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Comentado por lidhryn

Quando plantadas podem, na colheita, dar: Flor-de-seda ou Folha de Chá Verde ou Flor-de-seda ou Papoula-da-chuva ou Chapéu dos Tolos ou Lírio-das-neves ou Lótus Dourado - Lembrando que Lótus Dourado é rara e difícil de vir.

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Comentado por regma

Humm. I wonder if there's any relations to the Enigma Berry from Pokemon?

Comentado por Voxxel

Planting 100 pieces of this seed brought me the results below.

Amount distribution of germinated herbs / (harvested pieces):

Flor-de-seda: 19 / (56)
Folha de Chá Verde: 17 / (58)
Papoula-da-chuva: 23 / (78)
Chapéu dos Tolos: 19 / (60)
Lírio-das-neves: 18 / (64)
Lótus Dourado: 4 / (4)

They're kinda balanced except the Lotus.

UPDATE: With the Patch 5.1, the amount of Lótus Dourado you can buy for Espírito da Harmonia at the Pandaria capitals is reduced to 2 (was 3). In addition to that, the chance that Semente Enigma can germinate into Lótus Dourado has been increased slightly, making it more efficient to farm through Semente Enigma.

Comentado por dddmaster

do they require herbalism to be picked up?

Comentado por raiyana

Harvesting these seeds can also net you living spirits( the herbalists' "health potion")

Comentado por Azrile

You are much better off planting the songbell seeds and buying 2 golden lotus for 1 spirit of Harmony. Based on at least my servers economy, nothing else comes close to that price. WIth a 16 plot farm, you can get 3.2 golden lotus every day. (about 1k value on my server)(##RESPBREAK##)12##DELIM##Sas148##DELIM##

Comentado por pepeu

Semente de Campainha gives you Mote da Harmonia
Semente de Cacto Cortavento gives you Tecido de Lã do Vento
Semente de Rapteira gives you Couro Brumaculado or Pelego Magnífico
Semente Enigma gives you Flor-de-seda / Folha de Chá Verde / Flor-de-seda / Papoula-da-chuva / Chapéu dos Tolos / Lírio-das-neves / Lótus Dourado
Semente de Raiz-de-cobra gives you Minério de Ferro Fantasma and sometimes Minério de Trílio Negro/Minério de Trílio Branco/Kyparita
Semente de Bulbo do Mago gives you some Pó espiritual or Essência Misteriosa

EDIT: Added Magnificent Hide and changed so Golden Lotus isn't that rare anymore.

Comentado por 672427

Here is all seeds by Mercador Moncampo

Rep with Os Lavradores	Seeds	U get	Rare chance
Friendly	Sementes de Repolho Verde	5x Repolho Verde	1-3 Sementes de Repolho Verde
Friendly	Sementes de Cenoura Mordelícia	5x Cenoura Mordelícia	1-3 Sementes de Cenoura Mordelícia
Friendly	Sementes de Cebolinha	5x Cebolinhas	1-3 Sementes de Cebolinha
Friendly	Sementes de Abóbora Mogu	5x Abóbora Mogu	1-3 Sementes de Abóbora Mogu
Friendly	Sementes de Alho-poró de Florada Vermelha	5x Alho-poró de Florada Vermelha	1-3 Sementes de Alho-poró de Florada Vermelha
Friendly	Sementes de Nabo Rosa	5x Nabo Rosa	1-3 Sementes de Nabo Rosa
Friendly	Sementes de Nabo Branco	5x Nabo Branco	1-3 Sementes de Nabo Branco
Friendly	Sementes de Abóbora Jade	5x Abóbora Jade	1-3 Sementes de Abóbora Jade
Friendly	Sementes de Uvas-de-bruxa	5x Uvas-de-bruxa	1-3 Sementes de Uvas-de-bruxa
Friendly	Sementes de Melão Listrado	5x Melão Listrado	1-3 Sementes de Melão Listrado
Honored	Broto de Flor de Outono	Árvore de Flor de Outono
Revered	Broto de Flor da Primavera	Árvore de Flor da Primavera
Revered	Semente Enigma	2-5 Random Panda Herbs	Lótus Dourado
Revered	Semente de Bulbo do Mago	2-5 Pó espiritual	Essência Misteriosa
Revered	Semente de Rapteira	1-2 Couro Brumaculado	Intestinos Cheios
Revered	Semente de Raiz-de-cobra	2-4 Minério de Ferro Fantasma	Minério de Trílio Branco Minério de Trílio Negro Kyparita
Revered	Semente de Cacto Cortavento	1-6 Tecido de Lã do Vento
Revered	Semente de Campainha	Mote da Harmonia
Exalted	Broto de Flor de Inverno	Árvore de Flor de Inverno

You can always ask Be Bum, o Ébrio "Hey Jogu, what's the word on tomorrow's crops?" and if you plant what he says you get 7 crop instead of 5.

