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Comentado por Diboah

Este ítem agora tem a chance de cair a primeira vez que o cenário heróico é feito no dia , mesmo que o cenário no modo normal já tenha sido completado. Foi consertado no hotfix desta semana, que pode ser conferido aqui neste link: http://us.battle.net/wow/pt/blog/9687729/53_Hotfixes_May_29-5_29_2013

Comentado por 526539

Baú do gold heroic

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Comentado por 998027

The crap-shoot box for 5.3 Heroic Scenarios.

See Baú Heroico de Tesouros Lotado to see a 5.3 Heroic Scenario box that may not be a crap-shoot box.

Comentado por dieselh

can contein item of level 516 with random stats based on the spec AT THE MOMENT YOU OPEN IT;
like this wand.
in example i used to do hc scenario as blood dk, but switching frost before opening the cache, and i found always dps items
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or just 28 golds

Comentado por Nereknem

What is the probability that the box will contain some item? I hope that it will be much higher than from previous failbags.

Edit: I haven't done any exact statistics, but I was able to get 2 items per week approximately. So the probability isn't that bad.

Comentado por Bilco

I like how it as added into the Database -> Items -> Miscellaneous -> Junk category.

Comentado por 590060

my first had this Omoplatas Fervidas em Cerveja of the wavecrest, (+729 mastery and spirit)

Comentado por arbhatt

Looted one as a Protadin and got this:

Espada Pandarênica Imaculada (of the Bedrock...+421 Mastery, +421 Parry).

Edit: I tried to add a socket to the weapon via Olho do Príncipe Negro and was unable to.

Comentado por ratchet285

May contain an epic item of 516 ilvl, and the chance for getting one does not seem that bad. I got 2 items from 4 bags, a friend of mine got 3 out of 4 but that does not mean much.

~~If you get one of these bags and have them in your inventory, you can change spec to decide, what kind of item you want inside the bag, it is not destined as soon as you get the bag.~~

Warning: Now you get loot for the LOOT Spec you have selected at the moment you open the chest, not your class spec.

The bad thing about the epics coming out of this bag is that they don't have any sockets, which is especially bad when it's about helmets, they don't even have Meta sockets! (so a 489 helmet may even be better than a 516 one, that's plain ridiculous, come on, it's EPIC!)

Now helmets also have Meta- and other sockets! So, good luck, now they are really nice!

Comentado por Darthruneis

These new caches from heroic scenarios - both the weekly quest one and the ones from heroic scenarios - utilize the new loot specialization feature and do not work off of your current specialization (unless you have your loot specialization set to current spec). Confirmed this by opening one as Ret with Holy loot spec selected, and received an intellect ring. Opened another after changing to Ret for my loot spec and received strength shoulders.

Comentado por mufossa

What kind of gearslots drop from this/heroic scenarios? So far as a Prot Spec'd war, in my runs I've received 1x Shield and 2x weapons (all 516 of course). Do i have a chance to receieve shoulders, bracers, trinkets, etc?

Comentado por typ0

Annoying bug that has gotten me twice. If your first random scenario of the day is a normal one, you will NOT recieve a Baú Heroico de Tesouros when you finish your first random heroic scenario that same day, even though you are supposed to. Instead you are rewarded with a normal Baú de Tesouro Maior. Costumer Support has forwarded this to the developers, so hopefully we'll see a hotfix any day now.

For now, I recommend always doing your random heroic scenario first!

Well here's our answer, straight from Ghostcrawler's Twitter:

We wanted heroic scenarios to replace random ones for capable players, not be yet another task to do every day.

Well what do ya know, seems they really can't make up their minds.

Taken from http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7560416371?page=2#22

This has actually been changed today and the hotfix should already be live.

You should be able to get both of these rewards now, as long as you complete one heroic and at least one normal scenario once per day.
You shouldn't have to worry about doing a heroic scenario before you do a normal one, the order doesn't matter anymore.

