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Comentado por 940869

My heart did a little flutter when I read the trink's "New" properties.

Comentado por moblinman

Ladies and gentlemen, the savior of engineering has arrived, and damn if the little guy isn't cute too :p

Comentado por Furydeath

Dragonling hit's for 40 to 85 damage. That's IF it hit's mainly just get's dodged and misses a lot.

Comentado por Kevlan

Something key to take note of - This is a trinket that's usable by ANYONE, not just engineers. So far, it's looking like a great way to make a profit on the way to 600 engineering!

Seriously, this will be a must-have for almost anyone. It's relatively cheap to make (28 ores + 12 cloth) and gives 1800 secondary stat points with your choice of gears. No "on use" no "chance on xxx", just simple stats all the time.

Comentado por 368785

Should read "manufacture" not "summon".

Comentado por Zumzum

Tried it on lvl 85 dummy. The Dragonling does several attacks and casts before disappearing, doing around 15k each time he pops : pretty bad. Seems to have something like 1min/1min15 Cd.

Comentado por 93633

The real question is:

Is the pattern a drop or is it bought somewhere ?

Comentado por Blankadin

A full list of the MoP Cogwheels:

Flashing Tinker's Gear 600 Parry Rating
Fractured Tinker's Gear 600 Mastery Rating
Precise Tinker's Gear 600 Expertise Rating
Quick Tinker's Gear 600 Haste Rating
Rigid Tinker's Gear 600 Hit Rating
Smooth Tinker's Gear 600 Critical Strike Rating
Sparkling Tinker's Gear 600 Spirit
Subtle Tinker's Gear 600 Dodge Rating

Comentado por 38749

I can't convince anyone that non-engineers can use this. ::sigh::

Comentado por Cyrillia

This thing is AMAZING, saw it on the AH while price checking Ghost Iron and searched it here on WoWHead to see that cogwheels are usable by non-engineers! Grabbed one of these for 500g and a mastery and hit cog for 50g each! A deal on day 2 of the expansion! Just need to find someone with the recipe for the expertise cog and my tank with have an awesome trink til 90 at least.

Comentado por Cmoney

For anyone who was wondering and too lazy to do the math: Base mats are 14 ghost iron bars (20 including cogwheels) and 12 windwool cloth

Comentado por brudarek

Doesn't really seem to make sense that this would be usable by non-engineers... ?

Comentado por migit128

If we have a haste cogwheel gem in this trinket, does that mean engineers cannot put a haste cogwheel in our engineering helm? If this is the case I feel like engineers are getting screwed by blizzard on this one...

Comentado por 823154

Its worth knowing, as I was a little confused, that on the cogwheel "gems" it says they're only usable by Engineers, but even if you're not you can still buy them and socket them for the effect.

Comentado por LafinJack

Here's how much damage it did for me. I'm a level 87 paladin with mostly 430 blues, attacking the level 85 target dummy.

The first thing the dragon usually does is cast lighting breath, which did ~6k. Then it began melee attacks, doing about ~1k each, 6-7 times. Then it did another lightning breath before disappearing. It sometimes crits, which does double damage. It triggers about once a minute and lasts about 20 seconds, so there's about 40 seconds of dragon downtime.

Just checked again at 90 with 450/463 tanking blues and a couple epics, and its damage hasn't changed. Too bad, but not really unexpected.

Comentado por Grimstone

A good source of income for engineers I guess.

First for the trinket (if the competition on your server allows for profit) since every lvl87 char would want to buy it (even healers) to boost their ilvl for heroics.

And the cogwheels are useable by every profession you can make some money there too. For example they go for 150g on my server while the mats are cheap with 50g.

Comentado por 984314

A quick way to make money with these is to go into Pandaria and alternate between the zones advertising in /1 (Not constantly, but every now and again) with "Selling Ghost Iron Dragonling (Level 87 ILvL 450 Trinket with 3 cogwheels of your choice 400g) I've made 25k in 2 days so far from the vast amount of people levelling wanting these.

Edit.
Just to end this little argument I thought I would say that, at the time I was selling these, the AH prices were crashing hard on Outland EU (Goldfarmers) So selling the ore on its own would have only gotten me 85 gold per stack and take several hours to sell due to being constantly undercut. Selling the Trinkets was WELL worth it and nothing you guys can say suggesting otherwise is folly and unnecessary.

Comentado por Gnomegurl

Just found out it cannot be used with the engineering goggles because it puts you over the cogwheel limit.