Comentado por Trogthor

Ever since 5.1, I'm seeing greatly improved "drop rates" for golden lotus with these seeds. I've planted them three days in a row now and gethered three, two and four golden lotus respectively. If you're after golden lotus, it seems these seeds are your best bet again, especially now that the spirit of harmony trade-in has been nerfed to two.

Comentado por 708773

What i like about planting Enigma Seeds are the LIFE spirit http://www.wowhead.com/search?q=life+spirit

---- they are better than a potion anyday

mojo

Comentado por 1049090

One thing that changed in Patch 5.1 was the amount of Golden Lotus sold by the Spirit of Harmony vendors, being reduced from 3 to 2 per Spirit of Harmony.

The other change is the increased drop rate of Golden Lotus from Enigma Seeds. Before Patch 5.1, Golden Lotus had a fairly low drop rate, making it more efficient to farm through the Spirit of Harmony Vendors and Songbell Seeds.

After the reduction in the amount you get when trading in Spirit of Harmony and the increased drop rate of Golden Lotus from Enigma Seeds it is now more efficient to plant Enigma Seeds!

One other small change you may not have noticed in Patch 5.1 notes is the Growing buff that tells you how long your crops need to grow before they are ready for harvesting.

Taken from mmo-champion. Seems like these are now one of the better methods of farming Golden Lotus. :)

Comentado por blatterjr

I've done some additional sampling for the enigma seed yield which encompasses the Golden Lotus increase:

Enigma Seed Farming

Control
Characters Farming = 5
Patches in Each Plot = 16
Days of Collection = 15

Total Harvests = 1200
----

Yield
Green Leaf Tea - 211 (17.6%)
Silkweed - 224 (18.7%)
Rain Poppy - 231 (19.3%)
Snow Lily- 201 (16.7%)
Fool's Cap - 186 (15.5%)
Golden Lotus - 147 (12.2%)

Golden Lotus additional drops 9 (0.008%)

Spirits
Life Spirit - 414 (34.5%)
Water Spirit - 122 (10.1%)
----

Note: Water Spirits only drop for classes with mana; I had (3) mana classes farming.
Note: The Bountiful bags guild perk did not affect farm plot yield.
Note: The lotus drop rate was increase 2-days into this sampling.

Comentado por pmakaro

In addition to the increased chance of Lótus Dourado from the Semente Enigma that you sow on your farm since 5.1. The regular herbs grown also benefit from the 5.1 changes. Specifically that all Folha de Chá Verde, Papoula-da-chuva, Flor-de-seda, Flor-de-seda, Lírio-das-neves, and Chapéu dos Tolos plants have a chance to proc a Lótus Dourado.

Comentado por Bearsome

Just to clarify that it IS better to plant Semente de Campainha than
Semente Enigma as Blatterjr a few posts above me stated - Just created a new account so I´m able to post comments but for some perticular reason I can´t "respond" on others comments, so making a fresh one here with his quote:

Enigma Seed Farming

Control
Characters Farming = 5
Patches in Each Plot = 16
Days of Collection = 15

Total Harvests = 1200
----

Yield
Green Leaf Tea - 211 (17.6%)
Silkweed - 224 (18.7%)
Rain Poppy - 231 (19.3%)
Snow Lily- 201 (16.7%)
Fool's Cap - 186 (15.5%)
Golden Lotus - 147 (12.2%)

Golden Lotus additional drops 9 (0.008%)

____________________________________

This means he planted 1200 Semente Enigma´s and only got 156 Lótus Dourado

If he would of planted 1200 Semente de Campainha he would of got 1200 Mote da Harmonia wich means he would of gotten 120x Espírito da Harmonia. You buy 2x Golden lotuses for 1 spirit wich means 240 Lótus Dourado.

Simply put:
Plant 1200xSemente Enigma and you get around 150x Lótus Dourado (If your unlucky you get abit less if your lucky you get abit more.

