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Comentado por Omnicrom

Appears to be a secondary crafting material for Inscription, similar to how Tailors use both regular and enchanted cloth when making items. As it stands these scrolls as of now are used for the upgradable Inscription weapon and off-hand. If this is the case and it is made by inscription as the current build says it is then the main trouble with making the upgraded staves and fans will probably be the Spirits of Harmony.

This is still very preliminary though, and the final use for and acquisition of this scroll and the upgradable weapons is still far off

EDIT: Beta Build 15781 has added in the ability to create the Scroll of Wisdom, the item that was the previously unknown ingredient used for creating Inscription's upgradable Weapons, Off-hands, and Darkmoon cards. As it stands now it's a cross between Inscription Research and Rare Cloth crafting. Like Inscription Research it is inexpensive and provides the designs for new glyphs and like Cloth crafting it's on a daily timer.

Comentado por Bubbelboy

Scribes do not have to make the choice to learn a new recepy vs make a DMF card or staff/Off-hand. The spell makes you learn a new recepy, and as a useful by-product you get the scroll of wisdom. That one is BoP, and the scribe can use it to make DMF cards or a staff/Off-hand

Comentado por shane86

Can you only make one of these per day?

Comentado por 865166

What quests are you referring to that give these as a reward>?

Comentado por Boshnak

Here is a list of materials required for the Inscription weekly quests. Thought it might be nice to have a consolidated list, so you can keep mats in your bag.

A Thing of Beauty:
10 Light Parchment
5 Spirit of Harmony
5 Starlight Ink

A Tribute to the Dead:
6 Spirit of Harmony
Starlight Ink

Incarnadine Ink:
5 Incarnadine Ink

Portrait of a Lady:
5 Spirit of Harmony
6 Starlight Ink

Set in Jade:
4 Spirit of Harmony
10 Starlight Ink

Staves for Tian Monastery:
16 Ink of Dreams
4 Spirit of Harmony
6 Rain Poppy

Comentado por 911229

k i cked my quest for inscription and i only have forged docs how do i pick up the quests

Comentado por asaphelps

These can also be looted from Guo-lai chests in the Guo-lai halls. I'm a 600 scribe and got one. I did not get any when I had no inscription.

Comentado por Chibchub123

After leveling my scribe up a bit, I'm pretty disappointed with the rate at which you get these Scrolls. 4-6 spirits of harmony is ridiculous. It should have been one spirit, maybe two max I feel. They have made it necessary to play your alts TOO much. If your scribe is not your main character, you won't come across as many spirits of harmony so it's just one scroll a day. If you are looking to make the staves then you are probably saving your spirits anyway... I am disappoint.

What they should have done was add these motes into mining/herbing nodes (possibly from skinning too at a much smaller chance). I've seen people say that wouldn't make sense because "gatherers don't use them." Sure they do! They can turn them into MORE gathering mats, and most of us have one crafting one gathering anyway.

Comentado por psyclonn

if other people want to have scribes make them darkmoon cards; whats the usual going price for the scroll. DMCs go for 1-4k each (pandaria level ones), and i had someone wanting to pay 300g for each scroll. which i thought was kinda shady. just trying to see what the general consensus is on other servers. :D kthxbai

Comentado por 987495

This comment is not about the scroll creation, but the side-effect of learning a new Glyph recipe. I seem to be stuck one short of learning all of the recipes. I still need Glyph of Supernova. For the last 10 days, I have made the Scroll without learning anything. I guess I will keep trying.

Comentado por 832107

The cost of making a 476 staff is 20 Scrolls of Wisdom (SoW) or 20 days. You might get lucky to get a scroll from the scenario chests, but I've yet to win one from anything and had to make all of mine.

By comparison, for instance, a BS can make a 476 item every 5 days because you can grow 16 motes per day on your farm and the Living Steel bars can be bought anytime.

A scribe has no such luxury, so if you have multiple toons and want at least one caster BoA and one AGI BoA (for tanks, like monks, or for dps toons) then you're looking at basically 40 days of SoWs to make your own staffs before you can make anything for profit. In that time, if your other toons are 90s, you could have acquired a 476 or higher staff in heroics/raids/Scenarios/LFR.

It seems that scribes get to make something that is useful and a BoA, but it takes so long to make it due to SoW CD, that it's useless. Plus, you have to choose to make DMF cards or staffs, one at the cost of the other.

Blizz screwed the pooch on scribes again.

As for the comments about making life easier for new scribes, my toon is still doing minor and northrend research along with making a SoW each day. As far as I can tell, this has not made life easier for a scribe. You're still learning glyphs each day the same as before.

