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Comentado por 319099

The buffs / transformations provided by this trinket are:

-Strength of the Vrykul
Granted 700 strength - Vrykul.

-Agility of the Wolvar
Granted 700 agility - Wolvar.

-Power of the Taunka
Granted 1400 attack power - Taunka.

-Precision of the Iron Dwarves
Granted 700 armor penetration rating - Iron Dwarf.

-Aim of the Tuskarr
Granted 700 critical strike - Tuskarr.

-Speed of the Gorloc
Granted 700 haste rating - Gorloc.

This item seems to be the updated version of this but is restricted to Melee DPS only.

Comentado por 108919

I can already see that this is going to be one of the most heavily debated and fought over trinkets in the game. Those stats are good for every single physical DPS class in the game, and I predict 150 comments of debate and name-calling.

One thing that people need to remember, though, is that an upgrade is an upgrade. All physical classes can use it, and it is significantly better than any other trinket avaliable, so please don't start whining when someone says "I can't wait to get it for my <class>".

Comentado por scaramoush

Any word on what decides what proc you get?

I can see the ArP proc being a hassle for folks who would be pushed over the hardcap, and a warrior would vastly prefer the STR to the AGI.

Comentado por greenland

700 agility for 30 seconds? @_@
I thought the Darkmoon card was overpowered.

Comentado por voydd

Wonder whats the internal cooldown

Comentado por 368690

yeah, a few questions still need to be answered.

so far, what is the internal cd is an obvious question. it's probably long since the effect lasts 30 seconds.

Also, how does the proc work? does it choose a random stat to increase (which would be situationally inconvenient. when's the last time anyone has ever seen, for example, a hunter using a shred of strength since hitting 80?) or is it like Death's Verdict where it increases your highest stat? (which wouldn't make a lot of sense since they nerfed armor pen). Or might there be a way to choose which effect to benefit from?

If it is random, being a hunter, this is not a very safe trink to lean on. and if that's the case, melee, have at it :p

Comentado por Hidengokill

I'd love to see Saurfang turn into a Gorloc :D

Comentado por 494798

Can anyone confirm the internal CD of this trinket? Seems as though the internal CD would be higher than 45 sec due to its 30 sec proc duration, but then again this is Icecrown so this trinket just may be THAT amazing.

Comentado por Doriq

Talking by a Warriors Point of view that has stacked ArP as much as possible passively, right now in my Arms Spec i have just about 100% Passive Armor Penetration with TotGC 25man gear mostly.

This trinket is insane for any mellee,the point is how is the proc based on because from what i heard of it's one out of three buff options and that is random.So ,for me personally, if the trinket procs me 700 crit or 700 Strength this would be a huge buff to my DPS but on the other hand if it procs me 700 ArP it's going to be a trinket proc wasted since i already have 100% ArP.

If someone has a link to a Blizzard post about how the proc works please feel free to say so :)

Comentado por 371365

Kinda amazed nobody's posted this info on the heroic version yet, or people have voted it down...

Here's how it works:
-Buffs last for 30 seconds.
-90 second ICD (hence about a 30% uptime).
-One of only THREE of the buffs can occur for any given class. Therefore, the buff isn't dependent on any of your stats (like DMC: Greatness) or any other factors besides your class. The breakdown is as follows:

DK: Str, Haste, Crit
Druid: Str, Agi, ArP
Hunter: Agi, Crit, AP
Paladin: Str, Haste, Crit
Rogue: Agi, ArP, AP
Shaman: Agi, ArP, AP
Warrior: Str, Crit, ArP

Comentado por 355917

Anyways, it's quite silly to have 100% passive you can get a 20% debuff from Acid Spit (exotic Hunter pet), Expose Armor, Sunder Armor. You've also got 10% extra coming from from Faerie Fire, Sting (Hunter pet), and Curse of Recklessness, giving a total of 30% theoretical armor pen debuff on the boss. It's really quite silly to have 100% armor pen

It is always better to have 100% ArP passive than to rely on procs (for physical dps classes). 100% passive means you will always ignore a target's armor ... instead of ignoring 50% most of the time, and 100% when a trinket procs or when someone else in the raid lowers the armor. For physical dps classes (ArP MM Hunters, Feral Druids, Rogues, Warriors), ArP is the best stat to buff point for point (after being hit capped/expertise capped) until you get to 1400 ArP.

