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Comentado por Reanna

Has this entry been properly updated? It was believed to have been changed to an instant heal in beta, rather than the exceptionally poor HoT it is now...

Comentado por ezzy

And this procs only on melee hits?

Comentado por 15213

This enchant actually instantly heals the entire party for 300 HP. The description is incorrect.

Comentado por 24929

Do you get any healing aggro from this enchant?

Comentado por 6460

This enchant is not worth the materials. Even if you have multiple of these going at the same time, it's taking up enchant spaces that could be better used elsewhere.

It was difficult to tell in my party, but it looked like the proc DID produce healing aggro for our tank using the enchant. That was helpful, but it's still not worth taking this over all other enchants.

Comentado por 17735

Proc : Heals each member of the group in close vacinity for 180-300hp

-- My Personal Experience --

This is a great enchant. I am currently using 2x1.80 speed daggers and have this chant on both weapons. I am running with a 5v5 arena team and it is simply awsome. In a standard game i do over 7k healing to my party. Remember this is uninteruptable healing and comes from you dps'ing which lets face it, in an arena, thats all you are going to be doing.

As for raiding this chant seems pointless, Stats are a better booster for a rogue, I would suggest Mongoose or 15 agils.

Hope this helps, Cya in the arenas :P

Comentado por 2610

1.6 weapon speed weapon on a warrior, I saw it proc twice in a full steamvaults clear

I want my money back

Comentado por abecx

This enchant appears to have a range on it. I healed for 81k over an entire shadow lab run with 2 rogues a dps paladin and a regular paladin healing. The next run I healed the entire party for a total of 21k with a mage, hunter, holy paladin and rogue. I would say the range is about 5-10 yards, as the ranged players got FAR less total healing than me or the rogue. It procs about once every 25-30 swings on my 2.00 speed millinum blade. Worth the enchant in my book, of course depending on how much materials cost on your server. I spent about 200G for all the materials on mine.

Comentado por 20767

Can we have more comments from people who tried this Enchant ?

Thinking to use it for PvE (DW Shaman).

With Haste stuff , this might proc nicely!

Comentado por 28670

Tested today, it does produce threat!

My friend ran into a group of mobs to agro them, I then beat on one. When it the proc happened all the mobs started attacking me.

Comentado por 27559

I certainly will be trying this DW Shaman with +healing gear on.
Sure to be ridiculous, or stupid! Either way good fun :O

Comentado por 6780

I'm pretty sure this is a proc per minute like fiery or other weapon enchants so the weapon speed is meaningless. Also +healing won't effect just like it doesn't effect crusader.

Comentado por 6202

More good comments, as well as a couple ProcWatch screenshots @ http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=28004

The enchant is wonderful. Averages 2.1 proc/min for me, as well as usually doing around 8% of the healing in my usualy 5-man group. It usually out-heals out shammy off-healer.

Comentado por Ladrial

I just enchanted my MH last night with it...
I have the chance to try it on Karazhan and on Heroic.
What i have to say is FOR NO reason enchant a weapon with this enchant... Its really bad... The proc rate is awfull,like once per 5 Minutes for me... And no i am not joking now. I use a 1.8 MH and i have Slice and Dice all the time up,and on both runs i even have Windfurry...

I am SOOOO dissapointed from it,and frankly i dont understand why ppl above said that it procs often,maybe they are enchanters and want to sell it idk...

Well Blizzard SHOULD really buff this ,cause atm its useless 100%. Even 2 set Tier 3 Heals for A LOT MORE. Even crusader heal yourself for MORE.

Oh and it doesnt have any glow....

Comentado por dampunge

i'm really sad to hear this.... got of those easyfarming fireelementals for blade edge's mountains.
my guild were planing to use it later in the game, but if the prugrate are as low as you say we might reconsider:S

Comentado por tappertrainman

This enchant is incredible. I'm a protection-spec tank, and got this enchant on my Vindicator's Brand just before a run through Shattered Halls last night. I did 15% of the group's healing and all of the heals count for threat also.

Well worth it to me.

Comentado por Ladrial

I find it EXTREMLY hard to believe that you did 15% of the grp healing... You propably count earth shield/prayer of mending... Also as someone posted doesnt really generate aggro,and even if it does its too low anyway to care. But with a proc once every 5 mins ,or in arenas once every 5 games who cares about it.

Comentado por 15443

A guildy said that it was nerfed in the last minor patch, and that it used to be a HoT and now it's a straight heal but he has no idea if any of the threat mechanics of it were changed.

