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Comentado por mjlo

Para subir a reputação é só pescar até pegar um item que dar uma missão em qualquer lugar de Pandaria, cada quets dar 550 de reputação.

Comentado por potuk

unico jeito de pegar amizade com Nat Pagle por enqto eh pescando esses 3 peixes

Peixe-espinho alfa pesque em lagoas contaminadas de sha como lagoa guelra-pintada em monte kun-lai proximo Vila Binan, Estepes de Taolong e Ermo do Medo

Gourami-tigre voador pesque em rios de pandaria ( ja peguei em 4 ventos, floresta de jade e selva Krasarang)

Polvo-mímico pesque nas praias de Pandaria

não precisa pescar nos cardumes pra pegar nenhum deles, mas saiba que o drop eh em torno de 1% de chance

pode ter apenas um de cada em sua mochila por vez, e entregar uma vez por dia a quest de cada peixe, mas depois de entregar pode voltar a pescar pra deixar o peixe pra entregar no dia seguinte

Itens vendidos por Nat Pagle

Comentários

Comentado por regma

Nice. But like mention before about this being for one guy.
Well it's good to see him mentioned again. I wonder if this might mean they'll have him with a bigger role.

Comentado por Fluclo

This appears to be part of the Heart that is located on Nat and other characters like Haohan Mudclaw, the text currently says he considers you a stranger. Alas this doesn't change even when you "save his son"!

Comentado por QuickBASIC

Look he better remember me... all that running around fetching rare fish for him 4-5 years ago for Nat Pagle, o pescador supremo.

Now he expects us to catch these every day:

Gourami-tigre voador are caught in freshwater (lakes or rivers).
Polvo-mímico are caught in sea/coastal water.
Peixe-espinho alfa are caught in Inkgill Mere (the large lake in southeastern Kun-Lai Summit).

All the fish can be caught in open water(the droprate is about 2%), or from pools. It takes about 28 days to get "Best Friend" with him if you catch all three fish every day.

The fish are unique, so you can only catch one before you have to turn it in, although you could catch 6 fish in one day if you catch all 3 turn them in and then go back out fishing, but you'll be unable to accept the quest for the second set of three until after daily quest reset.

The turn ins also give 350 rep with Os Pescadores.

EDIT: I farmed 1000 fish from pools only in about five hours to turn in for Ironpaw tokens. I did not catch a single Nat Pagle fish from a pool in that time. In about 30mins of open water fishing that I DID do, I caught all three fish for turn in to him. It's very possible that people who claim they have caught them from pools may have only thought so, but their bobber was outside the radius and by chance happened to catch in open water the fish that they were fishing from pools.(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##ElhonnaDS##DELIM##

Comentado por Tarumuat

Nat Pagle and other individuals on the list are the new "friendship" factions. We get to befriend them, and go up in "rank", such as "Homie", "Dog", "Bro" etc. Most likely placeholders, but let's wait and see :D

Comentado por Sabiah

How long will it take to get exalted with him?

Comentado por TGFseb15

The man. The legend.

Comentado por rhysdog

nat is such a boss he has his own faction

Comentado por sctprog

Nat can be found in Krasarang Wilds in the centre of Anglers Wharf: 68.4, 43.5

Comentado por Shashos

I'm unsure if this is working as intended, but it seems that after today's 2-hour maintenance window, the drops of these items have been lowered as noted by some people on the WoW forum.

For me:
400+ casts today and no Flying Tiger.
1000+ casts and no Mimic Octopus.
Took me around 20 or so casts for the Spinefish Alpha. (Luck, or are the other two the only ones that got nerfed?)

With drop rates this bad, getting to Exalted with him is going to take a very long time now.

Comentado por Teiwazgod

The rare fish do not drop from pools.. i farmed 500+ fish (for tillers friend factions) not one of them dropped any of them .. but in the open water they would drop very 10-30 minutes.

Comentado por 189726

Anyone know if you have a higher fishing level will it improve your chances to catch these? Wondering if using engineering lures would help?

Comentado por Qoko

A requirements heads-up for Nat in 6.0.3. Because Mr. Popularity got removed, the bonus reputation for Pandaria fish is 20% at most (unless you keep the Hallow's End or Pilgrim buff running till the new Darkmoon Faire, but this requires character downtime). In Draenor you can add the level 3 Trading Post bonus as well. For the below grinds I expect a grind with Lunkers or with Pandaria fish. If you mix it up this doesn't apply.

Changelog:

5.2: the base rep for Pandaria rare fish was increased to 600.
6.0: Mr. Popularity removed.
6.0.3: Nat Pagle available in the Garrison and Lunkers added, Trading Post reputation buff added.

Pandaria:

No rep perks (100%) = 43000/600 per fish = 72 turnins = 24 days.
Buff or human (110%) = 43000/660 per fish = 66 turnins = 22 days.
Buff & human (120%) = 43000/720 per fish = 60 turnins = 20 days.

With the upgraded droprate (4%), catchable from pools (Antigo Talismã de Pesca Pandarênico if you're lucky enough) and daily fish spots with bulking pools this grind has become much more reasonable and not along the line of the Insane anymore.

Warlords (Lunkers are repeatable, so no time estimation is given):

No rep perks (100%) = 43000/350 per fish = 123 turnins.
Buff or human (110%) = 43000/385 per fish = 112 turnins.
TP, or buff & human (120%) = 43000/420 per fish = 103 turnins
TP & buff or human (130%) = 43000/455 per fish = 95 turnins.
TP & buff & human (140%) = 43000/490 per fish = 88 turnins.