Additionally, few hunters will raid as BM, and even fewer will use a worm in a raid (it nerfs their dps compared to other pets then can run with).

Comentado por rohonaken

these are what i pulled from wowhead and from logs of the various proc's our DK got last night:

Agility of the Vrykul
600/700 agility
Speed of the Vrykul
600/700 haste

as per class: agility-based classes will get agility. strength-based classes will get haste, im assuming.

Power of the Taunka
1200/1400 attack power
Strength of the Taunka
600/700 strength

as per class: strength-based classes (by that i mean those that receive 2ap+ per point of strength) will get strength. classes that do not benefit from or receive 2ap+ per strength point will get attack power.

Aim of the Iron Dwarves
600/700 critical strike rating
Precision of the Iron Dwarves
600/700 armor penetration

as per class: classes that benefit largely from armor penetration will receive armor penetration (warrior/druid/rogue seems to be the case). classes that benefit more from critical strike rating will receive crit (hunter/paladin/shaman/death knight). EXCEPT for the DK, i haven't personally confirmed any of those previous classes, theyre just logical conclusions.

from the logs last night, i pulled haste of the vrykul, aim of the iron dwarves, and strength of the taunka as having been receieved by our death knight who won the trinket sunday.

i understand that each class is limited to one type of buff from each form change, but i dont like the idea of armor pen possibility as a feral druid. ill be stacking straight arp beyond the soft cap created by this trinket and the proc's value decreases with every additional point over the soft cap, even though armor pen will still be the best theoretical stat regardless. frustrating but i suppose itll only end up being 33.33% of the ~30% uptime it has anyway.

neat trinket though

Comentado por 211544

Good ol http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=24256# 2.0

Comentado por Salus

This is all the available procs from the trinket, please note a certain class will recieve a select few of the below:

Agility of the Vrykul 700 agility
Aim of the Iron Dwarves 700 critical strike rating
Power of the Taunka 1400 attack power
Precision of the Iron Dwarves 700 armor penetration
Speed of the Vrykul 700 haste rating
Strength of the Taunka 700 strength

Comentado por 499282

As of 3.3, here is a list of the trinkets for raiding Ret Paladins from best to worst according to current rawr modelling. Coming from a progression-focused ret, you should probably let Deathbringers will go to another class and continue praying for a DC/WS to drop.

Death Choice (H)
Whispering Skull (H)
Death Choice
Whispering Skull
Herkuml War Token (Frost Badges)
Deathbringer's Will (H)
Deathbringer's Will
Darkmoon:Greatness

Comentado por 230590

another blessing or curse for pvp, like the other ToGC trinkets available, this one is miles ahead of pvp based rewards for trinkets

the passive is unreal, 167arp or 13.5%, thats double the banner of victory and for any class spec thats a huge boost in damage, which is most welcome with arena littered with high armor targets... and 700 to a stat (though random) is insane, especially since one of the procs is once again could be armor pen, meaning its also a possible replacement for the new needle encrusted scorpion... just too bad i hear it randomly picks between one of 3 rather than whichever stat you focus on like death's choice/verdict (so if you specifically want an ArP/STR/Agi proc then may want to keep your old trinks)

where its going to be a pain in pvp is the fact that it lasts 30sec, which is 3 times the typical duration for an equip proc but still better than ones that last only 10-15sec, even though it has a longer internal CD, thats a lot of uptime which makes it easier to utilize, technically you could be CC'ed or not attacking for quite a while and still have the proc up afterward

the only goofy thing is it transforms you into the associated race you got the buff from, not too bad with the taunka or iron dwarf, but gorloc, now thats going to be just priceless to be killed by something that is essentially a murloc-like thing that pukes on things as an attack lol

Comentado por Neba

When you have a buff from this trinket as a druid, you keep the "costume" even when you use flight form. You'll move around with a comically fast animation especially if you have epic flying, swimming if you're in the air.

