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Comentado por 6918

2.75% antiparry/antidodge at 70 plus a nice sustained proc, well worth any melee's time to run Heroic Magister's.

Comentado por 63660

This is a very very good trinket, might actually be better than warp spring coil and tsunami talisman. It's not widely realised, but expertise rating is actually more powerful than hit rating point for point.

Comentado por asole

Drops from Priestess Delrissa in heroic Magisters' Terrace (the new 5-man instance being added in 2.4).

Comentado por 33158

I would never replace Tsunami Talisman with this, but Bloodlust Brooch? Maybe...

Comentado por cory9919

Im very curious which is better, a Warpspring Coil or this...

Comentado por 61362

Expertise is a very underestimated stat by many. For every melee classe in the game expertise is currently worth X times another stat. For Rogues for example expertise can be worth up to 1.4 agility. So consider that (44*1.4=61.6 agility equivalence) and add that to (230/2.25= Roughly 102.2 Permanent AP if it constantly procs on the borderline 45s Cd)

So +44 expertise (2.75% Parry/Dodge reduction or +61 agility for you "I don't like expertise people" ) and +102 ap is Beaten by what in this $%^&ing game except for DST ?

Clearly best trinket out there. A must have.

Comentado por 44844

Something few people realize is that expertise applies to 100% of your melee damage (unless you're a combat rogue with the 41 point talent), which is especially important for dual wielders. On it's own, attacking from behind, before you're hit capped for your abilities, it's exactly equal to 1 point of hit rating. Most people during trash encounters end up attacking from the front atleast 5-10% of the time, so it's worth double the value of hit for that. Also for any dual wielder who has gone past the ability hit cap, hit will only apply to your white attacks (roughly 50% of your output), while expertise gets the full value per point.

I've also seen parsing showing that special abilities work on a two-roll system, which would further increase the value of expertise if it's true, as removing dodge/parry from an enemy will effect your crit rating of your special attacks.

In the end, this is an incredibly valuable stat, and to have such a huge amount given in a slot that's generally itemized rather weakly is a huge boon. I for one will be replacing the Bloodlust Brooch with this trinket.

Comentado por Hatch

Can anyone who has this confirm if it shares a cooldown with Hourglass of the Unraveller?

Comentado por 20768

This would also be a significant threat-generation boost for tanks. Although the stam/dodge trinket is more clearly tank oriented, I'm hoping to get both. Wear this for trash, wear the Commendation for hard-hitting bosses.

Comentado por intuit

this, like the brooch of deftness, will be a very nice addition to both my fury set and my tank set. Once you hit 142hit as a warrior, the value of +hit goes down (or is useless if you aren't dual wielding) since you won't be missing with your big attacks anymore. These attacks can still be dodged or parried tho. Expertise boosts overall dps significantly and, until you can at least reach the point where your special attacks will no longer be dodged (since mobs generally have a lower % to dodge as opposed to parry), this is probably one of the top 4 trinkets in the game for a dps warrior (DST, madness, and tsunami being the other 3). Try this thing out and you will probably be amazed at how much more dps you are doing (and im only speaking for the expertise...not counting the chance ability).

edit: fury warriors - try the brooch of deftness out as your dps neck if you have one. i recently tried it out in my dps set and i haven't swapped it out yet. that will give you an idea of how powerful this trinket will be.

Comentado por Ermurazor

The reason of this item being desired for many rogues is because for melee attacking from behind, expertise rating is superior to hit rating. Once melee have reached a sufficient amount of hit such that yellow attacks will never be missed, hit rating only benefits white attacks. However, expertise rating will reduce the chance that both yellow and white attacks will be dodged or parried. Therefore, in situations where the chance to miss a yellow attack has been eliminated, and the chance to be dodged still exists, expertise rating will be roughly twice as good as hit rating for a melee player.

Comentado por 56783

Some bosses will parry more than 15% of your attacks.
This is from tank logs i have been shown.
If you attack from the front, there's no reachable expertise cap as far as i am aware.
Remember tanks with current aggro have to attack from the front, and in some rare cases, melee have to do the same.

Comentado por Spiritmonger

A few facts about expertise:

44 expertise rating + 10 expertise talented + 10 expertise rating from Shoulderpads of the Stranger puts a rogue at 26 expertise/6.5% dodge cap. Human rogues require 20 less expertise rating for swords/maces.

