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Comentado por 14597

Imagine shatter bombing with this!

Frost Nova -> Frostbolt + double Ice lance, use pet's frost nova if yours breaks...

You think the crit chance on this is increased by +spell crit? Cos then it really is amazing for shatter :P

Comentado por Mazrim

Just got this tonight, and when spamming scorch and fireblast, it's the same as having about 3 points in Ignite. Because a scorch crit will give me about 600 in ignite damage against a debuffed mob, and each crit adds around 300-330 from the lightning bolt.

Retardedly good for aoe'ing because each crit will give you a charge, so all you have to do is target the big bad elite in the aoe pull to have some extra burst against that guy.

Comentado por 1328

- Can crit
- Is not affected by +spell damage
- Is affected by debuffs on mobs (Misery, etc ...)
- Works off AoE
- Proc doesn't need you to face your target
- Molten armor can proc it

Comentado por 797

Hmmm... this is what Lightning Overload should have been.

Oh well, this will be a goal of my elemental shammy...

Comentado por Obsidian

Apparently a chain-lightning triple-crit will cause the to proc on your currently selected target and it is affected by all shaman lightning bolt talents, including lightning only chance to crit.

Comentado por 15251

Damage done changed to 555 to 645 on the current test realm.

Comentado por 27891

Got nudged up on the most recent build of the PTR. It now does 648-752.

Comentado por 32440

Does Arcane Power boost the lightning damage as well? I assume it wouldn't but it would be good to know.

Also is the damage is full threat?

Comentado por Kimack

This is just a sick trinket for a fire mage.. Damn.. I want it :)

Comentado por Hegga

Got this yesterday on my firemage, and fully raid specced I have about 40% crit with scorch. This beuty increases my dps with 10-15% depending on luck.

Comentado por Kamikaze

This is one of the best trinkets in the game for a elemental shaman.
EM+CL= 3 crits then a super shock :D

Comentado por 20869

When a Shaman procs this off of an EM > CL, will the proc hit the initial target or the last target on the CL jump?

Comentado por 10332

does it generates aggro?

Comentado por 23631

The trinket is pretty useful for the actual illhoof fight if you have a lock or mage aoe tanking the adds. Especially as a arcane mage mana being regained with resists spamming rank 4 or 5 AE you get tons of procs off the trinket and never run out of mana. Just make sure you have appropriate FR gear.

Comentado por yoshi245

Also know that the Electrical Charge buff persists through log-out(don't think it does through death though). But it's nice to log on and still see the charges still there. And the charges still stay on you if you switch trinkets around. Or deequip it.

Comentado por Isilvara

It is not effected by +spelldamage, but is it effected by talents such as Vengence, which makes the damage of a spell crit double too 100%, rather then the usual 50%?

I'm a Balance druid. If I get a crit with this thing, will it crit for 1 K'ish or 1.4 K'ish?

Comentado por 26954

As a Destruction Warlock myself, the most crit-dependent tree for a Warlock, I would pass on this. With the plethora of other trinkets available, there are far too many others I would get much more use out of. This would just be an extra bag slot going to waste.

Comentado por 36282

Actually sinister is classed as a spell, or atleast when u turn on combat spell messages it comes up in combat list as a "spell"

But i doubt very much it would work for a rogue / gief for my MAge ftw / good for shammys also, but definetely shouldnt go to a warlock that would be a insane waste

Comentado por adamthemute

Does this proc off of Seal of Command procs? I'd assume it would off Judgements, would just like to be sure before going after it.

Thanks.

Comentado por Yoshura

This would rock with a pile of Seed of Corruption crits

Comentado por 26949

35% Crit (Shaman)

Assumption: Crit Chance is affected by your chance to crit with spells. See: Nara's post.

Average damage for a Lightning Capacitor crit:

( ( 694 * 1.65 ) + ( 694 * 1.35 ) ) / 2 = 1041 Average Base Damage.
( ( 806 * 1.65 ) + ( 806 * 1.35 ) ) / 2 = 1209 Average Max Damage.

(1209 + 1041 ) / 2 = 1125 Average Damage.

35 / 100 = .35.

We need 1.00 to generate a Lightning Charge.

1.00 / .35 = 2.857

So, approx. every 2.857 spells I cast will generate one Lightning Charge.

Need 3.00 Lightning Charges for 1.00 Lightning Bolt.

2.857 * 3.00 = 8.571 spells for 1.00 Lightning Bolt.

1.00 Lightning Bolt = 1125 Average Damage.

8.571 spells = 1125 Average Damage.

