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Battle for Azeroth Community Opinions: State of Affliction Warlocks

criado 11/6/2018 em 19:36 por Squishei

comprehensive list of class changes

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Terryn: Former Affliction Warlock guide author for WoWhead, MMO-Champion, Lock One Stop Shop, and sh**poster at Council of Black Harvest. Former raider / raid leader in <Crisp> on Baelgun, and now Mythic+ runner and spending a lot of time on Beta investigating things.

Gahddo: One of the 3 Illuminati at Council of the Black Harvest and eater of mangos, Gahddo manages a lot of the SimCraft APLs, and helps organize and run all of those wonderful trinket sims that you find on Lock One Stop Shop

Xyronic: You can find him chilling in Limit, and maintaining the Affliction guide for Wowhead. Also watch him at the Mythic Dungeon Invitational.

REMOVED Summon Doomguard Summons a Doomguard for 25 sec to assault the target with its Doom Bolts.

REMOVED Fôlego Interminável Allows an ally to breathe underwater and increases swim speed by 20% for 10 min.

Banir Banishes an enemy Demon, Aberration, or Elemental, preventing any action for 30 sec. Limit 1. Casting Banish again on the target will cancel the effect.
Cost changed from 2.5% of base mana to 1.5% of base mana

Comandar Demônio Commands your demon to perform its most powerful ability. This spell will transform based on your active pet.
Imp: Singe Magic
Voidwalker: Suffering
Succubus: Seduction
Felhunter: Spell Lock
Felguard: Felstorm
Doomguard: Shadow Lock
Infernal: Meteor StrikeFelguard: Axe Toss
Felhunter: Spell Lock
Voidwalker: Shadow Bulwark
Succubus: Seduction
Imp: Singe Magic

Criar Pedra de Vida Creates a Healthstone that can be consumed to restore 25%25% health.
Cost changed from 5.0% of base mana to 2.0% of base mana

Criar Poço das Almas Creates a Soulwell for 2 min. Party and raid members can use the Soulwell to acquire a Healthstone.
Cost changed from 10.0% of base mana to 5.0% of base mana

Portal Demoníaco Creates a demonic gateway between two locations. Activating the gateway transports the user to the other gateway. Each player can use a Demonic Gateway only once per 1.50 min.
Cost changed from 10.0% of base mana to 3.0% of base mana
Cast Time changed from 3 sec cast to 2 sec cast

Escravizar Demônio Enslaves the target demon up to level 57, forcing it to do your bidding for 5 min.
Cost changed from 5.0% of base mana to 2.0% of base mana

Olho de Kilrogg Summons an Eye of Kilrogg and binds your vision to it. The eye is stealthed and moves quickly but is very fragile.
Cost changed from 4.0% of base mana to 3.0% of base mana

Medo Strikes fear in the enemy, disorienting for 20 sec. Damage may cancel the effect. Limit 1.
Cost changed from 10.0% of base mana to 5.0% of base mana

Ritual de Evocação Begins a ritual to create a summoning portal, requiring the caster and 2 allies to complete. This portal can be used to summon party and raid members.
Cost changed from 4.0% of base mana to 5.0% of base mana

Estilhaços de Alma Soul Shards and Soul Shard Fragments are generated by some of your spells and consumed to cast your most powerful spells and summon demons to serve you.
While out of combat you regenerate up to 3 Soul Shards.10 Soul Shard Fragments make up 1 Soul Shard.
While out of combat you regenerate up to 3 Soul Shards.

Pedra da Alma Stores the soul of the target party or raid member, allowing resurrection upon death.
Affliction and Demonology and Destruction (Level 70)
Also castable to resurrect a dead target
Targets resurrect with 100%60% health and 20% mana.

