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Comentado por 975108

This trinket just looks amazing.. 13% flat haste mastery and crit healing... omnomnom... Do wonder what the ICD/RPPM will be on the proc though.

Comentado por jodin

After a test on the PTR, this trinket increase only your critical Healing by 13%. It's does not increase your critical spell as hast and mastery. Actually is a bad trinket for holy paladin, with low stat crit/hast and random proc intellect.

Comentado por TheWheatOne

7% boost, healers only

In other words, if you see an intellect dps Need roll on this, shoot him down for failure to read the fine print and saying "tl;dr" in his mind as he does so. It will happen, as that 7% boost is tempting.

Comentado por bruyneelka

The proc on the second equip is called Titanic Restoration.

Comentado por binkenstein

The Critical Bonus effect for this trinket works like Fúria Elemental and , which multiply with Diamante Primevo Flamejante and other meta gems

The math works out like this:

( ( Base Critical Bonus * Meta Bonus ) - 1 ) * ( 1 + Critical Bonus effect 1 ) * ( 1 + Critical Bonus effect 2 ) = Critical Strike Bonus

( ( 2 * 1.03 ) - 1 ) * 1.07 = 1.1021 or 210.21% total

Comentado por 775714

It reads good at the first glance, but in practice, the LFR version gave me 0.4% mastery, 0,31% haste, and less crit than the int on Contemplação de Chi-Ji - yes, the 496 version (Ilvl 510 holy paladin twink). It´s too late for math, but it puts it at about 500-600 worth of yellow stats combined + cca. 600 Spirit. This is just plain poor, and I seriously doubt it gets much better with higher gear or better versions of the item.

*UPDATE: Here's how it looks (pala grew up to ilvl 520): http://postimg.org/image/994ks0y11/

And IMO a 2-min INT proc is complete nonsense for healers.

IMO, total and utter trash, DPS may have it if they want it ^^

(And someone just went and downvoted the whole page?...)

Comentado por lipslips

The way this trinket works is the following:

It amplifies your existing secondary stat ratings. This means at 10000 haste, you gain 700 haste, or just under 2%. If you have 18000 haste (42%), you gain 1260 haste, or just about 3%. It simply scales up with your gear. The trinket only uses your secondary stats to determine the amplification, ignoring anything that doesn't touch ratings.

Thus this trinket works best for single-stat focused specs like arcane mages. If you have low item level gear or balanced secondary stats, this trinket won't do much for you.

The critical damage/healing, as already explained by others, is another effect of this trinket, in place of a crit rating increase. It takes the final damage/healing numbers after all modifiers and increases them by another 7%. This also means that it's going to be the BiS trinket for Discipline priests, ~~due to the double-dipping nature of atonement.~~ As proven by others, it doesn't actually double-dip on atonement due to criticals being cut into critical and non-critical halves, meaning it does the same for disc priests as for any other class and spec.

Comentado por Kryshy

Does anyone know if the Intellect proc from this trink shares an internal cooldown with other Intellect trinkets such as Insígnia Polida de Nazgrim?

Comentado por voluptas

Anyone else completely underwhelmed by this trinket?.. I am sitting on ilvl 549 as a holy paladin, and i see little point keeping this trinket, even though many people and guides list it as best in slot.. Using the 553 version with 2/2 upgrade

"Equip: Amplifies your Critical Strike damage and healing, Haste, Mastery, and Spirit by 7%.
Equip:"

I am haste build so it makes reaching the 15th tick point easier with the bonus to haste.. but the crit it adds is negligible since i have very little (about 16%), as is mastery (21%). It adds around 1500 mana regen too, which i suppose is ok.

I tested the trinket for 100 casts of holy light and divine light ignoring procs, not your "go to" spells i admit, but surprising results.