(1125 / 8.571 ) = 131.256.

In the upcoming 2.1 patch, if Lightning Capacitor is affected by your +spell crit, it will effectively be a passive +131.256 Spell Damage trinket if you have 35% to crit.

Better learn how to kill those chains.

Comentado por Jimma

Would it be a good thing to use a lower ranked spell with a high %crit chance (from talents) to get better DPM? I was thinking of spamming lower ranked spells and letting the procs do the missing damage from the higher ranks... :D

Comentado por 1840

As an arc/fire mage (33/28/0) with ~33% crit (w/Xi'ri's Gift) I am having trouble choosing between Xi'ri's Gift (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29179) and this one. Has anyone done any comparison calculations on these trinkets?

Comentado por 25970

One cool thing to note for Shaman:

If you use Elemental Mastery with Chain Lightning, it causes crits on 3 targets and fires a Lightning Bolt at the last enemy in the chain.

Comentado por 55985

This item is not terribly useful yet since it's not affected by +dmg gear.

I cannot see giving up a +dmg or +crit trinket until this uses my +spell dmg, since this waits for a crit and +dmg +crit are there every cast.

Edit: Upon reading other's notes, as a Warlock, this would be really fun when using Seeds.

Comentado por Strungout

OMG this is is INSANE ...... I got it on my elemental shaman who has 39 % spell crit and just WOW

It shares the Spell crit you have on the trinket so it crits on 39 % of the procs because IT IS CONSIDERED A LIGHTNING BOLT SPELL

Clearly it was intended as an elemental shaman trinket hands down since like Palidans we need spell crit to keep our mana up and add this to the mix and you have another lighting bolt every 3 crits

SIDE NOTE .... it procs off of Flame tongue and frostbrand so more reason for shamans to stab with our fast daggers (those weapon attacks also share ur spell crit so GG) Now if only shaffars horn would drop :-(

Comentado por Tarrek

I'd say that this trinket is definitely meant for elemental shamans. No other dps class comes close in terms of crit chance. Close to 40% chance to crit with lightning spells is to be considered normal on a well geared raiding shaman, without gimping other stats. With almost every other bolt critting, the dps increase thanks to this trinket is substantial.

Comentado por 37572

Tarrek: You're not going to see near as many procs even with that 40% crit rate as a mage would. Anyway lots of classes can benefit greatly from this trinket!

After getting this trinket i promptly respecced to 33/28/0, took my 36% crit scorch build and had some fun.

==>PvP:
Combined with molten armor, this trinket will proc very quickly on rogues and druids - in one rogue duel I was lagging and was slow to blink, and the rogue was at ~2/3 health by the time i blinked.

This trinket procs like mad in pvp situations where you are AE'ing more than a few targets. This gives you some extra burst damage that is more difficult to heal through.

Finally, critting someone who is running away and almost dead and watching a tiny lightning bolt chase them down and kill them is quite satisfying.

==> PvE
I did a Karazhan raid as 33/28/0 (had no imp fireball, just used scorch/FB). Expecting to place somewhat low on the damage meters (due to previous experience with scorch builds) I actually managed to be just shy of #1 dps with the procs from the trinket making up 6.5% of my total damage.

==>Important notes
The tooltip is inaccurate. When AE'ing mobs, although the trinket is capable of procing multiple times off one spell (I've seen two procs off one AE), it won't zap the mob/player you have targetted, it will zap one of the mob/players who was crit (3rd one, I believe).

If your 3rd crit is a killing blow, the proc is wasted. :-(

Comentado por 59449

Get off your high horses, stop making thottbot-ish priowars especially when you're way off.

15 sec span factoring in 100 ms lag.

1 x immolate
5 x Incinerate
1 x Conflagrate

7 spells / 33% crit = 2,31 spellcrits

Avg trinket dmg per crit= 332,5

2,31 spellcrits x 332,5 avg trinket dmg = 768,075

768,075 dmg / 15 seconds = 51,205 dps or the equivelant of having ~100-120 extra spelldamage.

Furthermore, this thing is pure golden for destro warlock pvp and grinding. Searing pain has(just like mages Scorch) +10% crit from talents and thusly is a BEAST with this trinket, I also use shadowfury a lot which hits n crits several targets. All in all, saying this trinket is worthless for a destruction warlock and that we should be lowprioed, is pure BS. Mages, Balance druids, Elemental shamans and DD spell spamming warlocks ALL benefit greatly from this trinket, and all should be given a fair shot at it.