Evocar Infernal Summons an Infernal from the Twisting Nether, impacting for (100% of Spell power) Fire damage and stunning all enemy targetsenemies in the area for 2 sec. Thesec.
The Infernal will serve you for 25 sec, dealing strong area-of-effect damage.30 sec, dealing (50% of Spell power) damage to all nearby enemies every 2 sec and generating 1 Soul Shard Fragment every 0.5 sec.
No longer Affliction/Demonology

NEW Fúria Sombria Stuns all enemies within 8 yds for 43 sec.
Now baseline
Range changed from 30 yd range to 35 yd range
Cooldown changed from 30 sec cooldown to 1 min cooldown

Determinação Interminável Hardens your skin, reducing all damage you take by 40% and granting immunity to interrupt and silence effects for 8 sec.
Cost changed from 10.0% of base mana to 2.0% of base mana

Removed

REMOVED Círculo Demoníaco Summons a Demonic Circle for 15 min. allowing you to cast it againCast Demonic Circle: Teleport to teleport to its location and remove all movement slowing effects.Limit 1.
Changed spell ID

REMOVED Grimório do Serviço Summons a second demon which fights for you for 25 sec and deals 100% increased damage. 1.5 min cooldown. The demon will immediately use one of its special abilities when summoned.

New

NEW Fúria Negra Reduces the cooldown of Shadowfury by 15 sec.
Tier 5 Talent

NEW Summons a Demonic Circle for 15 min. Cast Demonic Circle: Teleport to teleport to its location and remove all movement slowing effects.
You also learn: Demonic Circle - Teleport
Teleports you to your Demonic Circle and removes all movement slowing effects.
New version

Swapped Positions

Impulso Ardente Increases your movement speed by 50%, but also damages you for 4% of your maximum health every 1 sec. Movement impairing effects may not reduce you below 100% of normal movement speed. Lasts until cancelled.
Tier 3 Talent

Pacto Sombrio Sacrifices 20% of your current health to shield you for 400%250% of the sacrificed health for 20 sec. Usable while suffering from control impairing effects.
Tier 3 Talent

Pele de Demônio Your Soul Leech absorption now passively recharges at a rate of 1%0.5% of maximum health every 1 sec, and may now absorb up to 20%15% of maximum health.
Tier 3 Talent

Círculo Demoníaco Summons a Demonic Circle for 15 min, allowing you to cast it again to teleport to its location and remove all movement slowing effects. Limit 1.
Tier 5 Talent
Cost changed from 5.0% of base mana to 2.0% of base mana

Espiral da Morte Horrifies an enemy target into fleeing, incapacitating for 3 sec and healing you for 20% of maximum health.
Tier 5 Talent
Cost changed from 6.0% of base mana to 2.0% of base mana

Changed

Conduíte da Alma Every Soul Shard you spend has a 20%15% chance to be refunded.

NEW While below 50% health, your Drain Life heals for an additional 77 health each 1 sec.

NEW When you use a Healthstone, gain 88 Leech for 20 sec

Bruxo de Suplício Apply Aura: Modifies Damage/Healing Done by 14% 25%.

REMOVED Shadow Bite Your Felhunter's Shadow Bite deals 50% increased damage for each of your Affliction damage over time effects on the target.

NEWEvocar Clarão Sombrio Summons a Darkglarefrom the Twisting Nether that extends the duration of your damage over time effects on all enemies by 8 sec.
The Darkglare will serve you for 20 sec, blasting its target for (40% of Spell power) Shadow damage, increased by 10% for every damage over time effect you have active on any target.

Agonia Inflicts increasing agony on the target, causing up to 31.86%7.2% of Spell power) * 6] Shadow damage over 18 sec. Damage starts low and increases over the duration. Refreshing Agony maintains its current damage level.
Agony damage sometimes generates 1 Soul Shard.
Cost changed from 3.0% of base mana to 1.0% of base mana

Corrupção Corrupts the target, causing (226.8%63% of Spell power) Shadow damage over 14 sec.
Cost changed from 3.0% of base mana to 1.0% of base mana

Conversão de Vida Restores 30% of your maximum manaGrants 1 Soul Shard at the cost of 10%15% of your maximum health.
Now available to all specs
Now requires Level 20, up from 8
Cooldown changed from None to 30 sec recharge
Charges changed from None to 3 Charges

Maestria: Suplícios Potentes Increases damage done by Agony, Corruption, Siphon Life, Phantom Singularity, Vile Taint, and Unstable Affliction by 25%)20.0%.

