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Comentado por 665258

O buff te dá a chance de adquirir um Pequenino Baú de Tesouro adicional ao saque em qualquer mob nas áreas listadas.

Cada Pequenino Baú de Tesouro tem a chance de conter:

3-5 Ouro
75% de chance de conter 8 a15 Tecido de Seribrasa
15% de chance de conter um Elemento Volátil.

Comentado por Havenox

Vi num site que essa pocao funciona em tol barad... verdade?

Comentado por reborn49

Em 1 hora dropei o seguinte:

drop de gold/ekips - 724g
494 tecidos de seribrasa - 1235g
18 pedras de elemêntio - 35g
9 pedras de pirita - 14g
23 terra volátil - 211g
9 vida volátil - 43g
13 fogo volátil - 65g
26 ar volátil - 133g
7 água volátil - 94g

total: 2554g
servidor azralon, horda

Comentado por Primordial94

Em uma hora de farm no Grim Batol, com essa poção, eu consegui o seguinte:

-636 de gold(dropado dos mobs, da venda dos itens cinza e azul, e das caixinhas de tesouro que dropam graças a poção)
-530 tecido seribrasa(dos mobs e da caixinha de tesouro) (cerca de 957 golds)
-95 pó hipnótico(desencantado dos itens verdes) (cerca de 1900 golds)
-44 essencias celestiais inferiores(desencantadas dos itens verdes) (cerca de 528 golds)
-20 terra volatil(da caixinha de tesouro) (cerca de 280 golds)
-12 vida volatil(da caixinha de tesouro) (cerca de 108 golds)
-10 ar volatil(da caixinha de tesouro) (cerca de 50 golds)
-24 agua volatil(da caixinha de tesouro) (cerca de 240 golds)
-7 fogo volatil(da caixinha de tesouro) (cerca de 56 golds)
-6 minerio de pirita(da caixinha de tesouro) (cerca de 90 golds)

=Lucro bruto: 4845
-Valor gasto com reparo da armadura: 84 golds
-Valor gasto com a poção: 150 golds
-Taxa paga ao leilao pela venda das mercadorias = 5% de 4611

=Lucro liquido aproximada: 4380 golds em mercadoria por hora de farm.

Obs: eu skipei todos os boss..
Obs 2: fui exatamente 6 vezes nesses 60 minutos
Obs 3: antes do ultimo boss, eu sempre me jogo na lava, pra nao precisar voltar andando pro inicio da dungeon..
Obs 4: A coleta foi feita dia 4/08/2014 e eu sou do gallywix, ou seja, é quase certeza que o lucro oscile de um server e de uma data pra outra.

Bom farm a todos ;D

Comentários

Comentado por 408153

Time to dust off the swords of Ali-baba...

Comentado por Butch82

While under the influence of this potion, you seem to sometimes get Tiny Treasure Chest as extra loot. The chest i just opened contained 4g17s and 8 Embersilk Cloth.

EDIT: Second chest i looted contained 4g17s and 8 cloth again, third chest 2g83s and no cloth.
I was was farming lvl 83 Scion of Al'akir in Uldum for Volatile Air.

Comentado por 195182

The Potion of Treasure Finding will sometimes reward you with an extra Tiny Treasure Chest when you loot a monster, the chest contains 3-5 Gold, has a 75% chance to contain 8-15 Embersilk Cloth, and a 15% chance to contain a Volatile element.

Every (roughly) 7 chests will award 1 Volitile element, 60 Embersilk Cloth, and 28 Gold.
The question is... what is the drop rate of the chests?

Comentado por 39909

We can do some simple napkin math to see if this is worth doing:

Based on the information(as of November 26th, 2010) that a Tiny Treasure Chest has:

3-5 Gold
75% chance to contain 8-15 Embersilk Cloth
15% chance to contain a single Volatile Element

We can also get the AVERAGE AMOUNT of chests per potion(C) using:

Dc = Drop rate of Chest(As a decimal, currently unknown.)
Kr = Creatures killed/Hour

C = Kr*Dc

Now to get the VALUE of the average amount of chests per potion(V) we use:

G = Average gold per chest. G = 4.
nEC = Average Embersilk Cloth per chest. EC = (0.75)x = 8.625
vEC = AH Value of an Embersilk Cloth
nVOL = Average Volatiles per chest. VOL = 0.15
vVOL = Average AH Value of one of all droppable Volatiles

V = G + nEC*vEC + nVOL*vVOL
= 4 + 8.625*vEC + 0.15*vVOL

So basically C * V is the total value of all extra items/gold received during one potion use.

Now to get the TOTAL COST(cPOT) per Potion of Tresure Finding.

Requirements:

vCIN = Average AH Value of a Cinderbloom.
vSV = Average AH Value of a Stormvine.
vHB = Average AH Value of a Heartblossom.
vWT = Average AH Value of a Whiptail.

cPOT = 8*vCIN + 4*vSV + 8*vHB + 4*vWT + 0.01

Here is the obligatory big formula:

Net Profit/Loss per Potion
= (C*V)-cPOT
= (Kr*Dc)*(G + nEC*vEC + nVOL*vVOL) - (8*vCIN + 4*vSV + 8*vHB + 4*vWT + 0.01)

If C*V>cPOT then you are making (C*V)-cPOT gold per potion.
If C*V<cPOT then you are losing cPOT-(C*V) gold per potion.

TLDR - Lots of variables, and it will take some research to figure out if this is worth doing.
To people asking whats the point? Well once I know the drop rate I can just fill it in and improve the formula!
-Edited to improve formulas.

Comentado por Hablin

My results so far is 3 potions and 3 chests. I am not having that much luck with them.

Comentado por 53573

These potions also work in the dungeons located in the zones as described in the tooltip.

Comentado por 460596

I just leveled from 80-81 in the hour before the potion wore off and got 8 chests.

Total from the 8 were:
31g
37 Embersilk cloth
6 Volatile Fire
2 Volatile Air

Comentado por 348739

Also to note this works in Tol'barad. I went to do dailies today after using it during my continued questing in Uldum and it dropped 3x while killing.

Comentado por 49034

I tried it at Nordrassil in Hyjal on the elementals that keep respawning (I was missing a couple of volatile earth).

That's a nice place to use this potion as you can kill non stop and on a PVP server guards can always help against some gankers, especially early in Cataclysm.

So after 1 hours of intense killing I got about 13 chests. I ended up with almost 3 stacks of cloth and 8 volatile air.

Comentado por 66635

60 minutes worth of farming Scions of Al'Akir with this potion netted me 8 Tiny Treasure Chests after exactly 170 kills. Seems to be a worthwhile investment if you're into some non-stop farming (at least with current prices on my server).

Comentado por 695019

I just spent three hours under the effect of this potion, farming the mobs at Ruins of Ammon in Uldum (southwestern side of the map). I chose this spot sort of randomly, but it ended up working out pretty well as I never ran out of mobs to kill.

Posting my information here for other people to get an idea of how much of a boost these potions give you, let you know a great spot to farm, and to add some data to anyone doing calculations.

After three hours, I had looted the following:
~ 13 stacks of Embersilk Cloth
- 8 Green Quality Items
~ Various grays and gold
- 26 Tiny Treasure Chests

Upon opening the Tiny Treasure Chests, I got:
~ 6 stacks of Embersilk Cloth
- 5 Volatile Life
- 5 Volatile Fire
- 3 Volatile Water
- 5 Volatile Air
- 99g32s31c

For a total of (over three hours):
~19 stacks of Embersilk Cloth
~ 8 Green Quality items and various grays
~ about 150g
- 18 various volatiles

Comentado por Bozonofski

Does it add to the base drops of mobs as well?
I'm pretty sure I was seeing quite a bit more silver and greens while using the potions.
Hard to get exact numbers though.

EDIT: Full normal Vortex Pinnacle run with the potion on and only had a single chest drop.

Comentado por 266144

Something I discovered yesterday: if you have a group, and only one person is using this potion, the tiny treasure chests can drop for them off of the other person's kills/lootable mobs. This seemed to work both for group loot and free-for-all. I killed and looted entire packs, and the potion-using group member was able to come by after and loot treasure chests off of them.

This potion might be best used in a full group (perhaps even raid?) with most people killing and looting their own kills, and the potion-user flying around and picking up the chests.

Comentado por 677641

This is probably a coincidence; Whenever I've been using this while farming level 84-85 skinnable mobs, I've been getting more Strange Bloated Stomach and Savage Leather x2 drops. I'll start keeping track of the amount of leather after an hour of farming with and without this Elixir. Can anyone verify or deny this?

Comentado por Tashre

Picked up a potion off the AH for ~250g and went to the Elementium Depths in Twilight Highlands (37,88).

Over the course of an hour I looted:

25g worth of gray items

3 BoE greens (disenchanting into 4 Greater Celestial Essences and 1 Hypnotic Dust)

95 Embersilk cloth

10 Tiny Treasure Chests, containing
- ~34g
- 26 Embersilk cloth (for a total of 121)
- 1 Volatile Life
- 3 Volatile Earths

Checking the prices of each item on the AH I figured I collected about 1,264g worth of materials (not including the money directly looted from corpses as I neglected to track how much I gathered that way), making for about a 500% gain on the cost of the original potion.

Granted, some portion of all this loot would've dropped without the help of the potion, the potion easily gave ample reason to go out and farm, and I certainly wouldn't have grinded with the tenacity I did had I not a limited time buff to worry about making the most of, buffing my gold per hour rate higher.

Comentado por 36754

Found a nice spot in Deepholm. There's an area where the stone dwarfs are fighting troggs (the area where you buff the stone men with the totem). There is usually packs of 4-8 mobs and it's fairly easy to AoE them down (at least as a lock).

Gave this potion to my lvl 83 lock and in an hour I had 27 chests dropped, countless embersilk, loads greens/greys and a tonne of EXP. Also i'm not exaggerating.

Inversely I put a pot on whilst farming in Uldum for volatile air on my 85 mage and found only 8 chests. It's really not worth it unless you hit a spot with tonnes upon tonnes of mobs.

Comentado por sidelsky18

The drop rate must be pretty bad. After an hour of farming/questing using this potion I didn't receive a single chest. I must have killed over 300 mobs.

Comentado por lynchsta

EDIT: Full normal Vortex Pinnacle run with the potion on and only had a single chest drop.

From what I have seen, the ONLY truly useful time to use this potion is if you are farming and farming HARD.

Casual killing and doing instances seems to be a waste of mats for these pots. I've gone after solo mobs under the potion's effects and only ended up with a few treasure chests. I have also gone to places where I can AOE down 5-14 mobs at a time and found that I end up with significantly more chests. Bottom line, you can do what you want, but to get the most out of this pot, go big or stay home.

Comentado por temmy69

So after maintenance does it still give procs through the elixir mastery? Or Did they fix it to the potion mastery item? :( Cause my elixir master failed to get any procs...

Comentado por strongsado

I used 2 pots over 2 hours and would get on average a chest every 5 to ten min farming mobs in vashir, not that it mattered but I was trying to maximize how many kills I was getting with almost no downtime on my warlock.

Comentado por 565816

Current feeling after giving this a go is, not really worth chugging just for doing dailies, but pretty good for when you are straight out farming/killing. Did Tol Barad, Wildhammer and Therazane dailies under the effects, wearing off near the end of Therazane, and got 3 chests. Too much time spent moving and picking quest items, not enough time spent killing! :)

Comentado por Wraithnight

From my own experience with these potions, they are not worth it.
Out of the 3 times I've used them i received 1 Chest in the hour of the first one. 2 in the hour of the second and 1 in the hour of the third.
i would recommend making them and selling them, or not making them at all once they become un-popular.
Hopefully blizzard will increase the Drop rate, if they do then they may become more useful.

Comentado por mewmewface

can someone just cut to the chase and tell me if this is worth making? these mats are ....not cheap.

Comentado por Libra

I farmed zealous for 1 hour in hyjal just for you! (and the gold!)

1 =13

============= Opening 13 boxes =============
Elementals:
9 Earth
3 Water
1 Life
38 Ember Silk Cloth
44 Gold

Comentado por bigfluffy

Feel like this has been nerfed in the past week or so... last 5 times i've used it i've gotten two treasure chests per hour of potion while questing, which is a slap in the face when you look at mats cost. May still be worth it if you're planning to AOE grind specifically for it, but i'm sure there are easier ways to make gold.

Comentado por Tackytucks

Annoying that the treasure increase is so slight that one has to go through all the above shenanigans to even GUESS if there is any usefulness in this potion.

Probably yet another "filler" waste of time potion. Dunno why blizz does this to us. Just dump all the crap potions and make a few good ones if they dont want to bother balancing them out.

Comentado por 752836

Flasked up, ate up, buffed up, and went out to southern Uldum to farm the level 83 undead ghosts for five hours. After extensive farming at a very fast rate, the averages were as follows.

In one hour's time (one potion): 17 chests containing

57.8 gold
58 cloth
13 volatiles

The loot at this drop rate appears higher than initial reports. Even as such, the auction price of the materials to make the potion (as of this post) are approximately 200 gold, sometimes much higher. The auction prices of the gained materials/gold from the drops net you about 500-600 per hour. Leaving a profit of only 400 gold per hour, this form of farming is completely incomparable to herbing/mining. At this point in time, this potion is a waste.

Comentado por darksoul019

While farming for volatile fires in an hour i received 8 chests which had the following

25 embersilk cloth
1 volatile life
27g

NO IM NOT JOKING, either the rates of the items have been severely nerfed of i was so unlucky to the point of me trying not to break my keyboard in half while typing this out.

I got 2 of these potions and im most likely going to sell the other one back on the AH

Comentado por Sawendro

This potion isn't really worth it. I got 2 chests, totalling 7G and 5 Embersilk Cloth. Not worth the 200G I paid at all.

Comentado por 86240

How does this work in regards to when the loot table is determined?

Is it determined that i am under the use of the potion upon mob kill and a chest can/will spawn on the corpse OR does it determine that i am under the use of the potion upon looting the mob and a chest can/will spawn.

Situation:

in a group i am using a potion they are not, they kill the mob i loot it. can i get a chest?

or does it have to be

in a group i am using a potion and i have to tag it in order to get a chest?

because this also comes into play, i kill 50 mobs while using the potion and then it runs out. i go back to loot everything, can i get the chest still because i had the effect upon kill but no upon looting.