Raid bosses can dodge/parry attacks made from behind them, so this % is always used.

Because expertise removes 1% parry AND 1% dodge, it is actually twice as good as 1% hit up to the dodge cap of 103 expertise rating.

Ranged attacks cannot be dodged/parried so hunters shouldn't be using this trinket.

Comentado por adrenalize

Something for the tanks, the folowing item's

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33296 =21 Rating
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34706 =17 Rating
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33516 =22 Rating
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34672 =11 Rating
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30834 =20 Rating
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34472 =44 Rating
=135 Expertise rating

135 Expertise rating works out to be around 34.6 Expertise Skill, Add this to a Protection Warriors Defiance talent which gives 6 Points of Expertise Skill and that's 40 Expertise

For a tank, If you can remain uncrittable and not gimp your Mitigation too much then this would be a pretty amazing set up for threat, and the damage reduction through the reduction of boss parries would be a great help on Hard hitting bosses.

All this with never actualy setting foot into a raid is pretty good.

Just to say, I am not saying a tank should roll for this over a Melee DPS, But if you can get it then it would be an awesome upgradr

Comentado por 102399

This trinket is quite interesting for any rogue speccing hemo as well considering you can't get to the 41 pt combat talent. Capping expertise as far as dodge immunity/avoidance or whatever you want to call it would ensure a few more hemo hits and less wasted energy.

For a combat rogue, as has already been pointed out, 297 hit unbuffed is enough to hit the cap with imp. fairie fire and +20 hit food, at which point additional hit becomes worthless and expertise is the only stat that can increase your hits on a boss mob.
With the new badge loot chest and legs there is no reason for any rogue in t4/t5 instances not to reach 297 hit and then this trinket is simply, the balls.

Comentado por Tamika

Just one small fun fact. You do get chance to get parried anytime you have to farm something (and most of us do farm, be it for fun or whatever else, hehe) so While this trinket is good at raiding, it's plain godly at farming :)

Comentado por 79892

This is very nice for enhancement, and may actually be the best enhancement trinket available right now according to Elitist Jerks.

Comentado por Faerfall

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=CFAB9E49C1C76B6F2E5EE1BBD5973D33?topicId=5591270882&sid=1

Real simple answers.

Q) Is Shard of Contempt an upgrade over -

A) Yes. Yes it is.

Q) But you didn't even let me finish!

A) I don't need to. If you have to ask, it's a goddamn upgrade.

Q) Is there any way it's not an upgrade?

A) I can think of two situations in which Shard of Contempt is not a clear upgrade.
1: You have Blackened Naaru Sliver/Dragonspine Trophy, in which case, you really shouldn't need to ask this question and this thread is not for you. I hope to god you don't need to ask that question.
2) You're already Expertise capped, in which case, you should replace your Vashj belt/Hydross shoulders/terrible Alar gloves with better, non-expertise stuff and equip a friggin Shard.

Q) What if I'm Mutilate/Shadowstep/Hemo?

A) Still better. In fact, if you're Mutilate, it's probably better than DST. Shard/Ashtongue is disgusting.

Q) I don't understand Expertise.

A) Okay, you know those annoying dodges? The ones that reduce your DPS and won't go away no matter how many Rigid Dawnstones you put in everything? Expertise makes those go away - not just on your white damage, but on your specials (which is why the Shard is so sickeningly good for Mutilate.) Until you cap it out (at 103 rating, 63 if you're combat, 43 if you're human), Expertise is god damn amazing. It's hit rating on crack. It's old-school Weapon Skill with a side of good itemization. It's Karl Malone driving across the court and dunking in five guys' face without spilling the beer in his other hand. It's the pimpest *@%* there is.

Q) What about the proc?

A) 10%-ish proc rate, 20-second duration, 45-second hidden cooldown. So that's pretty much nearly a 50% uptime rate for 230 AP. So yeah the proc is amazing, and that's why this isn't a gimmicky "let's cap Expertise and stand in the frontal arc of anything that doesn't cleave!" item. It's just a winner and if you see one drop, stab the rest of your group to equip it.

Q) Is this useful for anyone else?

