First Impression of Retribution Paladin Rework in Dragonflight 10.0.7 - Guide Writer Feeback

RTP Criado 22/2/2023 em 12:24 por Bolas

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Proteção Divina is now baseline, with a 1.30 CD (63s with Espírito Indestrutível).

Escudo de Vingança is still a talent that you'll practically always take, and now has a half duration GCD. It still has a 1.30 CD (63s with Espírito Indestrutível).

Égide da Proteção is also in the Ret tree and you'll usually have no problem taking it. It significantly buffs both active defensives.

Couraça Santificada in the Paladin tree, offering a staggeringly large amount of stamina and avoidance.

A plethora of new healing options:
Celeridade da Luz makes Clarão de Luz an instant cast, and buffs its healing. It puts it on a 6s cooldown, but there's no real situation you could ever spam Clarão de Luz to begin with anyway, if nothing else because your mana pool just isn't big enough to let you cast it more than 3 or 4 times in a row.

Prece Guiada casts a free Palavra de Glória once every minute when you drop to low health. It also benefits from Mãos Abençoadas.

Bênção Forjada a Luz gives free AoE healing for every Tempestade Divina.

Alívio do Cruzado causes Golpe do Cruzado to also heal you every hit.

Luz Efêmera gives you an absorb shield based on the damage your generators do.

Proteção DivinaEscudo de VingançaEscudo DivinoCouraça SantificadaMobilitySalto HeroicoCorcel DivinoEscudo DivinoJulgamento da JustiçaCorcel DivinoBênção da LiberdadeLiberdade DescomunalAura da Retribuição50% of their Health in a Single HitAura da RetribuiçãoDo Pó ao PóAura da RetribuiçãoAura da RetribuiçãoThis Cannot Occur More than Once Every 30 Sec

If the ICD is group wide, in groups with one Paladin, you'll have that Paladin start in Aura da Retribuição, proc the damage buff, and then swap to Aura de Devoção. Once the ICD is up, they'll swap back to Aura da Retribuição, and repeat. They'll end up swapping Auras twice every 30s to maintain both the damage buff and the damage reduction.

If the ICD is Paladin specific, you could run 3 Paladins, and have them rotate their Auras to permanently maintain the 5% damage buff. This would at least require the Paladins to swap Auras in the first 10-20s of the fight, and probably more often if subsequent procs don't happen exactly on CD.

Retribution GameplayGolpes CruzadistasGolpe do CruzadoTempestade DivinaAjuste de Contas FinalIra Vingativa: PoderCruzadaIra VingativaAjuste de Contas FinalIra VingativaCruzadaZelote InigualávelCruzadaIra VingativaNew TalentsRetribution Talents

All of the passive stat nodes in the Retribution tree like Ensinamentos da Luz or Adjudicação now have an additional effect to them too, which is a nice bonus to make them a little less boring.

Lâmina Sagrada sorta feels like it just exists to soak up a talent point. I'd consider this a fundamental part of Lâmina da Justiça as a spell, since every version of it we've ever had ended up generating 2 Holy Power, so it feels weird to need to pick it as one of your first talent points.

In the top third of the talent tree, there's only 9 talent nodes and 8 points to spend on them - that said, there are also 6 choice node talents among them, so you still do get to make a lot of choices here, just between two different options on a choice node rather than between two or three different talent paths. There's also two utility nodes here, which means you'll usually just pick one of them to take and then take every other talent in the section. I like the effects these talents provide, but I think most players will be reluctant to take more than one of them since it'll probably come at the cost of a decent amount of damage to do so.

Causa Íntegra vs Arte da Guerra is a really cool way to let players decide the mechanic they want to have for Lâmina da Justiça resets. Causa Íntegra should probably also reset on Tempestade Divina casts though, or otherwise in any situation involving AoE you'd essentially be forced into always taking Arte da Guerra, assuming they're tuned to be comparable on single target.

Julgamento da Justiça is a pretty tame version of O Longo Braço da Lei, but I like that it's managed to sneak its way back into the talent tree in some form, since there's a lot of players that really love that effect.

Expurgo has had a redesign so that it now procs off every Lâmina da Justiça cast rather than just crits. I liked having some talents that would alter your secondary stat preferences, but its position in the tree makes it seem like it's supposed to be a talent that you'll just take in most regular builds rather than a talent that you'd build around for Lâmina da Justiça specifically, which makes sense. Currently if you use Lâmina da Justiça on a target that already has an Expurgo debuff, the original one just gets completely overwritten - I'd like to see a mechanic similar to Cicatrizar Alma instead where the remaining damage on an existing Expurgo dot gets added to any subsequent application instead, especially since Causa Íntegra and Arte da Guerra can cause you to cast a lot of Lâmina da Justiças in a small period.

Legado Empíreo is still a talent I like a lot, but it still has the awkward incentive if you're using Cruzada and Ajuste de Contas Final that you'll probably want to use Tempestade Divina to build Cruzada stacks on single target, to then use the Legado Empíreo proc after your Ajuste de Contas Final at 10 stacks. Hopefully without this might not be a damage gain to do anymore, but it's not very fun to have to hardcast your AoE spender on single target just to save the proc.