Comentado por 22103

Since it sounds like the Lightning Bolts from this trinket are affected by shaman talents for Lightning spells (Lightning Overload, Clearcasting, Call of Thunder, etc), this trink should go to an elemental shaman first and foremost.

In AoE fights, it would be great for a mage. However 99% of boss fights (the only fights that matter) do not use AoE.

Comentado por Sylvina

I'm a Holy Paladin and I just got my hands on this snazzy item. I'm going to be testing it out and see if it makes my grinding life any easier. I will also be trying this out on a Retribution Paladin, but even then, unless I'm fighting an undead it's probably not worth it (since you'd have to crit 3 judgments and those 3 judgments will take a total of 24 seconds to occur). Although, I'm not sure if righteousness Crits would count either, since they have the SD calculated into them if I remember correctly.

So... in short, this will be an interesting experiment. Keep your eyes peeled on my blog for other details: sealofblood.scvs4hire.com

Comentado por 60166

Whot is better this trinkiet or Quagmirran's Eye ?

Comentado por Roulk

Got one of these and I'm very very happy with the dps boost it provides...
I'm a raid specced (41/0/20) Elemental Shaman, my primary damage spell is a 2 second cast with a 5% chance for a double cast (Lighting Overload) I have 35% crit on lightning with AI but no oils/alchemy buffs...
This trinket is really quite rediculous... in any one trash pull I'll have about 5 procs from this trinket... (I often spam one or two R1 LB's while the tank gets a little bit of extra agro, I like to start on a clearcast)

The biggest issue I have with this trinket is threat on trash... It fires after a crit, which is always a bump up on the agro... with an extra 700 damage tacked on, (1050 crit, also 35% chance)

It's taking a little bit of getting used too... and with no agro dump "just in case" it could pose a problem... none of the agro reduction trinkets provide any significant amount.

Confirming what has also been confirmed and re-confirmed...
It does NOT proc Lighting Overload off the Trinket Proc
It does NOT proc Clearcasting if it crits
It does NOT get a 100% crit damage bonus from Elemental Fury

It DOES get +11% spell crit from Shaman lighting talents.
It DOES gain charges from the second and third jumps from Chain Lighting

It fires at the last person to be crit, Starting with no charges, a 3 target EM/CL will proc the trinket onto the last person in the chain...
If you already had 2 charges and EM/CL onto 3 targets, the first will take the bolt and you'll instantly gain 2 more charges ready to go... It works very nicely this way...

It's hard for me to track how much damage the proc is actually doing... as it is a "Lighting Bolt" and appears on all mods mixed in with my regular data...

PS. Those giggling at the "slow moving bolt"
It's a lot of fun... I've had at times 1 bolt hitting a boss, 1 leaving my hands and 2 mid air... it looks very cool when you get some LO's and TLC's proc together... Lightning Windfury ftw!

Comentado por 62486

I got this just a few minutes ago as an arcane mage. Basically what I want to know is how does the lightning bolt work against raid bosses, +hit wise? Does it ignore hit rating and does it ever resist? Does it just get the barebone +hit rating from your gear unless you are a shaman, or do other +hit talents of different classes and magic schools influence the hitchance as well?

Comentado por 38883

What percentage of crit chance (as a 41/20/0 Mage) - would you say - is the minimum required to make this trinket better than Xiri's Gift?

Comentado por Ravedruid

I am assuming down-ranking doesn't hinder ththe ability to stack charges.

It doesn't seem like this would increase DPS but in a situation where you have two charges and your mana is either gone or being consered I would readily fire off a Rank 1 Moonfire to complete the stacking and release the bolt.

I have not gotten the trinket yet but would love to have this confirmed or corrected. An instant cast with a 37% chance to crit that costs 25 mana and a global cooldown able to proc a lightning bolt that deals 700ish damage sounds great and I can see gambling on a crit simply for this in quite a few situations.

Comentado por 35479

I think this has been noted before, but this is one of if not the best trinket for arcane mages (i'm currently 61/0/0, contrary to popular belief with some of the worst gear in the kara raids im usually top one-two, sometimes by quite a bit, and in 5 mans 90% of the time im top, anyways) I usually use AM very rarely use AB or anything else due to the significant amount of dps i lose with AB so it's basically a 1 sec attack speed, with a ~25% crit rate that's almost one proc per 12 sec, or ~62.5 dps, and as an added bonus in comparison to other on-use trinkets it is a steady amount of damage that doesn't require you to activate it.

