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Comentado por 7344

Seems like Blizz is trying to get around the problem of Druids wanting both DPS and tanking sets by making an all in one. In the past this would suck, but in TBC it could work.

Bear AC is now 450% (was 360%) and HP by 40% (up from 1200) This means that AC that is about right for cat form is now good for bear, same for stamina.

We will have to see if this works though

Comentado por caleser

I wonder how the stats on this set will play into the new raid system with 25 man raid cap. Usually in smaller raids, guilds pick resto druids over feral ones. But, with the feral gear we see blizz implementing into the expansion, maybe more guilds will start taking feral druids for tanking and dps purposes.

Comentado por skelemence

I agree with above posts, Leader of the Pack and Moonkin Aura are great buffs which can seriously up the damage done. Shame only resto druids are allowed :(

Probably because most of the loot is resto the raid leader says that if you are balance/feral you can't roll on resto gear. Happened to a friend of mine who wanted to be shadowpriest at a raid.

Comentado por Detton

There isn't a whole lot of crit or hit rating, so remember to boost that up with non-set/other pieces as best as you can. Luckily, there's five pieces (and you only need 4 for the set bonuses) so this is easily doable.

The 2-piece set bonus is amazing. The 4-piece is great, but it's not as good as the 2-piece. This gives you leeway to pick up the 2-piece set bonus from, perhaps, another feral set.

The gauntlets and the leggings have no sockets. The gauntlets, however, have crit rating (but no agility) so if you were to pick out pieces to not get, I would start with one of those (depending on what gear you currently have)

Comentado por 26001

Does anyone know if the bearform AC multiplier affects the 1400AC from the 4-piece bonus?

Comentado por 15262

The 4 piece armor bonus is to make up for the fact that many of the pieces have such terrible armor. Is it enough? Nope.

Comentado por 31205

In wich raids does these tier4 parts drops?

Comentado por 31205

or dungeons? :)

Comentado por lithander

I fail to get what this set aims to be. I mean it's a feral set, that's obvious, but what is a feral supposed to do with it?

Tanking --- It doesn't have a lot of armor. It has no resilience or defense, (direly needed to become critt immune) and the amount of stamina is a joke: even rogues got 40 more on their T4 set.

Kitty-Dps --- Is there any raid that has a feral druid on a pure dps spot? Well, even if there is one he won't be happy about Spirit and Intelect on his set. Neither about crit rating instead of Agility.

Offhealer/Dps --- Okay lets pretend the intellect is for when you got to help with healing. But spirit is still about useless for that and more important: where is the +healing? A moonglade style set would be far better for that role.

Bottomline: Gladiator's Sanctuary is the better feral druid set not only in PvP but also in PvE.

Comentado por Tentonaxe

This set is easily the best set for bear tanking in the game right now. Although it has less stamina and agility than the T5, it does have more armor, and a better balance of stats. This allows the druid to DPS very well, backup and heal someone if needed, and Offtank when it is needed. Personally i would advise not getting the gloves if u have the other 4 pieces, and instead getting http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30943 Verdant gloves, from a quest in shadowmoon. They are the highest armor gloves in the game, and add a decent amount of stamina and agility, these should be enchanted with +15 agility to add that much more dodge and armor. Another reason i feel this is the best tanking set for druids at the moment is because of the set bonuses. the set bonuses in T5 are more pvp oriented, and the T4 set bonuses are better for PvE. For dps, a chance at getting 20 extra energy will allow for more shreds, and getting 10 extra rage on an attack can add up quickly with spamming lacerate and maul.

As far as talent spec goes, i would go far enough into resto to get Natures Swiftness, and the rest in feral. in doing so you lose mangle, but in a raid stiuation where you are the only feral druid, mangle is not very important. They did add a 50% bonus threat to mangle's damage, but i find that it is easy enough to hold aggro with lacerate and maul alone.

Comentado por Taelidan

For the residential fashionwhore, should you want the remaining "pieces" of the set when it comes to looks, they are as follows:

Wrist - Bracers of the White Stag (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28453)

Waist - Cord of Nature's Sustenance (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28655)

Feet - Forestlord Striders (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28752)

Comentado por Rishadan

Changes to this set in patch 2.1.0 are:

Head:

+90armor
+1str
+2agi
-14spi

Shoulders:

+54armor
-8int
-13spi

Chest:

Changes unknown

Gloves:

+166armor
-3int
-12spi

Leggings:

+216armor
+5int
-16spi

Comentado por 22941

the thing which is wrong abt every druid set is that gloves armor is not even close to that of vedant gloves.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30943

Comentado por 51880

is this armour increase real, cos thats nice. that was the only thing i didnt like about tier 4, that i had sum greens or blues that had more armour or even stats but with the armour, stats, gems slots, and the armour increase of 1400 for 4 pieces of the set, this should make for sum sexy tankage and dps. Also keep in mind if ur an all out feral, u should hav heart of the wild making strength a lot better than straight out attack power so this will be nooiiiicee!!!