Comentado por 9596

As a lvl 70 Port spec Warrior, I have this on my MH FireGuard Sword, (1.6 speed) and while i don't notice it going off a lot, I do run damage meters, and with this as my only healing ability I usually do about 5-9% of the group healing during groups. When I am out of group, I see roughly random, but 2-3 procs per minute on it. It isn't going to replace a healer, but it does the job, and if I run, say some lowly instance like ZF, It will heal me enough that I almost don't ever have to heal , un less I get like 8 mobs on me at a time, then I still only get down to 1/2 health. I have a theory that it has different proc rate on different level mobs, like for 70+elite mobs, maybe it porcs less.

Comentado por 37446

ok, i am an enchanter on Mug'thol, this enchant, and its counter part spell surge are going for 1.8k+ gold, and i paid for the thing, having seen it in effect, AND how many people want this enchant, i was in a group farming heroic ramparts and blood furnace for 8 hours just yesterday, and i have damage meters, threat meters, mods out the ears for raiding and such, and this does have a crusader-like proc rating and yes it causes threat, for those of you saying it doesnt proc and doesnt cause threat, get new info. on a tank it isnt a great enchant compared to stuff thats out there, but for a DPS melee class (rogue, enh shaman etc.) its wonderful with a fast attack speed can make trash pulls a heal free ordeal with the proc going off enough to keep everyone alive, but i do think this is a much better pvp then pve enchant. might be a must have for thsoe 25 mans tho

Comentado por 24167

Can anyone confirm whether or not this drops of the "Bladespire Raptors" in Blade's Edge Mountains?

I tried looking elsewhere for this info, but it seems nobody can do anything but cry about the proc rates and how good/bad it is.

Thanks

Comentado por Thorkos

Thorkos can do this on Azgalor Horde Side. pst or mail me and i will get back to you.

Comentado por 13182

I just cant understand why formula says: "Use: Teaches you how to permanently enchant a weapon to give a chance on striking to heal your party of 50 damage over 10 seconds." and enchant u learn from it sais: "Permanently enchant a Melee Weapon to occasionally heal nearby party members of 180 to 300 health when an enemy is struck. Requires a level 35 or higher item." Got the formula yesterday (04.04.07) and yes ... it is like I said oO. Between 50 and 180-300 there is a little huge difference ...

Comentado por 31563

Important to note:

All these people reporting that they did 15% or 10% of their 5-man group's healing are probably ignoring Prayer of Mending. PoM counts as healing done by the person it heals, just like battlemaster. As the person above who posted their log showed, only 8.6% of his own healing (which was only 25% of the group's healing) was from this enchant. Other sources include pots, trinkets, bandages, and other things. But the big one people don't always know about is Prayer of Mending. Just mouse over your name on Damage Meters and you'll see that most of that healing you did was in fact NOT the Battlemaster enchant.

A guildy of mine, after reading this page, decided to get the encahnt and has been disappointed. I think it's misleading to people to have all these comments about "I can do 10% of my group's healing now!" To be honest, I think the effect is pretty minimal in terms of actual reliable healing. As a tank, I'd recommend you get Mongoose if you can afford it.

Comentado por Phioner

I got this formula from sunfury mob near Black Temple. Rare drop. Im myself a enchanter, but anyway sold it in AH for 600g. Didn't think that many are going to take this. This isn't really a good endgaming enchant.

Comentado por 23380

Did wowhead change the "Drops From" tab? Says this enchant ONLY drops from heroic mechanar, but I thought it was a world drop?

Comentado por 33541

I was going to ask the same Keha... I saw it as a world drop, but from time to time, all of mobs has been removed and now it's a heroic drop ?!

Comentado por loramer

I have been completely underwhelmed by this enchant. Bought it 3 days ago for my lvl 39 twink rogue thinking that this would make a huge difference in the battlegrounds, seeing as it is an end-game enchant and would allow me to help heal our party. After looking through the combat logs for 3 days of battlegrounds, I noticed why i wasn't noticing a difference in the battlegrounds. The proc rate on this enchant seems to be nearly nill.

Just as a comparison, the poison that i had applied (which has a 20% proc rate) procced on average 45 times per battleground. This enchant procced on average once per battleground, healing me and anyone within 10 yards of me for 200-300. Based on the information I have gathered the proc rate is approximately 1 proc/225 hits (on my 1.90 speer dagger) and will only heal party memebers within 10 yards.

In other words, it basically did nothing but waste my 450 gold.