Semente da Corrupção Embeds a demon seed in the enemy target that will explode after 18 sec, dealing (172%12 sec, dealing (20% of Spell power) Shadow damage to all enemies within 10 yards and applying Corruption to them.
The seed will detonate early if the target is hit by other detonations, or takes (Spell power * 30050 / 100) damage from your spells.

Seta Sombria Sends a shadowy bolt at the enemy, causing (160%45% of Spell power) Shadow damage.
Cost changed from 6.0% of base mana to 2.0% of base mana

Agonia Instável Afflicts the target with (370.8%64% of Spell power) Shadow damage over 8 sec. You may afflict a target with up to 5 Unstable Afflictions at once.
If dispelled, deals You deal 10% increased damage to targets affected by your Unstable Affliction.
If dispelled, deals of Spell power) * 400 / 100] damage to the dispeller and silences them for 4 sec.
Affliction (Level 26)
Refunds 1 Soul Shard if the target dies while afflicted.

Live

BFA

Removed

REMOVED Contágio You deal 15%10% increased damage to targets affected by your Unstable Affliction.

REMOVED Agony, Corruption, Unstable Affliction, Seed of Corruption, and Shadow Bolt deal up to 50%40% increased damage on targets below 35% health. Damage increase is higher against lower health targets.

REMOVED Conversão de Vida Potencializada Life Tap increases your damage dealt by 10% for 20 sec.

REMOVED Uivo do Terror Let loose a terrifying howl, causing 5 enemies within 10 yds to flee in fear, disorienting them for 20 sec. Damage may cancel the effect.

REMOVED Garra Maléfica While channeling Drain Soul, your damage over time effects deal 25%20% increased damage to the target.

REMOVED Colheita de Almas Increases your damage and your pets' damage by 20%. Lasts 12 sec, increased by 4 sec for each target afflicted by your Agony up to a maximum of 36 sec.

New

NEW Morte Rastejante Your Agony, Corruption, Siphon Life, and Unstable Affliction deal their full damage 15% faster.
Tier 7 Talent
Inspired by the legendary Capuz do Desdém Eterno

NEW Alma Negra: Padecimento Infuses your soul with the misery of fallen foes, increasing haste by 30% for 20 sec.
Tier 7 Talent

NEW Seta da Morte Launches a bolt of death at the target, dealing 40% of the total remaining damage of your damage over time effects on the target.
Tier 1 Talent

NEW Abraço Sombrio Drain Soul, Shadow Bolt applies Shadow Embrace, increasing your damage dealt to the target by 3% for 10 sec. Stacks up to 3 times.
Tier 6 Talent

NEW Mácula Torpe Erupts a vile pool at the target location, dealing (75% of Spell power) Shadow damage over 10 sec to all enemies within 10 yds and reducing their movement speed by 30%.
Tier 4 Talent

Changed

Corrupção Absoluta Corruption is now permanent and deals 25% increased damage. Duration15% increased damage.
Duration reduced to 24 sec against players.

Drenar Alma Drains the target's soul, causing (90%75% of Spell power) Shadow damage over 5 sec.
Damage is increased by 100% against enemies below 20% health.
Generates 1 Soul Shard if the target dies during this effect.
Tier 1 Talent

Grimório de Sacrificar SacrificeSacrifices your demon pet for power, gaining its command demon ability, and 15% increased damage done.
Lasts 1 hour or until you summon a demon pet.causing your spells to sometimes also deal (35% of Spell power) additional Shadow damage.
Lasts 1 hour or until you summon a demon pet.

