yogg himself only casts two abilities, both in phase 3. Lunatic Gaze, and Empowering Shadows.

Unless he suddenly gains this ability when you do it without a keeper. That would explain why you're suddenly able to do it...

Comentado por 271037

Soloable by 100lvl DK

Comentado por 239052

I don't know about you guys, but I'm doing this quest for the 22g reward.

Comentado por 329233

Although FinnrSlayer is probably right about the exremely low amount of players who actually have Atiesh, the reasons that it is legendary arent just because it came from Naxxramas (the Base of Atiesh was also from C'thun) and because it is no longer available.

There is alot of important lore behind the staff. According to http://www.wowwiki.com/Atiesh,_Greatstaff_of_the_Guardian#Information

"Atiesh, Greatstaff of the Guardian is the staff once held by the Guardians of Tirisfal. Last held by the sorcerer Medivh, it was shattered following the destruction of Dalaran by the demon Archimonde. Anyone who could reassemble the staff could command power absolute; it is no surprise, then, that the alliance between the Argent Dawn and the Scarlet Crusade seeks to prevent this powerful focus of power from falling into the hands of the necromancer-lich, Kel'Thuzad. "

and also http://www.wowwiki.com/Atiesh,_Greatstaff_of_the_Guardian#Trivia

"In Karazhan, the Shade of Aran (the ghost of Medivh's father, Nielas Aran) is one of the optional boss encounters. When he sees Atiesh equipped by a raid member, he shouts out "Where did you get that? Did HE send you?" believing that Medivh gave his staff to the wielder. "

In my opinion, being a part of something as immense as Atiesh, Medivh, and Archimonde is like having your own little peice in the history of World of Warcraft.

(may have to copy and paste wowwiki links the comma after 'Atiesh' screws it up a bit; sorry, this is my first post hehe)

Comentado por 236163

Ancient History is completed by accessing the Archivum, which is unlocked after defeating the Iron Council/Assembly of Iron with either Steelbreaker or Runemaster Molgeim killed last.

By the player's request, the Archivum analyzes the fragment. This is a fully voiced event:

"

Fragment analysis underway.
Object identified: Val'anyr, Hammer of Ancient Kings.
Created by the titans themselves, Val'anyr was given to the first Earthen king, Urel Stoneheart. With the hammer he was to create and give life to the rest of his brethren.
Val'anyr was shattered during the first war between the Earthen and the Iron Dwarves.
The Weapon's remnants were believed lost in the conflict.
Probability of successful repair by ordinary means available in this world is close to nil.
Please hold while theoretical means are analyzed.
Powerful acidic content theoretically found inside the being Yogg-Saron would count for the liquefaction of Saronite. Submersion in this substance might be sufficient to rebind an alloy of titan origin.

"

Comentado por Taji

So just to clarify. Am I correct in saying that you only need to be able to do 3 keeper Yogg to get the mace crafted?

Comentado por Pepperly

I don't know whats better. The mace of the 22g

/discuss? =P

Comentado por 364783

We can see that :P

Comentado por 251912

And for those who are in the process of completing this quest (we just made our first mace last night), this buff (you have to click through to see the buff that spell causes) goes up on Yogg when the mace is properly tossed in, so that's a surefire way to make sure everything is set for the final kill. It needs to be thrown during the actual cast of Deafening Roar, which is about 2.3s long. It appears to happen fairly regularly, but based on our experience, it seems like he will actually stop casting Deafening Roar mid-cast occasionally in order to Lunatic Gaze, presumably due to the timers syncing up (we had at least 1-2 Deafening Roars not go off because of that). Additionally, it does appear that, as the quest says, the player does need to be in, or at the very least near, the mouth, based on the messages our mace winner Shockfleur was getting on an earlier attempt (she was standing in the mouth itself during the successful attempt).

Comentado por andreicmello

I've done this quest and I was a little aprehensive while fightning Yogg, afraid I might screw up the throwing the fragment part.

It's simpler than I thought. The item that you need to throw has a 20 second cooldown, in case some are wondering if you "throw it once and lose it". The item can ONLY be used while Yogg is casting deafening roar, which makes this a lot easier. If you try to use it any other time during the encounter, you will get an error message "No valid targets". So, if the item is used and on a cooldown, your throwing was succesful and all you have to do is kill Yogg.

Also, it is worth mentioning that you do not need to face Yogg to throw the item. You can have your back to him to avoid sanity loss and still throw it.

After Yogg is dead, loot your quest item and turn it in at the room after Iron Council.

Hope this helps the aprehensive players on this quest (I was one of them!)

Comentado por Xindan

This quest can be turned in to either the 10- or 25-man version of the Archivum if necessary.