Thanks for any help, i have my assumptions but would like to hear others opinions/facts.

Comentado por 510559

These sell for 950G on my server...mats cost around 200G to buy...and significantly less if you farm them yourself. Easy cash.

Comentado por 750498

Just adding sum data..

Aff warlock farming the stone trogs on the ledge just above where the Stone Bats and Jaspertip Swarmer packs are in Deepholme using the potion and also a tailor.

1hr Duration
372 Total mobs killed
112g from looting corpse and selling greys
229 cloth
7 greens
19 chests
- 67g
- 59 cloth
- 6 Vollatile air
- 2 Vollatile fire
- 2 Vollatile life

Comentado por 229346

Another parse from my use. Just to show the baseline farming value in that area vs value of the pot. I see a lot of people just posting totals without making it clear how much value is just from farming and how much is from the potion.

- 09.5g repair bill
+111.0g grey trash
+ 60.0g 4x green items ~15g per
+275.0g 35x Toughened flesh, AH prices*
+ 80.0g 16x Embersilk Cloth, AH prices*
_______
+516.5g just from baseline farming

Also got 27 Tiny Treasure Chest containing:
2x Earth
3x Life
2x Water
146x Cloth
106g

Value local is
+730g 146x Embersilk Cloth, AH prices*
+030g 2x Volatile Water
+018g 3x Volatile Life
+026g 2x Volatile Earth
_____
+804g is what the potion was worth that run (1hr)

I've had others where I pulled a good deal
more volatiles, but just pure time spent farming
the bats and flayers are going to get you 500g
an hour without the buff. The potion is going to
give you another 750-1500 in my experience based on
how lucky you get with the volatile drops. Even
this particular run with only 7 Volatiles in 27
boxes shows that the cloth by itself is worth the
cost of the potion. Pots go around 200-250g on my
server.

Comentado por 758896

Just farmed stone troggs as an 83 Demo lock, I did alot of aoe pulls. Here are my results as of tonight. There was one point where I had to accually miss a 5 min period do to being jumped and killed by alliance. I lost count of the number of kills, is there an addon for that?
Got 21 boxes
Contained:
77 cloth
81g
and 23 volatiles. 4 earth, 5 fire, 6 air, 5 water, 3 life.
All in all not bad. The price of these potions went way down for some reason on my server. I bought mine for 110g. After this I went and bought 8 more for that price, before the price goes back up.

Comentado por Wicek

1 potion - 1 hour - Twilight Highlands

Demonology Warlock - http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/hellfire/wic/advanced

Mobs:
- Bloodeye Brute Bruto Olho de Sangue
- Twilight Ettin Gorjala do Crepúsculo
- Bloodeye Magelord Lordemago Olho de Sangue

They have roughly ~85200 hp. In packs of 5-7. They hit like a truck. Not sure, if any other class/spec can farm them at good pace, without dying. Around 324 mobs looted.

Normal loot:
- 499 Embersilk Cloth
- 24 Tiny Treasure Chest
- ~40g trash.
- 7 greens

Tiny Treasure Chest loot
- ~74 gold
- 74 Embersilk Cloth
- 24Volatiles of every kind

Comentado por clavarnway

I spent one hour farming Restless Infantry and Restless Soldier. I chose these mobs because they constantly fight each other, reducing their HP, but give full loot when killed, so you can kill more per hour. Also, they drop cloth, and being that I'm a Tailor, with Northrend Cloth Scavenging, they drop more cloth per kill. Northrend Cloth Scavenging still works on Cataclysm mobs.

I did not AOE farm these, rather I just rode to the next pack, and killed them then loot them. They drop fast.

Here is my regular loot for the hour:

115g from picked up gold + sold greys
8 green items = I de'd these into enchanting mats, but greens right now on my server are listed for 40-100g each, so there's value in them
396 Embersilk Cloth

Loot from 17 Tiny Treasure Chests
- 67g
- 73 Embersilk Cloth = ~5g per = 365g
- 6 Volatile Air = ~40g per = 240g
- 2 Volatile Water = ~35g per = 70g
- 2 Volatile Earth = ~25g per = 50g
- 2 Volatile Fire = ~20g per = 40g
- 2 volatile Life = ~10g per = 20g

Total value of Potion for this farming session: 852g

I paid 210 for the potion, so I made a rough profit of 640g. This of course depends on the values of the above items on your realm, and how much you can get the potion for.

Also I want to reiterate that I got as much cloth as I did because I'm also a Northrend Cloth Scavenger. I'm not sure what kind of loot you would get from these without that perk.

Comentado por 469121

you need to be under the effect of the buff to loot the chests.
it's like the cloth scavenging skill; but it was passive....

in a group i am using a potion they are not, they kill the mob i loot it. can i get a chest?

- yeah. about 5% chance. but you'll only see the chest after they open the loot for the mob.

in a group i am using a potion and i have to tag it in order to get a chest?

- There's no tagging difference if its in a group.

because this also comes into play, i kill 50 mobs while using the potion and then it runs out. i go back to loot everything, can i get the chest still because i had the effect upon kill but no upon looting.

- this shouldnt work. You need to be under the effect of the buff to get the extra loot. if your pot ends up before you loot, you'll see the corpse shining, and when you open loot there wont be anything there, and it'll turn unlootable. like when a mob have only a quest item on his loot table, and you're not in the corresponding quest.

*this is not tested, its assumed by my knowledge on game mechanics.

Comentado por Rossmallo

"The drops from Tiny Treasure Chests have been improved slightly."

Taken from 4.0.6 patch notes. These potions are finally getting buffed a bit.

Comentado por 536441

I've found a pretty awesome place to use these. In deepholm, in the area where all the earthen and the troggs are fighting. The earthen will hold aggro for a decent amount of time while you aoe the troggs down, and there are a metric ton of them as far as the eye can see.

Comentado por Melodieous

Farmed the Scion of Al'Akir for an hour. Only looted 2 chests.

The first chest after 25 mins of farming which contained 6 Embersilk Cloth and 3g.
The second looted after 44 mins of farming which contained 7 Embersilk Cloth and 4g.

As you can tell I am pretty disappointed. Was hoping for some Volatiles. ):

Comentado por Jazzism

Patch 4.0.6 will increase the drop rate for the treasure chests making it more worth the price of a pot.

Comentado por 761987

Bought one of these pots for 149g today.
On a lvl 82 Mutilate Rogue, I looted 53.95g.
Vendored 19 greys for 40.53 g.
5 Volatile Fires (20g ea) and 2 Earths (17gea).
15 Embersilk cloths (3.50g ea).
4 Greens with an avg. Disenchant worth of 25g a piece on my server.
6 Tiny Treasure Chests.

Those chests contained:
16g
2 stacks of Embersilk Cloth (70g a stack).
2 Volatile Earths (34g for both).

I will definitely say this pot is worth it.

Oh yea, I was killing level 81 mobs at Ascendamts Rise @ Mt. Hyjal.
Flame Ascendants and Twilight Subjigator's.

Comentado por 772945

I was wondering if when using Pick Pocket it would be possible to loot the tiny chest.
Anyone knows?

Comentado por SanSan

After 20 minutes of killing things for dailies in southern Tol Barad - just for dailies, no grinding or even unecessary pulls - I ended up with 4 chests. So if it didn't work in southern TB before, I can confirm it does now.

Comentado por 777221

Anyone else out there tried this + skinning?

Tooltip says "monsters" so I thought I'd give it a shot. Lvl 84 feral druid, North East Twilight Highlands, one hour, 117 mobs (116 savage leathers 1 pristine hide). A random mix of wolves, elks, and owls. I got 2 tiny treasure chests. Wasn't sure if you should open them right away, or just keep them, if no more would drop until you opened them. I left the first unopened for about 25 minutes before I decided to open it up thinking its presence might be preventing another one on the loot table. I got my second, and last around 5 minutes before the potion wore off.

I did get one pristine hide, my first one actually, thinking it was more RNG luck than the potion.

Still curious as to other peoples experiences. LWing takes alot of mats, I'll be spending alot of time skinning alot of mobs, figured I might as well give this potion a chance, intend to try it again a few more times, might have simply gotten some bad luck.

Also assuming I'd had alot better luck if the alt I was doing this on was 85 and had significantly improved gear. More mobs, better chance. And also the time it takes to skin I'm sure cuts out a little of the results. Still, was getting mats, and xp at the same time with a chance for an additional perk, figured it was time well spent.

Regardless, I plan on trying this repeatedly. Wondering (hoping) I was just on the unlucky side of the RNG tonight.

Comentado por 462837

I went an hour with the potion and only one chest dropped, so either I'm really unlucky or the drop rate is a bit low for just buying the potions. Probably more ideal for alchemists and/or herbalists, no wasted money there :D

Comentado por 79973

Great spot to farm with this: Mt Hyjal, the opening area under Nordrassil with the earth elementals. Since the Wardens are fighting them and they have a very fast respawn rate, you can just go around a small area and they will always be there.

1 hr farming there:
20 Chests
91g in grays (a handful of these from mining 1-in-20 elementals accidentally)
52 (!) Volatile Earth (a few of these also from mining, not many at all)
5 greens

in the chests:
76g
4 Volatile Earth
4 Volatile Fire
3 Volatile Water
7 Volatile Life
89 Embersilk Cloth

The high chest count was from BM hunter, I would tag and let pet/wardens do most of the killing. Spent more time looting and walking than killing. Instant respawn on elementals once there are none left in area near wardens; you kill one, then 2 or 3 replace it.

TL;DR: High Volatile Earth and treasure chest count make this one of the most optimal places around, despite the elementals dropping no gold directly. This is only true if there aren't griefers around.

Comentado por Lartoon

I can confirm that "Potion of Treasure Finding" is not affected by Mixology which is very very very sad to me. Shall we start a petition with blizzard?

Comentado por twpmorph

from what i saw from my experience every last one of you was lucky as hell. I used one and grinded for the full hour and got 5 chest all containing nothing but gold..average 3g42s per and a totalof 6 embersilk cloth. not one volatile nor more than one chest contained any cloth.These cost roughly 80-90g to make on our server and the return is less than the cost of mats. Way to go blizzard for finding another useless gold pit.oh and i killed 251 mobs..thats makes drop rate on tiny chests less than 2%. If you are considering making these I seriously wouldnt bother.

Comentado por 499947

In one hour of doing quests I got 28 embersilk cloth but didn't count the gold. I think that alone is worth the potion costs since at most I would have gotten maybe 8 cloth in an hour.

Comentado por 376656

Farmed the same spot for 1 hour (Frost Mage):

23 Chests
105g In Grays
66 Volatile Earths
8 Greens (DE'd into 7 Dust and 4 Lesser Essence)
1 Design: Regal Jasper

In the Chests:

100 Embersilk Cloth
3 Volatile Air
4 Volatile Fire
1 Volatile Earth
5 Volatile Life
74g

Comentado por 248983

Decided to give one a whirl post patch.

Looted
98 gold
another 27 gold in vendor items
3 greens
129 cloth
and around 12 chests which contained
some of the above cloth
6 pyrite ore
1 elementium ore
6 volatile air
4 volatile waters
1 volatile life

Comentado por Beikon

I looted 27 of these chests in 1 hour by killing rock elementals in Hyjal right outside at the starting place.

I also made a youtube video of me opening all of the chests + other things related to potion of treasure finding and tiny treasure chests. This is after the 4.0.6 so you'll see the improved loot from the chests. Check it out if you really want to see with your own eyes what you get inside these chests :). It's totally worth it if you can handle grinding mobs non stop for 1 hour... well, as long as you don't pay too much for the potion itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBNn8C5iyic

Comentado por 79973

I also did another post-4.0.6 run at Mt Hyjal starting area.

19 chests containing:

133 Embersilk Cloth

6 Volatile Air

3 Volatile Fire

6 Volatile Life

2 Volatile Water

2 Elementium Ore

3 Pyrite Ore

Unknown gold, but something like 3g per chest.

Also got 72 Volatile Earth (some from chests), 6 green items (some from chests), and over 100g of grays. All in all, it seems to have gotten a pretty significant buff, even if you only counted the cloth alone. Adding in more volatiles and some ore you might be getting 50% more returns from these potions now. Doing another run now.

Comentado por 251894

A guildy of mine took the Potion last night when he entered H ToT. One of the chests he picked up also contained Encantamento de Agilidade - Braçadeiras, the new "Enchant Bracer - Agility" that was just released.

Comentado por 79973

<Spoiler for Vashj'ir>
A great place to farm for these could potentially be right after you finish Kelpthar Forest and you swim into the cave to meet the Shaman. After you go into a trance, you come back and naga are attacking. If you DO NOT accept the next quest then you will remain in this phase and the counter for the naga killing will go up to 50 and reset at 1 again. You can kill them forever and they keep spawning to attack.

The problem here is that you can't just tap them in order to be able to loot them. You need to do a certain amount of damage, somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 of their hp, or 10-15k, I think. But they drop a lot of Embersilk Cloth and they die and respawn the fastest in the game.

If you are a great AoE class then this would be the best way to use this potion, hands down. Many people will have already done Vashj'ir however, and will no longer be able to see this phase. As a BM hunter this was not the best place to farm with this potion, though I can confirm I did get 4 Tiny Treasure Chests in 20 minutes. After that I left to go to Hyjal.

TL;DR: If you level to 85 without doing Vashj'ir AND you have amazing AoE, such as any mage, or boomkin, this should be the best place to use this potion.

Comentado por shutson06

fresh 85 ele shammy

45 mins farming w/ 1/2 of the time spent skinning corpses roughly 200 beasts (rather have leather than cloth)

75g from grays
2 stacks heavy savage leather (mostly scraps being upgraded)
6 bloated stomachs (2 volatile air, 2 earth, 2 water & 3 fire)
4 greens (DEing)
88 snake eye, 2 toughened flesh, & 4 blood shrimp (working on guild achieve for foods crafted ^_^)
41 deepsea scale

19 chests =
69g
100 embersilk cloth
7 earth, 10 fire, 5 water, 4 life, 2 air
1 green
6 pyrite ore
17 elementium ore

This is the 3rd time i've used this potion (1st time since patch) and def. seems as the drop has increased normally i would only get 9-13 chests and i've never received ore or greens b4 until now idk if its new but i like

Comentado por 785540

Decided to try these out after the buff. Grinded mobs in Vashir near the starting area as a lvl 82 prot pally. Tried to pull between 5 and 10 mobs at a time and AoE them down. In 1 hour I got 11 chests. I could have gone faster but I was skinning as I went and got 15 stacks of leather and leather scraps in the hour as well.