Possessão A ghostly soul haunts the target, dealing (500%55% of Spell power) Shadow damage and increasing your damage dealt to the target by 15% for 10 sec. If10% for 15 sec.
If the target dies, Haunt's cooldown is reset.
Tier 6 Talent, cost changed from 5.0% of base mana to 2.0% of base mana, cooldown changed from 25 sec to 15 sec cooldown

Ocaso Corruption damage has a chance to cause your next Shadow Bolt to be instant and deal 25% increased damage.
Tier 1 Talent

Singularidade Fantasmática Places a phantom singularity above the target, which consumes the life of all enemies within 15 yards, dealing 180%18% of Spell power)] damage over 16 sec, healing you for 20%25% of the damage done.
Cooldown changed from 40 sec to 45 sec

Sifão de Vida Siphons the target's life essence, dealing 25 Shadow damage over 15 sec and healing you for 60%30% of the damage done.
Tier 2 Talent

Plantar as Sementes Seed of Corruption will now embednow embeds a demon seed in 2 additional nearby enemies.into 1 additional nearby enemy.

Contorça-se em Agonia Agony's damage may now ramp up to 15 stacks.
Tier 2 Talent

Maldição da Fragilidade Reduces the target's maximum health by 20%up to 15% for 10 sec.

Dreno de Essência Whenever you heal yourself with Drain Soul/DrainDrain Life, the enemy target deals 5% reduced damage to you for 6 sec. Stacks up to 5 times.

Proteção Etérea Surrounds the caster with a shield that lasts 53 sec, reflecting all harmful spells cast on you.

Podridão e Decomposição Each time your Drain SoulLife deals damage, it increases the duration of your Unstable Affliction, Corruption and Agony on the target by 1 sec.

Abalo Anímico Consumes all of your damage over time effects on the 5 nearest enemies within 40 yards, dealing up to 10% of their totalmaximum health in Shadow damage.
For each enemy hit by Soulshatter, you gain 1 Soul Shard and 10% Haste for 8 sec.

NEW Casting Unstable Affliction on a target affected by your Unstable Affliction increases your Haste by 208 for 15 sec

NEW Unstable Affliction deals 100 additional damage, and casting Unstable Affliction reduce the cooldown of Summon Darkglare by 3 sec.

NEW Damaging an enemy with Corruption increases the damage of your next Drain Life by 4. This effect stacks up to 100 times.

NEW Agony deals up to an additional 144 damage and starts with 4 stacks.

NEW Lucidez Lancinante Every other Soul Shard your Agony generates also increases your Intellect by 63 for 6 sec.

Changes from LegionGeneral Game Play:

Removal of Drain as our filler, addition of Seta Sombria

Drenar Alma is no longer baseline. Drenar Vida has had its damage significantly reduced, with the intent of being a non-cooldown defensive.

Life Tap has been removed, and now your mana pool is irrelevant.

Removal of Infernal / Doomguard, addition of new Cooldown: Evocar Clarão Sombrio. Evocar Clarão Sombrio extends the duration of all dots when he is summoned by 8 seconds, and deals damage to one target based on the total number of dots that are out.

Mastery now effects basically all spells EXCEPT Seta Sombria.

Artifact is gone.

Fúria Sombria is back and is baseline (with a cast time).

Removal of legendaries (a few make their return in talents)

has been removed, and replaced with a much less powerful execute in Drenar Alma.