Comentado por Toroq

This trinket is actually potentially more powerful for non-engineers than engineers. An engineer with the new goggles would use 5 cogwheels and a non-engineer would use 3. A healer, for example, doesn't even have 5 different cogwheels to benefit from.

This is a complete non-issue of course, since nothing is forcing you to use both items. It's just an observation.

Comentado por Gawwad

Raw Materials:
28 x Minério de Ferro Fantasma or 14 x Barra de Ferro Fantasma
12 x Tecido de Lã do Vento

Comentado por Cleptor

A word of advice:

The dragonling's Sopro Elétrico does a cone of damage to anything in its path, including neutral NPCs that just happened to walk by and inevitably get dragged into your fight. Once the dragonling has spawned it won't care if your fight involves , Bagata, Cegar or any other form of crowd control, it will happily electrocute them all.

Also Furtividade or will no longer get you out of harms way after a fight because the dragonling will just sit there and happily draw the full attention of anything that comes along willing to finish you off. Remember how handy Sumir or Invisibilidade used come in when you were running low on health? Well forget about that because this critter will stay out in plain sight until it despawns and there's nothing you can do about it.

Don't get me wrong now I'm not trying to spoil the fun for anyone, but if you equip this trinket you will inevitably have an occasional extra trip from the cemetery back to your corpse. In other words:

Using this thing will get you killed once in a while. Welcome to engineering.

After five levels of slapping around countless unnecessary adds and a couple of extra deaths or near deaths I happily got rid of this annoying piece of equipment on the first chance I got and I'm not missing it at all!

Comentado por 950815

It seems that the Lightning Breath is Forked Lightning rather than Chain Lightning.

Comentado por lpfanatic54669

Just wanted to give a warning to any Healers who are Engineers. If you plan on making the helm and the trinket for leveling from 87 or higher, please be aware that due to the unique-equipped cogs, one of your cog sockets will be left blank or filled with either Expertise, Hit, Parry, or Dodge, as there are only 4 truly useful stats for healers to use amongst the cogs. I didn't realize this before I had made both so unfortunately, after I filled in the slots with Spirit, Haste, Crit, and Mastery, I was left with slot open. Anyways, hope this helps! Happy leveling and questing to everyone!

Comentado por Joseywhales

The dragonling that is summoned appears to take damage, including aoe. It also appears to be immune to healing. I could not for the life of me figure out why I kept seeing "Immune" pop up when fighting a wide variety of mobs, then I started paying attention and it was when my bloodworms would explode and do the aoe heal and the dragonling was out.

Comentado por 776376

the only crafted item that doesnt require bop mats that makes ethereal shards, and for quite often varying on server, buying the mats for each is less than the cost of one shard. these are the stormforged shoulders of MOP

Comentado por Sacridfire

Be careful when using this with a Disc Priest or Mistweaver Monk in the group as it will absorb Atonement and Eminence heals even when there are other targets that require healing.

Comentado por Linens

Welcome back buddy to MoP ;)

Comentado por smackthekids

I'm seriously have SUCH A HARD TIME finding something to replace this Trinket with. I know based purely on iLvl theres so many options out there... but even with the Epic Shado-Pan trinket, and all the Heroic Dungeon trinkets, NOTHING seems to give as much static Def/Exp/Hit as this does. (Prot Warrior btw - without Exp/Hit i make no rage, meaning no defensive cooldowns, meaning i dont live long in a high damage Raid Fight).

ANY suggestions ! Would be eternally grateful!

Comentado por Rhadegund

Ensure you don't have this bad boy equipped if you are soloing Tempest Keep, the proc allows Kael to mind control you which causes Kael to despawn/reset when the dragonling proc finishes.

Comentado por Nuinbot

Just a note to rogues: Don't bother with this trinket if you value your ability to stealth. This trinket pet (and any other like it) is a dead giveaway to your location. It also has the tendency to pull other mobs, especially ranged/casters if it gets hit first while you are in combat.

Comentado por heartcrash

absolutely despised questing with this as a rogue. the dragonling agro'd so many mobs all the time. the trinket was worth it for the stats that the cogwheels provided, but the dragonling was an irritation to put up with.

Comentado por Blakmane

Unfortunately I'm keeping it for the cogwheel stats... but yeah this item is a complete garbage for rogues that value their stealth skill... which I think is a 100% of us. Blizz seriously.. the pet proc of this item is a piece of %^&*. It barely does damage and it's like having a hunter's mark on your head once it spanws... ANYONE CAN SEE THE DAMN DRAGON!... even if you're stealthed. Is like: Hey you, Rogue here! AoE the crap out of this area in specific.