Lunkers are rarer than Pandaria fish, and you need more even with the Trading Post buff. As a sidegain you will get Nat Pagle's coins whilst farming rep, but these are quite efficiently farmed by killing Cavedwellers as well. Pure for a rep grind use Pandaria fish, otherwise fish for Lunkers.

Comentado por Hypnotist

Does anyone know if there is a minimum fishing skill required to catch this fish? 525 perhaps?
I'm not having any luck at 450 and counting.

Comentado por 1044888

Perhaps worth noting, the rare fish are random drops in addition to whatever common fish you reel in. You can catch the rare fish with any fishing skill, but they never drop with junk, so a higher fishing skill will make it much easier.

Comentado por 980617

The faction for Nat Pagle seems to be different than other 'friends'. After Stranger, I became his Pal rather than Acquaintance.

Comentado por tonydizzle

Anyone else notice Diário de Pesca do Nat and Chapéu de Nat say 'Revered' and 'Exalted'? I'm assuming those are equivalent to 'Good Friend' and 'Best Friend'.

Comentado por 315792

The friendship statuses above are incorrect...
At the moment I have the status Pal with him which isn't even on the list...3150/8400 and even though I'm not 100% sure, I'm pretty sure that I was stranger before it.... so not even aquaintance in between....

Comentado por Talyrius

After hitting exalted with Os Pescadores, I have been unable to catch anymore rare fish to turn in to Nat Pagle. I have fished for several hours straight and still found nothing. Perhaps I've just been extremely unlucky, but I believe this to be the result of a bug. Previously, I had been catching all three everyday. Can anyone that's exalted with Os Pescadores share their experience with fishing for these?

Edit:
I finally managed to catch all three after upwards of six hours fishing. To help give some perspective—prior to this, I had always succeeded in catching all of them in under an hour. As you can see, this was quite an outlier.

Comentado por Bazzmann

Heya,

Just as a heads up the Aliviado - Alliance and Feição Sombria Horde buff work when handing in the fish.

These buffs are obtained by clicking the bonfires in front of the Wickerman at the entrance of Stormwind City and Undercity.

This may help you if you only have a few fish left to hand in like myself, so could be a massive help to getting your rep up with him a little faster.

There's a week left of Hallow's End so now's your chance for a bit extra rep.

As a bit of motivation, you'll get this upon getting Best Friend (Exalted) with Nat : Cadeira de Pescador do Nat - Happy Fishing :D

Comentado por Hamnier

Out of curiosity and thinking he might be like the Tillers; If you hover over the friendship bar it says "Nat likes to drink". Think there is some particular drink you can give him 5 of that would raise rep with him as well?

Comentado por 1049016

I skilled up from 128 to 600 with only one drop, I varied between pools, rivers and the ocean. The one i got did not drop from a pool. I put this grind on hold for now...

Comentado por thranlynn

Working on leveling fishing for my DK and I have discovered an area in the Jade Forest where you can catch 2 of the 3 quest fish. After about an hour of fishing I had received Gourami-tigre voador and Polvo-mímico. Also caught stacks of Mandarim Vermelho, Piramboia de Jade, Polvo dos Recifes, and Camarão-grilo Gigante.

I was standing by the stream between Paw'Don and Pearlfin, around 52,78. This would be a good spot for people who are working on Nat rep since each cast has a ~1-2% chance to drop either fish instead of working on one at a time.

Anecdotal info: Not fishing from pools, level 85, using Vara de Pescar da Destreza Kalu'ak, no lures, and have skilled up from 525 to 575 during this test.

Comentado por Saidin420

Here's what the mail you get after reaching exalted reads:

Hey there Angler!

I have really enjoyed building our friendship these past few weeks out at Angler's Wharf. I still can't believe how many rare catches you found and brought back for me to check out!

I know you have been eyeing my fishing chair this whole time. So I decided to make you one of your own for all your hard work. I hope you enjoy it as much as I do!

Your Pal.

Nat Pagle

The real gift is Nat's autograph.

Comentado por Alteir

Blizzard knows we hate grinding and that we hate fishing because it is grinding incarnate.

And then they go and implement a faction like this?

I feel like they're taunting us. Mocking us.

Why.jpg :(

Comentado por meerling

I have gotten most of my rares from pools. It's just about all I fish in, since I'm usually after something specific. As to if I was on the edge, not unless the graphic is incorrect. I don't like wasting time with a maybe cast when I can just hit the button and recast till it's on target.

It might be that the drop rate changes between pools and open water, or you've just had a run of bad luck. I've done some things that were supposed to be a 15% or so drop rate for over 300 times and failed to get it, so something rumored to be as low as 1-2% can easily give a run in the thousands without dropping.
Remember that statistically it may look like you had a 90% chance to have gotten it, but probability gives the same chance every time so your ten millionth cast has no better chance to come up with that rare as your first cast did, even if you still haven't gotten it. (Statistics can be used as guidelines, but probability is still rules the roost.)

Comentado por Mairin

At this stage, I've put in too many hours to not finish the grind but when my daily routine has me currently doing 26ish (130 valor anyway) quests for various factions and it takes less combined time than these 3 it makes you wonder who at Blizzard is screwing with people =P

Comentado por alfonzzo

This can be a time consuming grind. If you plan to just fish up the occasional quest fish I recommend starting with the Mimic Octopus. You can fish for these right next to Nat himself, and coastal waters have the lowest rate of Golden Carp. With the higher rate of Octopus and Shrimp you'll be able to turn them in that much faster for Ironpaw Tokens

Comentado por 426224

Fishin's fer sissies.