Pretty sure I'm never vendoring this trinket if they don't nerf this funny effect.

Comentado por qasaq

This item seems to be the updated version of this but is restricted to Melee DPS only.

This serves as a good trinket for all types of hunters aswell, not just melee DPS.

Comentado por Veilside9999

While under the effects of this trinket you will become shapeshfted and unable to mount.
30 Seconds is a long time to be unable to mount while soloing or in a PvP situation.

Use this macro to quickly cancel the trinket buffs and mount up.

Remove Amani War Bear and replace with your mounts of choice

Hunter
/cancelaura Agility of the Vrykul
/cancelaura Aim of the Iron Dwarves
/cancelaura Power of the Taunka
/cast Amani War Bear

Rogue
/cancelaura Agility of the Vrykul
/cancelaura Precision of the Iron Dwarves
/cancelaura Power of the Taunka
/cast Amani War Bear

Warrior
/cancelaura Strength of the Vrykul
/cancelaura Precision of the Iron Dwarves
/cancelaura Aim of the Iron Dwarves
/cast Amani War Bear

Death Knight
/cancelaura Strength of the Vrykul
/cancelaura Speed of the Vrykul
/cancelaura Aim of the Iron Dwarves
/cast Amani War Bear

Paladin
/cancelaura Strength of the Vrykul
/cancelaura Speed of the Vrykul
/cancelaura Aim of the Iron Dwarves
/cast Amani War Bear

Comentado por 512479

Damn..this trink is what every melee DPS would dream of. I would really want to see my kitten with this trink and Death's Choice

Comentado por Soji

This trinket has changed for warriors as of 05/01/10

Once provided:
600 Str - Form of a Taunka
600 Crit rating - Form of an Iron Dwarf
600 Arp rating - Form of an Iron Dwarf

Now provides:
600 Str - Form of a Taunka
600 Crit rating - Form of an Iron Dwarf
600 Haste rating - Form of a Vrykul

Comentado por 126954

as of 1/6/2010 now proc's haste This is a buff for some classes namely the casters and maybe blood dk's even though that is still a fairly useless stat for dk like last on the list, I was not happy with that at all because haste lowers 2h crit damage and the armor pen made this godly for blood spec and good for other dk's, since replaced with haste this will now still take a backseat to other higher armor pen procing trinkets for blood dps dk's go blizz........

Comentado por HandofDeath

this might be a dumb question but can you equip this and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50362#comments at the same time?

Comentado por 172622

No you can NOT have them both, you have seen people with 2 ToC trinkets because it was possible during that tier, it was an issue Blizzard decided to address with ICC content, and they changed it. You can NOT equip the normal and heroic versions of ICC trinkets at the same time people. Do not listen to the above post. Changes were made.

Incorrect. Death's Verdict, along with its' heroic counterpart, may be equipped simultaneously. Do you want proof?

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Korgath&cn=Prettykisses

Now stop speaking on matters you have no knowledge of. Thanks.

Comentado por 432599

The trinket for some reason might be glitched on its procs on my warrior.
Taunka gives me 1200ap or 600 str on some procs
Vrykul gives 600 haste
and Iron dwarf only gives me so far 600 crit
i have not seen the arp proc and taunka gives me two variations of procs when i thought it would only be str. So far i find the 1200 ap proc happening more often

In terms of dps though this trink is very useful for most if not all melee classes. This trinket i do i see is probaly benefited most by arms and fury wars though because of the massive amount of arp it gives on equip and how much warriors love arp.