IMO, arcane mage first (due to am), fire mage second (due to high crit from talents), and after that doesn't matter that much, close third is elem shaman, and then anyone else its not that good for them

Comentado por winnoe

One additional bit of useful information for those Deep Fire Mages 10/48/3 this is perfect for endurance fights.

Normally towards the end of the fight when i've potted, gemmed, blown evocation and just waiting for next gem to pop, I'll switch to lower ranked Scorch and spam that until I clearcast, then Fireball/Arcane Missiles.

With this trinket equipped, it allows you to cast lower ranked cheap scorches (48% to crit with scorch on my build with Moonkin aura, raid buffs) to proc clear casts for that Fireball/Arcane Missile barrage without sacrificing too much DPS.

Every 2 clear casts (20 casts total) I would have crit 9-11 times, meaning an additional 3 lightning bolts.

20 x Scorch 1.5sec cast = 30sec
2 x Fireball 3.0sec cast = 6 sec
Avg L.Cap dmg per bolt = 750dmg
Total L.cap dmg for 36sec = 2150dmg

Or additional 59.7 dmg per sec just by saving mana using down ranked scorches.

This is assuming Lightning bolts don't crit (30% on my char, nature crit chance) and don't miss (only have +11% hit with non-fire) and not affected by lag.

This is very very very nice for any crit-based casting class, of which the highest +crit% to glean the most benefit will most likely be your friendly neighbourhood Fire mage, Arcane/Fire mage, or Elemental Shammy.

note: Does not gain charges from Wanding crits.

Comentado por 74254

This trinket is hands down the best Elemental shammy raiding trinket in the game.
While the trinket gains no benifit from spelldamage gear it does gain benifit from our talents. This includes concusion and the + crit for lightning bolts.

Lets say you have decent gear and can reach 33% crit with your lightning bolt spells fully buffed. (that is pretty easy with consumables/oils and elixers). You can cast 8 spells within a 15 second span ( 2 CL and 6 LB ). With the 4 extra hits from CL thats a total of 12 hits you have a chance to crit on. Thats an average of 4 crits with spells every 15 seconds (this doesnt include lightning overload or Elemental mastery to keep it simple). Now this trinket does 694-806 dmg which averages out to 750 on each hit and 1125 on crits . Now add in the 5% gained from and it changes to 728.7-846.3 which averages out to 787.5 dmg per hit and 1181.25 on crits. The trinket can crit based on you spell crit percentage plus it gains all your talents for +crit to Lightning Bolts. So it crits 33% of the time as well this gives its overal average dmg of 918.75 every hit. (785.5+785.5+1181.25=2756.25/3) Now if you get 4 crits every 15 seconds thats 1.33 charges going off every 15 seconds for an average of 918.75 and that translates to 79.65 DPS increase.

Gaining almost 80 DPS from a single trinket is huge now factor in elemental mastery and lightning overload and it goes up pretty quickly.

If you get the chance to grab this trinket, DO SO.

Thats +160 dmg on every LB and up to +360 dmg for CL.

Comentado por 78123

I can't believe I missed noticing this trinket until now. This is daft good for an elemental shammy. Point is that when kitted out with decent epics and buffed in raids, shammies' crit chance can go as high as 43-48% (moonkin aura ftw) :) Now when's my guild's next Kara run?

Comentado por 29998

For mages, and any other class that uses a single target, direct damage spell as their primary nuke, my calculations result in the following formula for calculating the +dmg necessary for an equivalent trinket:

let:
C = the crit rate for your nuke spell (e.g. 30% => 0.3)
B = the crit bonus for your nuke spell (e.g. 100% => 1.0)
C = the crit rate affecting the lightning bolt
B = the crit bonus for the lightning bolt (usually 50% => 0.5)
D = damage modifier from talents for your nuke (e.g. 6% from piercing ice => 1.06)
F = the spell damage coefficient of your nuke

+dmg = 250*C*(1+B*C)/(D*F*(1+B*C))

Some examples:

Lets say you're a mage with gear giving you a 27% base crit rate to all spells.

If you were 40/0/21 and spamming frostbolts, your overall crit would be 30% (base +3% from arcane instability). Your variables would be:

C = C = 0.3
B = 0.5 + 0.5 (ice shards) + 0.25 (spell power) = 1.25
B = 0.5
D = 1.09 (+3% arcane instability and +6% piercing ice)
F = 3/3.5 - 0.1 (nerf tax) - 0.05 (snare reduction) = 0.707

This trinket would be equal to one having:

250*0.3*(1+0.5*0.3)/(1.09*0.707*(1+1.25*0.3)) = +81 dmg

If you were 10/48/3 and spamming fireball, with someone keeping the improved scorch debuff up, your fireball crit rate would be 36% (base +6% from critical mass and 3% from pyromaniac).