This is what I got just from the chests, ignoring drops from mobs etc.

40g
71 cloth
7 pyrite ore
3 elementium ore
6 volatile earth
10 volatile water
4 volatile air
2 volatile fire
5 volatile life
1 lvl 80 green armor

I bought the potion for 100g, the items I got will AH for about 650 on my server.

Comentado por Jeramus

Here are my results from an hour AOE grinding in Deepholm.

15 chests -
55.84 gold
56 embersilk cloth
7 Volatile Earth
4 Volatile Water
3 Pyrite Ore
6 Elementium Ore
2 green items

Comentado por 730557

Was wondering if you use this potion while pick pocketing mobs, do you still have a chance to get the Tiny treasure chest? It doesn't mention in the description if you actually have to defeat then loot the monster or not. Sorry if this is a stupid question. :x

Comentado por dlbert2000

Dont show these to Harrison Jones

Comentado por 595264

I suggest for Hunters to go MM for this as Rapid Recuperation automatically restores 50 focus upon killing any mob that rewards experience hence any mobs in the new zones. I farm a spot just below Nordrassil at the twilight camp where the mobs have 24-30k hp. 3 Arcane shots is the most that it takes to kill one of the mobs at 349 average Item level but it usually only takes me 2 as most mobs have already taken damage from the hyjal defenders.

2 Arcane shots costs 44 focus with Efficiency which is completely restored by RR and 3 costs 66 focus with Efficiency and the natural focus regen during the 2 Gcd it takes to fire your three shots will restore most if not all of the 16 focus not restored by RR. With this all you have to do is run around the camp which is constantly respawning spamming AS and looting.

I get an average of 31 chests per hour with this potion and with the 4.06 buff to the chests i made about 1700g from the chests alone on my last try.

Comentado por 701648

Farmed the trolls on the westside of Deepholm for an hour and looted the following:

From Mobs:
86 Gold From Looting
24 Gold From Greys
68 Embersilk Cloth
3 Green Pieces
1 Corcova de Camelo Petrificada

From Tiny Treasure Chests (15 Chests Total):
51 Gold
3 Green Pieces
60 Embersilk Cloth
8 Elementium Ore
8 Pyrite Ore
11 Volatile Air
8 Volatile Earth
5 Volatile Water

Also, as a rogue, I managed to loot 17 Flame-Scarred Junkboxs.

Comentado por 789115

The Deepholm money making spot off these (the flayers/bats) has been fixed, and those mobs no longer drop loot. I found this out the hard way, unfortunately. :(

Comentado por isendims

I'm sure theres been enough of these post so far but..
Class Enhance shaman
Mobs lvl 83 troggs @ N of Stonehearth Deepholm
1 Potion
Decided to drink one of these while attempting to farm the agile stadowspirit diamond cut. Which I got ~20 kills in.

End result?
31 chests
avg of 4g per
11 fire
7 water
2 earth
6 air
9 life
1 green helm
8 pyrium ore
17 elementium ore
128 cloth

Add that in with all the silver / greens / grays outside of the chests. You end up with a pretty sweet profit.

I didn't open any of the chests until I was done farming and sent all the outside items to an alt.

Comentado por NonTurnBasedDude

I spend about 45 minutes in Uldum farming, and i got 6 tiny chests.

~17g
26 Cloth = ~52g
9 Volatile Life ~99g
3 Volatile Earth ~18g
3 elementium Ore ~15g

I paid 120g for one potion on AH, so it was worth it :P

(the prices I used for the loot is based on Lowest AH price -5%)

Comentado por 389481

1 hour of grinding Flame Ascendants with Potion of Treasure Finding – BM Hunter level 84:

Flame Ascendants killed: 320
Volatile Fire: 68
Volatile Fire droprate: 21%

Green Items: 5
Green Items droprate: 1.6%

Treasure Chests: 18
Treasure Chest droprate: 5.6%

Treasure chest contents:
63 gold
5x stacks of Embersilk Cloth
10x Volatile Fire
2x Volatile Water
8x Elementium Ore
1x green item

Worth (rounded) at time of writing, server prices:

Greys: 90
Treasure chests: 450
Greens (disenchanted): 100
Volatile Fire: 900

Total: ~ 1500g

Potion of Treasure Finding cost: ~70g

Treasure Chest - cost of Potion = 380g

Comentado por 793552

On my server, I tend to farm far more than the potion is worth. So, for all those alchemists out there wondering whether they should use the potion themselves or sell it, it is more profitable for you to use them yourself. This would drive the prices up (based on my limited knowledge of economics), thereby making the potion worthless to a player who would buy it on the AH.

tl;dr: As far as I can tell, using the potion yourself is good for you, but bad for the economy. Yes, that's right: You, too, can be Big Pharmaceutical!

Comentado por 293408

I farmed these for an hour killing the earth elementals right outside Nordrassil.

85 frost mage
killed approx 349 mobs

From the mobs alone I got:
75g vendoring greys
10 green items
50 volatile earth

From herbing the node in the area every time it respawned:
11 volatile life
20 cinderbloom

From the 22 treasure chests I got:
7 volatile earth
7 volatile life
14 pyrite ore
13 elementium ore
3 green items
64 embersilk cloth
9 volatile water
3 volatile air
80g

Paid 7g for a repair bill and 115g for the potion. Definitely worth it if you're going to be farming!

Comentado por Azaram

These potions appear to wear off in real time; if you have ten minutes left, log out for 15, when you come back it's gone. Can't do one, do some dailies, then hop off with half of it remaining to use the next day...

Comentado por Titanius05

Method/Setup

Killed two types of elementals in roughly 1 hour increments. Each grind with a potion had a corresponding grind without.
This occurred over a period of 3 weeks.
Vendor trash Elemental shards were counted at the conclusion of each 1hr grind as well as a tally of loot obtained while doing so.
1798 elementals were looted while the potion was in effect, while 2179 were without potion.

Wind Elementals (Scion of Al'Akir & Sweeping Winds, lvl83/84 Uldum)
With 1216/Without 1327 (6 grinds each, roughly 1 hour in duration for non-potion)

Tiny Chests/Not: 63(5%)/0(0%)
Grays: 34(2.79%)/37(2.78)
Greens Quality: 27(2.22%)/19(1.43%)
Volatile Air: 217(17.84%)/229(17.25%)
Blue Quality: 1(.82%)/2(1.5%)
Elementium Chests 2(.16%)/2(.15%)

Water Elementals (Muddied Water Elementals, lvl84 Twilight Highlands)
With 582/Without 852 (3&4 Grinds respectively, roughly 1 hour in duration for non-potion)

Tiny Chests/Not: 27(4.63%)/0(0%)
Grays: 15(2.57%)/26(3.05%)
Greens Quality: 14(2.40%)/20(2.34%)
Volatile Water: 114(19.58%)/152(17.84%)
Blue Quality: 0(0%)/0(0%)
Elementium Chests 1(.17%)/1(.18%)

-----------------------------------------

80 Tiny Chests Loot (Source of drop assumed to have no effect)
Gold looted (rounded to nearest whole Gold coin): 312g(390%) ~3.9g per chest

Volatile Air: 4(5%) 5%@30g=1.5
Volatile Water: 17(21.2%) 21.2%@15=3.18
Volatile Earth: 22(27.5%) 27.%@15=4.05
Volatile Life: 11(13.8%) 13.8%@10=1.38
Volatile Fire: 18(22.5%) 22.5@22=4.95
Embersilk Cloth: 328(410%) 4.1@4g=16.4
Elementium Ore: 8(10%) 10%@5.5=.55
Pyrite Ore: 13(16.3%) 16.3%@14=2.28
Green Quality items: 3(3.7%) 3.7%@8g (just throwing in a value)=.30

===============
38.49 Realized Gold per Chest x9 runs=346.41g per potion

*Note: Several of My "With Potion" runs occurred prior to the loot buff in 4.0.6.

Conclusions:

Potions do not appear to increase the drops of volatiles or uncommon quality items that do not come from Tiny Treasure chests.
5% drop rate of Tiny chests. On average I could kill 200 Elementals per hour so roughly 10 chests per hour
My realized values (in gold) for tiny chests or per potion is obviously flawed in many ways, but the number crunching is just to develop a more tacit understanding of its benefits. To me, the value of this potion is not in gold accumulation, but an increase in efficiency in farming mobs. I need 40 of X, I'll get an extra benefit on the side while doing so.

Comentado por 783885

Do these continue to work in raids?

Comentado por 242265

Same for many here, Troggs north of Stonehearth in Deepholm

Level 85 demonology lock.

Did it for an hour.

20 chests roughly 4-5g a pop

Enough Embersilk to make 51bolts of cloth.

A few greens blown up and sold on the AH

10 Primal earths, some fires and some water.

Some pyrite and elementium ore

All on the AH = an extremely tidy profit.

Comentado por 166755

I got a great many treasure chests a few days ago. However, today, I got three in the first hour and only one in the second hour. I was farming leather in Kelp'thar then and now. I feared it was too good to last. Please tell me it hasn't been nerfed like everything else good.

Comentado por Malazenby

50 minutes of farming AoE mobs

361 Kills
13 Chests
~3.6% drop rate

Wondering if it may proc more or less based on your relative level to the mobs you are killing. Anyone test that yet by chance?

Comentado por 250447

Ok Something I found after testing it 4 times.

I have been in sfk hc and used this pot for the third time ever. Then i noticed in the end that 12 boxes were in my bag. I noticed there was no tailor in group + that I have asked all people to loot which happened except for 1 mob at the very start.

Now I went the next day sfk hc and had a tailor with me. The result was me ending up with 3 boxes.

Again in GB 10 boxes without tailor and 2 with two of them in group. It might have been coincidence, but if anyone else can verify this, it could make grinding with this pot in dungeon a serious extra money maker!

Comentado por lyskan

1hour with this flask (95g @ AH)

Balance druid farming Scalding Rock Elementals just outside Nordrassil (Mount Hyjal)

559kills

571grays 141g 75s 46c

14greens 106g 34s 57c

66volatile earths (5g 50s @ AH = 363g)

601g 10s 3c

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19 treasure chests (3.4% drop)

67g 14s 70c

73 embersilk cloth (cheapest AH stack 50g = 182g 50s)
7 pyrite ore (6g each @ AH = 42g)
2 elementium ore (2g each @ AH = 4g)
3 volatile air (15g each @ AH = 45g)
3 volatile fire (10g each @ AH = 30g)
18 volatile water (6g each @ AH = 108g)
2 greens (sold for 22g)

500g 64s 70c

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total
1101g 79s - 95g for flask = 983g 79s profit with todays AH prices

Comentado por 460435

The data everyone provided on success rate with the chests was very helpful and encouraging so I thought I'd share my experience with this potion.

I used the first one in Uldum grinding air elementals for an hour. The spawns were constant but I was never killing more than one at a time. The mobs themselves dropped lots of volatile air which was nice, but I was very disappointed in the potion. I only got two chests in all those kills. I was discouraged but decided I'd try again today and I must say it's all about LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION :P This time I went to the starting area in Mount Hyjal and grinded the earth elementals as a badly geared level 83 warlock (alt) I was still able to pull and kill about 6 mobs per pull and they constantly respawned. I could have killed more if I had rounded them up better... but anyhow... I had some very good success. I am an alchemist so the potions cost me nothing. I grinded for two hours (two potions) and these are my results:

In two hours I got 107 gold in vendor trash, 12 greens, 46 volatile earths just off of the farming. As for chests related to the potion I picked up a total of 23 chests containing the following:

68 gold
1 uncommon JC recipe (sold it for 250)
5 Volatile Air
7 Volatile water
6 Volatile Life
14 Volatile Earth
7 stacks of embersilk cloth
6 elementium ore
3 pyrite ore

Thank you to everyone else who posted their results. You gave me the determination to try again :) This potion is still highly profitable if used properly- good luck :)

One more result to post: Last one I'll do
One hour of farming earth elementals in Mount Hyjal... this time on my main. I was able to do a shadow word pain on each mob and that was all I had to do to kill them.

I got 80g in vendor trash
4 greens that d/e'd into 5 hypnotic dust and 3 lesser celestial essencse
68 volatile earths - all in all the stuff I got just from the elementals will sell for 810g

Chests: I got 15
20 volatile air
36 gold
3 pyrite ore
7 elementium ore
70 pieces of embersilk cloth
2 volatile water
7 volatile life
3 green items which d/e'd into: 10 hypnotic dust- all in all the stuff from the chests alone will sell on my ah for 1150 gold- so I made at least 2000g :)

Once again- definitely think this is worth the gold. (edited to add more results)

Comentado por Waterdragon

Using this potion and only running the dailies in TH, in 15 minutes i found/looted 5 Tiny Treasure Chest...each containing 3-5g, 8+ Embersilk Cloth, and some of the following Volatile Life,Volatile Fire, Pyrite Ore, and ~~Obsidiam~~ Elementium Ore.
This item can very easily double or triple the cost incurred from either Creating or purchaseing this from AH/Alch.

Comentado por 389481

TLDR: Don't try to farm Enslaved Inferno + Enslaved Tempest in Twilight Highlands.

Was massive fail.

Problems:
1) Respawn rate is too slow.
2) You have to fly/run a lot between them.
3) Most of the times you need to wait for the freed elemental to finish spawning to be able to loot the corpse.

Grand total in 1 hour:
160 kills
massively epic total of 5 treasure chests

The only thing that kept me in good mood that Deathwing came to visit so I got my Stood in the Fire

Comentado por 54591

I have not bothered to confirm this, but I have noticed that mobs that usually do not drop trash or greens tend not to drop the tiny treasure chests either. I spent 40 minutes killing Sand Pygmys and only got 1 chest. I've farmed elsewhere with much better results, so I feel like the mob that I was killing had something to do with my poor results.