Comentado por Lilikoi

Note that the personal reputation earned with Nat Pagle is affected by reputation modifiers, such as:

Humano Racial: Diplomacia (+10%)
Darkmoon Faire (World Event - one week/month): IUPI! from riding the Darkmoon carousel (+10%) The longer you ride, the longer the buff lasts, up to 1 hour.
Pilgrim's Bounty (World Event - Holiday): O Espírito da Partilha (+10%)
Hallow's End (World Event - Holiday): Aliviado or Feição Sombria (+10%)

Since these rep bonuses do stack, the fastest way to get Best Friend status with Nat would be to complete this on a Human toon, during DMF, Pilgrim's Bounty or Hallow's End, for a whopping +20% bonus!
* Since the DMF is the first full week of every month, and both Hollow's End and Pilgrim's Bounty happen near the end of their respective months, it's currently not possible to stack buffs from both DMF and these holidays - at least for this year, or unless the world events' dates change or otherwise align.

There are three (3) daily quests that you can pick up from the 3 types of rare Pandarian fish:

Gourami-tigre voador from Gourami-tigre voador which are fished from inland waters (lakes and streams) in Pandaria
Polvo-mímico from Polvo-mímico which are fished from coastal waters (ocean) around Pandaria
Peixe-espinho alfa from Peixe-espinho alfa which are fished from Sha-desecrated waters in Pandaria

Without any reputation bonuses, each of these daily quests rewards 500 reputation with Nat Pagle and 350 rep with Os Pescadores.

Each of these 3 rare fish is *unique* so you can only have one of each in your bags at a time, but it is possible to fish up, say, the Peixe-espinho alfa while you have both the Gourami-tigre voador and Polvo-mímico in your bags. You would have to turn in the quest (get rid of the *unique* fish) in order to catch another one. And since these are daily quests, that means you can only catch 2 of each rare fish per day: 1st one, turn in quest, 2nd one, then you have to wait until the next day to continue fishing for these rares.

Comentado por 1049989

Notes:
*Except the spinefish alpha almost all places have about same catch times for either mimic or flying tiger. however those 3 spots are very close to each other and Nat so if you gonna farm 2 days rare fishes same time-same day i suggest those spots. about spinefish unfortunately i cannot find a place for other 2 rares which may have close catch time for Spinefish alpha. I know its rng but if u check the times at the end of message you will see its a lot faster than the others. Also i catch the 2 of spinefishes in Dw lake of stars with a grey junk, never saw on other rares something like that.
*also can confirm that you can catch Flying Tiger from pools.

I just started the second char for Nats friendship. Found couple of places and i hope that may help. While doing with the first char. spent in fact waste too many hours flying all around the pandaria. Those 3 spot is the fastest way that i found.

While doing this dailies i use heat-treated spinning lure on kaluak pole, a glove with gatherer, fishing hat and anglers spear when its off cd.

Mimic Otopus: Farm very close to Nat. It takes about 25mins to catch 2 of that fish. Even with +100 lure you wont get any grey junks there. Just make sure your fishing skill is more than 710.

Flying Tiger Gourami:Valley of the four Winds 57:68 on a very small island on the river. 25mins for catch 1 fish, fly to Nat, turn in and fly back for fish the second. Same like mimic octopus, if you dont have +150 lure you can use a +100 without catching any greys.

Spinefish Alpha:66:61 dread wastes on a rock at Lake of stars. Spending 15mins to catch 1 spinefish, fly to nat, turn in, fly back and fish second one. Unfortunately you need +150 lure here. With even +100 lure about %40 catches are grey junks. but with 150 bonus i rarely saw a junk. ~~If you see many greys it means you are gonna spent a lot more time to find the rare fish.~~

While doing these dailies i catch 4-5 stacks of golden carp, 2 stacks of mimic octopus, a stack of krasang paddlefish and spinefish, half stack of emperor salmon and 2-3 crates.

Gonna edit the post in every 2 day with the time i spent . It may not be useful in couple of weeks but soon we can see more accurate times on the locations i posted.
21-11 :
Spinefish Alpha 10:23mins. / 7:59
Flying Tiger Gourami 5:33mins / 23:28
Mimic Octopus 36:55 / 13:06
23-11
Spinefish Alpha 7:29 / 11:01
Flying Tiger Gourami 22:53 / 53:01
Mimic Octopus 19:24 / 36:58
25-11
Spinefish Alpha 0:07 / 30:56
Flying Tiger Gourami 26:23 / 23:40
Mimic Octopus 60:19 / 17:10
27-11
Spinefish Alpha 11:31 / 10:55
Flying Tiger Gourami 19:12 / 4:47
Mimic Octopus 12:46 / 32:47
29-11
Spinefish Alpha 30:40 / 9:09
Flying Tiger Gourami 5:05 / 10:35
Mimic Octopus 8:28 / 20:14
2-12
Spinefish Alpha 1:17 / 19:36
Flying Tiger Gourami 0:46 / 18:19
Mimic Octopus 13:39 / 13:56
4-12
Spinefish Alpha 18:00 / 31:35
Flying Tiger Gourami 18:30 / 0:09
Mimic Octopus 33:19 / 10:34
6-12
Spinefish Alpha 9:06 / 3:28
Flying Tiger Gourami 30:11 / 40:35
Mimic Octopus 60:08 / 64:12
8-12
Spinefish Alpha 3:32 / 8:59
Flying Tiger Gourami 6:46 / 3:46
Mimic Octopus 3:53 / 5:57
10-12
Spinefish Alpha 12:40 / 4:28
Flying Tiger Gourami 0:36 / 50:19
Mimic Octopus 28:50 / 31:10
12-12
Spinefish Alpha 16:51 / 11:58
Flying Tiger Gourami 4:12 / 49:41
Mimic Octopus 16:51 / 11:58
14-12
Spinefish Alpha 14:17
Flying Tiger Gourami 23:02
Mimic Octopus 5:51 / 61:27