A) DPS warriors, bonkadins, Enhance shammies, and feral druids can all get some good use out of it, especially the latter two with their lack of Expertise talents. You should still stab them if they outroll you on it, but that's just to make sure you get it, not on any sort of principle. It's not a DST.

But for the love of God, don't let a hunter take it.

Q) So why don't you have one?

Shut the hell up.

Comentado por 40935

This trinket can proc off of Sap. However my tank pulls very fast and I open quickly, so I can't confirm whether or not it removes stealth as I was not prepared for it to proc. Happened 3 times in a row in Heroic MgT.

Comentado por Rerox

The great thing about this trinket for rogues in the T5/T6-content range is that it opens up a great deal of equipment possibilities. Stuff from T5-instances like Shoulderpads of the Stranger, Gloves of the Searing Grip or even Belt of One-Hundred Deaths no longer are best in slot for many rogues, because the expertise-cap can be reached by 2 talent points (weapon expertise 2/2) and this trinket if you are human or nearly reached (20 exp. rating missing) for nonhumans.

Comentado por 88730

I dont know if this is just me, but I think the proc on this resets your swing timer I've noticed. Not a big deal if you are a duel weilder, but those of us swinging 2 handers it knocks a little wind out of our DPS.

Comentado por 69978

Currently the best way to cap your expertise in high end raiding is by having this trinket along with the new tier 6 boots and the expertise talent which will bring u to 27 expertise.

Comentado por mythology

A nice item, as a feral druid and the only melee in my party I was horrified when an ele shaman ninjaed this. A couple of days later I did get it. I am not 100% sure on the 45 sec cooldown, when using it seems slightly longer though I can't be sure.

Comentado por Giraf

I play my tank as an off class, (warrior, my main is a hunter) and this dropped yesterday, i took it as noone else wanted it. And i must say its great, i hardly have any bosses in kara dodge or parry so i generate somewhat more threat. i love it and im using it.

Comentado por 114730

Ok, I was lucky enough to get my hands on this with my rogue, tonight, and in the first pack beyond the Priestess it procced twice, during Kael, it procced... three or four times.

I'll get back to you once i've done some extensive testing.
I'm really looking forward to it, though, it seems alot better than my Tsunami already, being up more often. (10% on any landed swing, whereas tsunmi needs a crit, not to mention different durations)

Comentado por 3319

To quote ElitistJerks, here are the top 3 dps trinkets for enhance shamans:

# Estimated ~250 EP 45 second internal cooldown, believed to have between 1-1.2 PPM.
# 160.25 EP = ( 40 + ( 325 * HasteRating * 10 * 1.5 / 60 ))
Assuming a 1.5 PPM
# New drop from Zul'Aman. 150 EP = 90 + ( 360 * 20 / 120)

Dear god this thing is insane.

Source: http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t13297-enhance_shaman_collected_works_theorycraft_vol_i/

Comentado por 23311

Q) So why don't you have one?

Shut the hell up.

Quoted for absolute truth. It's been two weeks since release and I still do not have one, even despite running the instance every night (save for two). Frustrating.

Still, MgT Heroic is a pretty fast and generally painless run with four Badges and some other neat loots here and there, and as such is worth running regardless of one's need for trinkets. The call of the Shard, however, is too strong to ignore, and any melee DPSer worth their salt will be after it.

It's nice to see that with items such as the Shard, Blizzard is finally acknowledging how important this stat is for all melee DPS, and not just Rogues. Most Expertise can be found on either Leather gear, or tank-specific gear; strange considering that it is so critical for every class that spends their time in close-quarters with mobs.

Took a long time, but the Shard was worth the wait. Once you get it after sharding Timbal's 6 times.

Comentado por pibbz

For a Retribution paladin, this trinket is almost a must. With a slow swing timer, you really want to hit as often as possible. 2-3 dodges in a row WILL hurt your DPS badly.

If you are hit capped otherwise, combine this trinket with the following Tier 6 items:

Shard of Contempt 44 expertise
Lightbringer Bands 16 expertise
Lightbringer Girdle 25 expertise
Lightbringer Boots 19 expertise

And you will be expertise capped (while attacking from behind) with a grand total of 104 expertise rating.

Comentado por MetalGenocide

As a Retribution paladin, I'm currently using:
Hourglass of the Unraveller (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28034)
and the Medallion of the Horde for PvP.