100x holy light.. avg normal 51,045, avg crit 104,150
100x divine light.. avg normal 94,100, avg crit 195,120

I replaced the trinket with a haste melee trinket and reran the numbers. Centelha de Zandalar

100x holy light.. avg normal 50,925, avg crit 101,050
100x divine light.. avg normal 94,140, avg crit 189,155

I then tried a strength trinket and reran the numbers again. Olhar das Gêmeas

100x holy light.. avg normal 50,985, avg crit 101,070
100x divine light.. avg normal 94,030, avg crit 188,995

I then re-equipped the PPoP and reran again to make sure i wasnt mad

100x holy light.. avg normal 51,105, avg crit 104,130
100x divine light.. avg normal 94,090, avg crit 194,990

So normal Holy light are pretty much the same as with the melee haste or strength trinkets... fine. to be expected.
Crit holy light gain a bit, but its hardly gamechanging... and most of it will be overhealing anyway.

Same for Divine light, and presumably all my other spells... Plus the proc is once per 2 mins.. I see no point keeping this trinket and will be switching back to my int one with mana return Último Suspiro de Horridon asap. The numbers on the tooltip are quite misleading.. as can be seen from other comments on here.. For those expecting their crit , haste, spirit and mastery to go up by 7-8%, it wont.. its ratings only. so 16% crit wont become 24% it will become 16.3% or something thereabouts.

Anyone else out there got any feelings about this trinket from a holy paladin point of view?

Comentado por Keldion

Take note that the different item level versions of this trinket and Ataduras Purificadas de Immerseus have a linear scaling; the trinket tooltip rounds up to the nearest number.

The scaling formula is equal to 1.15^((trinket ilvl - 553) / 15) * 7%.

EDIT: Summary of the item level bonuses can be found here.

Comentado por Cainite

Important point: the proc does not check for talent specialization but for LOOT specialization. In other words, if you're running Flex/LFR hoping for offspec drops, this trinker will not proc even if you are healing.

I HOPE it is not intentional, but if it is... Well, that makes about as much sense as MoP talent system and flavour items usable only in Pandaria combined, so I would not put it past Blizzard.

That point aside, it's quite good for a Disc priest. It doubledips - damage dealt is amplified by 7% and then healing, equal to already amplified damage, is further increased by another 7%. I have noticed the difference immediately.

Comentado por Aldones

Ampliefied Value

0/2: 7.00000%
1/2: 7.26581%
2/2: 7.54172%

Source: Keldion's DOT/HOT Haste Calculations 5.4. Because Keldion works for SimCraft, he has access to Blizzards actual tables.

Comentado por Bluesius

If anyone is interested in the exact scaling values; here they are:
463 Challenge Mode 0.43233 3.02629 3
528 LFR 0.79220 5.54543 6
532 LFR 1/2 Upgrade 0.82229 5.75600 6
536 LFR 2/2 Upgrade 0.85351 5.97458 6
540 Flex 0.88592 6.20145 6
544 Flex 1/2 Upgrade 0.91956 6.43694 6
548 Flex 2/2 Upgrade 0.95448 6.68137 7
553 Normal 1.00000 7.00000 7
557 N 1/2 Upgrade 1.03797 7.26581 7
559 N Warforged 1.05750 7.40248 7
561 N 2/2 Upgrade 1.07739 7.54172 8
563 N Warforged 1/2 1.09765 7.68357 8
567 N Warforged 2/2 1.13933 7.97534 8
566 Heroic 1.12877 7.90138 8
570 H 1/2 Upgrade 1.17163 8.20142 8
572 H Warforged 1.19367 8.35568 8
574 H 2/2 Upgrade 1.21612 8.51285 9
576 H Warforged 1/2 1.23900 8.67297 9
580 H Warforged 2/2 1.28604 9.00231 9

Procc is called "Titanic Restoration", here is a WeakAura for it:
dCYubaGlPsnxaMTeUnkTtLYEj7MQ9JQ8tPcddv(nObdjdhvvhuQYXGyPs0YH6PuwgQkpxktuQQPQQjRsth5Qkrxw46OyZkvBhs9zGESKgnGmEPIoPs6waQtl68sLCyf)vfttjSq0llLT6uG3NAayTc9gGEvGYaDWgoD6Z4Gb0pllUmdUCY75tA8dhISMm(6MtgRSRSREzfW5Qxggwe6LXYuqPErIejJWjiyG1lZh2OPxBiY(KgpR8qvgncIhkHUirY6SJ99wqAd4fCCYCg2hNGGbUPnez5v2N04zLhQYOrq8qj0LHdWe6Fx8hYYk0fjB0l7tA8SYdvz0iiEOe6YwDkW7tnaSwHEdqVkqzGoydNo9zCWa6NLfxMbxo598jn(HdrKm0AdzbcNija

Comentado por Aldones

Ampliefied Value

0/2: 7.90138%
1/2: 8.20142%
2/2: 8.51285%

Source: Keldion's DOT/HOT Haste Calculations 5.4. Because Keldion works for SimCraft, he has access to Blizzards actual tables.