Comentado por Turmoyl

Ok, so, I fished in "Sha-touched water" for an hour.
Yesterday I cast like 6-8 times and got Spinefish Alpha in the exact same place.
So, I thought I'd come here and ask some questions to see if anyone can confirm/deny what I appear to be experiencing.

1) Guildmate informed me that the fish being unique means I have to turn each one in as caught.
I was under the impression that it meant, catch mimic octopus and can't catch another until turned in.
But, yesterday I caught the mimic, and was unable to catch the spinefish alpha until i turned in mimic.
Feedback?

2) Today, Nov 22, roughly 1am to 2 am server time (Midwest USA)
I fished in the same place I caught the Spinefish Alpha yesterday and no fish.
The difference between yesterday and today?
Yesterday I did the Anglers' dailies before I went after the Nat Pagle fish.
Is this (doing the dailies first) a requirement for catching the rares?

Edit: I tested aralonn's spots and got the Flying tiger from Valley of Four Winds in the time frame he listed. Without doing the dailies first.
Guess that clears that up, but was unable to fish up the mimic while I had the Tiger in my possession.

Comentado por perculia

Friendship Levels

Friendship levels:
Stranger: 0-8400
Pal: 8400-16800
Buddy: 16800-25200
Friend: 25200-33600
Good Friend: 33600-42000
Best Friend: 42000-42999

Comentado por Coolmama

For the past few days I've been catching the Flying Tiger Gourami in the river next to The Incursion in Krasarang Wilds which has been a real pain due to the tigers. Today I was fishing in a Jade Lungfish school in Jade Forest (at Pearl Lake, coords 61.2 - 80.5) when I suddenly got a Flying Tiger Gourami. I jave no idea about spawn rate, but maybe it will help charting the fish spots. Also caught some of the Spinefish at Binan village (Kun-Lai Summit)

Comentado por hellreiser

There are 6 levels of friendship for Nat Pagle. They are:

Stranger
Pal
Buddy
Friend
Good Friend
Best Friend

To progress through each level, you need to obtain 8,400 friendship (except for Best Friend, which will stop at 999/999, like exalted reputations). So in total, you will need to gather 42,000 friendship with Nat Pagle before reaching Best Friend.

Comentado por 1019041

So I am 200 rep of exalted (199) and went to look at other fishing achievements as a guild member had said some has changes , So is Nat Pagle no longer a feat of strength ?

Also on a side note I have for the last 2 days caught these rare's in pools

Comentado por 279798

by now, just Flying Tiger Gourami can be fished from pools. no info about Mimic Octopus or Spinefish Alpha that ever drop in a pool.

Comentado por cheriea99

For turn in of Pandaria quest "Flying Tiger Gourami". I found Pat Nagle in Anglers Wharf at coords 68.4, 43.4. Anglers Wharf is in Krasarang Wilds, which is the most southern zone within Pandaria. Hope this is helpful. If it's accepted, I attached a screenshot.

Comentado por 1062527

The fish definitely can be obtained from pools.

It amazes me that people still deny that based on their own bad luck. I've gotten at least 4 (of the 12 or so I've obtained so far) from pools, including from Jewel Danio pools. I had a skill of 600 at the Danio pools, so to the suggestion that maybe my lure was outside the pool: There's no way that I would succeed in catching a Danio and a Flying Tiger Gourami the 1 time my lure was "out" of the pool. The odds that I would even catch a Danio that way is pretty rare (I would more likely have gotten junk). Add to this the near statistical impossibility that this has happened at other pools and it becomes clear that those denying this are wrong.

Stop denying facts with false statistics and misleading people. These quest fish indeed do come from pools.

Comentado por XinR

(tongue in cheek) Maybe Nat Pagle rep can replace a different faction rep for "the Insane" title?.. hmmm?

Comentado por deynna

Nat Pagle was most likely created by Pat Nagle, one of the quest designers in original WoW.

Comentado por Pzypro

Fishing for Spinefish Alpha in Sha waters is totally not worth it for this reputation, time-wise. Unless you are absolutely bent on maxing his rep in as few days as possible at any cost.

Reasons are:
1) All Sha waters are very far from any oceans and inland waters you need for the other fish - especially far from the Angler's base.
2) Spinefish sells awfully since it's not a "food" ingredient and is only used by Alchemists for 1 recipe as far as I'm aware
3) Regardless of your fishing skill, you're going to catch about 50% worth of Desecrated Carcass amd Scoured Fishbones that sell for a few silver to vendors (this is not considered insufficient skill - this is just something you have a chance to catch in sha waters) - instead of always fishing up some valuable fish you can sell on the AH.

You can avoid 3) by fishing only from spinefish pools but flying around looking for them and then lining up casts is not time efficient either.