Comentado por 45790

This enchant is a absoulate JOKE^^

I am an OT in my guild and I wantted to do something extra in raids with heal and threat by getting this enchant. But I slayed half of Terokkar Forest and I got only one proc. Seriously ONE. I can also say it didn't proc in whole our Magtheridon trials for almost 4 hours.

I also sent tickets to GMs. They just say that it procs, and they tested it. I linked my sword which is King's Defender and they said they will send a bug report to see if the sword itself has something to fix.

Stay away from this enchant, at least wait for a patch or something.

Comentado por pingzing

Did some testing, and found that the proc rate is roughly 1 PPM (Procs Per Minute). Over 20 minutes and 2 seconds, it procced exactly 20 times.

In a previous test, it procced 9 times in 13 minutes and 46 seconds.

In the second, 20 minute test I hit 2502 times, and missed 44 times, for a total of 2546 swings. So even if the enchant was Chance on Hit, the chance would be about .1% which simply isn't the case.

Test was done with a 70 rogue on the invincible Servants in Blasted Lands. Slice and Dice was kept up all the time, and every two minutes I would use Blade Flurry and the Abacus of Violent odds, with just breaks to bandage and apply poisons once in a while.

Hope this helps your decision to buy this enchant.

Comentado por Sadistin

Would Righteous Fury create additional threat with the proc from this enchant?

Yes, I'm a tankadin.

Comentado por 48582

is it good for a tank ? on the sun eater ?

Comentado por alron

Does anyone know if the proc rate or anything else has changed in 2.1 ?

It seems as if Mongoose is the best for a tanking Prot Warrior. But wanna make sure before I enchant my weapon.

Comentado por 59127

i have this enchant on my i find it pretty good enchant, and im not going to say i do a ton of healing with it, cause i dont think i do, but i do love to see the +256 above all my party members heads, and im a tank, so i do see it created a ideal amount of threat, i think it was a good investment for me, idk if you have the money to spend to get the matts, but im not going to say its cheap

Comentado por Auroch

Dropped in regular Mech for me.

Comentado por 33644

does +spelldamage an healing improve this enchant ?

Comentado por Schwarzkopf

If you're a tank in Karazhan / Gruul's Lair gear or higher, get Mongoose over this enchant. Your threat generation should be high enough already and 120 agility is around +4% dodge, and procs quite often from what I've seen.

Comentado por 13521

Did some testing. 52 sword spec rogue, bloodrazor in MH (fiery). Used procwatch and sws to count procs over 1,000 attacks (per procwatch).

Offhand: Hanzo with battlemaster:
190 2 fiery procs
11 Battlemaster procs for ~2500 healing

Offhand: thrash blade with lifestealing:
232 fiery procs (dunno why the higher rate here, it is in MH so maybe i got off more special attacks)
96 lifesteal procs for about 2800 healing (plus dmg)
10 thrash procs (extra attack from thrash blade)

I wanted to try this enchant out to see if it was useful for grinding, perhaps delivering more healing than lifestealing.

My conclusions:

1) Lifestealing > battlemaster for solo'ing unless the proc rate is level dependent.

2) I can't see how this would be that useful in pve instancing for a dps class. In most cases, the heals would be overheals assuming the tank is the only one taking dmg.

3) I can't see using this enchant for pvp. Even if MH chant procs were 4x more frequent, the healing benefit is minimal when considered against stam and burst dmg.

4) I suppose it could help a pally tank, but i would expect mongoose to be more effective at dmg mitigation for both pallies and warriors.

So unless Blizzard changes the proc rate, I'd advise everyone to avoid this chant in favor of lifestealing (if you're on a budget) or mongoose.

Comentado por 93384

I am wondering, I'm about to make a 29 Retri Paladin Twink. So which enchant should I put on http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6804? It is a 35+ weapon. Would it be worth it to take Battlemaster or should I take Crusader / Mongoose?

Comentado por Blodyavenger

It does threat, what means, it's good for tanks. In same time, tank will make some healing for others and gain threat for himself.

I still have question thou, does it heal yourself?

Comentado por Theolol

The threat caused by a player that proccs Battlemaster healing someone, is the same as a healer would for the same ammount (before calculating any types of buffs or debuffs to threat).

Also worthy of note is that threat from healing only happens when HP has been actually healed. It does not take place when it's overhealing.

So if you have a fight where only the tank is usually taking damage, a Battlemaster procc will be even less useful since only the tank is getting some healing and threat from it.

Comentado por 107105

Does this heal yourself as well?

Comentado por 107395

Does the healing get any bonus from healing gear?