C = 0.36
C = 0.27
B = 0.5 + 1.5*0.4 (ignite) = 1.1
B = 0.5
D = 1.13 (+3% playing with fire and +10% fire power) * 1.15 (+15% improved scorch debuff) = 1.30
F = 3.5/3.5 - 0.10 (nerf tax) + 0.15 (empowered fireball) = 1.05

250*0.36*(1+0.5*0.27)/(1.30*1.05*(1+1.1*0.36)) = +54 dmg

If you were 10/48/3 with incineration and spamming scorch, your scorch crit rate would be 40% (base +4% from incineration and 9% from the talents mentioned above).

C = 0.40
C = 0.27
B = 1.1
B = 0.5
D = 1.30
F = 1.5/3.5 = 0.429.

250*0.4*(1+0.5*0.27)/(1.30*0.429*(1+1.1*0.4)) = +141 dmg

For reference, if you use the "On Use" ability of http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29370 every time it's off cooldown, it's equivalent to a passive trinket having 43 + 155*20/120 = +69 dmg.

Hope that helps in your itemization.

Comentado por Blakey

Raiding ele shamans also often top 40% spell crit, simply because we gain 11% from talents (and another 3% from ToW, if we're clever and take it for raiding;))

Really, I think it's equally good for both.

Comentado por Blargenheim

This drops off Illhoof, an encounter which requires a Warlock spamming Seed of Corruption on Illhoof to kill all of the imps in the room. It sure would make sense for this trinket to go to a Warlock and s/he will be able to do some dps to Illhoof on this fight. Good for locks in other situations as well, spamming searing pain, or just regular casting, it is still an awesome choice for locks. Huge benefit to Shammys, Mages, and other casters as well :)

Comentado por 52389

For those wondering, as I was, the range of the lightning bolt is 45 yards.

Comentado por 86746

Now all we need is a Flux Capacitor...

Comentado por Domenico

Most of the offensive casters in my guild have this. I'm planning on trying lolsmite in raids (I have the support of my guild and we have a couple of ret pallies and boomkins so it should be interesting).

Comentado por fuyung

I sometimes use it in AB when almost OOM and spam rank 1 IAE to stop flag turning. (fire mage)

Comentado por 32369

As a raid based Moonkin, this has been a fantastic trinket for soloing.

It also rivals my other trinkets for killing trash mobs on raids.

I am a Wrath spammer though. I'm don't think it would be as effective for the Starfire chickens.

Edit: After the patch, I find this trinket more useful for Starfire spamming then Wrath spamming.

Comentado por 66161

New in 2.3: When 'The Lightning Capacitator' procs, the target will scream, "DON'T TAZE ME BRO!"

Comentado por Gnub

As of Patch 2.3, this will be an even better trinket for Elemental Shamans, as we'll get more LO procs.

Comentado por HanyseG

My arcane missiles hit each 0.875 seconds with the haste meta gem alone, with 33% crit.
That is one lightning fired off every 7.875 seconds, or ~95 dps.

For a T4 geared arcane mage spamming missiles, this trinket alone adds around 10% dps!

Comentado por DELPylon

This trinket can only proc at most every 2,5 seconds in the newest version of the 2.3 PTR.

Comentado por Aisenfaire

This has been nerfed in the 2.3 patch being tested on the PTR right now. A 2.5 second cooldown has been added.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2677/lcnerfedsw2.jpg

This is a blow to the elemental shammies who've been stacking Lightning Overload ( http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=30681 ) with this trinket, and to the arcane mages who've been using Arcane Missile spam with Mystical Skyfire Diamond ( http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25893 ) and this trinket.

Comentado por 70404

The nerf on this thing in 2.3 hurts me as a warlock. During the Illhoof fight for instance, I'll spam SoC on illhoof, which hits all his imps, pretty much guaranteed to get at least three crits from that... The lightning blot then hits one of them (I've not worked out how it decides which one it should hit, it certainly doesn't go for the target the aoe spell was cast at any more than any other target.) - I'm not certain, but I think it's capped at a maximum of 3 charges for one spell cast at the moment, pretty sure there are times when I've had more than 6 crits using SoC (2 pulls of skellies in SL for instance) and I haven't noticed more than one lightning bolt proc, or any extra charges after a lightning bolt, I haven't searched through my combat logs or anything, but that's just what I've noticed from playing with it for a while now.