Plant 1200x Semente de Campainha and you CERTAINLY (Always) get 240x Lótus Dourado

Comentado por 885261

I have planted Enigma Seeds on 12 days now:
192 patches --> 50 Golden Lotus --> 26%
So I am either very lucky, or the yield has been tweaked again.

Comentado por Luneward

To the below commenter: I don't think the yield rate was tweaked again. I haven't noticed any noticeable change since I started planting herb gardens (since a week or so after 5.1 - between 5 and 7 characters per day). That being said, the numbers do seem extremely low given my observations on my daily yields.

I'm going to have to run a little data collection to verify, but I'm guessing actual yield rate is between 20-25% (You need 20% to break even with motes). I usually see around 3 lotus per garden; sometimes a little less, at least two characters per day tend between four and seven. Only on one occasion I can think of have I seen no lotus at all in a character's garden.

So far it is only anecdotal data, and I'll try to start running some stats on it to verify.

Comentado por 739701

Ok, so the yield numbers posted here never seemed quite right for me so I collected my own data and got the following:

Total characters: 3
Plots/character: 16
Days/plot: 5

3 * 16 * 15 = 240 total harvests

Total herbs: 469
Total lotus: 83

Avg herb/plot: 1.95
Avg lotus/plot: 0.35

Notes about my collection:
- I have the bountiful bags guild perk (though previous comments indicate this does not matter)
- I never got less than 2 herbs when harvesting an herb plot
- I did not separate bonus lotuses gathered from herb plots vs. actual lotus plots

Comentado por Luneward

For more confirmation, here are the yield numbers I have been tracking over the past two weeks. Note that yields of golden lotus and standard herbs seem to have not been affected by patch 5.2. I didn't attempt to track the yield of the normal herbs since my intent was merely to determine golden lotus spawn rate.

Total number of plots: 920
Golden Lotus Plots: 273
Normal Plots: 647

Golden Lotus rate: 29.7%
With this size of sample, the error rate is +/- 3%. The last day or two had fairly high rates, so I'm guessing it is closer to 27-28% overall rate. I did not include the extra golden lotus from the normal herbs in this, but I'm guessing it is somewhere from 2-4% droprate on these (probably close to what you would get from normal herbing)

Just an an interesting side breakdown on the frequency of lotus per garden out of 57 herb gardens:
0 lotus: None
1 lotus: 4 (7%)
2 lotus: 2 (3.5%)
3 lotus: 9 (15.8%)
4 lotus: 13 (22.8%)
5 lotus: 14 (24.6%)
6 lotus: 6 (10.5%)
7 lotus: 3 (5.3%)
8 lotus: 3 (5.3%)
9 lotus: 3 (5.3%)

So from my sample, there was a 63% chance of getting 3, 4, or 5 lotus, and about a 10.5% chance of getting less than three.

Basically in summation: You will get close to half again the yield of golden lotus than if you would have just planted songbells.

Comentado por 542059

Updated for 5.2

Most of us want to know (like me at start) a little bit the drop rate when you plant some of those seed in your farm, I will try to farm those seed for few month to make an accurate post by the time.

After 160 Semente Enigma (4 Saco de Sementes Enigma) and 10 days, see what I gathered,

A total of 435 herb have been collected from 160 seed for an average of 2,72 herb per seed (March 26th)

Folha de Chá Verde = 73 or 16,78% of overall
Flor-de-seda = 47 or 10,81% of overall
Papoula-da-chuva = 88 or 20,23% of overall
Lírio-das-neves = 91 or 20,92% of overall
Chapéu dos Tolos = 84 or 19,31% of overall
Lótus Dourado = 52 or 11,95% of overall

More data in 10 days...

Comentado por SomeDruid

At first I thought I was going insane, BUT you can (Like all other MoP herb nodes) pick up a Golden Lotus from an Enigma Seed that has turned into something else other then Golden Lotus. (Such as Fool's Cap or Green Tea Leaf)

Comentado por Saucery

By far the best seed to be planting at your farm
and here's a video guide explaining why.
http://youtu.be/dJzLWdM6h1E

Comentado por nydas3k

got 8x Lótus Dourado, lol!

http://i.imgur.com/Y6HudQ5.jpg

Comentado por dzur

its wierd. i m planting this with 4 of my 90s and drop rate is like this from 16 tiles (also including the extra lotus from picking up another herb):

druid (herbalist-alchemy) : 4-6
paladin (miner-jc) : 3-5
shaman (lw -skinner) : 3-4
and here comes the hunter
hunter (engineer- leveling bs atm) : 6-7! very rarely 5 and never gone below

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