Should this be true, then the tiny treasure chest is a drop replacement item - which possibly explains why some of you see fewer green items dropped by mobs. Anyhow, if the tiny treasure chest is a possible loot replacer, then you would want mobs that frequently drop several things (in the event that it is checked per item).

Anyhow, just musing on how this potion works. At the very least, I would not suggest farming Sand Pygmys as I definately had poor luck with them.

Comentado por Waterdragon

Found out this potion also works in the new Dungeons, very nice added loot that doesnt need to rolled on. Tiny Treasure Chest drops, and various other items are lootable from dead critters and can sometimes be looted after other players have already looted creature.

Added: Tested this in new FL Raid, and the chests drops from there as well, it dropped several times on critters that were previously looted by others in the raid, after the other party looted....critter started to give the "sparkle" which allowed me to loot this item.

Why did this get downrated?

Comentado por sivla

The elementals drop lots of Volatile Earth too.

Hate to point it out , these mobs where heavily nerfed. Spent the afternoon farming them and got 12 yes, just 12 V.E from the mobs your talking about, I also know others on the server who have also had the same shocking luck..which to me means they have seriously nerfed these mobs dropping the resource, they are actually worse in my experience than the mines.

Comentado por gbalkam

Apparently, the drop rate for the tiny chests from these potions seems to be broken, or nerfed. Previously, while farming leather, I would kill and skin 20 mobs every 5 minutes, so about 200 per hour. Allowing coffee drinking, and other time outs. So we will go with 200 kills. This yielded about 12 chests. Today, after 30 minutes, say 100 kills, I got zero tiny chests. So i moved to kill humanoids, giblins in Vashj'ir. Fast spawn, easy kill on a lv 85 hunter. 30 minutes yielded up 4 chests and of course 0 leathers. In fact, it wasn't until 40 minutes had passed that i even got the first chest. Giblin kill rate is about 3 per minute, they are farther apart and smaller, harder to find to loot. You have to be right on them and the area is 3d. (like floating in space... of course, you are in water) In other words, if you are not right on x,y,z you cant loot and have to move until you are. I am wondering if anyone has noticed a change in the drops. Either per hour or from specific mobs.

Comentado por 771700

Have yet to see any chest drop...and I have maybe killed 15...yea maybe it is too early to tell but it has been about ten minutes. Been killing the wind elements for the Volatile Air...

yea i was afk for about of the four minutes as well

Edit:
Kay...after 15 minutes of game play...i got my first treasure box...only a few gold and some silk. Thinking this pot is a waste of mats or gold now.Farming for Volatile Air...would think it would drop that instead.

Comentado por 734980

I'm wondering if there is a bad interaction with Northern Cloth Scavenging and this buff. I farmed for an hr this morning, and my chest drop was about 1/2 of normal (12 chests after farming troggs for an hour as an ilvl 352 fire mage -- used to get 20+ regularly before picking up tailoring).

Anyway, I'm going to farm for about 3 hours tonight. I'll collect my data in one hour increments and post.

Comentado por 781377

I've collected some data from using this while farming Scalding Rock Elementals in Mount Hyjal (near Nordrassil) on a miner.

I was in need of volatile earth mostly but I thought I'd go ahead and try and beef up my farming time using a Potion of Treasure Finding.

I had to use my miner so the drawback is both that I had to stop to loot AND mine the corpses of everyting I killed, plus she's a protection paladin so I had to pull large groups and just sort of hump them to death with AoE. I looted and kept it ALL to include in my final tally:

- 407 gray quality "shards" (efflorescing shards, hoary crystals, etc.) vendored for 128g
- 2 gray items vendored for 4g
- 2 green items, disenchanted but their vendor value was 10g
- 46 volatile earth
- 10 tiny treasure chests

Inside my 10 tiny treasure chests:
- 37g
- 35 embersilk cloth
- 11 volatile fire
- 5 volatile earth
- 5 volatile water
- 3 volatile life
- 1 green item, disenchanted but the vendor value was 7g

I pulled current market value for my realm for the consumables and adding that to everything vendored I came in at: 1133g 55s (total)

386g 38s of that total is what came from the tiny treasure chests I picked up.

A nice boost for sure, and technically the treasure chests didn't add any extra work that I was already going to do to farm the volatile earth. So looks like if you're doing any farming of this sort, don't leave home without your potions, kids!

Comentado por imnotret

ok so i just started doing this and i find this to be rly easy to benifit from if you can farm alot of adds 10-17+ adds on you at a time the best place i have found to do this is in deepholm. at a place called stonehearth. i did this on my paly tank 85 and was easly able to clean house there after 1 hour of farming and around 250+ mobs looted i got. 123g 8 Boe greens 74 cloth and countless amounts of greys from looting alone. then i also looted 43 chest witch contaned 145 cloth 8 volatile earth 7 volatile air 10 volatile fire and only 2 volatile water also got 13 BoE greens and 1 BoE blue. with another 234g from chest. so after 1 hour of farming i was able to get.

219cloth=rouphly 825g
21 greens sold for around 1000g
27 volatiles sold for 270g
and 1 blue for 250g

at the end of farming i walked away with..=rouphly 2345g minus the AH fees

So i would say that this potion is def worth it if you have the time and pationts to go out there and work your ass off

Comentado por 118068

About 40 minutes of farming north of Stonehearth in deepholm on my ilvl 350 frost DK, averaging 12 loots per minute got me 25 chests.
~480 kills
Checked mind on my money achievement, got 200g looted in that time period and 10 stacks of embersilk, plus pyrium, greens, and about a dozen of each volatile.

Worth the price of the potion? Definitely. Can make 1000g/hr with this. Keep in mind that I was killing groups of 5-10 in about 10-15 seconds each, though.

RNG is awful on these...I can get 5 in a group of 10 then none for 100+ kills.

Comentado por Skadja

I found one on the AH for 10 gold (I think the guy got his from a Decanter as there is no way an Alchemist puts it up there for 10), and grabbed it.

Went out to farm the Earth Eles in Hyjal, level 85 Shadow Priest. 1 Hour Farming.

Kills (loots): 331 -- seriously this place is awesome for Spriests, mobs die while you run around looting.

Loot From the Mobs:
Chests: 17 (5.1%)
Earths: 53 (16%) (15g ea. = 795g)
Grey Crystals: 67g 15s 38c worth
Grey Items (8): 15g 12s 44c worth
Greens (4): Disenchanted - 1 H. Dust (6g), 3 LCE (1 GCE, 50g)

Chest Drops -- Quantity * AH Value ea. = gold
Gold: 55g 65s 75c
Embersilk Cloth: 82 * 2.1 = 180.6g
V. Earth: 1 * 15 = 15g
V. Air: 3 * 24 = 72g
V. Water: 4 * 12 = 48g
V. Life: 5 * 9 = 45g
V. Fire: 18 x 14 = 252
Elementium Ore: 6 (Sent to JC for Prospect)
Pyrite Ore: 8 (Sent to JC for Storage)
Greens (3): Disenchanted - 4 H. Dust (24g) , 3 LCE (1 GCE, 50g)

Gold from Mob Alone: 82.27.82
AH from Mob Alone: 866g (822.70 after AH cut)
Total from Mob (after cut): 904.97.92

Gold from Chest: 55.65.75
AH from Chest: 726.60 (690.27 after AH cut)
Total from Chest (after cut): 745.92.75
==========================================
Total for 1 hour farming: 1650g, 90s, 67c

About 55% of what I gained is from the mob itself (thanks to the V. Earths), but as you can see, the potion almost doubled my value for that time spent farming. And that doesn't count whatever happens with the ores I sent to my Jewelcrafter. Very worthwhile, I'd happily pay 180g for one of these. In fact, the mats are about 60 gold on my server, so I'm gonna stock up on some.

I want to try Stonehearth later, the only reason I didn't use it this time is because I'm a tailor and I've seen a few people mention a possible conflict with Scavenging. Given the way they both work, it wouldn't surprise me.

Comentado por Aerolite08

I'm wondering if someone can confirm if they've ever had this effect give them a treasure drop on the same mob they also get an Electrostatic Condenser proc and skin a Strange Bloated Stomach. Maybe it's just my runs with these two things but I'm almost entirely convinced the proc of one is exclusive with the other, with definite favouritism toward the condenser. That is, I think my condenser is eating my mini-treasure procs and going off more often as a result.

Most times I've been out to the Obsidian Forest in TwiLands skinning some 250-300 dragons an hour with one of these potions active and a condenser in my bag. When I'm not using one of these potions I find the condenser usually will proc something like 3 times in 10 kills and then not again for...2 days or so. But with both I'm finding I finish with 8-12 stomachs in my bag by the end and, if I'm super lucky, one treasure.

Does this happen to anyone else that'd tried this combo of skinning, condenser and potion being active while farming?

Comentado por Skadja

Since my last post, I went out tonight on my Tailor Spriest to the Troggs north of Stonehearth. My rogue friend wanted to go out and pickpocket, and it goes faster for him if someone is killing those mobs as they respawn quickly, so I decided it was a good time to go test Potion + Scavenging. We set out (ungrouped) and I was pleased with my results.

I killed 543 mobs and got 27 potions. This is consistent with the 5% drop rate expected. Maybe I just had a lucky run, but I think Scavenging doesn't interfere with the potion, or if it does, that it's probably not the Potion that is affected.

I got 10 stacks of cloth off of the mobs themselves. I don't know whether that's less than should be expected with Scavenging or not, off the top of my head.

But anyway, the treasure chest haul was pretty nice. It is a bit more work than the Eles though. The Eles are seriously mindless farming, with the Troggs, you really have to work your mana/surv CDs and abilities to keep alive and still keep a good killing pace.

The rogue got 77 lockboxes and a few stacks of rogue potions, and never had to stop while mobs were unpickable, so I think we may partner up for this sort of thing again in the future.

Comentado por 102744

I wanted to share my recent experience. I'm an 85 Shadow Priest (so I did single targets only). I was 3-shotting mobs in Uldum, non-stop.

1 hr produced:
128g in greys and cash
10 Tiny Chests
11 Greens (to Disenchant)
201 Embersilk Cloth
9 Volatile Life
4 Volatile Air
3 Volatile Earth
3 Pyrite Ore
4 Elementium Ore

Well worth the 65g I paid for the potion.

Comentado por 307852

For tailors, this potion is a great thing.
While you have to farm humanoid mobs for extra cloth drops (scavenging works in Cata too), you also get these chests with various loot.
After 30 minutes of farming in the restless front I've collected 7 chests. 4 Volatile life, 1 volatile earth, 2 greens, 1 pyrite ore, 3 elementium ore, and more than 10 stacks of cloth. Did not count the money coming from them.

Comentado por Parrky

Best source of gold for these is in fact selling them on the AH!

Comentado por 807349

I'd suggest going to Twilight Highlands and killing water elementals to the west of Dragonmaw Port. In looting water elemntals, there is a significant drop rate of Volatile Water, which really adds up in addition to chests gathered. The only downside is that the elementals are of course level 85, but they spawn very quickly and you should have no trouble killing them one after another with no breaks. In 1 hour I was able to obtain:

From mobs:
84.1452g worth of Grey Items
5 Green Items (28.4621g)
12 Chests
65 Volatile Waters

From chests:
42.8424g
79 Embersilk Cloth
5 Elementium Ore
6 Pyrite Ore
10 Volatile Life
3 Volatile Fire
17 Volatile Water
13 Volatile Earth
1 Green (23.5217g)

You can estimate the total gold for your server depending on AH prices, but for mine (Nagrand), the total was roughly 3,752 gold. Obviously there has been a major boost in chest contents recently, because I can assure you, I checked each chest and counted the items individually and these are the exact number of items that I acquired in this farm run.

Comentado por grahamers

Used a potion today and farmed Water Elementals in TH for 50 minutes. here are the results....

Level 85 Hunter iLvl 354
50 Minutes
211 Kills

TRASH LOOT
======================
165 Crackling Crystals
46 Shimmering Shards
3 Grey Items
TOTAL = ~58g

AH LOOT
=====================
3 Green Armor (~47g in disenchant value)
1 Green Weapon (~59g in disenchant value)
1 Design: Piercing Jasper (~84 on my AH)
46 Volatile Water (~1081g on my AH)
TOTAL = 1,271g

CHESTS (13 Tiny treasure Chests)
=====================
Chests contained:
47g
2 Elementium Ore (~5g on my AH)
3 Volatile Fire (~56g on my AH)
58 Embersilk Cloth (~199g on my AH)
4 Volatile Air (~117g on my AH)
8 Volatile Water (~188g on my AH)
2 Volatile Life (~21g on my AH)
1 Green armor (~16g in disenchant value on my AH)
5 Pyrite ore (~37g on my AH)
4 Volatile Earth (~57g on my AH)
SUBTOTAL FROM CHESTS = 743g
LESS THE COST OF ONE TREASURE FINDING POTION: (-48g on my AH)
TOTAL FROM CHESTS = 695g

GRAND TOTAL FOR 50 MIN FARM = 2024 gold

So, I basically made about 700g extra with the potion over 50 minutes. Seems well worth it when farming mobs. Will test in instances later.

Comentado por 850538

Here are the results of my first potion used. I farmed humanoids in Tol Barad for 1 hour.
I looted: 147 Embersilk Cloth, 10 Tiny Treasure Chests and 4 Greens!
The Chests yielded: 43 Embersilk Cloth, 28 Gold, 5 Volatile Water, 10 Volatile Fire, 4 Volatile Life and 3 Pyrite Ore.
Needless to say I'll be using these more often.

I had to check this out a second time. Same Spot. Here are the results:
225 Embersilk Cloth, 12 Tiny Treasure Chests and 2 Greens.
The Chests yielded: 76 Embersilk Cloth, 40 Gold, 7 Volatile Fire, 4 Volatile Earth, 5 Pyrite Ore and 5 Elementium Ore.

Comentado por 805699

The Restless Front in Tol Barad is a great place for using this potion. Just kill the soldiers at low health, loot, and continue on your way. By the time you get to the end, you can turn around and most, if not all, will have respawned behind you. The only things you have to worry about are other players questing (and taking the mobs), or gankers.

Edit: I did this as a 360 ilvl PvE Frost DK. Spammed Howling Blast on the mobs and got em down quick.