Comentado por dannyboy1100

wildowned1995 said

This in Heroic version + the Normal is Best in Slot for most of the classes, but ret pally and Enha. Well, it is but they arnt so great. BiS anyway

Well it isn't BiS for ret or enh....

ever heard of Tiny Abomination in a Jar, Whispering Fanged Skull or Death's Verdict

Comentado por omgwru

You can mount as a Taunka now, but you cannot use your jetpack on the Funship fight as a Taunka. I just found out the painful way. DBW macro ftw.

#showtooltip Deathbringer's Will
/cancelaura Strength of the Vrykul
/cancelaura Speed of the Vrykul
/cancelaura Aim of the Iron Dwarves
/cast *mount of your choice*

Comentado por Harson

This in Heroic version + the Normal is Best in Slot for most of the classes, but ret pally and Enha. Well, it is but they arnt so great. BiS anyway

Tell me 1 thing: Why the hell are you downrating me cus im saying an ITEM is BiS when it is ? *!@#ing retards GET A LIFE,&*!@ing kids

They are downrating you because you provide false information in your post- you can not have both the normal and heroic versions of ICC items equipped at the same time. And the fact that you throw a tantrum after getting downrated on every single post you ever make.

Well it isn't BiS for ret or enh....

ever heard of Tiny Abomination in a Jar, Whispering Fanged Skull or Death's Verdict

He never said it was. In fact, he specifically said it wasn't BiS for Enhancement or Retribution in his post.
Before insulting someone's writing skills, make sure your reading skills are up to scratch ;)

Comentado por dannyboy1100

can you read? look at the part

This in Heroic version + the Normal is Best in Slot for most of the classes, but ret pally and Enha. Well, it is but they arnt so great.

Well, it is? so he is saying well, it is BiS but not as good for ret and enh but still BiS... learn to read mate.

Edit: this guy also has -262 contributions and all his 115 comments are purged except for 2 that are on 0 so why are you defending him?

Comentado por 453115

TOP10 TRINKETS
<Fury Warrior>

BiS: Deathbringer's Will (H)*
02: Deathbringer's Will
03: Whispering Fanged Skull (H)
04: Death's Verdict (H) / Death's Choice (H)
05: Whispering Fanged Skull
06: Herkuml War Token
07: Death's Verdict / Death's Choice
08: Comet's Trail
09: Banner of Victory
10: Darkmoon Card: Greatness

NOTE! Every character has its own personal stats and that is why you can't look at this list as it would be always in this specific order.

Comentado por 142804

Just for kicks, be sure to /dance while in Taunka form.. The Peanut Butter Jelly Time song began playing in my head.
Also, /lol is the only vocal emote I've noticed for this form.

Currently, the Vrykul has no dance emote, or really any others.
The Iron Dwarf form is nothing new.

Comentado por 44511

The transformations the trinket provides are random, last 30 seconds each, and vary between classes.
Death Knight - +700 Strength, +700 Haste, or +700 Crit Rating
Druid - +700 Agility, +700 Haste, or +700 Strength
Hunter - +700 Agility, +700 Haste, or +1400 Attack Power
Paladin - +700 Strength, +700 Haste, or +700 Crit Rating
Rogue - +700 Agility, +700 Haste, or +1400 Attack Power
Warrior - +700 Strength, +700 Haste, or +700 Crit Rating

Comentado por 578007

I jizzed in my pants....

Comentado por 129936

haha i love how peoples using this trinket for arena pvp when my friends got screw up him form it into Taunka and losing the games. xD

Comentado por 453115

TOP10 TRINKETS
<Fury Warrior>

BiS: Deathbringer's Will (H)*
02: Deathbringer's Will
03: Whispering Fanged Skull (H)
04: Death's Verdict (H) / Death's Choice (H)
05: Whispering Fanged Skull
06: Herkuml War Token
07: Death's Verdict / Death's Choice
08: Comet's Trail
09: Banner of Victory
10: Darkmoon Card: Greatness

NOTE! Every character has its own personal stats and that is why you can't look at this list as it would be always in this specific order.