You're a lot better off only fishing for Mimic Octopus and the Flying Tiger thing. Both are fishable from pretty much anywhere and will flood you with a ton of other fish you can sell on AH.

Comentado por KamiFrog

I realize I will be downvoted and hidden for this. Also, inb4 "u mad bro."

For the past 5 days, I've spent an average of 5 hours just fishing for the Nat Pagle dailies. On average each day, I caught 748.6 fish per day, and averaged 1.6 daily fish catches a day. Yeah. 1.6/748.6. Less than 1% catch rate. .002%, actually. FML

I'd like to take this opportunity to say screw Nat Pagle. And his stupid hat. And his stupid pole. And his stupid book.

I fished in pools. I fished in open areas. I fished, and I fished, and I fished.

AND NOW I FISH NO MORE BECAUSE NAT HAS DRIVEN ME TO INSANITY.

ARRRGHHHHHHHH.

Comentado por 940219

The funny fact is that on 5.2 will be easier to earn this Reputation...

But never the less I`m still farming up...i`m his pal !

As Blizzard Say:

...The reputation from each fish will be increased and the fishing rate will be increased as well...

So if you don`t have the time, wait for the patch 5.2, will be much easier... 600 rep each fish (Before bonus), and twice as often to catch

i Hope...

Farewell

Comentado por WotanMRR

I've been fairly lucky getting both the spinefish and the tiger by Niuzao Temple. I fly to the Shadow Pan dailies base and then down to the South-western part of the middle island holding up the bridge to the Temple Island (around 45, 69). Once the spinefish is caught, I fly over to the lake on the island for the tiger (also a nice place for the salmon and redbelly by-catch).

I've seen the lake get fished before but never, not once, saw anyone fishing the spinefish at the location I mentioned. The southwestern part of that island is better as the northeastern part has shark patrols that may interrupt your grind.

Edit: spelling

Comentado por 1056880

thanks to quickbas ic for the guide handy to know :) also as a side note if you purchase the grand commendation at revered and with guild/human bonus you also get 840 rep with the angler faction when handing in the quests for the rare fish, can't be bad :)

Comentado por McZ123

Ok is there a way to get the crimson water strider cause im having a hard tim finding the source if so

Comentado por luuthur

I can confirm after now getting 2 Flying Tiger Gourami from fishing pools that you can fish them from pools in their designated locations.

:)

Comentado por 1058168

As of 5.2 you can fish up all the special fish out of pools. I personally have fished up 2 Flying Tiger Gourami and 2 Mimic Octopus from pools. I've gotten Mimics out of Octopus pools and out of Shrimp pools. Not sure about the Spinefish Alpha since I haven't caught one yet but I'd assume it applies to that as well.

Edit: I have now caught all three fish out of pools, although it seems to take longer for the Spinefish pools but that may just be because they are fewer located near each other.

Comentado por kharth

Fish turn in quests are up to 600 rep in 5.2.

Comentado por petponygirl

I get it. This is a labor of love for us fishing enthusiasts, but the time required to fish on just one toon to get exalted with dear Nat is enough to max fishing on our other elebenty brazillion toons. So for the love of fishing, please make the rare fish BOA so we can at least feel more productive while we work on skilling up others. Just my two cents!

Comentado por RogueDante

Not sure how helpful this is, but i just got back into playing and decided to work on this rep. I have the Ancient Pandarian Fishing Charm and used it it took me all of 15 mins total to catch all 3 fish.

Maybe the charm helps with drop rate.

Comentado por morgean

I saw the question asked here so I will answer. Someone asked if you have to do the dailies first before doing the rare daily quest the answer is no. I'm lvl 87 I can't even do the dailies yet and I am able to get the fish. Also as a side note I was able to get both the Flying fish and the Mimic in one day now here is the kicker I am able to everyday fish up the mimic by just fishing at the dock right next to Nat just in open water as for the flying fish I been only able to get it from the flying fish pool not sure if you can get it in open water but I'm guessing you can get it from an area that have the flying fish in open water just like you can get the mimic. Hope this helps someone!

Comentado por JonGhost52

Ben of the Booming Voice who's fishing in the river just east of the Halfhill Market can tell you of a 'fishing secret' (similar to Jogu the Drunk who's advising on vegetables to do in your farm for an extra 2 harvested), basically a special event that happened and that generated favorable fishing conditions ; he can even put a marker on your map to facilitate your trip !
To follow his advise is likely to get you one of the special fish required to raise your reputation with Nat Pagle.
Today, his advise sent me in the Woods of the Lost, I casted 25 times and got
Flying Tiger Gourami & Redbelly Mandarin on my first cast
Jade Lungfish * 21
Sealed crate * 3

Yesterday the secret from Ben led me to the Temple of the White Tiger in Kun-Lai summit ; I did not recall properly my fishing results but I got a Flying Tiger Gourami in less than 15 catches.

Note that you don't need to speak with Ben to get the event to appear, as I spoke to him with one of my toons but went to the place with another. Guess I'll keep a guy at Halfhill Market to conveniently speak with him everyday !

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Today 23 / 05 / 2013, Ben's advice took me to the Stormstout Brewery, where drunk Hozens are happily diving in the pond. I casted 6 times and on the 7th I got the Flying Tiger Gourami.

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Today 24 / 05 / 2013, Ben's advice took me to the Sri-La Village ; on the first catch I got a Reef Octopus and a Mimic octopus.