After one hour of farming, this is what I got:

Around 200g just from looting
43g worth of gray loot
9 green items (which I DE'd)
1 Cofre de Elemêntio
86 Tecido de Seribrasa
1 Coração do Vil
16 Pequenino Baú de Tesouro

Upon opening the tiny treasure chests I received:

62g
61 Tecido de Seribrasa
1 green item
2 Terra Volátil
2 Água Volátil
3 Vida Volátil
4 Fogo Volátil
1 Minério de Elemêntio

I will definitely be returning with more potions :)

Comentado por 751416

Anyone try these in the Molten Front yet?

Comentado por Wordsmith

Use: Allows you to sometimes find extra treasure from monsters in Mount Hyjal, Vash'jir, Deepholm, Twilight Highlands and Uldum. Lasts 1 hour. Effect persists through death. (1 Min Cooldown)

I haven't seen any posts at all about this potion + pickpocketing. The tool tip doesn't say anything about what sort of looting is involved (although it may be assumed that death is naturally involved). Also, the word "monster" in this case doesn't rule out humanoids, as stone troggs drop it and they are vaguely humanoid.

I'm curious to know if this potion has the possibility of allowing the snagging of Pequenino Baú de Tesouros on the down low for those of us with larceny in our hearts and a ton of victims in Stonecore (the mindless fanatics all nice and lined up just prior to final boss).

~~I'll give it a shot and report back.~~

Edit: After rigorous testing in The Stonecore and Lorthuna's gate, I can only conclude that either this is not a feature of the potion or I am very very unlucky. It does prove that The Twilight's Hammer is a bunch of drunken, smelly, superstitious, stressed-out, VERY lonely fanatics who don't take care of their toys, if the contents of their pocketses are deemed decent indicators. Many thanks to Azaram for the reminder.

Comentado por Dethra

Farmed Trolls in Deepholm at Stonecrest for 1 hr,

Trash:
67g, 10s
6 Greens
62 Embersilk Cloth
15 Tiny Treasure Chests

From Chests:
5 Pyrite Ore
5 Elementium Ore
1 Volitile Water
10 Volitile Earth
4 Volitile Life
5 Volitile Fire
83 Ember Silk Cloth
4 Greens
61g, 34s

Did this on my lvl 85 Pally, will try other areas and post the breakdown.

Comentado por 858242

Farmed 1h Troggs in Deepholm ( Stonehearth ) , lvl85 Demonology Warlock

Killed 420 Troggs
292 Stone Trogg Berserk ( 7 % droprate for chests )
113 Stone Trogg Geomancer ( 6% droprate for chests )
15 Needlerock Rider ( 25% droprate for chests )

300G ( including selling green items ),
120 Embersilk Cloth,
42 Tiny Treasure Chests

-----------------------------------------------------

From Chests

200 Embersilk Cloths
20 Volatile Life
14 Volatile Water
17 Volatile Fire
11 Volatile Air
18 Volatile Earth
14 Elementium Ore
18 Pyrite Ore

------------------------------------------------------

that was my best run... average i find 30 chests in 1h @ stonehearth . best farming place for good aoe characters

Comentado por 858121

these are completely useless to me, I dont have patience to farm very long though.

But when I am farming volatiles I usually take one, and sometimes I kill 30 mobs without one treasure chest.

I dont know why I barely get any chests. Pretty frustrating killing 30+ mobs and not getting anything extra.

Comentado por corners

In firelands i seemed to get a lot. I still had 30 minutes left and easily got 5 or 6 chests off the fire spiders.

Comentado por Velyanthe

Spent 20 minutes in Tol Barad, got nothing. Went to kill troggs in Deepholm and suddenly they started to drop. Does it not work in TB anymore?

Comentado por 265062

As a priest killing the troggs in Deepholm with the Oracle trinket is pretty nice. I haven't kept track of chest drops before but kept count this last time, I had 28 chests in 1 hour, I just MS away. I usually get about 85 BoEC after an hour. If you use this pot right it can really pay off.

Comentado por Loose

After 1 hour of farming the groups of troggs fighting earthen in Deepholm.

145g 64s 82c
17.25 stacks of embersilk
15 green boes
1 blue boe
37g 87s 22c in greys/trash
38 tiny chests
~~~~~~~~~~~
Chest Contents
~~~~~~~~~~~
131g 24s 66c
9.4 stacks of embersilk
3 green boes
15 pyrite ore
6 elementium ore
6 volatile air
21 volatile earth
5 volatile fire
13 volatile life
7 volatile water
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Overall
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
314g 76s 70c in gold
26.65 stacks of embersilk
18 green boes
1 blue boe
15 pyrite ore
6 elementium ore
6 volatile air
21 volatile earth
5 volatile fire
13 volatile life
7 volatile water

Not too shabby for an hours worth of farming.
BTW 85 Retadin 375 iLvl, I picked up Divine Storm, and used Seal of Righteousness, works wonders.
Posting screens whenever i figure out how O.o

Comentado por darthrich

I should have kept track but using one I circled Needlerock Slag to Stonehearth using AOE spells with my mage I earned 1000g in loot and the AH.... I couldn't believe it. I will keep note next time and report back.

Comentado por 13819

Best use of this potion follows a 3 step process.

1) Have a character capable of good/great AE (Mage or Demo Lock for instance).

2) Go to Deepholm. Due west of the Temple of Earth, there is a battlefield with dwarves and troggs fighting.

3) AoE the trogg packs down for the duration of the potion.

You will wind up with, no joke, about 15 treasure boxes after 15-20 minutes. You WILL need to empty your bags out before the potion expires. Maybe twice.

Comentado por 862991

6 chests in 35 minutes as a Prot war in Tol Barad and Twilight Highland let the remaining time ran out.If it doesnt worth it i dont know what else =)

Comentado por Underlien

For those wanting to get the most out of these potions, I can highly recommend farming the stone troggs between the needlerock slag and stonehearth in deepholm.

On my feral druid I was able to get ablout 45-50 chests in only one hour!

Bring a AOE strong class and you will kill tons of troggs in no time!

Comentado por 785774

note it is possible to get more then just single volatiles out of these chests me and my gf are farming them and she got 5

Comentado por 858648

Confirmed: Potion still works in Tol Barad even though it is not stated in the description.

Comentado por 483422

I suggest we all stop spamming, and just accept that:

- making/buying the potion (btw it doesn't sell on AHs)
- grinding
- <5% ?
- rewards inside

...makes this potion obsolete

Comentado por 19242

Here's some stats from TB in the Rustberg Village, I didn't count how many mobs I looted tho' - sorry :-)

I'm a rogue with tailoring, so there might be a little more Tecido de Seribrasa than normal.

244xTecido de Seribrasa
10xPequenino Baú de Tesouro
17xCaixa de Tralhas Inflamável
6xgreens

The Pequenino Baú de Tesouro contained:
52xTecido de Seribrasa
4xFogo Volátil
5xTerra Volátil
4xÁgua Volátil
5xMinério de Pirita

30g 53s 67c

Hope this is usefull to anyone :-)

Comentado por 813928

Found it to be useful for farming volatile air in Uldum, of the Scions elementals. Not counting the chests, I've noticed that the droprate increased while buffed. Need some more fieldtesting to confirm..
Happy farming :)

Comentado por StaticLgtBrngr

Also works in the molten front, tested it earlier.

Comentado por Mooji

I'm curious to try those Troggs in deepoholm. I'm a tailor spriest(so I'm sure the tailoring adds to the cloth drops), but on average from an hour of farming in the restless front(TB) I get ~15-20 chests, and about 30 total stacks of embersilk(including what I get in the chests). I've also made 500g before in one hour just from enchanting mats while farming, as well as one epic. It's a beast spot, especially if you're on a pve server and don't have to worry about getting ganked.

***Just spent an hour on the Troggs and got the following:
29 chests
19 hypnotic dust(from DEs)
8 lesser celestial essence(from DEs)
24 stacks embersilk
15 volatile fire
8 volatile water
7 volatile earth
4 volatile life
14 elementium
9 pyrite
60 gold from grays, unfortunately idk how much gold I got from looting

All in all that's only an hour of farming so it's hard to tell if it's better than the restless front. It's easier farming, gg mind sear, but it lacks the potential home run epic and idk if you can get the lockboxes in deepholm.

Comentado por 197030

Logged out last night (Monday) in the middle of a treasure finding potion, farming the restless front. Came back this morning after the maintenance window, zeeeero treasure chests from the second half of the potion. Looks like they nerfed farming cloth from the restless front. A moment of silence, please. /sob

Comentado por DennisTheGreat

I love this potion! Always gonna bring some when leveling alts!

Comentado por Ossements

A little economic tip for people selling these: If you can get more from selling the individual herbs than what you're selling the potion for, you're doing it completely wrong.

Comentado por 911690

The best place to use this potion is when farming in deepholm (Needlerock slag) the trogs i make about 1000-1400g in a hour the chests also drop Pyrite ore and elementium ore..Try it and you will see :)

Comentado por 907537

I have used 4 of these and made about 6k gold.......why on EARTH would u put these in the AH for 100g lol u make like 1500g on each one :P:P:P

Comentado por 648677

Not getting crap in Deepholm from the Trogs with this potion.
Every 15th kill I might get a Tiny Treasure and out of 4 of these I've only gotten a little gold and Ember Silk.
Hardly worth my time...

Comentado por 340970

I can save everyone a lot of reading and time by summing this up. This pot increases your gold making by hard farming mobs. This pot DOES NOT make farming mobs the most profitable / easiest thing to do to make money. This pot WILL NOT be profitable if you are just casually killing mobs. If you are farming mobs anyways for a specific item you need or farming because you don't want to buy mats off the AH, pick on of these up on the way out and you'll make some extra gold while you're at it.

Comentado por ryandb2

Farmed with this potion for 1 hour in deepholm.
Cash from mobs - 150g
Cash from junk - 40g
BOE Greens - 13
Embersilk - 91
Lockbox - 1
Pattens - 1

Tiny Treasure - 28
------
Embersilk - 132
Volatile Water - 10
Volatile Fire - 11
Volatile Life - 11
Volatile Earth - 5
Volatile Air - 4
Elementium Ore - 11
Pyrite Ore - 6
BOE Greens - 2
+90g

Probably 600g from the ember silk, 100 from the ores, 200 from the volatiles, and 400 from the greens. The potion cost me 180g, so I still made a pretty good profit from it. All together I will make about 1.5k from the hour, only 700g or so being from the mobs.

Comentado por Kurasu

If you are a person who does a lot of grinding, for instance a tailor who grinds their own cloth, a skinner, or someone who prefers grinding their XP to doing straight-up questing, then this potion is much more valuable used during one of these expeditions than sold. 10 chests will net you an average of around 50g from coin drops alone, while the cloth, ore, and volatiles will give another fair amount. And in a heavy farming session, 10 chests is not an unreasonable number to expect, with 15-20 being quite possible. Potentially even more if one is AOEing fairly low level mobs. All in all, from averages shown above, 250g is not an unreasonable expectation in chest-drops from a hard farming session.

If you are not one who does a lot of grinding, however, or uninterested in a one-hour heavy kill-a-thon, then it is likely worth your time to put the pots up on the AH. They tend to sell on my server for more than the price of the herbs, and I've never had a pot sit for a full 24 hours before it gets snagged. That may be dependent on server, of course; YMMV. However, it's safe to say that unless you are the sort to do a *lot* of killing in an hour, AHing them is much more worth your time than trying to use it and expecting a huge payoff.

Comentado por 931124

Farming 100 Troggs in Needlerock Slag under with pot vs without pot

Gold looted and gold received from trash were virtually identical, roughly 35g per 100 kills; however after opening my four chests, the potion loot was superior by this amount:

10 gold
4 green items (disenchanted for 6 hypnotic dust, 3 lesser celestial essence)
22 embersilk cloth (that's 22 embersilk more than without potion, 40 embersilk total)
2 pyrite ore
2 elementium ore
3 volatile air

And these are some of the poorer chests that I've looted. Depending on how fast you kill and what your AH market is like, loot with the potion can be worth your time for easy mat farming.

Comentado por 150843

Only getting 6-7 an hour in Uldum while farming volitile air and embersilk, but the embersilk and air drops are higher there than anywhere else.

Comentado por guuluoth

I just spent an hour killing the spirit mobs in Uldum and ended up with ONE chest! However, when I use them on my main, I've always gotten 10-15 chests. Has the drop rate been lowered or maybe just really bad luck....

Comentado por 938138

After trying out many places, I finally found a great place to use the potion of treasure finding: at coordinates 60,30 in Twilight Highlands on the Obsidian Slaves. In one hour, I obtained 18 treasure chests, plus many mats, counting the ones I got from disenchanting the greens obtained. I received 38 Volatile Earths from the slaves and more in the chests, 78 embersilk cloths (counting the ones in the treasure chests) and much more. Altogether, I made out with about 650 gold worth of mats, plus additional gold obtained from the treasure chests and looted from the humanoids that accompanied some of the slaves. Not bad for a potion that cost me 65 gold.

Comentado por Woag

Tried one of these for the first time today at the notion of a guildie.
I farmed Troggs in Deepholm near Needlerock Slag:

Net Gains are as follows:
35 Treasure Chests-
Contents included:
2 even stacks of Pyrite Ore
2 even stacks of Elementium Ore
45 Volatile Life
13 Volatile Earth
12 Volatile Water
7 Stacks of Embersilk Cloth
~175g

From the Mobs themselves:
700~ Gold from straight Silver Drops
150 Gold from Gray Items
25 Green Items total
9 Stacks of Embersilk Cloth

Based on current AH prices on my server:
Total net gain sans costs of flask (Roughly 100g at cost of mats) ~3,500g

Comentado por TheRealLink

Just gave this a shot for an hour at the Trogg spot in Deepholm, got 85 gold from all the silver loot from the mobs and the following:

19 Treasure Chests
3+ stacks of Embersilk Cloth
A few greens and other junk.
Not bad.

The chests gave:
~75 Gold
Lots of 10s of Embersilk Cloth (nice)
Half a stack of Elementium Ore and almost a full stack of Pyrite
A small amount of Volatiles (Life and Fire)

If you're focused on killing things pretty fast, I can at least see this making up for the cost of the potion though this is on Terenas and YMMV.