But for PvE I'm using Bladefist's Breadth
(http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28041)
instead of the medallion.

I'm just wandering if this is better then the hourglass for PvP?
And if it's better then Bladefist's breadth / Hourglass for PvE?

I'm no where near T6, and people wont even let me raid Kara.
I'm sporting full gladiator gear other then Vengeful scaled gloves.

thanks for any advice/comments.

Comentado por 123602

it procs for ranged attackers. I have 1 on my hunter and it procs .

Comentado por Isilien

I just had a hunter roll against me (feral druid) for this. Hunters, there are better (and more easily obtained) trinkets out there for you. Leave this one to the melee dpsers who can utilise it much more effectively.

Comentado por cheesepizza

It procs off sap!

Comentado por JStokes

Procced off a Pick Pocket...

Comentado por 9020

The proc rate is fairly high and it's a very very awesome trinket.

Killing level 70-71 range mobs I used to get a lot of parry and now with this trinket... almost like none on every fight.

Very powerful trinket + procs rate is high.

Comentado por 30651

The new, revised version from the OP:

Real simple answers.

Q) Is Shard of Contempt an upgrade over -

A) Yes. Yes it is.

Q) But you didn't even let me finish!

A) I don't need to. If you have to ask, it's a goddamn upgrade.

Q) Is there any way it's not an upgrade?

A) I can think of three situations in which Shard of Contempt is not a clear upgrade.
1: You have Blackened Naaru Sliver/Dragonspine Trophy, in which case, you really shouldn't need to ask this question and this thread is not for you. I hope to god you don't need to ask that question.
2) You're already Expertise capped, in which case, you should replace your Vashj belt/Hydross shoulders/terrible Alar gloves with better, non-expertise stuff and equip a friggin Shard.
3. You're Expertise capped due to Slayer's Boots, which are just far above and beyond any other available boots even if the Expertise could be considered a wasted stat. In this case, just run the spreadsheet and see if Madness/Ashtongue might be better for your particular gear, and see #1 about not really needing to ask me.

Q) What if I'm Mutilate/Shadowstep/Hemo?

A) Still better. In fact, if you're Mutilate, it's probably better than DST. Shard/Ashtongue is disgusting.

Q) I don't understand Expertise.

A) Okay, you know those annoying dodges? The ones that reduce your DPS and won't go away no matter how many Rigid Dawnstones you put in everything? Expertise makes those go away - not just on your white damage, but on your specials (which is why the Shard is so sickeningly good for Mutilate.) Until you cap it out (at 103 rating, 63 if you're combat, 43 if you're human), Expertise is god damn amazing. It's hit rating on crack. It's old-school Weapon Skill with a side of good itemization. It's Karl Malone driving across the court and dunking in five guys' face without spilling the beer in his other hand. It's the pimpest *@%* there is.

Expertise will also make parries go away; you technically aren't supposed to get those behind a mob but due to server-client lag you will (or rather, now you won't!) However, standing in front of mobs won't work properly because their parry rate is actually higher than 6.5%. It is possible to get enough Expertise to make that parry rate go away (something in excess of 150 rating total), but you really shouldn't bother. Just stand in the rear 180 like a good little buttonmasher.

Q) What about the proc?

A) 10%-ish proc rate, 20-second duration, 45-second hidden cooldown. So that's pretty much nearly a 50% uptime rate for 230 AP. So yeah the proc is amazing, and that's why this isn't a gimmicky "let's cap Expertise and stand in front of Prince Malch in Phase 3!" trinket. It's just a winner and if you see one drop, stab the rest of your group to equip it.

(It has been noted that the actual uptime is around 45%, which may not be "nearly 50%" depending on your standards of colloquialism.)

Q) Is this useful for anyone else?

A) DPS warriors, bonkadins, Enhance shammies, and feral druids can all get some good use out of it, especially the latter two with their lack of Expertise talents. You should still stab them if they outroll you on it, but that's just to make sure you get it, not on any sort of principle. It's not a DST.

But for the love of God, don't let a hunter take it.

Q) So why don't you have one?

Shut the hell up.

Comentado por 23311

And if it's better then Bladefist's breadth / Hourglass for PvE?