Comentado por 50870

<Expected Efficiency of the 2-set bonus (in cat form)>:

According to http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=37311#z0z , the proc chance of 2-set bonus in cat form is 4%. That is an expected proc of 20 energy per 25 attacks, including normal attacks and special attacks.

Assuming that the cat uses mangle as special attacks. The cat generates 20 energy every 2 seconds (without Omen), so it takes 4 seconds to use 1 mangle. That equals 0.25 mangle in 1 sec. Added to the normal 1 attack per second, yielding 1.25 attacks per second.

So it takes 20 seconds for the cat to attack 25 times, and generating 20 addition energy from the 2-set bonus.

As a result,
<expected energy generted per 2 second>=(20 energy/20 sec) x 2 +20= 22 energy per 2 seconds.

Meanwhile, a rogue with 5/5 combat potency and a 1.5 speed offhand would normally generate 24 energy per 2 seconds.

Comentado por cucmw5

Am I the only one who thinks this armor looks more skin-tight than the last few druid sets? Looks great on night elf women... I digress...

Comentado por 49206

Excuse me, who is Malorne?

Comentado por Buuuz

I dont know why but :

Тier 6 3152 *4,0 = 12608 armor

Тier 4 2674 *4,0 = 10696 +1400(set bonus) =12096 armor

512 armor difference? WHY? :*(

Without any talents ....

So I must said: "No comments..."

Comentado por mojojojo101

Why does this set have NO defense rating ????

Comentado por 20678

I think that the 4 pieces cat bonus should be redesigned, as HOTW doesn't buff strength anymore. It should be changed to Attack power IMO.

Comentado por D4NK

this is one of the variations of the tier 4 set for druids.

The tier 4 tokens are found in Karazhan (a 10 man instance with a lengthy attunement). Gruuls lair (a 25 man with no attunement) And Magtheridons lair (also a 25 man with no attunement).

Helm of the Fallen ___ (Head): Prince Malchezaar, Karazhan
Pauldrons of the Fallen ___ (Shoulders): High King Maulgar, Gruul's Lair
Chestguard of the Fallen ___ (Chest): Magtheridon, Magtheridon's Lair
Gloves of the Fallen ___ (Hands): The Curator, Karazhan
Leggings of the Fallen ___ (Legs): Gruul the Dragonkiller, Gruul's Lair

Here is a list of who needs which kind of token:

___ of the Fallen Champion: Paladins, Rogues, Shamans
___ of the Fallen Defender: Druids, Priests, Warriors
___ of the Fallen Hero: Hunters, Mages, Warlocks

once you have an appropriate "token" you can cash them at either the aldor or scryers tier. (it depends which one likes you and wont attack you)

Comentado por paulthegreat

Unless they do something to massively increase ferals' white damage, the 2-pc bonus of this set will always be worth upwards of an additional 7% damage (since around 70% of feral damage is energy-based, and the bonus increases energy by upwards of 10%). Just like priest and druid 3-pc Tier 2, this set bonus will probably be nerfed in the expansion so that dps-ing ferals aren't still wearing 2-pc Tier 4 at level 80.

Edited for WotLK: Blizzard made the same change to the 2-pc bonus as they made to all other energy gains from lower level items/gear (for rogues). Basically, the effectiveness drops per character level above the intended character level. So you get the full benefit at level 70, but zero benefit at level 80, with scaling benefit between.

Comentado por 10128

I wonder, what is the ideal equipement for a DPS feral Druid if everything is available to you? Would you keep the 2pc T4 even with Sunwell semi-set?

If you did, what items are ideal? I would guess gloves at least, because they are the least important item, and then what? Shoulders?

I'd feel annoyed clearing SW and wearing my odd-looking T4 all over the place.

Comentado por 23311

Now that Druids can get both 2p T4 and 4p T6, the general mix tends to be:

T4 Shoulders and Chest
T6 Bracers, Boots, Belt, Leggings

Or, if you're not that far into Sunwell:

T4 Shoulders and Helm
T6 Bracers, Leggings, Chest, Gloves

With the non-Tier occupied slots being filled with quality Rogue loot.

Comentado por 88768

Comparing http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?search=10+druid+feral to http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?itemset=640

-382 Armor
+165 Agi
+254 Stam
-181 Strength
+606 AP (base ap) (+244 AP Bear, +259 AP Cat)
+115 Expertise Rating
+237 Critical Strike
+33 Haste
+175 Armor Ignore
+1 Socket (5 red, 2 yellow, 1 meta)

This set while having a ton of stam and agility, loses armor from t4 tanking set.

While it is much over all better, it would appear to be a Kitty DPS set vice tanking.

Comentado por 24111

Comparing each parts separately to the BoJ gear; Druid T4 has rediculously small amount of Stamina. I don't know, is Blizzard so greatful and generous to Rogues AGAIN that they make our, non-the-less, tanking gear better for DPS than most of the things you find? Well that's not true since they screw us up not giving ANY Hit Rating, thus you have to find it in the Rogue gear whitch messes up the whole concept of giving more STR/AGI than actuall Stamina.