Comentado por 940913

i will have to add my own (386 blood-tank dk) finding about use of this potion @ Pale Roost (dragons) here:

30 minutes of farming yielding me 10 chests:

53 embersilk = 106 gold (underpriced atm)
39,37 gold
26 volatiles spread over all 5 species, estimated for at least 50g
4 pyrite ores
1 green item for d/e

the gold from the chest solely (39,37*2 = 78,74) makes up for the cost of the potion @ ah, being 75 gold
the rest is pure win (also the fact that my alt made the pot under ah-price)

this is ofc without the loot the dragons give me by normal loot + skinning, i estimate the profit @ 1000+ gold/hour at lowest

Comentado por Metalchic

does anyone know if these work inside the dungeons in the mentioned zones?

Comentado por protosega

Its a nice spend money to make money item.

Comentado por 677391

This is also really good item to have if you want to gather a bunch of different trade goods (cloth, ores, volatiles, and leather/scales) all at the same time instead of farming each one separately. This kind of farming is good for stocking up guild banks, or your own personal bank. :) True story.

-Scylliar

Comentado por 910654

These do work in the cata dungeons, but the best way to make use of em is to farm large groups of fast respawning mobs. I don't remember reading anything about a nerf, but I've noticed a dramatic decrease in the amount of loot in the chests in the past week. Embersilk now dropping like 2-4 per chest, I used to get 10 or so per chest + some volatiles.

Comentado por featalene

I just tried one of these for the first time with no apreciable results for skinning. After an hour I had within the margin of error the same amount of leather I would have had without it. The only thing I got unusual was a (only one) tiny treasure box. I was in the Twilight Highlands.

Would be nice if they worked elsewhere to up the chance at zone drops. :)

Comentado por 911568

not sure if i'm the only one but when i used this i only got TWO treasure chests in one hour

Comentado por kryptrix

I have constructed a simpler formula to find out this potions worth.

C = Cost of Potion (Cost potion is to make/ buy)
G = Gold Made (Gold from chests + gold made from auction house)
Worth = Worth

G-C=Worth

Bought a Potion myself to try this formula out.

C = 92 gold (from ah)
G = 185.88.54 (gold from chests + potential gold from ah)

185.88.54 - 92 = 93.88.54

232 corpses
10 boxes
4.31%chance
w = 10 boxes
1 - 6 cloth | 1.88.80
2 - 2 elementium | 4.03.21
3 - 8 cloth | 4.77.43
4 - 4.52.48
5 - Mereldar Amulet of the Whale | 3.94.89
6 - 4.58.83
7 - 3 earth | 3.51.44
8 - 10 cloth | 4.38.84
9 - 4.22.96
10 - 8 cloth | 4.43.89

Total from boxes:
32 cloth = 136g ah (4.25g each)
2 elementium = 2.40g (1.70g each)
Mereldar Amulet of the Whale = 6.55.77 vendor
g = 40.32.77
3 earth = 60 silver (20s each)
total = 185.88.54

worth= 93.88.54

So in conclusion I made almost 94g 100% profit! I managed to kill 232 things in 1 hour and get 10 boxes that is a 4.31% drop rate of the boxes for me. FYI I'm a max level elemental shaman with semi raid gear that killed mainly level 80 crabs in vash for an hour. I wouldn't recommend farming this way unless you are farming leather. You can make a small extra gold with this but you'd have to farm straight for an hour with no slacking! Hardly worth the little bit of extra gold you get out of it. Now of course it may be cheaper if you buy the mats for the potion on your server. But in my case I just made 94 g from mainly the cloth that came out of the boxes.

Comentado por 956216

I just farmed with one of these, cost about 60g in mats to make as an alchemist. I tried the Trogg spot in Deepholm like many here advised. I probably farmed for around 50 minutes of the hour and here's what I came away with:

Silver Drops and Trash Sales:
6 Stacks of Embersilk:
9 Green Gear:

19 Chest's dropped and from these:

An additional:..
5 Stacks of Embersilk:
5 Pyrite Ore:
10 Volatile Fire:
10 Volatile Air:

So thats a total of just over 2k, for just under an hour. If your farming the area, its worth picking up one of these, will double your embersilk along with everything else.

Im still not sure if the treasure chests are the only benefit to these, or maybe they increase the amount of loot dropped aswell.

Edit: Ive used these quite a few times now, and I like them most because their fun, read around theres a chance the chests contain something rarer and along with some blue gear once today I looted the pattern: Formula: Enchant Bracer - Mighty Intellect, nice suprise!

Comentado por Petal

I've been trying to farm Escama Abissal and hadn't had much luck in Vash'jir... so I consulted Wowhead and the comments pointed me towards Caranguejo-rei... so I hearthed and flew to Feralas.

I had about 3 minutes left on my Potion of Treasure Finding, and on the 5th kill, with about 20 seconds to spare, a Tiny Treasure Chest dropped. Wondering if it was a fluke, I decided to go ahead and drink another one.

I can confirm they drop from both Grande Roca and Caranguejo-rei in the Steam Pools area of Feralas. My drop rate was pretty minimal (7 in one hour), so no idea if it's affected by the fact that it isn't in one of the tool tip areas.

Comentado por Lyandria

Killed Trogg Berserk de Pedra and Geomante Trogg de Pedra in deepholm for exactly two hours with this potion, got:

10x lvl 79 greens ~ 2500g (250g each, for leveling chars that wants to play dungeons right away they hit 80, they pay good and so do I when leveling chars)
12x lvl 80 greens ~ 1740g (145g each, same as above, just that ppl like 79 so they can pwn last level in wotlk, that's why you get more gold for lvl 77-79 greens)
13x lvl 81 greens ~ Disenchanted these, 81's are not worth that much, got:
- 8x Essência Celestial Maior ~ 400g
- 2x Essência Celestial Inferior ~ 20g
- 14x Pó Hipnótico ~ 6g

2x blue items ~ 500g ( Botinas Firmes & Perneiras Sombranosas )
1x Cofre de Elemêntio ~ 36g and a green
About 180 gold
25x Minério de Elemêntio ~ 50g
31x Minério de Pirita ~ 70g
559x Tecido de Seribrasa ~ 2430g
13x Ar Volátil ~ 130g
32x Terra Volátil ~ 5g
23x Fogo Volátil ~ 57g
32x Vida Volátil ~ 16g
18x Água Volátil ~ 54g

In total gold I got: 8194g

The potion costs 90g and I bought two of these on ah.
The embersilk you get in these treasure chests are very good amount, only the embersilk makes all this worth.
This is a good farming place, not a farmer myself, I just felt like farming and see how good this potion is.
And now I know, it's good, but not for me, I earn more gold by playing with auction house in this time I spent on farming, but it was interesting nontheless! :)

Here's a screenshot of my inventory: http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7739/farm123.png
Here is where I farmed: http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg404/scaled.php?server=404&filename=farmedhere.png&res=landing
Updated last picture, saw that I had circle it an inch wrong

Last note: Don't know how many treasure chests I got, but doesn't matter, I got tons of them, TONS, it is a good potion, I would never go farm cata stuff without it.
Also I know this isn't 100% related to this potion, I just wanted to give a farming tip/experience with this potion together with a good farming spot.
I play on outland realm, therefor you can't judge the prices for what I sold everything for, it's different from realm to realm.
Farmed between 8:00-10:00, did only see 2 alliance players while I was farming at this hour, they were not in the way at all.

Good luck farming! :)

EDIT: Farmed for an hour recently again, felt bad that I didn't have a number of the chests, although now I have.
Got 44x Pequenino Baú de Tesouro in an hour

Comentado por 967482

i have been wondering do the potion work when looting or when you kill something for example i kill 20 mobs while under the potions effect but it wears off before i can loot them do lose the chance at getting the potion then and if i do can i then do something like kill 20 mob then use the potion and then have a chance at looting so my question is simply do the effect get added when a mob dies or when its looted?
ps sorry if my post is hard to understand its my first comment on wowhead

Comentado por 755942

I use these potions farming Embersilk cloth in Needlerock Chasm in Deepholme. In 1 hour, I get between 420 and 480 cloth pcs, which include the contents of all treasure chests. The number of chests have varied a lot for me, I've had anywhere from 20 to 40 chests per hour. Oh yeah, and i'm a fire mage too, so pulling 3+ packs at a time is no problem for me (396 i level) ; P

Comentado por 572872

So far they've been totally worth it for me. I pay about 180g for the potion and easily get the money back just from the embercloth I find (which typically goes for 60-80g per stack on AH). Typically after the hour is done I end up about 600g richer from selling the mats that come off the mobs and in the chests.

My chosen area of farming is the Verall River in the Twilight Highlands plus the surrounding houses. The potion actually works very well in conjunction with the Thundermarr daily quests, because you have to kill a number of nasty dwarves to do them, and then you can keep killing around the river and houses for more drops, and turn in the quests for more gold after the hour is done.

Comentado por 535530

Well, for one hour's work in Deephome at the Troggs (wish I'd counted the gold from looting and greys but I did not)

40 chests-
(11 stacks of Embersilk Cloth, 30 pyrite, 10 elelmentium, 90 volatiles and 1 green, 160 gold)
13 greens
8 stacks of Embersilk cloth

I was very happy with those numbers.

Comentado por insaneblade

i have farmed Mainly troggs the Bersk/Geo ones as a prot pally i have neted 49 chest at night mainly when i'm alone really comes down to KS if ya can AOE mobs in 5-15 secs you can rock away & mass amount chest.

another good spot if your Really geared & good is the troggs at top Right of the map in deepholm theres a spot where they runing right above has hundreds of troggs with a 10 second respawn you can pull 10-30 behind the rock at the end of the ledge AOE/Safly loot enless you have a healer with you & your a Tank/DPS like a mage/lock you could prolly net like 1k+ kills an hour at this spawn. just be warned 99% them mobs go into a Hard bersrk mode & can hit hard.

Also if your 83 & lvling this is a easy way to Make cash & lvl i was netting 2mil-3mil xp per hour as a Demo lock.

mages/locks/ele shammy & prot pallys can Kill the troggs like cake if your prot just constantly use your AOE Assist taunt on the Mobs that have the most aggro & they all pile on you makes it so easy.

Comentado por JASP01

So, as of 4.3 (today actually-- just now), I spent my first hour using this in Western Deepholm with all the huge trogg packs.

I got (not including greys/straight gold):

21x Tiny Treasure Chest
19x Random Greens
~157 Embersilk Cloth (I -think- I didn't have any on me; no more than 2 stacks)

I did this as a Survival Hunter, so I had a ton of AoE DPS, and although I wasted a couple of minutes in the beginning, I quickly learned to attack only groups that had more than 3.

I payed 160g for the potion... -Definitely- still worth it

Edit: I completely miscounted. I got about 13-15 stacks of Embersilk cloth. I ended up getting 1200g just from that alone.

Comentado por Tohuvabohu

So basically this is worth it only if you can AoE the mobs quickly, or if say, your alt makes the potions for free :-)

Comentado por pyrosvegeta

these dont work in dungeons or raids. only in certain areaas of the world as listed on potion tooltip plus tol barad.

Comentado por 914751

Keep in mind, Even if you do not find enough chests to cover the price of the potion (although you do.) This potion is still profitable, Because it keeps you farming so that the potion doesn't go to waste :)

Comentado por burkhardts

@ Omnishinzui
thanks a bunch for finding that out!

Comentado por Valeor3838

Does it work with Herbalism?

Comentado por 910174

These have been nerfed to the point of useless. The drop rate has been lowered so much, they might as well have just removed this completely from the game rather than let people waste an hour of their time trying.

Comentado por wolframwow

IF 2 players have the potion activated, and they stay in party, and 1 of them loots EVERYTHING on the mobs, he might get the treasure chests but the other player won't unless he will loot before the other does. If the 2 players are in party, and 1 kills for the other which has the potion he will definitely get treasure chests (depends on the drop chance). The WISEST way to use the potion is either to kill solo, either someone kills mobs for you, either you are in dungeons/raids and you are the only one who uses the potion. WATCH OUT! Only 1 party/raid member can loot the chests!
I've tested this, and i killed mobs with someone in party, and we got about 750 gold from sales for each after using the potion. Good luck everyone!

Comentado por Exodarian

Does this benefit everyone in the party? Since I have a Priest and Shadow sucks for farming compared to like a Death Knight for Embersilk in Deepholm. So I could have someone else kill everything while I loot it :P.

Comentado por awskar

I've been using this while farming Owls, Hippogryphs, wolves, and elk in Twilight Highlands. Very good skinning spot if you keep your pace up. Unfortunately I think using these potions while skinning reduces the usefullness a lot just because of the downtime of skinning. I'd just about break even or make 100g or less from these potions most of the time. There was once where I actually lost gold by using one, but overall I made gold. Now the prices have jumped up on my server and I don't think I will even bother with them anymore. I also don't like the feeling of being half way through a potion and still not having made my gold back, only to grind through it for almost nothing.

Comentado por 1018665

Found one from Sealed Crate fished from Darkmoon Faire.

Comentado por Aadramelekh

From my experience, the Stone Trogg Berserkers in Deepholm seem to be the most profitable to farm when under the effect of this potion. One hour of farming these as a Bear tank (very fast, AoE groups of 10-15 at a time) resulted in:

* ~50g looted
* 25 Treasure Chests
* 15 green items
* 6 Embersilk Cloth stacks
* ~56g gold from selling trash

Opening those 25 chests, I got:

* ~80g looted
* 20 Elementium Ore
* 7 Embersilk Cloth stacks
* 2 green items
* 1 blue ring
* 3-5 of each volatile earth, fire, water, air, life

For 40g per potion, I can definitely say it is worth it, haha.

Happy farming!

Comentado por Hotnhordey1

After my first run with my blood dk ilvl383 I got
230g off mobs
232 embersilk
8 greens
9 elementium
10 pyrite
6 vol fire
3 vol water
9 vol life
2 vol earth
25g in trash items
total after opened chests which was around 25 paid 15g for potion

Comentado por Pops715

Wow.....have they nerfed these potions down? Just used one and after one hour of killing random mobs in Uldum I got:

4 Green items
6 Gray items
no treasure chests

I mean, without the potion, I probably would have gotten those greens and grays anyway. What gives? I've used them there before and have always gotten at least 4 or 5 treasure chests.