Comentado por Bluesius

Comentado por bathazar

Heroic Warforged upgraded 4/4 (with new patch) brings value up to 10%, so it's worth upgrading.

Heroic version does not reach the 10% threshold so it's not worth upgrading to over 2/4 unless you really want that extra 1000 int, save the valor for something else.

Comentado por Aldones

Ampliefied Value

0/2: 6.20145%
1/2: 6.43697%
2/2: 6.68137%

Source: Keldion's DOT/HOT Haste Calculations 5.4. Because Keldion works for SimCraft, he has access to Blizzards actual tables.

Comentado por Bluesius

Comentado por Amberley

Good to note for druids calculating your new haste breakpoint, the tooltip says 6% to various statistics at item level 528.
However, the real amount it increases with is 5.55%.
At first upgrade (ilvl 528+4) this is 5.76%

This makes the popular haste breakpoint of 12.5% (3043 rating) for Rejuvenation, attainable at 2885 haste rating with this trinket equipped.
The haste breakpoint for the next Rejuvenation tick at 37.52% will be reached with 12471 haste rating with this trinket.

Comentado por Shepherdess

The proc is called Titanic Restoration and it will proc out of combat.... if anyone cares. :)

Comentado por johannhowitzer

6% doesn't seem accurate. I had 3041 Haste without the trinket, then put the trinket on and Haste became 3210, which is an increase of 5.557%. Math, Blizzard?

Edit: did some more testing over seven different haste values.

3041 > 3210 = 1.055573824399868
3216 > 3394 = 1.055348258706468
3386 > 3574 = 1.055522740696988
3549 > 3746 = 1.055508593970132
3730 > 3937 = 1.055495978552279
3992 > 4213 = 1.055360721442886
4157 > 4388 = 1.055568919894154

Average of those seven = 1.055482719666111

I think you should be fine assuming 5.55% (x 1.0555), as long as you allow for 1 haste for rounding. (If anyone out there uses a big spreadsheet and math like I do.)

Comentado por Aldones

Ampliefied Value

0/2: 5.54543%
1/2: 5.75600%
2/2: 5.97458%

Source: Keldion's DOT/HOT Haste Calculations 5.4. Because Keldion works for SimCraft, he has access to Blizzards actual tables.

Comentado por Bluesius

Comentado por Alexandrias

Do they not update the images? Calculations above are probably right, just not what you read on the trinket's description. The Flex version I just received says 6% in the image description as well.

Comentado por Aldones

Ampliefied Value

0/2: 7.40248%
1/2: 7.68357%
2/2: 7.97534%

Source: Keldion's DOT/HOT Haste Calculations 5.4. Because Keldion works for SimCraft, he has access to Blizzards actual tables.

Comentado por Bluesius

Comentado por 1138333

Omg this is epic xD

Comentado por Aldones

Ampliefied Value

0/2: 8.35568%
1/2: 8.67297%
2/2: 9.00231%

Source: Keldion's DOT/HOT Haste Calculations 5.4. Because Keldion works for SimCraft, he has access to Blizzards actual tables.

Comentado por Bluesius

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Comentado por duneking

i have 4/4 Version of that trinket, there is a bug, if you Change your gear you have to unequip the trinket and equip it again.
if you don´t do that the stats are wrong calculated

i tested it with my weapon+shield, and earthliving haste cap 10.513

without unequiping+equiping trinket i had 10424 haste -> just 5 earthliving ticks
then i unequiped the trinket and equiped it again -> 10561 haste and 6 earthliving ticks

sorry for my bad english

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