It makes sense to nerf Santificar and Lâmina Consagrada when they were previously strong enough to even see use on single target, but I'm not sure it makes sense for them to still be in the talent tree generally when Consagração itself has already had its cooldown increased to 20s and all of the talents that make your generators cleave are likely to be stronger than these anyway. I'm definitely not a big Consagração fan, but these versions of these talents seem like they could just be something else a bit more interesting for Ret.

I like bringing back Ira do Inquisidor, an old Legendary from Legion that never really saw any use, but the % per stack and cap mean that at maximum stacks Tempestade Divina will only do 50% more damage, which isn't even enough to beat a Veredito Final or Vingança do Justicar on single target.

Julgamento do Grão-lorde has an interesting concept, but currently you'll end up constantly overcapping buffs with Ressonância Divina. I'd like to see either an increase in the stack cap, or some other mechanism that means you don't end up losing value from it when every spender you use will be buffed by Julgamento anyway.

Putting Pena de Morte and Ajuste de Contas Final on a choice node together makes sense from the perspective of not wanting too many damage buffing modifiers to exist, but I'm not sure it'd be a really oppressive combination without , and there's a lot of players that really loved that playstyle from Shadowlands who would love to be able to use both at once.

Embalo da Vanguarda currently provides all its damage bonus in just the first talent point, and the second point only gives you one extra charge of Martelo da Ira. It should probably be tuned so that the second point provides a bit more benefit. I like that it emphasizes Martelo da Ira's role during execute a bit more, since it always felt odd to have an execute ability as Ret that didn't significantly increase your overall execute damage.

A choice node between Veredito Final and Vingança do Justicar is a cool idea, but I'd like it more if it was just a "do you want more range on your spender or a heal on your spender" choice rather than also picking between different base damage on each or a Martelo da Ira reset effect too.

There's a few talents that seem like they'll probably be fairly undertuned, like Martelo Divino or Auxiliar Divinal or Chamas Ferventes, but since this is the first iteration of these abilities I'm not too worried about tuning still needing to be done.

Some talents don't really work at all together yet. If you take Golpes Cruzadistas, Selo do Cruzado doesn't proc off your Golpe do Cruzado auto attacks. If you take Martelo Abençoado, Golpe do Cruzado Aprimorado doesn't give it an extra charge, Justiça Célere doesn't reduce its cooldown, and Lâminas da Luz doesn't make it deal Holystrike damage.

I'm really interested to see what happens with the talents that alter spell damage schools like Lâminas da Luz and buff specific schools like Luz Calcinante. These clearly aren't done yet, but it's design space that has seen minimal exploration other than one or two talents like Preparado Sombrio, and I think there could be a lot of really interesting ways to specialize into Physical or Holy or Fire damage that could be really great if they're fully explored.

Paladin Talents

There's definitely some significant pathing improvements - for example, you now no longer have to take 2 ranks of Punho da Justiça to get throughput increases. There's no major issues with throughput nodes being locked behind utility nodes anymore, although there are still a significant number of throughput nodes you'll want to take.

Unlike the Ret tree, most of the passive stat nodes are still just boring multi point passive nodes like Égide Sagrada and Selo do Poder. The one node that has an additional effect, Selo da Diligência, still has the same passive bonus as another node already in the Ret tree, Ensinamentos da Luz. I'd like to see more interesting effects added if we're going to want to spend 4-6 points on this style of damage node.

Punição is a nice bonus for interrupting, and is a lot more reasonable than the free Veredito do Templário that it cast originally.

I'd really like to see real options for pressing your buttons to meaningfully offheal in the Paladin tree. Currently, most of the options are either passive benefits like Bênção Forjada a Luz or Caminho Dourado or Julgamento da Luz that won't help much if your group is taking heavy damage, or effects like Pós-imagem or that would probably be throughput increases for Holy, but aren't very helpful for a Ret trying to offheal in a pinch. Compared to options in other hybrid class trees like Conselho dos Ancestrais or Abraço Vampírico or Vigília da Natureza, there's nothing even close to comparably strong for Paladin.

Incandescência is a lot worse now that Consagração is on a longer cooldown, we don't get free procs as often, and we're less inclined to press it anyway.

A lot of the talents are effectively useless outside of the spec they seem to be primarily designed for - for example, Bênção Forjada a Luz procs off Tempestade Divina when neither of the other Paladin specs actually have access to that ability, and Armadura da Fé is an armor buff when that's a completely irrelevant effect for either Holy or Retribution.

You can still very comfortably take every capstone and lose almost nothing for doing so. Since the entire bottom third of the Paladin tree is essentially throughput, this means that every capstone is now basically a baseline passive damage bonus rather than something you'd ever pick or choose between.

Invocação Vivificada is realistically never going to be used - taking it would desync Preço Divino from your other 60s/2min cooldowns, and losing Ressonância Divina is way too high of a price anyway.

Similar to the choice between Veredito Final and Vingança do Justicar, Selo da Ordem and Luz Efêmera are very similar abilities, except one gives you a stronger throughput bonus while the other simply provides an absorb shield. It'd be a lot more interesting if the choice was more like between a flat damage reduction or an absorb or something similar instead of one being strictly better for throughput.

Is it a Good Rework?yesAura da Retribuição

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