Comentado por 964766

I was able to loot 63 tiny treasure chests in one hour in the Verlok stand. I'm a protection warrior with the talent Bladestorm. I had to use Souldrinker in conjunction with Bladestorm because without it I would die due to lack of healing. While using Bladestorm with Souldrinker incoming damage and healing are about equal, this way I could easily handle 20 or more Verlok's at a time and kill them in about 10 seconds. While waiting on the CD I was still able to kill Verlok's with the use of Impending Victory to keep my health up.

Comentado por BadDPS

This works in the 85 version of Theramore's Fall scenario.

Comentado por 1041922

Doesn't work anymore in Tol Barad area, which is really a pity. I am all depressed as I was using it there to get my volatils
and extras. Too bad Blizzard.

PS I tried it in Deepholm and Hyjal : two poor tiny treasure chests in 1 hour ...

Comentado por 142762

If anyone is wondering the MoP equivelant of this potion is Poção Maior da Sorte.

Comentado por 47481

So, decided to try this on my shaman today, to see whether what people have been saying is true or not.

So, I did 1 hour session, with the potion on, as a tailor.

I ended up with 13 greens, 55 volatiles (various), 18 elementium ore, 7 pyrite ore, 374 in gold from greys and looting, and 118 BOLTS of embersilk (590 embersilk cloth).

Totally worth farming. (I did the troggs around needlerock slag. Wish there was a place like this for frostweave.

PS... Please remember to report all the bots you see. I was competing with 5 bots on this day. It makes for terrible game environment.

Comentado por 1112953

All of my guildies told me that this potion was not worth getting and was just a waste of time. I still went ahead and bought the potion, and when I used it at level 89, I made 300g, plus about 150 volatiles plus 420 embersilk cloth and 12 greens. I bought the potion for 85g. I think it was well worth it! :D

Comentado por skye12

The Needle Rock Chasm in Deepholm has been changed, in which patch I am not sure, but there are no more trogs there. Does anyone know of another fast farming area like that one?

Comentado por kitikiki

Level 90 Affliction Warlock - 1 hour under the effect of Poção para Achar Tesouros. AoEing Trogg Berserk de Pedra and Geomante Trogg de Pedra in Deepholm.

600-700g including gold from Pequenino Baú de Tesouros

6 x stacks of scraps etc
28 x grey items

22 x stacks of Tecido de Seribrasa
54 x Pequenino Baú de Tesouros
19 x green items
Desenho: Jaspe Relampejante
Encantamento de Agilidade - Braçadeiras

D/E'd green items -
23 x Essência Celestial Inferior
18 x Pó Hipnótico

Opened treasure chests -

28 x Minério de Pirita
13 x stacks Tecido de Seribrasa
3 x green items
19 x Fogo Volátil
16 x Água Volátil
23 x Ar Volátil
9 x Vida Volátil
31 x Terra Volátil
29 x Minério de Elemêntio

d/e 2 Essência Celestial Inferior and 3 Pó Hipnótico

Comentado por 1013194

The best spot Is Deepholm And its bull !@#$ that people say it got changed.You need to go to Verlok stand , That's where all the level 83 Verlok Shroomtender and Verlok Grubthumper are, they look like trogs there at about 68. 25. cords. Just did it today With a level 90 Arms Warrior, Gear level 477. With Bladestorm and second Wind. I make my own Potion of Treasure FindingPotion . Don't for get about the 2 groups on the top ledge. It gives a little time for the bottoms to pop back up. The trogs take less then 45 secs to pop back up.

Run Number 1
607g from looting, vendor trash and selling a unknown number of green gear.
30 Stacks of Embersilk Cloth.
51 Tiny Chests.

From the Chests I got!
176g Only from the chests
13 stacks Embersilk Cloth.
29 Volatile Life
14 Volatile Earth
10Volatile Water
15 Volatile fire
14 Volatile Air
1 Elememtium Lock box
21Elememtium Ore
24 Pyrite Ore

Run Number 2 I did not sell my Green gear like the first one
369g from looting and selling the vendor trash.
10 Stacks of Embersilk Cloth.
24 green gear
1 blue gear
2 JC pats
47 Tiny Chests.

From the Chests I got!
160g
12 stacks Embersilk Cloth.
8 Volatile Life
15 Volatile Earth
17 Volatile Water
25 Volatile fire
13 Volatile Air
2 green gear
21 Elememtium Ore
20 Pyrite Ore

For a Total Of 2 runs, 2 hours farming
1312g
98 Tiny Chests.
65 Stacks of Embersilk Cloth.
37 Volatile Life
29 Volatile Earth
27 Volatile Water
40 Volatile fire
27 Volatile Air
1 Elememtium Lock box
42 Elememtium Ore
44 Pyrite Ore
26 green gear I did not sell
1 blue gear I did not sell
2 JC pats
Anyone can do this. Buy or make a Potion of Treasure Finding, With a Potion of deepholm < this will port you to deepholm. Not needed but does help.

Please upvote if this helped you.Thank you and have a good time, Make sure to play some fast paced toons to get you pumped, Or you may drag ass and not get all that you could have.

Comentado por Jonae

Currently path 5.4 will be coming out shortly. Now what does this mean for everyone farming the Troggs while under the potion effects?

I was reading through the 5.4 patch notes and found this tidbit under the Creatures section.

"Stone Trogg Berserker now drops trivial items and can no longer be pickpocketed.
Stone Trogg Geomancer now drops trivial items and can no longer be pickpocketed."

For those still farming furiously. I would bank all your ilvl 78-79 greens and Embersilk cloth. With the loss of this easy farming spot, I would predict that over the course of the next few months the price will jump due to people leveling alts with tailoring and first aid.

Comentado por Catoria

One hour potion on a Demonology 90 lock. I must have missed the part where they nerfed the drop rate UP. Last time, the tiny treasure boxes were far and few between. This time? Thirty-two. One group yielded four. I know, because I darn near went into shock when I saw it happen.

I looted 154G, and sold 41G worth of vendor trash after the run. I got thirteen greens, and one "Enchant Bracer: Agility," which would be worth a nice chunk of change had I not just dropped herbalism to pick up enchanting. :)

I'm a tailor, so I looted what wound up being 78 bolts, plus four cloth.

I had a 6g repair bill.

Now for the contents of the tiny treasure boxes.

120g
129 embersilk cloth
18 volatile life
10 volatile air
10 volatile fire
4 volatile water
10 elementium ore
6 pyrite ore
1 green.

All in all, not too shabby for one hour.

Comentado por 597179

Hey all i saw some of the comments about this being nerfed down and changes coming in newest mop patch. So i took out one of my toons to test.

Things to note: I took my tailor- She is a 85 lock with mop gear / archaeology 450 items.
I drank the pot at the ledge in deepholm like everyone suggested in the past. I killed 20 to 30 mobs. The loot is indeed now incidental. I got less then a gold for all of them. no items, even grey.

I then went to TB- based off of someones old post. I killed assorted mobs on the island. Sailors, ghosts, etc
.
What i found was Rustberg Village..specifically the fishing Taurens on the dock. Their spawn rate was fairly quick, you could work one side of the dock go to the other and go back and forth without really stopping (you may stop with higher dps). Im not sure when i decided to start in the potions duration but i can tell you i did not get a chest to drop until 34 min in. After that i stayed on those mobs and hunted them. And got one about every 5 to 6min. My take was 6 chests in basically 25min.

I can also tell you i killed over 250 mobs. I had the DMF quest for grizzly trophies. And it was at 0 at the start. So if you want to do some estimates and theories ..one chest in 30 kills or about every 5 min.

Chests didnt seem to drop as much items inside:
3g on average per chest.
(sorry dont know the specifics on cloth id guess about a stalk and half)
Total for other items in chests was
1 water, 4 air, 3 earth
2 Pyrite ore, 2 Elementium ore.

However from just farming for cloth there as a tailor i got close to 18 stacks.

Hope this helps.

Comentado por starman

Level 90 mage. I had no idea this was nerfed.

I went to my usual spot in Needlerock in Deepholme and after 15 minutes I got no chests, no greens, nothing except a little gold from each group.

Last run I did with this in 5.3, I got enough greens and gold and cloth to make about 12 Embersilk Bags.

So yeah, this was nerfed.

Moved to Hyjal for 5 minutes, nothing.

Twilight Highlands for 10 minutes, nothing.

Question is: was this nerfed for characters over 85? The mobs were still green to me, not gray. I'm just trying to figure out why this still sells for 100g on my server and it's completely useless.

Comentado por Dragonarcher

This post is being posted because i reacted to the previous person about one of my favorite places to farm with this item is in Twilight Highlands that has been nerfed. The nerf itself must have only happened to your server only, because just as my previous hours with this potion, i am still getting the same amount of everything as ever even in patch 5.4.

I am aswell a level 90 mage Tailor.

Farming Spot (Twilight highlands, killing ogres in groups)

The first 10 minutes of the potion gave me the following

* 100 gold in trash/boxes
* 13 Boxes
* 3 Greens
* 13 Stacks of embersilk cloth

The remaining 50 minutes of the potion gave me the following

* 485 gold in trash/boxes
* 34 Boxes
* 22 Greens (5 From all boxes together)
* 58 Stacks of embersilk cloth

Basically 1 hour gave me

* 585 Gold
* 47 Boxes
* 22 Greens
* 71 Stacks of embersilk cloth

There are some volatiles and such things that the boxes contain aswell (ore, etc)

If anyone that reads this wants proof of this, i will gladly make a video, since ill be spending a few more hours to use up the remaining potions.

Thank you

Comentado por 1222164

Worthless in 5.4. Don't waste any mats making them. Don't waste your time when you could be doing something else. Just vendor any you might have.

Comentado por stacyeLeigh

This was my first trip thru Uldum with an Alchemy toon and I checked here first about the potion. Didn't sound good. I thought "Oh well I had to make it to level, so why not" I don't know what it did before but I can tell you I picked up quite a bit of Embersilk cloth and a few handfuls of the tiny treasure chest. Each chest had about 3-5gold. My advice would be: "If you have it, use it." Who doesn't like to see "Tiny Treasure Chest" fall into their bags for free.

Comentado por Rynii

I decided to try one of these while farming embersilk cloth in Tol Barad Peninsula with my lvl 90 assassination rogue tailorer. The potion cost me 100 gold on the AH. I farmed Soldado Inquietos & Infantaria Inquieta for the full hour (with very little downtime, the respawn is fairly quick) and looted 20 Pequenino Baú de Tesouros and 493 pieces of Tecido de Seribrasa.

Inside the chests, I gained an additional 113 Tecido de Seribrasa as well as 82 gold, a green that vendored for 6 gold, 14 Ar Volátil, 11 Fogo Volátil, 8 Vida Volátil, 5 Água Volátil, 4 Terra Volátil, 8 Minério de Pirita, and 4 Minério de Elemêntio. Since I made 88 gold back, I only spent 12 net gold on the potion - 12 gold for a nice cache of volatiles/ores to sell on the AH and an increase in my cloth-farming efficiency by around 25%. Not a huge profit, but still worth it in my opinion.

Comentado por Minetje

I'm not sure if it's mentioned in any of the 181 posts on this subject but does anyone know if this potion works in the 5man instances in Uldum ?

The potion's tooltip states : Use: Allows you to sometimes find extra treasure from monsters in Mount Hyjal, Vashj'ir, Deepholm, Twilight Highlands and Uldum. Lasts 1 hour. Effect persists through death. (1 Min Cooldown)

It doesn't seem to have any " indoor / outdoor " restrictions but on the other hand , Blizzard doesn't have a reputation for being clear and / or consistant when it comes to tooltips or telling in detail how stuff works ;-)

Anyone ever test it in a dungeon and if so , did it work ?

-- edit --

I gave it a try and though the drop of Tiny Treasure Chests is a bit disapointing , just 3 in a full Vortex Pinnacle run , the potion does seem to work in Uldum instances

--edit--

I did 5 runs now on normal difficulty and the low drop of chests seems just bad luck that first try . The runs I did after the first one were much better with drops between about 6 and 9 per run wasn't that bad .
They gave me a lot of cloth , a full stack of Pyrite Ore total , a couple of random green patterns / designs , some Elementium Ore and the usual gold and random green items

Comentado por trevkno2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLNE22rrzL0

This is a video I made of myself running Grim Batol on normal. I used a potion of treasure finding and show all of my loot at the end which includes several chests and stacks of cloth.

Comentado por Lilus

Here to report that as of July 30th, 2014 that The Restless Front in Tol Barad is still an extremely decent spot to farm with one of these potions. Did this on a discipline priest with enchanting/tailoring. One hour netted me the following:

117 gold looted
Tiny Treasure Chest x25
Embersilk Cloth x598
Ruined Embersilk x 59
Vendor Trash Gear x11
Elementium Lockbox x1
Uncommon Gear x9
Slots of misc. trash x5 (low level food, animal parts, ect)

Now on my server the gear is a bit of a tough sell since none of what dropped is overly sought after for transmog. As a result I went ahead and had it all broken down into enchanting mats. Once the chests were opened and the trash sold the final tally (not counting the lockbox) was:

250 gold total (chests/loot/trash)
Embersilk Cloth x723
Pyrite Ore x15
Elementium Ore x5
Volatile Life x4
Volatile Fire x8
Volatile Water x21
Volatile Air x9
Volatile Earth x6
Hypnotic Dust x15
Greater Celestial Essence x6

If you want a solid number then the final tally in raw mats and collected gold is 2.9K gold in an hour (using the current prices from the Alliance AH for Borean Tundra/Shadowsong)

Original price of the potion on my AH was 135. Overall not a bad investment at all!

Comentado por Nueve

Confirmed this works in Cataclysm Normal and Heroic dungeons.

Comentado por Lilus

Got a bit more to add. Grim Batol on normal is quite possibly the BEST place to use one of these potions. As always it's ideal to go with a tailor/enchanter. Granted anyone can do this but you can make a killing by turning the cloth and dust into Embersilk Bags.

The key here is quick runs and minimal boss encounters. Just prior to the hallway leading to the final boss remove your gear and suicide into the trench in the middle of the hallway. Enter GB to get your body, leave, reset and then re-equip for another run. Even if you aren't that great at clearing quickly or are playing a class that has trouble doing so you can easily run GB three times in an hour.