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Today 25 / 05 / 2013, Ben's advice took me to Gokk'lok Shallows (north west of Dread Waste, close to Townlong Steppes border) ; I got
31 * Giant Mantis Shrimp
3 * Sealed crate
finally a Mimic octopus.

Comentado por don1010220

Well since there isn't a nice up to date guide Ill make everyone a nice little guide for you.

Mists of Pandaria Guide:

A) Friendship Levels

Stranger: 0-8400
Pal: 8400-16800
Buddy: 16800-25200
Friend: 25200-33600
Good Friend: 33600-42000
Best Friend: 42000-42999

*Basically 8400 Reputation per Friendship Level

(Credit and thanks go to: perculia)

B) How To Gain Friendship

You have to go around Pandaria fishing up 3 differnt types of Fish:

Gourami-tigre voador (Tiger Gourami Shool - Kun-Lai Summit)
Polvo-mímico (Reef Octopus Swarm - Krasarang Wilds)
Peixe-espinho alfa (Spinefish School - Inkgill Mere, Kun-Lai Summit)

*Each fish will initially give you only 600 friendship as of 5.2 but you can increase it with several reputation bonuses.

Humano Racial: Diplomacia (+10%)
Darkmoon Faire (World Event - one week/month): IUPI! from riding the Darkmoon carousel (+10%) The longer you ride, the longer the buff lasts, up to 1 hour.
Pilgrim's Bounty (World Event - Holiday): O Espírito da Partilha (+10%)
Hallow's End (World Event - Holiday): Aliviado or Feição Sombria (+10%)

(Primary examples of Reputation increasers. Credit and thanks go to: Lilikoi)

I also found it a bit faster if you fish them out of each of their corresponding Pools (Highlighted in Parenthesis)
There are also the special pools each day, which is found out by speaking with Ben da Voz Estrondosa (The Halfhill Market - Valley of the Four Winds, 58.87,47.22) you can fish them in these pool as well as killing Krakkanon by fishing him out of the large fishing pool that spawns in each of these special fishing areas.
One you fish these up and turn them in you can go back out and fish them again for the next day..

C) Rewards

Chapéu de Nat (Purchased from Nat Pagle 195g)
Diário de Pesca do Nat (Purchased from Nat Pagle 778g)
Cadeira de Pescador do Nat (Sent to you in the mail when you are best friends with Nat Pagle)

Warlords of Draenor Guide:

In WoD Nat Pagle can become a follower in your garrison but only after a few circumstances are met:

A) Get your fishing to 700!

B) Achievements

There are a total of 8 achievements (including the meta) required to get the level 3 Fishing Shack Blue Prints (All of the Achievements Require you to fish up 100 of each enormous type of fish)
The best way to catch all of these fish is to fish up in each area bait that will increase your chances of obtaining enormous fish. (The bait can be bought and sold on the AH but you can only hold 1 bait at a time and each bait lasts 5 minutes I found it a bit easier just to fish till you catch the bait because a few minutes later you will catch another bait how it worked for me anyway)

Pescador de Draenor (Meta)
Pescador de Escorpiões do Mar (Fished in pools south of Nagrand can be caught anywhere but best place I found pools at)
Pescador de Sorrateiros Sem-queixo (Fished in pools in Gorgrond)
Pescador de Pestanas Gordos (Fished in pools in Nagrand
Pescador de Esturjões Cegos do Lago (Fished in pools in Shadowmoon Valley)
Pescador de Azorragues Aguanegra (Fished in pools in Talador)
Pescador de Enguias Abissais (Fished in pools in Spires of Arak)
Pescador de Amonitas de Fogo (Fished in pool in the lava in Frostfire Ridge)

C) Getting Nat Pagle as a follower

After you do the above requirements and make your Fishing Shack level 3 you will get a 4 part quest from your fishing shack that will lead you to inviting him as a follower (He does not have to be your best friend in order to recruit him):

D) The Journey to making Nat your best friend continues

As stated above he does not have to be your best friend in order to recruit him. But in WoD he will offer even more dailies to make him your best friend There are 8 repeatable quests, and as of 6.1 you no longer need to have Nat Pagle apart of your shack. All you need is to have 700+ fishing skill, and as of 6.2 you can hold as many lunker as you want but only 1 is needed per turn in:

Each turn in rewards 350 Friendship with Nat Pagle if you aren't already best friends with him.

D) Rewards

Now along with the repeatable quests above there are special Moeda da Sorte do Nat that you obtain to purchase the new items he has for you (you do need to have a certain amount of friendship with him to buy some of these things with the coins):

Diário de Pesca Draenoriana do Nat (No Friendship 25 Moeda da Sorte do Nat)
Chapéu do Goró do Nat (Friends 25 Moeda da Sorte do Nat)
Vara de Pescar Draenoriana (Friends 25 Moeda da Sorte do Nat Alliance Only Pole)
Vara de Pescar Selvagem (Friends 25 Moeda da Sorte do Nat Horde Only Pole)
Tubarão Terrestre (Good Friends 50 Moeda da Sorte do Nat)
Novilho do Mar (No Friendship 50 Moeda da Sorte do Nat)
Rédeas do Caminhante das Águas Carmesim (Best Friends 100 Moeda da Sorte do Nat)

Gearing to make fishing these up a little bit faster.