Comentado por 24111

Link to the spell http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=28005

Notable facts:

Effect Heal
Value: 180 to 300
Radius: 30 yards - Important
School Arcane (WTF!?) I really hope it's Wowhead's mistake, 'couse this way NO for Righteous Fury benefit (Meta/Darkmoon Heal/Damage is counted as holy and does benefit from Righteous Fury, so this as Arcane sounds a bit weird).

Comentado por 10128

If it hasn't been said before, healing done by you also includes healing from Earth Shield.

This is a great enchant to be used by raiding rogues, warriors or shaman, but it's only going to be worth it if at least 2 or 3 of them use it at the same time. On many occasions it can be a life saver.

The actual problem is the fact that no rogue will ever want to reduce his DPS for survivability, but then it's their problem if they die, not mine.

(A feral druid.)

Comentado por csnick

Does anyone know for sure if this procs with hunters autoshots? or does it have to be melee attacks

Comentado por 131369

Okay I tried this out, after reading a very detailed post about how this enchant, on paper is more threat/tps for a tank than mongoose.

I will say that I was NOT impressed with this enchant on my weapon. It does not proc often, and did not generate much threat if any. The healing was minor, and if the group doesnt need healing it does not count towards threat (Im using Blazeguard as my weapon)

So for a prot warrior, I dont suggest getting this enchant - try Executioner or Mongoose

Comentado por Khabal

Dropped for a guildy in Magisters' Terrace (normal) today.

Comentado por 142059

Is there anything else that heals party members for non-healers? I know of the many self heal methods but this is the only party heal I've seen.

Comentado por 145058

so is this enchant good for tanks or not? and...
Does it heal u if u solo mobs and you are not in group?
Dose the proc have an inner cooldown (hidden CD) ?
Does the healing get any bonus from healing gear or plus healing taking buffs ?

Comentado por 61888

how would this work in a let us say a 5vs5 arena with 4 rogues and 1 healer wich all got this enchant on both weapons? any got a idea of how this would work? (don't rate me down for asking question)

Comentado por Morguean

Personally, I think I may be one of the few tanks on my server who use this, but Its the only enchant I have ever had on my kings defender. I dont know that the Threat is generates is a selling point, I enjoy the heals it does give out.

it has helped me in many situations: Soloing, farming lower instances, even keeping a group alive in a heroic while the healer was dead.

I have never agreed that it was a useless enchant for a tank, nor do I agree with the mongoose/executioner enchants. I dont have a problem with people using em, and im not gonna go to war with someone who doesnt, I just beleive that its the tanks individual choice based on what he/she feels most comfortable with.

Comentado por 173617

Maybe kinda stupid question, but does it get bonus from http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=25780 ? (does this heal count as holy?)

Comentado por 172532

Ide much rather have something more effective for the raid, like Exe for TPS, and goose for avoidance, than something that makes you better at heroics and farming. If you enchant, enchant for the raid.

Comentado por 112611

Weapon enchants are now shown at the character selection screen.

Comentado por NeoBlackheart

This is actually one of the best paladin tanking enchants I could find. We get hardly any of our dps from attacks so when when you throw TPS with a heal its fun. The only better one pre 3.0.2 patch is the spell power one when the patch is out I can see only this one.

Comentado por prelude

I just want to emphasize how horrible this enchant is. To the point where I have to scour my entire entire combat log to find it proc 1 time, in the hundreds and hundreds of combat log lines. It's so horrible. soooooo bad.

Comentado por Brunk

From my experiences leveling from 60 as a prot warrior, with a 1.60 speed weapon–The Crusader enchant far surpasses this one. In 20 mobs using Battlemaster, the proc went off twice. In 20 mobs using Crusader, it procced 14 times. Personally, I would recomment Crusader over this.

Comentado por 303546

I was wondering, what kind of glow effect does this enchant make on your weapon?
I know this is rather off topic, but i was curious.

Comentado por 136376

Ok - I tested this enchant along with Earthliving Weapon, I am a resto shamy that was at 20% health to make the proc rate of earthliving 100% on heals, using a 1.4 speed dagger I proced the heal 3-4 times (it has painstakingly large amounts of time between procs)...

Battlemaster does NOT proc Earthliving

I was testing this in the hope of giving the raid off-heals as a boredom test... NOBODY has this enchant in thier book so I waited days to get it... a disappointment indeed

Links to all the thingies involved

Earthliving Weapon: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=51994
Battlemaster Enchant: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22557
Sacrificial Kiris (of Power): http://www.wowhead.com/?item=3187

past that I was gearless hitting a druid of all things so it dodged.... and dodged.... and dodged a little more - needless to say the surrounding duelers got a kick out of me stabbing a kitty

Comentado por Lycana

Looking for this recipe on Dreadmaul.