Aside from the difference in how good this is for aoe, so long as you are casting 2.5 second spells (imp SB for instance) it shouldn't make much difference. Unfortunately (well not really unfortunately) I have Quagmirran's Eye, which reduces the speed of my SB's so that during the buff time on the eye (you can get 3 hasted SB's when it procs) I'll only have a chance at getting 2 charges rather than three...

And forget spamming 1.5 second casts.... They really have killed this item for many classes and builds. Still useable... but there are plenty of other "useable" and non "must have" items out there.

Comentado por Mapex

Since the addition of the 2.5 second cooldown this trinket no longer functions exactly according to the intricate math outlined above. Might need some more theorycrafting now :p

Comentado por 10128

Basically it is still really good for nukers, except it doesnt really benefit any classes more than others. It's about equal for everybody and it's not hugely overpowered with AoE spells :)

Comentado por Durakghar

It has been confirmed on EJ boards that in patch 2.3, the 2.5 second cooldown is applied only after the lightning bolt shoots off. Thus, you cannot acquire the first of three charges until 2.5 seconds have gone after shooting the Lightning bolt. I believe that it noted that there is no cooldown on acquiring the charges as testing with chain lightning with multiple crits has added multiple charges.

Comentado por Lohmarn

Would the crit proc include when an Elemental Shaman's Magma Totem crits while doing AoE dmg?

Just curious

Comentado por 87497

The real question is would the lightning capacitor still be a buff to damage for an elemental shaman with is raid buffed at 1000 spell damage and 39% crit on lightning bolt? Or would at that point the Shiffar's Nexus-Horn (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28418) would be bringing in more damage?
Or would Icon of the Silver Crescent(http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29370) be the better trinket?

Comentado por 42448

cast time on LB is 2 secs how long does it take to reach the target?....id say more then 2.5 secs because ive gotten 2 charges in a row.......this is after nerf of course

Comentado por 81565

This does NOT proc from wand crits.

Comentado por fiskebulle

I just got this trinket as a frost mage, post nerf. And all I have to say is, it procs off shatter combos. (Frostbolt+icelance on a frozen target, double crit). My theory would be that it's not when the crits occur it's how long the previous cast was. For example, my frostbolt takes 2.5s to cast, my Ice Lance is instant, they hit the target at the exact same time(therefore both the spells get the shatter bonus and crit) and it adds 2 Lightning Charges, and I think it's because the cast time of frostbolt is 2.5s.

Needless to say, this trinket rocks my boat in pvp.

Comentado por Zephyr

The nerf that this trinket received in 2.3 does not prevent you from acquiring additional charges upon the buff in rapid succession, it prevents you from getting the *buff* itself rapidly.

Examples:
You have one charge and AoE for 4 crits. You will get two charges and fire a bolt.
You have one charge and chaincast fireball (3s cast) and get 4 crits in a row. You will get two charges, fire a bolt, reacquire the buff and get a second charge on the new buff.

Comentado por 113968

TLC is an EXCELLENT trinket, most especially for elemental shaman. I know there are people who rank it 2nd or 3rd behind hex shrunked head or guldan's skull.. but that's just wrong. ESPECIALLY if you are hit-capped (skull) which is very easy as an ele.

Here's why: (the following write up is for an elemental shaman)

TLC is worth a STATIC +168 dmg assuming a pretty standard raid-buffed crit rating on your LB/CL of 40%

You heard me, it's worth +168 dmg. Here's the math:

TLC discharge dmg = 694-805 --> avg non-crit discharge = 750
TLC discharge crit multiplier = 1.5x --> avg crit (40% frequency) = 1125.

Assuming a crit rate of 40%, which TLC gets in this scenario --> avg TLC bolt dmg = 900.
^^ That is, 60% non crit @ 750dmg per and 40% crit @1125 dmg = 900dmg on avg overall per discharge.

At 40% crit rate, it will take an average of 7.5 casts to discharge the trinket.

So, since, we know that it takes an avg of 7.5 casts to discharge a bolt doing an avg of 900 dmg, we are getting 900dmg/7.5casts with this trinket @40% crit rate.

That is 900dmg/7.5casts = 120dmg per cast.

However, we also know that LB's co-efficient is 71.4%

Solving simply for this, we get that 1/.714 = ~1.400x

So, 120dmg x 1.400 = 168 damage.