1) There are several things that you can do to make fishing these up faster. Sure you can go out and just sit there with no fishing pole or bait due to the no need of a fishing pole or gear in 5.2 but it makes it a tad bit slower.
2) Here are some items that will make this voyage of getting Nat Pagle as your best buddy a lot faster:

a) Fishing Poles (There are several but these are the easiest to obtain and the best):

Vara de Pescar de Arcanita (Stranglethorn Fishing Extravaganza)
Vara de Pescar Selvagem (Friends 25 Moeda da Sorte do Nat Horde Only Pole)
Vara de Pescar da Destreza Kalu'ak (Exalted with The Kalu'ak)

b) Fishing Hats:

Chapéu do Goró do Nat (Friends 25 Moeda da Sorte do Nat)
Chapéu de Nat (Becoming best friends with Nat Pagle)
Chapéu de Pescaria Gasto (Fishing Dailies In Orgrimmar, Shattrath, and Dalaran)

c) Fishing Boots:

Botas da Angra (Stranglethorn Fishing Extravaganza)
Botas Radicais de Pesca de Nat Pagle (Stranglethorn Fishing Extravaganza)

d) Accessories, Enchants, and Other Items to help:

Lança Morsana Afiada (Revered with The Anglers)
Antigo Talismã de Pesca Pandarênico (Find Pescador Pandaren Fantasmagórico)
Canoa dos Pescadores (Revered with The Anglers)
Diário Gasto pelo Tempo (Steam Pump Flotsom pools - Serpent Lake, Zangarmarsh)
Fórmula: Encantamento de Pescador - Luvas (Dropped by any mobs at Lake Indu'le)
Receita: Lager do Capitão Rumsey (Fishing Dailies In Orgrimmar, Shattrath, and Dalaran)
Feromônio de Peixe "Cheiroso" (Can be fished anywhere in Draenor. Only Lasts 1 Minute and can be applied on pets or bodyguard or npcs, Can also stack.)

e) Fishing Lures (There are several but the top 3)

Minhoca Suprema (Randomly Fished up in Dreanor)
Rosquinha de Negraluna Dormida (Purchased at Darkmoon Faire for 1 )
Isca Giratória Temperada (Engineering)

e) Fishing Lines

Protótipo de Linha de Pesca de Etérnio (Stranglethorn Fishing Extravaganza or Dalaran Fishing Daily)
Linha de Pesca Sortuda de Rook (Found in the treasure Caixa de Pesca de Rook found in Talador)
Linha de Pesca Feita com Veraprata (Shattrath Fishing Daily)

Comentado por hannibalektr

I don't see a reason to grind Chapéu de Nat , when you can get Chapéu de Pescaria Gasto as it's almost as good and by the time you get the damn thing you'll be 600 fishing anyway!

Comentado por Boarwood

Nat's Fishing Journal can be purchased at halfway through "Buddy" reputation, which is the third tier of friend rep. It was really hard for me to find that information.

Comentado por Saucery

I feel as that Nat will never be my best friend this makes me sad :(
this friendship requires me to do so much for him.

Comentado por 163020

It was pointless selling the +50 skill so far into his rep. Chances are if you do need his skill bonus, you would be a lowbie. However, by the time you have to do the initial exalted to the Anglers and get his fishes you'd be so far in, that you'd at most need to use it once, but probably not even once.

Comentado por Corchlan

Note that you can catch the Gourami-tigre voador in the lake at the Shado-Pan Monastery in Monte Kun-Lai, a short flight from the lake at Shado-Pan Fallback where you catch Peixe-espinho alfa, which makes for a decent alternate route.

Comentado por Corchlan

For the benefit of the truly obsessive among us who insist on hitting 999/1000 on all reps, does anyone know if the quest fish drop when you're already exalted? I'm at 240/999 and starting to worry that I should've waited to turn in that last fish until I'd caught two more.

Comentado por shkm

I kept forgetting which daily fish I'd turned in, so I made a little macro:

/run local d=1;for n,i in pairs({=31446,=31444,=31443}) do if not IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(i) then d=nil;DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(n.." undone.",1,0,0) end end if d then print("All done!") end

This will simply list the items for quests that are undone, or notify you that all three have been completed.

Comentado por OceanKobe213

Okay guys, I did the math. Since you need 42k reputation to become best friends with Nat, you can assume that the math is 42,000/(660 x 3) each fish gives 660 rep (if you're in a guild with 10% rep and not a human). So the math says 21.212121… days so 22 days if you consistently get all three fish every day except for the 22nd day where you can get one to be best friends because each fish gives .333… of a day, if you think about it. You'll be already exalted with the anglers if you do the dailies as well, so don't worry about that. If you are a human and in a 10% rep guild, then it will take you 42,000/(720 x 3) which is 19.4 days which is 20 days of farming all three fish, but on the 20th day, you only need to farm 2 of the 3 fish to get best friend. Finally, if ~~you're not in a guild and~~ you're not a human (I don't know why you wouldn't just join a guild for the rep but whatever…) then it'll take you 23.33333 days of consistent 3 fish hand ins but on the 24th day, you only have to hand in 1 fish.

So here is the conclusion:

Not Human, ~~Not in a guild with 10% rep~~: 24 days (on the 24th day, you only need to catch 1 of the three fish)
Human, Not in a guild with 10% rep ~~/ Not human, In a guild with 10%~~ : 22 days ( On the 22nd day you only need to catch 1 of the three fish)
~~Human, in a guild with 10% rep : 20 days (20th day, you need to catch 2 fish at least in order to ding Best Friend)~~

Hope this was helpful.