Comentado por SomeChillGuy

Please, be sure to make sure you're in the loot specialization you need to be in for the loot you want! By default, when you switch specs, and you had your specialization set to "current spec", it will change the loot specialization to whatever you switch into. You can fix this by specifically assigning a loot specialization, with one of the three other options (i.e., frost, blood, unholy) instead of "current spec." This will NOT change when you switch specs.

I happened to end up tanking for the last part of a scenario on my Frost DK, so I switched to Blood spec. I forgot to switch the specialization however, and opened my cache and got a 516 tanking polearm with mastery/parry... I was seriously mad because I only ever dps on my DK, and this happened completely on accident.

Comentado por athika

It´s not a bug that you get the reward Baú de Tesouro Maior instead of Baú Heroico de Tesouros if you complete a normal scenario first.
Source: http://wow.joystiq.com/2013/05/26/dont-lock-yourself-out-of-epic-scenario-rewards/

Comentado por 385666

Question, will you always get something based on your class/spec or is that random also?, tell me my rogue will not get a two handed staff lol

Comentado por VSUReaper

Don't be too surprised if you only get gold out of these - my wife and I have recieved alot of that lately...

Comentado por 260366

As of 02-06 i've done a Heroic Scenario everyday since it came out, so far. i haven't gotten a single item, only gold all the way.
Getting a item for the character seems to be rather low, nearly to the chance of getting a item in a Throne of Thunder "Lfr"

Comentado por AwesomeShaman

On June 2nd I ran a heroic scenario and didn't receive my heroic cache of treasures. I then spent 5-10 minutes writing up a proper support ticket to hopefully be awarded my cache. As soon as I finished the ticket I hearthed back to town and checked my mail, where I found my cache.

Wanted to put this here in case other people experience the same thing to maybe save them some time.

Comentado por Pzypro

For whatever reason I thought these bags would drop lfr 502 items. Read something like that somewhere... was *very* pleasantly surprised when I pulled out a 516 ring today. Going to do these every day now - seems a lot better than LFR and 5mans in terms of loot/valor points efficiency.

I don't understand how are people saying you can do these twice per day? The 1st queue awards the epic bag, all subsequent queses say they will award the blue bag...

edit: reaaaly late edit for the above.... yeah nvm. The challenge mode daily also gives you a bag so that's the 2nd one. Good luck getting that though without a regular group. ^_^ Fortunately I have one now - pretty much 5man raiding.

Comentado por Thrakall

If you make a scenario in normal mode and you receive your reward, then you make a heroic scenario, you will ~~not~~ receive your epic box.
~~You can only receive the chest of your first scenario of the day, regardless of the difficulty of the scenario.~~

Edit: Fixed

Comentado por illiterate

Drop rate has been stealth nerfed since release.

Comentado por NephilimX

If you've gotten a head piece from your random cache and sold it to the vendor thinking "wow, it'd be awesome but y'know... no sockets, screw this", you may want to hop on your item restore. At some point, likely the little hotfix from the previous day, they added sockets to the helms. The Elmos do Esmaga-dúvida I had received a few days prior now had a meta and a blue socket with a 180 str bonus when I happened to mouse over it earlier. So you can now feel a lot better about the helms as a useful item.

edited for a typo because I am just that picky.

Comentado por iamjoe

Some info on this item:

1. This item does not guarantee an epic item. (See Baú Heroico de Tesouros Lotado)

2. Does not contain "extra items", such as profession materials, consumables, or non-combat pets.

3. Has an unknown chance to contain an Item Level 516 epic quality item with a random preset of stats. Similar to the green system, of the Bear, of the Fireflash, etc., based on your class and specialization upon opening the item (trinkets excluded).

4. If an item is not rewarded, you will receive a random amount of gold, less than 100, more than 12.

5. Because of the odd way this item rewards items (by way of a scripted event) Wowhead clients are unable to collect data relating to drop percentages.

6. There is an error in patch 5.3, where you do not receive the Cache immediately upon finishing the scenario. It should arrive in your mail within 20 minutes.

7. /use macros cannot be used on this item because of an exploit where a macro could be used to get multiple loots.

Comentado por Berronaxwins

Also known as - Heroic Cache of 19Gold

Comentado por patrenn

I wondered if someone could confirm that these don't contain trinkets? That's according to the "Contains" section but I was curious if anyone has found otherwise.