Yeah, that's the equivalent +dmg that TLC gives NOT EVEN calculating in the procs of LO, NOR the ability for CL to multi-charge the trinket. Considering those (much more complex math) the benefits are even greater...

In sum, TLC >>>> all other trinkets for ele shammies. And it gets better with your crit.

Have a nice day! :-)

Comentado por ataxxia

Dont flame me, this is only because im curious. I'm never going to get one of these, or take it over a caster.
But, does this proc of seal of command and/or judgement of command crits?

Comentado por 29718

Is anyone else seeing numbers over the 806 cap? I took off all my gear except TLC and started casting rank one LB i saw many TLC hits not crits over 806 up to about 830 making me think it actually does benefit from concussion anyone have similar or differing numbers or results?

Comentado por riker

For a warlock if you crit multiple times with seed of corruption does
it fire a bolt at every target (that you just crit on)
or just the target you have selected? or the first target you crit with?

Comentado por Attero

I've wanted this trinket for over a year now. As a PvP frost mage this would come in handy. Just consider Shatter! I can get a crit off like every 2-3 seconds, so it would greatly increase my damage and burst, which in turn helps nuking down targets.

However, seeing as this trinket is good for so many classes (shamans more than others I guess) it has proven to be extremely difficult to get my hands on.

Also, I'm not even sure if it's worth replacing my Battlemaster trinket for.. Any ideas?

Comentado por Yawn

The wording as of 2.3 is very inaccurate. You can still gain charges as fast as your crits come, but after it procs an actual lightning bolt you cannot gain charges for 2.5 seconds.

I.E. you can crit on 2 lightning bolts in a row, and one of those bolt's lightning overloads and you will get three charges, but if your next lightning bolt crit you would not recive a charge.

This Trinket adds around 100 dps for an elemental shaman with 40% crit.

Comentado por sedair

does this item receive any benefit from spell hit rating? It seems to be resisted more than my normal spells and I am currently at hit cap.

Comentado por 43615

Do not forget: Patch 2.4:

Item Cast Spells: Many spells cast by items were being cast as if the caster were the same level as the item. Most of those will now be cast at the player’s level, giving them a reasonable chance to miss, be dispelled, or be resisted.

It MIGHT mean that this item will get so many resists it does not worth it anymore for an Elemental Shaman who gets most of his hit from talents, which do not effect items. More testing is needed, nothing is confirmed from the above, just keep these in mind.

Comentado por 33022

I just picked this up as a lolSmite priest. Before anyone flames me, the dps had better stuff. I've been trying to do the math based on the formulas above, and was hoping someone might be able to help fill in the missing stuff. I also realize that a lolsmiter is heavily gear based for crit as we only get the 5% from Holy Spec and possibly 5% from Force of Will. So I'm filling in the crit based on my personal gear.

C = C = 26.9%
B = 100%
B = 50%
D = 115% (Searing Light + Force of Will)
F = the spell damage coefficient of your nuke (crunching fails me here...)

+dmg = 250*C*(1+B*C)/(D*F*(1+B*C))

This gives me

250*.27*(1+.5*.27)/(1.15* F *(1+1*.27) = + dmg

I'm a bit confused trying to figure out Priest dmg coefficient. Other than that if anyone can point out errors, or fill in numbers, I'd like to see how this works out. I also realize I probably have not figured in the 2.5 sec limit, which really isn't a factor unless I'm spamming Holy Nova (lol), as I think the fastest I could stack it would be Holy Fire/Smite, Mind Blast, SW:D.

I messed around w/ my build and discovered that this will proc off Reflective Shield crits (rather humerous to see).

Comentado por 33153

Has this been nerfed and nobody mentioned it?

"Electrical Charge cannot be gained more often than once every 2.5 sec."

Everyone talks about it charging up off a single spell, but that doesnt seem possible with that like.

Comentado por Stormwaker

Not to say "DIS HUR B SHMN TINKET" but everytime I here or see the name, I always think of a shaman using it....

That's just me, BUT I've been constantly running Kara every chance I get in the hopes that it'll drop for my elemental shaman.

The day it doesn, I will be a happy orc.

Comentado por 50925

One funny thing no1 noted is :P

You lose the buffs when you die. ^^

Comentado por Gnub

This trinket logically requires 1.21 JIGAWATTS!

