Do you remember how Legion started? With a mass invasion of Azeroth, demons being barely beaten back then a botched assault on the Broken Shore which lead to the Alliance and Horde fleeing and their leaders dying.It is a narrative point for good to suffer at the hands of evil.Yes, being the victim in this case is preferable because the victim has nobility and a challenge to overcome in the face of adversity to deveat evil.Just like in MoP. Do you forget MoP ends with all Horde gains gone, the Horde shamed and at the mercy of Varian.To this day Alliance players can proudly display that they are the Conqueror of Orgrimmar while the Horde have no such equivalent.MoP gave the Alliance adversity, but they prevailed. The same looks to happen here.Ultimately, Alliance players can feel proud to fight evil. Horde players can either embrace that cartoonish evil and the inevitable loss, or hang our heads in shame.
Lich Queen much? Use your own troops as fodder just because she knows she can bring them back as more undead. Can that vocal minority of horde players who keep saying Alliance/Horde are equally evil finally shut up? Face it, sometimes you're the bad guy...and that's okay. If they want to live in denial then they are welcome to re-roll alliance. Bunch of cry baby carebears. They bring shame to the Horde, much like Sylvanas is.#SaurfangForWarchief2020#WillSettleForThrallsReturn
Yay! They fixed the Anduin/Saurfang conversation to feel more realistic and have less random insults and name-dropping.
See, this is exactly what I was talking about on page 1. Literally nothing will convince Sylvanas fans that she's anything but a misunderstood hero.
Can't wait to inevitably kill sylvanas, she shouldn't even look Saurfang in the eye, let alone mock him.
I was on the fence about the "Lich Queen" label that has dogged Sylvanas practically since Cataclysm, and more so now that she's been the Warchief. I am not on the fence anymore. She's done the Full Arthas here now. At least one of my Horde characters will be all for this, but the rest will be "WHOA. What the hell am I serving here?" Especially the Highmountain and Nightborne characters I have, who both dealt with genocidal wackos...
Personal belief does not trump general, just because you do something thinking you are right it doesn't simply make it correct or good. By your argument even figures like Sargeras, the Lich King and Illidan at times did nothing wrong ever.A general that is willing to sacrifice their own soldiers is unnaceptable and seen as "bad". There is absolutely no arguing that. Sylvannas is a zealot and her POV is different from what Thrall's horde stood for.Now if you like her and her behavior? All good, but don't try to justify or defend her actions that clearly stand in the opposite end of good in the moral compass that our currecurrent society has established.
As one great Warchief once asked.."What difference is there between you and the Lich King now?"
I could never understand that "survival of her people" argument. No one has threatened the "survival" of the horde, not even of the Forsaken up to that point, except external threats like the Burning Legion. Yes, the Forsaken will fall apart and "die" at some point, but so will all the living eventually. It's called life, which ends with death, and that's been quite normal for every living thing in the universe. She's trying to defy nature in seeking immortality - and that's quite a different thing than "ensuring survival of her people". The Forsaken as such can be seen as an affront to nature, but it's not their fault, they haven't been made undead by choice. I see no problem in letting the Forsaken "live" their lives as other races do, but there's absolutely no point in seeking immortality for them or raise dead (and even kill them for it!) horde/alliance folks to create more of them.Problem is, Sylvanas doesn't act for the survival of her people, which are THE HORDE. She as warchief has an obligation to all horde people. And she doesn't care in the slightest. In my opinion, she doesn't even think of the Forsaken as "her people", because I'm certain a quite big portion of them are NOT interested in existing in their undead state forever. I'm certain a lot of them will want to "die" at some point just like everyone else. But Sylvanas is not interested in what "her people" think. Not the horde as a whole, and not even the Forsaken.There is just one thing that Sylvanas is interested in and that is Sylvanas. She's afraid to die because of what the valkyr showed her when she flung herself from Icecrown Citadel and that's all there is to it. There is no "survival of her people" theme in her thoughts and actions, that's just BS.