Comentado por finalie

To begin with, the necessary path you must take to obtain this mace:
Paladin/Shaman/Priests/Druids
1. For the mentioned classes, you run Ulduar 25 man as a pug, or with your guild until you obtain 30 Fragments: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45038.
These drop from Bosses on 25 player difficulty, or Hardmode 25 player difficulty.

2. After you obtain 30 fragments, they then become a USE item, which is then turned into the quest item.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45896

3. Upon gaining your Unbound, you must begin the fight of Yogg'Saron MINUS ONE KEEPER.
I.E. send only 3 of the 4 keepers of Ulduar down to assist you in the Yogg'Saron encounter.
The easiest we found, was Mimiron to exclude.

4. During the encounter you will have to use the mace during his Deafening Roar http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=64189 (Hard to miss, game emotes plus DBM warnings make it easy to throw it on time). You'll only need to throw it once, but some nervous healers do so on every single roar to ensure they threw it on time!

5. Upon his defeat, when looted, your new almost complete mace will be masterlooted to you!
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45897

6. The final step is to take your new item back to the Iron Council room and through to the Console room in the back to complete the quest and receive your completed mace!
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=46017

Congrats and use it well! HM 25 TotGC will need a few of those!

(PS if anyone can post to me how to link only the item name to mask over these wowhead links please do so! It would make this an easier read)

Comentado por angelblack

Good way of making some 40gold, this quest gives quite a lot of money.

You also get a nifty weapon but that's secondary tbh.

Comentado por 493606

Actually there is 3 old gods in game right now. Yogg-saron, C'thun and the third being Ragnaros

Comentado por 627933

Yeah, don't just go freaking insane and yell at other people just because you are wrong. Don't forget, it's JUST a game. No need for stress over something that isn't in real life. Also, why in the world would Blizzard allow only Horde druids to use maces and not Alliance? That would make nobody make a Night Elf druid!
And if you look at Quick Facts, it lists Night Elves, so that's another reason not to argue that Night Elf Druids can't use this awesome legendary mace!
Also, that just means that they start out with that weapon skill automatically, it doesn't mean that they can't train it.

Comentado por Alterraia

Just did this because guild didn't have the achievement, so I pugged and farmed the hammer. The way to make sure you toss the item in, is to set it to an action bar, or keep your bag open, the bag that it's in. That way, when you actually use it, it goes on CD. Once on CD, you done it, kill Yogg, and you win! As others have said, item is not consumed, so just set it to a key you don't really use, preferably one on your action bar, and that's that.

Comentado por Nollly

Omg I love this mace...pretty view

Comentado por dythe

I completed my hammer recently in 4.3 and this quest is quite forgiving. The primary challenge at this point is to ensure you throw the hammer into Yogg's mouth during the first roar. His roar has a fairly long cooldown, and you don't want to risk your raid killing him before he does it a second time.

Oh, and we completed this with a group of 12 people (on 25 man of course) I believe. You don't need many to complete this at this point in the game, provided people understand the encounter mechanics. Though bringing enough dps to kill his brain in one phase is certainly advisable.

Left 3 keepers up due to running with so few people. Used Thorim, Mimiron, and Freya.

Comentado por Nymphia

Multiple raiders can complete this quest in same lockout.

Comentado por Hexxxxxxan

The item stays in your bags after being successfully thrown. That was a confusing part for my group.

Comentado por Paulosio

You need to do this with 3 or less keepers helping you.

Comentado por tsudragon

My quest video show how to finish this quest

http://youtu.be/YzHvZMvvcJQ

Comentado por kekkekaunas

do i need keepers or can i solo it?

Comentado por Palatrino

Real easy to do and I'll explain real easy so you can't screw it up. Did this in WoD lvl 100 Retri.

1. I did Ulduar 25man as I normally previously would.

2. I had 3 keepers (think it's doable with 0 as well but I didn't want to risk anything) I excluded Mimiron, and asked Freya, Thorim and Hodir to help me out.

3. Killed tentacles, waited for portals, nuked the brain inside Yogg-Saron.

4. Got thrown out, had Yogg-Saron on target with my back against him and just waited and spammed my quest item.

5. When he finally does the Deafening Roar the quest item will get a 20sec cooldown and you're ok to kill Yogg-Saron.

6. Don't freak out that the quest isn't complete when you have thrown it, you need to loot an item from Yogg-Saron for it to be completed.

Congratulations on your legendary mace!

Comentado por Araphea

I don't know if anyone's already said this.

But you CAN do the quest WITHOUT ANY guardians activated.
I made sure to ask a GM before finishing it because I didn't want to waste a chance on the mount, nor did I want to take the risk of failing the quest.

Comentado por Calucias

Easy Guide on how to get this legendary!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZZRjm4l_Ag

Comentado por MeAjur

The quest is completeable post-10/25 man merge, despite that the text says 25 man while the flag next to your map will read 10 man.