Comentado por 496482

So I'm having trouble getting Proculas to track this trinket. Anyone here use it or have something that works to track the internal proc?

Comentado por 633413

This would be the best trinket without the morphs.I hate them.Try moving in vanish wile looking like a cow.

Comentado por 619615

Is any good for a feral druid?

Comentado por hampusdif

But what does shammy get? :) i would love to know

Comentado por Llednar

By rossman231 on 12/12/2009 (Patch 3.3.0)
Kinda amazed nobody's posted this info on the heroic version yet, or people have voted it down...

Here's how it works:
-Buffs last for 30 seconds.
-90 second ICD (hence about a 30% uptime).
-One of only THREE of the buffs can occur for any given class. Therefore, the buff isn't dependent on any of your stats (like DMC: Greatness) or any other factors besides your class. The breakdown is as follows:

DK: Str, Haste, Crit
Druid: Str, Agi, ArP
Hunter: Agi, Crit, AP
Paladin: Str, Haste, Crit
Rogue: Agi, ArP, AP
Shaman: Agi, ArP, AP
Warrior: Str, Crit, ArP

it has been said before.

Comentado por 211544

I hope we get a similar trinket like this one in Cataclysm,

One could turn you into a elemental such as:
Water...
Fire...
Earth...
Air...

*in before captain planet reference*

Would be funny watching a rogue running around with sprint as a Earth Elemental, you're in for some pain!

Comentado por 669477

still looks badass

Comentado por 464832

Now currently BiS for Retradins since 4.0.1 has hit.
700 Str Proc
700 Haste Proc
700 Crit Proc

Due to paladins new stat values the haste given from this trinket is far more valuable than it currently was.

Comentado por 376863

FUN FACT! If u take off your weapon when you get the Valkyr (600 haste proc) instead of hitting people with your fists you kick everyone instead....I thought this was hilarious soloing lowbies with flying ninja kicks xD

Comentado por n0rp

As for patch 4.0.1 enhancement shaman can also use this trinket

Comentado por 493065

wait a sec? Crit? O_o

Comentado por 707751

As of 4.0.3a for a Warrior (Orc, might be Faction Wide), the macro to cancel is:

/cancelaura Aim of the Iron Dwarves
/cancelaura Strength of the Taunka
/cancelaura Speed of the Vrykul

Comentado por 895213

I wish there were items like this in cataclysm. Sure there are some items that give some transformation effects such http://www.wowhead.com/item=59461#, But it's not a proc like this trinket. I miss wotlk.

Comentado por 968561

Is it possible to equip both the normal and the heroic type of that trinket?
And if yes, is it possible for them to turn on at the same time?
(sorry for my bag english).

Comentado por 614349

Apparently, this trinket is still good till BWD in terms of proc. Still effective in Cata normals as of 5.2

Comentado por Gizmotechie22

the procs for this trink are a bit weird on a monk crit and haste are cool but strength instead of agility?

Comentado por Lostelf

Use Espelho do Céu de Ai-Li when this is procced for 10 mins of of whatever form you got.

Comentado por glaiveninja

As of latest patch (6.1) you no longer have to cancel the proc effect from this trinket in order to mount and no longer says "Can't mount while transformed".

Comentado por Ramraiders

In WoD procs is 121 stat (agi, pow, crit etc ...)
test 93lv hunter

Comentado por wisedada

The awesome effects of this iconic trinket are now available to everyone thanks to Vontade de Nortúndria, sold by Timewalking vendors.

Comentado por Teebee2010

Funnily, after stat squish, the heroic trinket has +27 crit, and the normal trinket has +28 crit (both 0.25% @ level 100).
Not that you would need it for anything else than aesthetics. ;-)

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