Much, much, much better than both. The 44 Expertise is infinitely more valuable than the crit %, and the proc on the Shard lasts longer than either of the other two, and is generally more powerful for other reasons. No question, you want this for PvE, without a doubt.

Comentado por Headhuntress

Proc name was changed to "Disdain" in 2.4.2. Used to be "Heroism".

Comentado por 116684

As for patch 2.4.2 the proc changed name from Heroism to Disdain

Comentado por Raziek

As of 2.4.2 the proc effect on the Shard of Contempt has been renamed from "Heroism" to "Disdain", to avoid confusion in WWS and combat logs with the Alliance Bloodlust. (Also called Heroism)

Edit: Seems I'm a tad late. Point still stands :3

Comentado por 131525

hello guys - i need some advice about this item

plz check my gear and stats in armory link and tell me which of the

2 trinkets should i change in order to replace it with the shard of

condempt

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Neptulon&n=Tsarlaider

tx

Comentado por 4723

As patch 2.4.2, the buff you receive is no longer called Heroism. It has been changed to Disdain. The buff itself remains the same.

Comentado por 90630

Dont know if anyone already posted but, It procs on ranged attacks, just did for me with throw.

So the one that says this isent a hunter trinket with the ap proc, is wrong.

Edit: Iam not saying its a pure hunter trinket, but they can have use of it.

Comentado por 153138

I just did my 34th heroic run today, and no shard of contempt... i have the worst luck in the world i believe.

Comentado por 147846

does it proc with judgments or consecration?

Comentado por 95700

1%hit< 1%expertise because hit only affects white dmg.

1% expertise, from behind, only affects dodges...correct.

however, SPECIAL ATTACKS can also be dodged. You will not miss special attacks after roughly 9% hit, you will still be dodged/parried/blocked.

After you are expertise capped it does nothing for you.
26 or so expertise.
After you are hit capped it does nothing for you.
400 or so hit rating for dual wielders.

Comentado por 66617

As a fury warrior, this trinket along with the thrown weapon off the Priestess on normal, and the 2% dodge reduction from talents, my dps went up nearly 25%. If you aren't in BT/SW, this is the best trinket for a fury warrior, in my opinion.

Comentado por 159543

I just took at look at Teron WWS from the other night...220 second fight....myself and the other rogue both had 5 procs, 100 second uptime. the fury warrior and enhancement shaman in the same group had 4 procs, 80 second uptime.

Comentado por 99096

Does anyone know if expertise adds a hidden +hit as if your weapon skill is = to a lvl 73+ mob's defence

Comentado por 159864

Any thoughts on its uses in PvP?

I'm currently rocking the Shadowsong Panther Figurine.

Comentado por 156601

Sword/Mace wielding human combat rogues with 2/2 combat expertise will reach the expertise cap with this trinket. 10 + 5 + 11.16 = 26.16. Yay

The proc is a nice bonus, too. :P

Comentado por 102260

For Protection Warriors:
26 *is* the 'first cap' its not THE cap.
26 removes dodges from the equation.
Parry rate is unknown. Assumed to be 10.6%.
Alot of WWS Report show bosses parry rate closer to 15%.
Head over to elitistjerks, on the Protection Warrior thread there is a good discussion about that.
Ref : http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t18771-protection_warrior/

To reach 10.6% parry reduction, you need 42.4 expertise (168 rating).
To reach 15% parry reduction, you need 64 expertise (253 rating).

So, depending on what you believe the cap is 64 or 42. Not 26.

** Edited to add EJ's thread URL.
** Edited to match updated data (Thanks Rayzorium)

Wrong and right. More on the wrong side, however. The cap for all intents and purposes IS 26. As a Melee DPS, you should be BEHIND the mob at all times. Guess what? Mobs can't parry from behind. Sure, if you do hit the actual expertise hard-cap of 64/42 you could stand in front without triggering Parry, but what about Cleave, and frontal AoEs?

You ALWAYS stand BEHIND the mob as a Melee DPS, so YOUR expertise cap is 26. End of story.

Comentado por necos

u didn't read the first part did u buttspawn? he clearly stated that he was talking about prot warrs. now then. i U'R prot warr is standing behind the boss. i would very well like to know who's standing in front of it. u know.. the TANK. not saying prot warr should try to max out expertise.. just saying thats what he refferd to...