Comentado por jahf

To help with looking up which glyphs are from what types of research, I made this This Google Spreadsheet.

If a glyph is trainable (ie, from a trainer) it will NOT be listed
I use the sheet to track my progress on learning various glyphs
It will also show you which research type is required
"m"inor and "M"ajor types are noted

(reminder: you now can learn Northrend glyphs from Scrolls of Wisdom ... and you no longer need Book of Glyph Mastery unless you want to pay to speed up your learning process)

The sheet is open for all to read. Anyone can leave a comment on the last page. If you want to copy the page to your own to track your glyph learning progress, feel free.

If useful please uprate here or feel free to leave a comment in the file.

Comentado por 1110076

Here is a question I can not find answered anywhere. As an inscriptionist, what should I charge to use these mats? I mean, if I make you an item using all of your inks, and the item requires me to use one of my scrolls of wisdom, how much should I charge?

Comentado por darcobi

Got my hopes up that this would possibly teach me a glyph that came out in 5.4, but it does not. :(

Comentado por onad

Anybody still making these daily? My server is pretty busy, so I've had success up until recently moving Darkmoon Cards. However, the prices on those have begun to plummet substantially....I saw a card on the AH recently with a price of 79G. Hardly worth the cost to make.

Perhaps making the off-hand is a better investment instead of Darkmoon Cards? Not really sure where to go from here with this item. Wish they would have given scribes something new to do with these in the recent patch.

Comentado por Boxofrogs

I only recently started playing WoW again since WotLK, and rejoined after the Timeless Isle expansion. I now have 52 of these scrolls sat in my bank that I have crafted as way of learning the new recipes. Before I had managed to make the 20 scrolls required for the BoA weapons (Let alone all the other mats needed including Spirits of Harmony), I had already bought the epic weapons for my characters from the Timeless Isle; negating one of the uses of the scrolls. Which leaves me with the one option of using them to make the DMF cards, which given the cost of 10 Starlight Ink, makes the final product (Once all the random chances from 32 cards for 4 Card-Sets have created 8 matches) more or less a waste of time & money; as I would be more inclined to use those Starlight Inks to craft the shoulder enchants which don't require any luck of the draw and are viable to sell for a feasible profit.

The average AH price for the most popular shoulder enchants on my server (QT) is ~190g.

The average price for Starlight Ink is ~ 55g

So, one shoulder enchant stands to earn ~ 25g profit. Which is better than a kick in the teeth, I suppose.

However, even if I managed to get 8 DMF cards (The only remaining viable use for the scrolls) of the same school consecutively, I would have used 80 Starlight ink (~4400g worth). So I would need to sell the DMF trinket for that price, just so as not to make a loss. And that would also include giving my 8 Scroll of Wisdom used in the crafting away for nothing. Highly implausible that I would be able to sell for that price, inconceivable that I could make any money from the Scrolls.

All in all I have found absolutely nothing useful to do with these Scrolls and they might as well not be wasting space in my bank.

I also have many other characters and professions, including a tailor which I will use as an example. And I found that I was able to create two types of cloth: One which crafts items of level 522 quality and the other which crafts 553 items. This seems utterly imbalanced that one profession should access to crafted products that are valued and sought for, even after the Timeless Isle patch, whereas another is basically defunct; especially since most people now own all their class's glyphs and the scribe's primary function is also virtually obsolete.

Before, people used to have to grind to exalted to get their shoulder enchants. Now, I feel as though I'm the one doing all the pointless grinding to facilitate the enchants for them, with paltry returns.

Sorry for mithering, but it needed to be said.

Comentado por fujislider

What we need is like what LW has. Convert 2 Pelego Magnífico into a Pelego Magnífico Endurecido used to craft some ilvl 553 item.

Comentado por WyzrdX

I am hoping that with WoD my scribe will find some use. As it stands I no longer want to do anything on my scribe. I made these religiously to learn glyphs and now that I have no need for them I stopped doing anything. It seems Blizzard does not like the scribe prof anymore as they took our only real money maker (glyphs) away. Yes we can still make glyphs but at least we got paid for our work even if the cost was low for a particular glyph.

Before the permanent learning of glyphs I could make 20 of a particular glyph and sell all in a day or 2. Now I am lucky to sell 3 or 4 in the same time period since most people are only buying for alts. If you are on a low pop server, you likely will not make any money for your time. If my scribe wasn't my alt tank I would not even get on except to make the shoulder enchants.

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