Comentado por FinnrSlayer

This trinket is underestimated is many ways. The 2.5 Second Cool down only turns on after you get the lightning bolt from it. On my Elemental Shaman i gotten 3 crits with Chain Lightning and it procs one extra lightning bolt from it. Also the proc crits like mad when you have more spell crit!

Comentado por 120062

i don't know why but it doesn't work at all whit paladin spells, i tried exorcism, holy wrath, JoC, JoR, have yet to try the hammer, i guess it doesn't work whit the holy school of magic :(

Comentado por 175280

Have they changed this item with 2.4.3.???
Used to farm mobs at shadowmoon valley with my paladin dps gear. It proced rather ofthen.
Now it hardly gets activated at all on lower level mobs in the same area.
- soloed a lv70elite, and then it got activated.
- Does it proc seldomer on lower lv mobs? (lv68+)??

:(

Comentado por 162811

This trinket with Flamestrike AE packs in Hyjal is awesome. Extra Lightning bolt every Flamestrike cast is nice.

Comentado por 1925

Procs from Frostbrand Weapon and Flametongue Weapon crits.

Comentado por 154877

My lock really loves this item combined with the Deathfrost enchant on your weapon. Deathfrost can proc in the middle of one of your dots, and it if crits you get a charge. On more than one occasion I simply let my dots take thier course and right in the middle of it, there goes a bolt.

Comentado por 65535_

Ok so im trying to get The Lightning Capacitor tho i dont know what trinket to change im currently using http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29370 with http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30626 i have around 46% spell crit in raids depends if we have a boomkin in my group and im raiding bt content what would be best for me
The Lightning Capacitor whit Icon of the Silver Crescent
or The Lightning Capacitor whit Sextant of Unstable Current

Comentado por Mairn

This trinket procs off critical hits from Flametongue Weapon as well as crits by the Deathfrost enchant. I find this quite convenient when my resto shaman is soloing.

Comentado por 55952

The 2.5 second cooldown on charges doesn't start until a moment after you crit. The result is that if you crit with 2 spells at the same time (e.g. mage Shatter combo), you will still get 2 charges, despite the 2.5 second internal cooldown. In fact, you can crit with any number of spells at the same time and still get that number of charges.

Comentado por Dumdedum

As a fire mage alt, not running SSC, this thing is really $%^&ing me off. Not the item, but not being able to get it.
Seen it 3 times in a year, lost each roll. Once to an elemental shaman, he no longer plays, then to a frost mage, he replaced it a week later with the one from Tidewalker, and today to a horrible demon warlock with a fking 10% crit chance. Doesn't look like I'll be getting it before wotlk

Comentado por 159499

Now that Blizzard crits, this looks like pretty good choice for AoE grinding...

Comentado por Legion19

Combustion and this trinket are an awesome combination. You get 3 spell crit with Comb and release a LB.

Comentado por 22555

Has anyone done any recent testing with a destro lock as of 3.0?
I have a lock alt with this and I haven't actually checked DPS benefits from specific fights, but I'm very seriously considering this. With the trinket, my t4-geared alt lock pulls around 1500DPS in a sustained fight.

With that being said, I'm pretty certain that now that dots can crit (and give us molten core), this trinket will have a lot more procs than prior. Backdraft will also make the crits come quite quickly.

Of course, with my main being a rogue, I can't say I've had an awful lot of time to actually check figures. I'll give it a shot in a raid today on my lock if I can and post my findings.

Comentado por lordkarthas

Redesigned for a green quest reward (new and improved!) in Wrath of the Lich King: Thunder Capacitor.

Comentado por Chewb

This + Mind Sear = Win. Really fun in AV turtles.

Comentado por 640166

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBSj5JsCkAk&feature=related
LOL, common now, its just a trinket

Comentado por 216030

Being brought back in a future raid according to MMO-Champion, called the Variable Pulse Lightning Capacitor:
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/69110/variable-pulse-lightning-capacitor/

+433 Intellect
Requires Level 80
Item Level 391
Equip:You gain an Electrical Charge each time you cause a damaging spell critical strike, granting a chance to fire a Lightning Bolt for 1111 to 1428 damage per Electrical Charge accumulated. You cannot have more than 10 Electrical Charges and cannot gain one more often than once every 2.5 sec.

Comentado por 808403

Guys im a rogue,does it works with me?
Please reply as fast as you can

Comentado por zharshoul

I remember having this as part of my smite cannon set back in bc...
was pushing 40% crit..

got a holy fire proc in bc and launched the bolt on this which one shotted a skettis npc, guy I was grouped with was like " damn your holy fire hits like maiden"

still remember that day

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