Comentado por Seonsha

Is there something super special you need to do to make him cast this skill?

I read prior comments which summarize as: Get to phase 3, turn your back to him, spam the quest button, complete.

Problem is when I tried that (even with varying his health amount) he only ever done the insanity laugh.

Comentado por phreakwently

I can confirm this can indeed be completed in patch 8.1, even though the dungeon states 10 man

1) As the others have said, spam the quest item after coming out
2) The loot will be in the chest
3) Hand back in to the archival place behind the Assembly of Iron- check your map on the main floor

Comentado por Araeyn

Here is how I completed this at 120. Note that the quest says it has to be done on heroic however there now only 1 Ulduar setting as far as I know, regular 10 man. I did this with no keepers up/helping me. Some of these steps people probably know as they relate to how to kill Yogg but I'll repeat anyway.

1 Kill the adds near Sara and Yogg will appear when they die on top of her and her health gets to 0.

2 You should be caught in one of Yogg's tentacles after this happens, kill it to free yourself

3 You will see portals open into Yogg-saron's mind, go inside and kill the illusions and the chamber to kill Yogg's brain will be open.

4 Kill Yogg's brain and come back out to the main room. He was at about 30% after this for me.

5 Adds will come out and be attacking you. DO NOT use anything with cleave or you will kill Yogg. Wait for him to cast defeaning roar and spam the quest button to throw the fragments into his maw. I didnt even bother killing the adds. It took less then a minute for him to cast this.

6 After throwing the fragments in you will see a debuff icon under his health bar. If you mouse over it you will see something about the fragments being inside Yogg. This is how you know it has succeeded. There is also a short cooldown of 20 seconds on the quest use icon.

7 The quest will not show as completed at this point, but as long as he has the Val'anyr fragment debuff on him you are ok to kill Yogg. Kill Yogg.

8 Open the loot chest and you will loot the hammer of ancient kings item. It is not looted off Yogg but inside the loot chest.

9 Take the teleport back to the antechamber, turn in the quest at the room behind the assembly of Iron. Done.

Comentado por Arcayic

Anyone in 2020 doing this during Shadowlands, its super simple still.

Engage the boss as normal, go in a portal and kill the illusions, then kill his brain before leaving, when you come out keep your back turned to the boss to make sure you dont auto attack him and just spam the quest item till it goes on cooldown. Once it does, kill the boss and loot the quest item from the chest.
The item wont go on cooldown till you do it at the right time as an FYI so spam away.

Comentado por Kulrig

Kinda ludicrous how I've run Ulduar so many times that I was able to make this hammer, but still have NOT gotten the shoulder token. This tells me I'm doing the boss right, but that the drop luck is not in my favor...

Comentado por Fyler

This is still very easy in 2023.

- When you accept the quest, you are given Fragmentos Soltos de Val'anyr.
- Clear your way to Yogg-Saron.
- Before engaging boss, place Fragmentos Soltos de Val'anyr on your action bar (I had mine on 0).
- After coming out of the illusion, I kept my back turned to the boss, kept him targeted, and spammed my 0 key. Yogg-Saron will eventually cast Rugido Ensurdecedor, which is what is needed to "use" the quest item.
- After you use Fragmentos Soltos de Val'anyr, it will then go on cooldown, which is your confirmation that you have succeeded.
- You can now kill Yogg-Saron.
- After killing Yogg-Saron, Martelo Reforjado dos Reis Antigos will be in the loot chest, which is the item needed to complete this quest.
- Take Martelo Reforjado dos Reis Antigos to the Archivum Console and enjoy your shiny new Val'anyr, o Martelo dos Reis Antigos! This item also rewards the achievement Val'anyr, o Martelo dos Reis Antigos, and if you are in a guild, it will also grant Val'anyr, o Martelo dos Reis Antigos - Edição da Guilda if your guild doesn't have it already.

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Val'anyr, o Martelo dos Reis Antigos

Arremesse os Fragmentos Estilhaçados de Val'anyr na boca de Yogg-Saron quando ele estiver lançando o Rugido Ensurdecedor, derrote Yogg-Saron e pegue o Martelo Reforjado dos Reis Antigos.

Esta missão só pode ser concluída no modo Heroico e apenas se pelo menos um Vigilante de Ulduar não <o/a> estiver ajudando.

	Martelo Reforjado dos Reis Antigos (1)

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	Fragmentos Soltos de Val'anyr (1)

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O console do Archivum indicou uma maneira possível de reatar os fragmentos de Val'anyr: recolha os fragmentos na forma física da criatura conhecida como Yogg-Saron.

As chances parecem pequenas, mas para um artefato de tamanho poder, talvez o risco compense.

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	Val'anyr, o Martelo dos Reis Antigos

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