Comentado por 174198

Hi!
I'd like to ask if it's a good trinket for a warrior in arena. Many classes have tlalents for dodge and parry so it might help us to counter them a bit, and the +AP can come handy as well. So i'd like to know if it's a good dps trinket in arena or other trinkets can help a lot more?
Thank you in advance.

Comentado por 102260

Why do idiots down-vote IMPORTANT and PERTINENT information?

Morons.

For Protection Warriors:
26 *is* the 'first cap' its not THE cap.
26 removes dodges from the equation.
Parry rate is unknown. Assumed to be 10.6%.
Alot of WWS Report show bosses parry rate closer to 15%.
Head over to elitistjerks, on the Protection Warrior thread there is a good discussion about that.
Ref : http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t18771-protection_warrior/

To reach 10.6% parry reduction, you need 42.4 expertise (168 rating).
To reach 15% parry reduction, you need 64 expertise (253 rating).

So, depending on what you believe the cap is 64 or 42. Not 26.

** Edited to add EJ's thread URL.
** Edited to match updated data (Thanks Rayzorium)

Wrong and right. More on the wrong side, however. The cap for all intents and purposes IS 26. As a Melee DPS, you should be BEHIND the mob at all times. Guess what? Mobs can't parry from behind. Sure, if you do hit the actual expertise hard-cap of 64/42 you could stand in front without triggering Parry, but what about Cleave, and frontal AoEs?

You ALWAYS stand BEHIND the mob as a Melee DPS, so YOUR expertise cap is 26. End of story.

Comentado por Athene

I was wondering for a while what the "disdain" buff I got regularily was, since there is not "disdain" buff on wowhead. I'm pretty sure it's the procc from this trinket.
I can't remember seeing the bufficon i TBC, only in WotLK, but I might have overlooked it.

Comentado por 34369

This trinket effectively caps a human rogue wielding swords/maces on expertise.

Precisely hits the cap, like a glove.

Comentado por 105203

In patch 3.0 that I know about from heavy research and playing on the Public Test Realm, all the Prot paladin abilities, seal of righteous, seal of vengeance (more on AP), judgements, consecration, holy shield(rumored to be dependent on AP) once known to be dependent soley on spell dmg will be heavily dependent on AP besides spell dmg. The AP proc on this trinket actually helps protection paladins. ALl these abilities are still consider holy spell dmg, however and will not be improved by expertise. THese abilities cannot be dodged, parried, only spell resisted or missed. We also have a new ability in the talent tree called Hammer of the Righteous which hits the target and adjacent 2 other targets in melee range and is discussed to be based on AP with the base main hand damage per second and is considered to be a physical attack that can be dodged, parried or missed, though it will be treated as holy dmg (thus affected by Righteous fury threat buff on holy dmg). The expertise would help this ability to not be dodged or parried.

This trinket is more useful than before to Protection Paladins. It also as a tank will reduce the parries from the boss that could hit the tank. Though, only the protection paladin's auto attack and Hammer of righteous attack could be parried in return, where as warriors' abilities are parry-able. It is higher concern for them, because they are doing something that could be parried every auto attack and several other abilities in between.

If you have the room for it on your gear, comfortable with your dodge/defense stats, you can wear it for extra protection against parries. or If you are doing low dmg fight where you want to aggro faster, then you can wear it and help aggro for the proc.

Comentado por Chaserbl

proc chance really high
best PVE and PVP trinket for melee dps if you ask me
MUST have item

Comentado por 249275

I think this trinket is decent for leveling.
While you are leveling, mobs alway turn back to you immediately.
If you don't have the ZA trinket or something better, you can use this trinket up to lv80.

Comentado por 200980

Im actualy using this on my lvl 80 DK, and even tough its 25man geared i still find this as one of the best trinkets there is.

Comentado por 57336

I got this today-- Went outside the instance fought a few mobs-- the notice between the old +50 attack power trinket and this one was considerable, like as if I was suddenly level 72.

Comentado por thesandman87

got it for my DK tank the expertise helps and i get increaded threat gen with it also

Comentado por sorsa

Few years later and I still get a woody just looking at this.

Comentado por 1027682

As of 5.0 (MoP) hunters need expertise, making this the only way to get that stat in a way that is not a major downgrade.

This is now the number one trinket for hunters @ lvl 70.

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