Blizzard.. please either hotfix it so it mimics player's stealth too or make it invisible for other players altogether... seriously.

This item must have been made by the idiot who created quests with NPCs that follow you and agro all the crap on their way.
That developer obviously though this would be fun for players too...

Comentado por Cyynric

I have one of these on my Blood DK engineer, and I haven't had any problems with it pulling too much. I haven't tried it out in Frost as DPS yet, though.

Comentado por 1089892

I would NOT recommend this to rogues who are leveling. The dragon follows and will pull mobs while you are in stealth.

Comentado por 109026

Having one of these equipped and a second one of these in your bag and not equipped (or bound to you) will raise your iLVL if your other trinkets are below 450. Handy if your a couple of points off getting into LFR on a fresh 90 for example.

Comentado por monteverdi

It should be noted that this trinket proves to be invaluable for many classes in challenge modes, due to the fact that gem sockets (and, by extension, cogwheel sockets) are not affected in any way by item scaling. Even though this little guy is only ilevel 450, it gives more bang for it's buck that most endgame trinkets.

Comentado por 1107695

Three cogwheel sockets, a little helper who spawns often and does a little damage and even temporarily tanks now and then. Sounds great, right? Well, it is until you're doing anything with adds in the area. The dragonling's attack loves to pull nearby mobs, and when it's out fluttering behind you, it also loves to aggro.

I've unequipped it several times when I am trying to take on mobs one at a time, losing the stat boost in favor of not getting multiple mobs on me. I am currently raising my rep with Shado-Pan and Shieldwall trying to get a new trinket asap.

Comentado por Malific

==Edit==
With the release of Timeless Isle, my cash flow has decreased significantly. I'm pretty sure it's because Timeless isle is such a huge time sink and people are grinding out tokens rather than leveling alts now, hopefully this will increase as people go back to working on alts, but timeless trinket tokens, while not useful for leveling, may be having people skip out on spending money on dragonlings while they push for 90.
==Edit==

Currently I'm making between 7k and 10k a week on the AH as an Engineer/Miner and I don't sell anything I mine.
Read below and I'll explain how and why... I'm probably going to regret posting this as people are sure to move in on my market now.

In MoP, for engineers, the Dragonete de Ferro Fantasma and it's Gears have finally made us a viable money making profession. The problem is it only makes it viable for 1-2 engineers per faction per server (At least via the AH).

Why people need them:
This trinket is usable at level 87, and with the +600 to 3 secondary stats makes it pretty much THE best trinket until you get into the ilvl 500+ epics. It's useful to every player in the game and binds on equip, meaning every alt needs one of their own, and the gears to go with it. Stealthers however need not apply due to the dragonling proc.

The problem with selling them:
As was leveling I knew about these but couldn't make them yet so I was constantly looking on the AH to get one and gears for it. What I found was that most of the time these were NEVER on the AH in my server. When they were on the AH there were either no gears, or gears that were useless to me. The point being. If the gears people need aren't available they will NOT drop the 200-500 gold these things sell for. Who wants a trinket that just procs a dragonling?

Solution and path to massive money:
If you want to sell Dragonete de Ferro Fantasmas then you need to put up the gears as well, ALL the gears. If you put up 1 dragonling you need 1 of each of the 8 gears that can be slotted into it. This way people always see the gears they need. Best results come from having a large, constant supply. Anytime something sells, after you get your money from the mailbox the first thing you should do is replace it on the AH.

It takes 30 Barra de Ferro Fantasma and 12 Tecido de Lã do Vento to make a full "set" of dragonling and gears. As a miner the hardest part for me is maintaining enough windwool to keep up with the demand. I've even had to resort to buying stacks of windwool with Espírito da Harmonia from Danky(Krystel for Alliance).

As of right now, anytime you go on the AH for my server, you'll find my auctions.

6 Dragonete de Ferro Fantasma
4 Equipamento do Faz-tudo Faiscante - Usually healer only so it doesn't sell as often.
4 Equipamento do Faz-tudo Sutil - Same reason as above but for tanks.
4 Equipamento do Faz-tudo Brilhante - Tanking again.
6 Equipamento do Faz-tudo Fraturado - The rest are DPS.
6 Equipamento do Faz-tudo Preciso
6 Equipamento do Faz-tudo Rápido
6 Equipamento do Faz-tudo Rígido
6 Equipamento do Faz-tudo Suave

I started out just doing 2 Dragonete de Ferro Fantasma, but would often log in to find they had all sold overnight, so I increased to 4. This worked well, but Tuesdays would often clean me out again (raid resets), so I upped it to 6, from here I've always had at least one still on the AH after I logged in.