How does the spec feel now?Chama d'AlmaIra da ConsumiçãoEvocar Clarão SombrioSemente da CorrupçãoTalents:Tier 15Drenar AlmaOcasoSeta da MorteSeta da MorteDrenar AlmaOcasoSeta da MorteSeta da MorteAgonia InstávelAgonia InstávelEvocar Clarão SombrioTier 30Sifão de VidaCorrupção AbsolutaContorça-se em AgoniaCorrupção AbsolutaCorrupção AbsolutaGolpe Negro de LátegaTier 45Sorvo de AlmaPele de DemônioTier 60Plantar as SementesSemente da CorrupçãoMácula TorpeAgonia InstávelMácula TorpeSemente da CorrupçãoPlantar as SementesSingularidade FantasmáticaTier 75Fúria NegraFúria SombriaCírculo DemoníacoTier 90PossessãoGrimório de SacrificarComandar DemônioTier 100Seta da MorteAlma Negra: PadecimentoMorte RastejanteMorte RastejanteAlma Negra: PadecimentoEvocar Clarão SombrioHeart of Azeroth Traits: Chamado PavorosoÓbito InevitávelDrenar VidaInício SúbitoChanges Recommended Before Tuning:

Make Abraço Sombrio baseline. Currently Seta Sombria does nothing but damage, and all fillers in the other 2 specs do SOMETHING other than damage. This will provide some flavor and give the base spec some extra decision making in multi dot situations.

In Abraço Sombrio place: Grimoire trait that makes Seta Sombria / Drain reduce the duration of Evocar Clarão Sombrio. There’s some tuning but something along the lines of 2 seconds / 1 second split, or even 1 second / .5 seconds, pending on the balance. This will give the spec an option to speed things up on pure single target, and makes this talent less useful in multi target, where having multiple Evocar Clarão Sombrios would become increasingly strong. This also allows the spec to provide some further use to Seta Sombria. Really something that allows shadowbolt to lightly modify pure single target damage makes the most sense here

Abraço Sombrio needs to last for 12 seconds. A lot of the testing we’ve done and one extra GCD will really help solve a lot of issues with trying to maintain this on even 2 targets. Another note is Abraço Sombrio used to be 12 seconds duration in Cataclysm, so it would make some sense to return to that duration.

Provide a way to give the Golpe Negro de Látega effect. It feels really bad to lose this utility, and it would be nice to be able to specialize Corrupção Absoluta into this.

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Comentado por AnderyFirst. Demonology warlock is so fun!Comentado por TerariAffliction does feel weak which sucks, as Affliction just "feels" like a Warlock to me and is my favorite spec. Love curses and hexes. My biggest complaint is actually the loss of Drain Soul's heal. The rest is kinda the same with a few things moved around. Lost something, gained something. But the spec feels weak for sure.

However, this is A) Beta, and B) expansion launch. We know how things get tweaked during an expansion cycle. Take my other favorite, Arcane Mage in Legion. When Legion launched, Arcane felt very weak. I went Fire for a while. And then... holy moly Blizzard! Now Arcane is one of the top dps specs imo. And I love it. I see the same for Affliction. At launch people are probably going to go to the FOTM Demonology spec. And that's okay. Sometime in the cycle Blizzard will visit Affliction and set things right again. Until then, gotta weather the storm.Comentado por TerariAlso, I know Shadowbolt is a community favorite and a lot of people like having it back, but I've never liked it. I dont know why. I just really liked and felt like Drain Soul was more in line with the "feel" of Affliction to me.Comentado por NagasshWould love to see some of the suggestions taken onboard by Blizzard, SE baseline and as close to the WOTLK / Cata incarnation as possible would be stellar - WOTLK / Cata affliction was the affliction I loved, and while I know a lot of people liked the MOP revamp I loathed it - a lot of the design choices in BFA seem to be leaning more in the older direction I loved.

Also really wish they'd return Curse of Exhaustion as a means of providing a slow, happily lose the CD reduction talent on SB to have that as an option and let Destruction have the stun-niche.Comentado por JorgeCharryI hope they add more exciting spell animations to affliction warlocks.Comentado por alayenHow do the different warlock specs compare for farming old content in BFA? Affliction has been really good in Legion, but losing Soul Flame will really slow things down when there's a lot of trash.Comentado por ladynaginiaffliction's weakness was always adds that die quickly. Despite the changes, it's really my favorite spec, and I hope it is viable on BfA launch. With the artifact getting removed, and affliction relying so heavily on the artifact atm, it makes sense that some big changes are in order and a lot of tweaking is done.Comentado por PyorrhoeaCan I just say that every comment before me has been positive and constructive.