Not like i don't understand the fact we need high AP to tank. Just that we don't need SO much of it. I recently tanked a T6 Destro Warlock having barely 1.7k AP, and that's attainable in diapers.

I get the general armor stacking idea for bears but that won't help me tank those 5 fireballs traveling my direction. I'd understand if it was more Agi than Stamina for dodge or whatever, but why the damn Strength.

With WotLK just outside the window i'd recomend you my dear druid to just pick the Head and Shoulders to replace the Merciless Gladiator gear you're using and for the other parts go for the Badge Gear, it's far superior.

Comentado por Enaer

I know this is a bit late, but I'm doing research on gear for my off-set.

I am sorry you feel this way. Mangle is a druid tanks best friend. to give you an idea of why I say this:

TPS Without Mangle up (I miss, it parries, ect) is on average 650
TPS WITH Mangle up is about 1600-2000 (yes, I have broken the 2000 mark easilly)

This is on average in T4 and a few badge pieces, and a few other random heroic or crafted (HCH pants) items in T4/T5 content. I can build up 20,000 threat on a target before the next highest threat (usually off-tank or the highest DPS depending on the fight) can build up 4k.

To show you what I mean: http://24.231.255.195:25772/Other/EnaerTPS.jpg
Bottom right corner is Omen. My TPS is the 2nd to top red bar. Pulloff (next in line pulls off me) is the top bar. When the next person reaches THAT threat, They'll pull off me.

Comentado por Oradriel

Curious, for RP purposes with the whole Transmogrify Armor for (Patch 4.3) coming out. What weapon went well, or was standard with this set? If none exist, what was commonly used with this set? Polearm, 2h Mace or Staff. Regardless of the boots, belt and bracers being caster they will only be used for the look. Any help with this would be much appreciated, I never had the chance of playing BC in it's hay-day. Played Vanilla, skipped BC (working abroad). Thanks in advance for any advice or information.

Comentado por Salus

Royal Cloak of Arathi Kings matches this set perfectly.

Comentado por Amok

Personally I always thought Grande Cajado da Fúria Selvagem went great with this set as far as looking druid related. The tentacle staff is just too comical, and undeath carrier is a bit flashy.

Comentado por 771700

Any "skirt" that could go well with this?
I have the whole upper body, but I HATE tight pants...at least on a male.

Comentado por 1021952

For this gear you need to kill these different bosses:

Breastplate of Malorne: Chestguard of the Fallen Defender - Magtheridon - Magtheridon's Lair - 78%

Mantle of Malorne: Pauldrons of the Fallen Defender - High King Maulgar - Gruul's Lair - 83%

Stag-Helm of Malorne: Helm of the Fallen Defender - Prince Malchezaar - Karazhan - 34%

Greaves of Malorne: Leggings of the Fallen Defender - Gruul the Dragon Killer - Gruul's Lair - 81%

Gauntlets of Malorne: Gloves of the Fallen Defender - The Curator - Karazhan - 36%

Comentado por 298770

Looking for a staff to match for transmog? I found that Illumination matches rather nicely... keep in mind that it is Horde only.
Or if you want to keep going with the "stag" theme, Journey's End is a good choice.

Comentado por Sorayon

For Transmogrification, I didn't use the stag-helm, but instead i used Elmo Cenariano, because it makes the whole Malorne picture (with big antlers) complete.

Comentado por Jarakin

Tier 4 set (lvl 70) . You can obtain this items from Arodis Gumélion if you are friendly with Os Áugures , or from Asuur whitch is member of Os Aldor. You need appropriate token to purchase this item.
Here is list of all tokens for Tier 4 set , of course where you can get these tokens and drop chances .

Arnês de Malorne contains:
Peitoral de Malorne costs Couraça do Defensor Caído dropped by Magtheridon in Covil de Magtheridon - (77% dropchance)
Manoplas de Malorne costs Luvas do Defensor Caído dropped by O Curador in Karazhan - (29%)
Grevas de Malorne costs Perneiras do Defensor Caído dropped by Gruul, o Matador de Dragões in Covil de Gruul - (78%)
Dragonas de Malorne costs Brafoneiras do Defensor Caído dropped by Alto-rei Maulgar in Covil de Gruul - (79%)
Elmo de Galha de Malorne costs Elmo do Defensor Caído dropped by Príncipe Malquezaar in Karazhan - (29%)

Set Bonuses
Wearing more pieces of this set will convey bonuses to your character.

2 pieces: Your melee attacks in Bear Form and Dire Bear Form have a chance to generate 10 additional rage.
2 pieces: Your melee attacks in Cat Form have a chance to generate 20 additional Energy.
4 pieces: Increases your armor by 1400 in Bear Form and Dire Bear Form.
4 pieces: Increases your Agility by 30 in Cat Form.

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Arnês de Malorne

Arnês de Malorne é o Conjunto de Raide Nível 4. Contém 5 peças. Possui bônus de conjuntos com 2 e 4 peças.

	Peitoral de Malorne (1)
	Manoplas de Malorne (1)
	Grevas de Malorne (1)
	Dragonas de Malorne (1)
	Elmo de Galha de Malorne (1)

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