Some days you won't sell anything at all. Some days you'll come in to 30+ mails full of gold.

I set a "decent" price and leave it. I don't worry about being undercut because as of yet I have no real competition. Most of the time my auctions are the only ones on the AH, at times someone under cuts me, but it's usually only 1-2 dragonlings and no gears, or a couple random gears. In either case, I still make money selling gears to a person that bought the other guy's dragonling, or sell a dragonling and only 1 or 2 gears with it. Pricing and demands will vary by server/faction so react accordingly.

The most important part to this is to keep up with demand. You need to maintain enough gears for your dragonlings. And enough dragonlings that people won't not find them when they look. Alternately you can 'partner' with someone else. One of you making gears and the other makes the dragonlings.

I recommend 3 addons for maintaining your supply/auctions.

Advanced Tradeskill Window - This lets you queue up multiple items for creation, then you can click the "reagents" button to see exactly how many resources you need compared to what you have on you, in your bank, and on alts.
Carbonite - It's an all in one package map and tons of other things. The reason I recommend it is for it's "warehouse" function. It can add into the tooltip of an item exactly how many you have on you, alts, in your bank, in the guild bank, and on the auction house. This lets you know while you're at an anvil/forge exactly how many items you need to make by checking the tooltip in the profession window. Any addon that does the same will work fine if you don't want to get Carbonite.
Auctioneer - Can set-up batch posting of your gears and dragonlings making it easy to dump all you stuff back onto the auction house. It also tracks pricing, What sells and what doesn't, making it easier to adjust pricing to your server. Any Auction plugin that can do this will also be fine.

Comentado por Chronalis

Warlocks, Take note - Do NOT use this, or any other trinkets that summon, on Kanrethad/Warlock Green Fire quest. The trinket may proc during the felhunter phases, which often causes one of them to turn around, and may cause it to 'eat' the enslave on your pit lord, which will likely lead to a wipe.

Comentado por Janettie

If you are a rogue (or possibly feral druid) with this trinket, you will be very eager to upgrade out of it. The dragonling loves to stay out while you are stealthed, and if it aggroes anything (or vice versa), the enemies will target you through stealth. And trust me when I say that this will happen frequently.

There is no way to despawn the pet except by waiting manually, also. This pet can be quite tedious... you'll likely find yourself spending valor on trinkets first if you own this trinket.

Comentado por THRobinson

Can I equip two? Hate when an items is vague about 'rules'... I made a pair of Elementium Dragonlings then had a message pop up saying that I can only equip 1. Now the extra is stuck in AH and no one is buying. :S

Comentado por Shadowtek

one thing that blizz put a limit on regarding sockets is that you can only have one of each named cogwheel
example i got both goggles and the trinket on hunter making it needed to use ONE of each crit,mastery,hit,expertise and haste

you can not have ex 2xexpertise cogwheels

found this out the hard way

Comentado por ruthven78

well you can buy and equip the trinket and get the bonus of occasionally summoning a dragonling...but you cannot fill any of the sockets unless you are on engineer

Comentado por Zaufania

just a thought, has anyone tried this trinket in timewalking? seems like it could be BiS for such a huge ilvl drop

Comentado por Duckyou

tested it recently still does 900 dmg to lvl 120 mobs sometimes it miss no use for high level.

Comentado por Frostybolts

Note that for 9.1.5 timewalking you'll need a Pandaria engineer to install the +12 stat gems, or a fully-leveled Cataclysm engineer to install the +16 stat gems. Not sure why engineers are crafting these things and then listing them on the AH without installing any cogwheels..

Comentado por trappum

I just tried (7/3/2022) to make this for a level 20 warrior, well apparently you can't make a level 19 anymore, as you can no longer use the optional reagent slot "It requires "rank 40 skill", whatever that means. I double checked with an earlier warrior that I made. He still has his and can use it, but the skill has been unlearned. He can't make it anymore.

Edited: I just bought one (level 19) at the action house. So you can still buy them. I don't know if I can gem it. I'll leave another update on that.

Update: You can buy the trinket, but in order to add the cogwheels, you have to train Cataclysm engineering to 75. I did this and was able to place the cogwheels on the trinket.

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