As always server economy will determine how much you make. On most servers however this is an easy 2-3K per hour if you make and sell bags.

Comentado por 1001036

I can confirm that this works in raids as well now, looted a few boxes from BoT.

Comentado por Bumfuzz

1 chest from 35 minutes of farming. Has it been nerfed?

Comentado por 748434

I'm thinking this has been nerfed while using it in grim batol.. used to get a ton of chests and now i get about 2-3 per hr runs and seems to be consistent =[

Edit: for some odd reason, blizzard has been working against me until now.. finally got 11 to drop in an hr.. so i think it was just a streak of pure bad luck =/

Comentado por Dragonarcher

Hence this is outside any dungeon, and a farm place ive been farming for many years, the place in twilight highlands (The Twilight Gate), right under BOT "Killing the grps of ogres".

The Farming itself is as same as ever, sometimes lucky, sometimes extremely lucky.
I decided to go try this place once again since because of the rumors of a nerf inside a dungeon, so wanted to see if it has changed anything outside in the world.

If you would like for me to make a confirmation/proof video, id be happy to do so.
In one hour using this potion, here is what my total drop was.

88x Tiny Treasure Chests
31x Green Items
4x Elementium Lockboxes
913 Gold from both trash and opening chests
2404x Embersilk cloth.

Thanks

Comentado por mnaylor89

As other have said this item appears to have been nerfed quite a lot in dungeons at least. I cannot see any notice of this in any patch notes but I have done some testing and it certainly seems this way. I have tested 10 potions in the last week in Gim Batol and after 10 runs each hour I was lucky to get 10-15 chests (I only got 5 from 10 runs from 1 of the potions). Previously I was getting 3 times this at least.

This does not appear to have been nerfed outside of dungeons however I am currently still searching for a spot that has a good enough spawn rate to make using it worth while. Though even just travelling round the dailies area in TH and the ogre area below BOT the drop rate was noticeably higher (around a 1 in 20 chance of the chest dropping). Many of the old spots in Uldum, Deepholm and Twilight highlands have been nerfed a while back.

As this potion tends to sell for around 200 - 300 gold on my server it appears to no longer be worthwhile buying one to use in Grim Batol. I have not tested it in other Cataclysm dungeons yet however I assume it will be the same, I will test them after Christmas and update this comment if it is any different in Stonecore etc.

The above being said Grim Batol is still a viable farming spot for cloth and greens (3 - 4k an hour depending on how fast you can run it) but for now at least it is probably better not to use the potion unless you can get them cheap or make your own.

Comentado por Dragonarcher

This new post is a reply to the user Bundfalke with a video proof of me gaining the full amount of embersilk cloth, gold and green items within the 60minute time period of Potion Of Treasure Hunting.
This video isnt edited in anyway (to prevent me from cheating, and by cheating i mean editing) so its a clean 60min straight through, theres also no sound (i play wow without sound and listen to music)

Do remember that i sometimes stand still because im either answering a phone or opening a door but it should only last for a few seconds at time.

Started coming here with 13 Silver and 24x Embersilk cloth, after the full hour i left with a total of

2266 Embersilk Cloth
970 Gold
37x Green items (33x from monster drops, and the other 4 from tiny chests)
and the rest of the stuff, disenchanted, elementium boxes

Do remember that if u decide to skip tru the video till the 60 minute mark where the counting starts, you can see that i already have disenchanted mats, this was to make sure that i gain extra room for more green drops since i wanted to count how many i can get within the 60minute mark from only monster drops, then the opening of chests. Link to Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLhbOd-Jcik&feature=youtu.be

Comentado por Dragonarcher

Decided to try Grim Batol with the 60 minutes Potion of treasure hunting.

Heres what i got, id say its alot less with the boxes, but heck of alot more in the green items.

66x Green Items (1 Item from the box) ------> Disenchanting gave me 120x Hypnotic dust (20x cost 300-400g here)
680 Gold
5x Elementium Boxes
1186x Embersilk Cloth ----------> (3000g worth)
20x Tiny Treasure Chests
1x Epic necklace

All in all gold wise for one hour lands around 5500 Gold.

Feel free to suggest any other places you want me to try and use the potion of treasure finding, any other raid or dungeon is just fine, thanks.

Comentado por llubtoille

Seems to work fairly well on firelands trash, about a dozen per clear plus a good chunk of gold and vendor trash.
Just avoid encountering Shannox (who begins roaming while killing mobs) as so long as you don't kill any bosses you can reset by stepping outside and toggling the difficulty between normal/heroic/mythic.
Also a vendor right at the entrance.

Comentado por Oznerolt

These potions are still a good idea if you want to run cata raids/dungeons. Especially if chain pull everything, only then use the potion, zerg everything down and loot.
Reset instance, for fast and great results :D

Comentado por Wartsi

I just tried this on Firelands trash.

I did 2-3 pulls and pulled basically everything except for trash before the individual bosses, as well as the groups around the Lava pools in front of Baleroc.
I'm a 706 itemlvl prot warrior, but it still started to hurt a bit when there's a lot hitting me.

Anyway, I vendored all greys and greens(I wouldn't recommend the latter, if you got a enchanter; disenchant it instead.
2510g(trash and items)
20 Pyrite Ore
315 Embersilk Cloth
41 Volatile Life
26 Volatile Earth
29 Volatile fire
28 Volatile water
33 Volatile Air
31 Elementium Ore
11 Elementium Lockboxes.

I haven't opened the lockboxes yet(no rogue alt) but they have 30-50g in them+ greens, so about 500g in those.

All in all, I guess about 4-5k depending on server economy. At current saleprice on my server it's 5200g.

I also tried Potion of Luck in Heart of Fear, but I think this is far better. Mobs are easier to kill and doesn't hit as hard.
I hope you could use this.

Comentado por Macmagotty

NOTA BENE: Since Legion went live, although alchemists who learned the recipes before Legion may still create them, Potion of Treasure Finding (Cata) and Potion of Luck (MoP) no longer can be used. They are (at best) vendor trash. It is likely they will be removed from the game completely during BfA.

Although, in 4.0.6, there was a short-lived increase in the drop-rate of Pequenino Baú de Tesouro, the drop-rate was nerfed hard in 4.1.0.

Since 4.1.0, already not skinable since 4.0.3, the Morcego de Pedra (a massive favorite for farming skins and TTCs) no longer drops any loot whatsoever, including Pequenino Baú de Tesouro while under the effects of Poção para Achar Tesouros. Also, since 4.1.0, many of the trogs in Geodomo no longer drop any treasure whatsoever, so no Pequenino Baú de Tesouro can be gotten from them either.

As of 6.2.4, the same is now true for most Cata zones and instances. My own experience using 6 Poção para Achar Tesouros during 6 runs of Grim Batol (5 normal, 1 heroic), 6 runs of Pináculo do Vórtice (5 normal, 1 heroic), 6 runs of Salões Primordiais (5 normal, 1 heroic), 7 runs of Trono das Marés (6 normal, 1 heroic) and 7 runs of Litocerne (6 normal, 1 heroic), I received a total of 3 Pequenino Baú de Tesouro. I used an additional 3 Poção para Achar Tesouros farming mobs in Vashj'ir, Uldum, and Planalto do Crepúsculo, and receive no Pequenino Baú de Tesouro whatsoever.

My Conclusion: Even taking into account the vagaries of RNG, the cost:benefit for Poção para Achar Tesouros is no longer attractive. However, I wondered if phasing may be causing an issue in the questing zones, i.e., until such time as the character has completed all quests in the zone to get into the right phase.

Part II

I switched to a character that had completed all the quests in Monte Hyjal, Planalto do Crepúsculo, Uldum, Geodomo and Vashj'ir, and began farming. In Monte Hyjal, upon expiration of the buff, I had received 10 x Pequenino Baú de Tesouro. In Planalto do Crepúsculo, upon expiration of the buff, I had received 13 x Pequenino Baú de Tesouro. In Uldum, upon expiration of the buff, I had received 5 x Pequenino Baú de Tesouro.. In Geodomo, upon expiration of the buff, I had received 21 x Pequenino Baú de Tesouro. In Vashj'ir, upon expiration of the buff, I had received 19 x Pequenino Baú de Tesouro.

My Conclusion: Phasing plays a significant role in the drop-rate of Pequenino Baú de Tesouro. And, this: Unless you can make them for yourself or somehow get them for free, the drop-rate of Pequenino Baú de Tesouro still makes the cost:benefit of using Poção para Achar Tesouros a losing game ... unless the RNG loves you. But does RNG really love anyone?

Part III

Following up, I used 1 x Poção para Achar Tesouros while farming Darkwood spiders (Prolemadre Lenhanegra and Espreitadora Lenhanegra) in Península de Tol Barad. I was able to group them and AoE pretty effectively, which really improved the drop-rate for Pequenino Baú de Tesouro, enough so that I burned a 2nd Poção para Achar Tesouros. I farmed spiders right up until the next battle timer ran out (about 1 hour and 40 minutes total) and gathered 39 x Pequenino Baú de Tesouro. By far, the most I ever had drop in one run.

I then tried my luck in the entry of Bastião do Crepúsculo, clearing the first room and stopping before the first boss (Halfus Quebra-serpe), then I ran out and reset. Each pass varied significantly, none on the first pass, 7 x Pequenino Baú de Tesouro on the second pass, 1 x Pequenino Baú de Tesouro on the third, 1 x Pequenino Baú de Tesouro on the fourth, and 5 x Pequenino Baú de Tesouro on the fifth (and last). Again, by grouping and AoE, I was able to see a definite improvement in the over-all drop-rate, but still not consistently high enough to justify the use of Poção para Achar Tesouros in the instance.

My Conclusion: To get the best bang for your buck, use Poção para Achar Tesouros in Península de Tol Barad.

Comentado por vikn

Additional information:

If you as I find an one hour grind a bit much sometimes. You can simply pause the timer by logging out of that character. When you log back in you can resume your grind with the same amount of minutes you had left on the potion.

Comentado por Dragonarcher

Farming the ogres under bastion of twilight in the twilight highlands is still the best spot for me, i get anywhere between 80-100 chests/hour, sometimes over the 100 mark.
Some people sometimes ask me when they go for the same spot, that they cant see any mobs there, well you will have to do the required quests for them to appear.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV0hxWZ2mGM

Comentado por Aveliia

People are crazy over-pricing these on Garrosh server 300g each. NOT WORTH the mats.

Comentado por Thrallscream

Bastion of Twilight still a good spot to farm. Just coming back to WOW after almost a year and had to check my farming spot. Is in pretty good shape. Easy 2k an hour plus mat and AH income. Typically 5k on average if you sell the hypnotic dust and/or embersilk cloth.

Comentado por DarklingThrush

These AH for 180g on my server. I thought that was strange, but just sold one. What is sustaining this market? Why are people paying so much for them?

Comentado por TheGimpster

I found that I got one of these potions in one of my toon's bank and I've picked up some gold farming tips...
Are these potions still effective for raw gold farming at the Cata Zones and Dungeons? I read some older posts below that suggest that they got nerfed and such...Is this true? Anyone able to confirm?

Comentado por Krich89

I can confirm this still works and is still extremely profitable to use. Even if this costs 4000g/piece to buy or make, do it, or farm mats! Create an alchemist and level up just his cataclysm alchemy to make them, it IS worth it. Anyone selling these on the AH for less than 2k/piece are troglodytes! snatch them up! Because I'm making on average 15,000-20,000 Gold per 10 Fireland Trash runs with these. I've been able to easily complete 10 runs in about ~40 minutes with my geared 120s but with the level of the instance being only lvl 85, you can do this with any class that's even in just the high 90s. Set raid difficulty to normal, pull all the beginning trash before first patrol boss in 3-4 groups, leave, reset, repeat. You cant pull them all at once or they start running back to their original spots.

-I say 10 runs because you get an account-wide lockout of all instances once you hit 10 instances in under an hour. So if you complete all 10 runs in under 60 min and still have the potion on, log out. This will keep it from running up the rest of the time. wait for the hour to be up and then repeat. You should be able to get an average of 14 runs/potion. So thats around 20,000-25,000g/potion. You can vendor everything that drops at the NPCs who sit at the front of the instance after every run so you never have to worry about bag space.

-Each Tiny Treasure Chest can contain up to 1-2 Greens, 1-5 Volatiles of all types, 1-8 Pyrite, 1-15 Embersilk and another 3-5g. I've opened a single chest that had as much as 5 Volatiles of every type, 10 embersilk and 8 pyrite. You should also get 1-2 450-lockboxes per run. Disenchant all green mats under 15g for hypnotic dust and celestial essence's and smelt pyrite into Pyrium to sell on AH. You should get an average of some where between 90-130 chests per 10 runs. Happy gold farming guys! <(^,^)>

**Extra Fireland Trash Tips:
-Ignore/run around the big mobs, they have abilities that snatch you up and significantly delay farming speed.
1) Grab turtles on right as you come down the hill, pull them through scorpion mobs on left and then on right up to the bridge
2) Gather and kill all serpents over the bridge in 1 group and kill, then go back over the bridge and pull the fire elementals and serpent patrols into another big group somewhere on your right next to the lava to avoid aggroing the boss who patrols with his 2 dogs after you kill the first 2 groups.
-*Never kill any of the raid bosses or you can't reset the trash mobs*

*Yes this is superior to twilight raid runs because you can only pull 60 mobs per run there and only 10 runs an hour. but In the Firelands raid there is 3-4x that many mobs you can reset 10 times in under an hour.

Comentado por Kurasu

I pop one of these before doing an hour of dice farming on my rogue. Enemies respawn faster than their pockets do, so I run a circle, picking and slaying them all, then circling back. The potion gives me several chests every hour, increasing the income by a factor of 10 or so between the gold, cloth, pyrium, elements, and greens (which mostly I boom for dust).

High profit, and I'm going to be killing swaths of enemies anyway for the die (or, if I get one before the hour's up, I'll usually just finish off the potion, see if I can get a second, and finish filling my bags).

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Poção para Achar Tesouros

Nível do Item: 32

Uso: Permite que você encontre tesouros adicionais de monstros em Monte Hyjal, Vashj'ir, Geodomo, Planalto do Crepúsculo e Uldum. Dura 1 hour. O efeito continua após a morte. (5 Min Recarga)
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