Horde character - Velox

Whisper me in game. ^_^

Comentado por Sapreena

So am I seeing this correctly? That this enchantment recipe is extraordinarily rare? Like to the point that you wont see it at all most likely lol. I only ask because I want to know if its worth it to ever apparently farm it but from the looks of it if the numbers are correct that answer is a resounding no.

Comentado por Aglaia

I am looking for this recipe for more than 2 years.
Saw it now on Uldaman on alliance AH for 3500g.
Unfortunately wrong realm :-(

Comentado por 764305

got it whilst farming TK for a missing tailoring recipe for my priest. With the ability to quickly AOE down mobs I think if you are missing few recipes it is worth farming BC raids such as TK, SSC and SWP where mobs can be reset.

Still not got the tailoring recipe so will be back in a few times I would imagine

Comentado por Elladaow

Currently have this formula for sale on the Tanaris server - Alliance side.
if interested contact Elladaow or Ellarine in game.

Comentado por Iliad

This enchant appears to be useful for twinkies, arenas and as a collector piece. Still very rare and pricing will very on AH.

Wowuction Tanaris: ~14k
Tuj: 15 - 16k
Wowhead: 15k

Demand for the item is non-existent perhaps because the enchant is so rare and that no one has a use for the item other than stated above. Hell mongoose doesn't sell and that enchant was from the same era. Mongoose drop is common now. No longer rare.

Please contribute to thread to help understand its worth and potential usefulness. MOP 5.2.

TONS of people are asking about this enchant. In 2007 the enchant had several uses. If I remember correctly Arena came out after most of these posts on here.

Comentado por Varinn

i looted this off the first set of trash in kara while farming the fiery warhorse

Comentado por Ragestatus

I just looted this formula off of the Esqueleto Enfurecido and Esqueleto Enraivecido in Catacumbas Auchenai while farming for Fórmula: Encantamento de Destreza - Botas. Complete surprise!

Comentado por casonator

Just sold this on Borean Tundra - Alliance for 15k. Now I'm thinking I should have put it up for more.... The guy who bought it has (I think) nearly every enchant in the game except those that are unobtainable. Seems to be worth putting up for a ton just to fish for someone looking to complete their spellbook.

Comentado por Dustpann

Just had this drop from trash in Magisters' Terrace, while farming for other enchants. Came here looking for a price, and it sure was tempting to sell based on the 15k buyout listed, but seeing as i'm a collector, i learnt it.

Pays to loot all trash while running all BC instances

Comentado por 1026612

6.1 patch notes: nerfed battlemaster enchant from healing your party by 240; to 102. Rofl. So trivial why do they even put it into patch notes? What dev went and said ''hey look guys battlemaster is healing for a whopping 300 health we must nerf it to 120''?

yet there is a bonus armor exploit that has been going on for well over 5 months making tank specs do 2-3x the damage of dps specs, all while having 5x the mitigation also gained from bonus armor in every pvp bracket(heck tanks, specifically BM monks do such large damage they dont even need bonus armor)

and all these ''blizzard developers'' can do is change 5 items and then believe they fixed the issue?
when there are thousands of bonus armor items? Its like they need every item listed and handed out on a silver platter to even begin to attempt to fix it

tl;dr why are blizzard devs such incompetent ROFL THEY EDITED THIS POST LIKE 3 TIMES so it makes no sense ..usual blizz drones(##RESPBREAK##)16##DELIM##Sas148##DELIM##

Comentado por 1026612

I got downvoted 6 times for this

for saying that they went out of the way to nerf the completely useless Enchant Weapon : Battlemaster

yet they cant go out of the way to nerf something like elemental force(which is insane at low level, it is LITERALLY an IWIN button, lvl 10-30 does 200 damage , can be dual wielded for 2x effect, procs every 10 seconds, bypasses armor , almost unmitigatable ) or Crusader with 100 Str at lvl 10( 100 str is like a lvl 640 Ring) Or Landslide.

Or hunter proc scopes. Its like the devs used those 5 enchants themselves or something and didn't to squish them so they could level faster

Comentado por fathom81

sold one for 150g before coming here to check the price, gg for me.

Comentado por LaffiBoozegnome

Dropped in Karazhan 10.09.2020.

Comentado por Perf15

got off shattered halls normal trash

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