Comentado por Pzypro

The drop chance was either nerfed or I had a mini lucky streak when I first started getting these satchels. Haven't gotten anything in the past 10-15 I opened and overall I probably found 5 items out of 25-30. So I'd say a roughly 20% droprate?

The comments here made me realize that loot specialization is now in the game. Awesome revelation.

Really trying/hoping to get a 516(+8) weapon out of these things. Would be a huge upgrade over my 502 which I'm hesitant to upgrade in anticipation of a 516. Since I don't raid this would be the best I can get and would also be the biggest increase to my dps compared to any other gear slot.

Comentado por fendred

Finding that the drop chance is reasonable, running every day on 2 toons I find I get 1-2 drops per week per toon on average. Of course, with the random nature of the drops not all of them will be for the slots you need.
Due to my server being dead, I was not running these often at first, but since have started using OQueue (cross server LFG addon) which has allowed me to find 2 groups every day no problems. Highly recommend if you struggle to pug.

The stats you will see on the drops will be based on a beneficial (but not necessarily optimal!) combination for your spec. The individual item pages will show what types of stats you could end up with.

Really nice if you can't raid to fill those slots that valor can't, but it must be said that compared to the existing ToT LFR pieces I had, the lack of sockets (and related socket bonus) has resulted in these pieces being entirely sidegrades or incredibly minor upgrades.
On the chest I just got today the 516 resulted in literally only 4 more of beneficial stats (as in, +4 str) than the 502. If the itemisation was bad it would not have been worth 'upgrading'. Main reason I do it to be perfectly honest is for the vanity of having a higher ilvl and partially the soloing benefit of the extra stam. Still, feels good man.

Also worth noting is that it does not appear you can get a trinket from this, meaning unless you have access to ToT 10/25 or heroic ToES you will be stuck with a 502 trinket until next patch. But, based on where I'm at, it seems that with valor gear, H Scen gear and upgrades it's entirely possible (and not entirely unreasonable) to reach over 525 ilvl without ever setting foot in a 'real' raid before 5.4.

Finally, you can't add a legendary socket to these weapons either.

Hopefully this answers all your questions about Heroic Scenario drops!
Information sourced from my personal experience as well as a couple of things which have been stated by numerous other posters.

Comentado por Pzypro

Anyone knows exactly what secondary stats fall under which loot specialization for plate users.

I imagine that tanking loot is hit, exp, dodge, parry, mastery
And dps loot is hit, exp, crit, haste, mastery

I need mastery tanking items so I have the tanking loot selected but all my random enchants keep ending up with dodge and parry =\. Is mastery a dps only stat or I'm just very unlucky.

Comentado por 799845

I speculate that the "random enchantment" on the items may not be that random.

I've been doing a lot of H Scenarios since release. I've gotten about 8-10 pieces of agi leather gear as "Windwalker" Monk loot spec. Every single one has been Hit/Expertise. That can't be RNG, can it? Anyone have conflicting information? Maybe this is a glitch for WW Monks?

Edit: Changed to BrM, already got two pieces that aren't Hit/Exp... so if anyone else has this issue, just change to BrM and hope you don't get Dodge or something, I guess.

Edit 2: Please don't downvote unless you actually know what I'm saying isn't true, in which case I'd like a response, not a downvote. This could very well be a glitch for the WW loot spec enchantment table.

Edit 3: Yes, it CAN be RNG potentially, but it's so unlikely that I'm concerned it's a bug: Can get any of Hit, Exp, Haste, Mastery, Crit for WW. Pick two of these and you get 11 combos. So the probability of getting 10 of Hit/Exp combo in a row is 3.855E-11, or 0.00000000003855, which is 0.000000003855%. Cough.

Comentado por yuyang0224

To get this is quite like to win a lottery.

Comentado por Telum

In the 9.0.5 patch I was able to get the quest, Heroic Deeds, from party sync.
You're other account or player you are party sync with needs to be level 50+ to queue up for the heroic scenario.

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