Thanks!

Affliction lock was my first spec and it would be good to use it againComentado por 1400571This post was from a user who has deleted their account.Comentado por HalgrimmdkAffliction has been the best solo character in legion, behaving much like the Demonology spec earlier.
It was the go-to-character for all the harder elites and solo achivements - perfect for someone with a lot of free time and limited coordinating skills for group content, like me.
ANY change is not welcomed by me!Comentado por jrosekaMoP had all three specs. Destro was huge in SoO, Demo in ToT and Affliction to start the expansion.Comentado por mccray87Stupid opinions are stupid. This warlock thinks he knows warlock well but he doesn't. He's a fake warlock with stupid opinions. Affliction is really strong on the beta, especially with Rot and Decay talented. If you're having issues with staying alive as affliction on the beta you aren't using your full toolkit.

affliction's weakness was always adds that die quickly. Despite the changes, it's really my favorite spec, and I hope it is viable on BfA launch. With the artifact getting removed, and affliction relying so heavily on the artifact atm, it makes sense that some big changes are in order and a lot of tweaking is done.Would love to see some of the suggestions taken onboard by Blizzard, SE baseline and as close to the WOTLK / Cata incarnation as possible would be stellar - WOTLK / Cata affliction was the affliction I loved, and while I know a lot of people liked the MOP revamp I loathed it - a lot of the design choices in BFA seem to be leaning more in the older direction I loved.

Also really wish they'd return Curse of Exhaustion as a means of providing a slow, happily lose the CD reduction talent on SB to have that as an option and let Destruction have the stun-niche.Comentado por angeleyedGood let's talk more about the warlocks, screw prot paladins! Noone cares about them having talents tey are never going to use!Comentado por ReaperessIt kinda feels like with the Deathbolt, they're steering Affliction to a sort of Necromancer-y thing. Tbh, I felt like Legion affliction was kinda boring. I'm hoping the new build will be more fun. If not, I'll just go back to Destro.Comentado por KikkenassI created my affliction warlock just before the launch of Legion. So I don't have a pre-Legion impression of the spec to really compare to. I do agree that we needed some changes but I just hope that Blizz doesn't try to hack the spec to pieces in an effort to "push" people into other specs because Affliction was OP for so long.

I would really like to see all three classes balanced against one another. This way anyone can choose what ever spec most fits their style.Comentado por Vynillinafter enduring the horrible "drain lock" of legion and being forced by blizzard to play the spec or else change classes, i hope and pray to the blizz gods that affliction is under tuned for all of BFA. mop had aff, wod had destruction, legion had aff. its time to give some love to demonology. all i can say is i am sick and tired of aff being over powered, and this is coming from a warlock main since mop. either way warlock is a dead class for me in bfa; legion ruined it for me. its a shame that blizzard ruins classes like that, not just knowingly but also blatantly.Comentado por XernathFirst thing we should have both - shadow bolt and drain soul as baseline so we wouldnt lose mechanic from draining last targets hp to get soulshard and we could use shadow bolt as filler
second thing - it completely makes NO SENSE to make affliction weak on multi target, this spec should be always better than other specs on multitarget, at least on spread multi targets.
third thing - having drain soul and shadow embrace in different talents row makes no sense. like what the ^&*! would shadow embrace change when someone picks drain soul in first row ?Comentado por MorvangorNo Soul Flame? Seems one can't keep a good thing. Very sad.Comentado por lankybritNo Life Tap? What?

What's my rotation going to be?

Currently Agony, Corruption, Unstable Affliction, Drain Soul.........with Life Tap when mana gets low.Comentado por medahreNo Life Tap? What?

What's my rotation going to be?

Currently Agony, Corruption, Unstable Affliction, Drain Soul.........with Life Tap when mana gets low.

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