EDIT:

As of 6.0, guilds no longer give 10% rep in any case so if you are a human, then it's 21 days with 1 extra fish on the 22nd day. Otherwise, it'll take you 23 days and 1 extra fish on the 24th day. Sorry guys, it'll have to take 2 extra days.

Comentado por Biffsterr

I've been doing this rep grind for the past couple of weeks. Usually, I get two of the quests to drop after only one or two casts. The third takes 30 or so casts. It's weird how constant this is. Today just after turning Good Friend with Nat, however, the drop rate probability was just plain evil. Mimic Octopus took about 150 casts (no exaggeration), the second took over 30 and the third I got after about 8 casts. Sometimes the probability gods at bliz are mean.

Comentado por gamedisciple

My daily routine essentially involves turning in the fish to Nat Pagle and then "restocking" for the following day since you can only have 1 of the fish at a time.

Helpful items are:

Canoa dos Pescadores (or Elixir de Andar sobre a Água)
Antigo Talismã de Pesca Pandarênico
Sabedoria dos Quatro Ventos
Pesca > 700 (for step 5)
Localizar Peixes
Um pouco de paciência (j/k)

Turn in prior day's fish
Flight path to Binan Village (southern Kun-Lai)
Head north to Inkgill Mere to fish the Cardume de Peixes-espinho for the Peixe-espinho alfa/way Kun-Lai Summit 70 87 Spinefish Alpha
Head east to Serenity Falls to fish any pool for the Gourami-tigre voador/way The Jade Forest 23 30 Flying Tiger Gourami
Head over the falls! WHEE! to fish for Polvo-mímico in the open water/way The Jade Forest 23 24 Mimic Octopus

Credits:
Big thanks to El's Anglin' (R.I.P.)!

Comentado por chrisweston

Can't find the WoD version, so does anyone know where Nat Pagle is in Draenor?

Comentado por Damonra

Only one of each fish can be turned in per day. Does anyone know if more than one can be caught per day? I know the Darkmoon Faire turn-ins can be have multiple copies of the same item stored in the bank for turn ins in following months. I'm wondering if the same is true with these fish.

Comentado por Sqqueeky

Turning in Lunkers caught in Draenor grants 350 rep with Nat. See Drudge's comment below for getting Nat in your garrison. so you can assign him and catch lunkers.

Interesting that my wowhead profile shows Nat at 999/8400 Stranger when my armory correctly shows him as 999/999 Best Friend. I don't think his rep was reset for Warlords so I'm guessing it's a profile glitch.

Comentado por CelticAwen

Just remember, you ONLY get 1 coin per Lunker...... so it's a long haul. I suggest finding a fishing buddy, or you may just want to gouge your eyes out! I wish WOW would give us a break and just make it like 5 coins per fish...I doubt it would break anything! Back to the grind.........................................

Comentado por 80158

Hi, just wanted to let some people know: I caught two fat sleeper lunkers today without having Nat assigned to my fishing shack. I did the daily apexis quest, then flew to Riverside Post and set up in the area to fish (I wasn't sure at the time if Nat was assigned to shack or not). In about 6 mins I caught a lunker so I decided to fish my full hour (or about). Took me a total of 45 mins but I did catch one more lunker then I returned to garrison and confirmed my suspicion that Nat was not assigned (He is now.). Maybe they changed it at 6.1, I don't know but I do intend to keep him assigned from now on.

Comentado por 1224515

I was already halfway through my rep grind with him in MOP, does this transfer to him in WOD or is it a brand new rep grind? I pretty much just want the fishing chair lol and wondering if I should continue catching the MOP daily fish while I'm grinding Pescador de Draenor

EDIT: So just verified that the rep DOES transfer to "both Pagles"

Comentado por trut3ch

Just some UPDATED info from the top post, that's 98% accurate and should assist most of you as well as it did me. Included is some data I've gathered on my own about Lunkers ( the primary source of Nat Pagle reputation in WoD and Nat's Lucky Coin, the currency you will purchase items from Nat with) and grinding the mount purchased with Nat's Lucky Coin.

Information gathered using equipment that increased my fishing skill from 700 to 930.

About Lunkers:

First, there are several resources out there reporting that you can only have a max of 30 Lunkers at a time. This is not accurate. There are 7 types of bait for 7 types of fish ( Crescent Sabre Fish do not require bait and are easily catchable in every zone). You can have 5 Lunkers of Each type in your inventory, making the total 35 Lunkers Max. The confusion comes from the fact that you cannot have more than 5 Lunkers in your bag from any zone. When it came to catching Sea Scorpion, I traveled to Ashran and did my fishing off the coast there - specifically so I could test the theory of 30 Lunkers max (screenshot of my inventory included with the others, link near the top of this page).

Second, although there are reports that you do not need to have Nat Pagle working in your Fishing Shack, I had 0 Lunker catches in my first 2 hours of fishing. Once I assigned Nat to the fishing shack, I began to catch Lunkers within about 5 minutes. This does not confirm that you can or cannot catch Lunkers without him assigned to your fishing shack, but I had better luck with him working.

About Baits:

Baits last 10 min, up from 5 min.

About Farming Coins:

Today, I spent the afternoon fishing. In ~ 9 hours of fishing and while moving from zone to zone, I gathered the following:

Fire Ammonite Lunker x 5, Fire Ammonite Tentacle x 462 ~ 85 minutes spent in the molten lava of Frostfire Ridge
Fat Sleeper Lunker x 5, Fat Sleeper Flesh x 138 ~ 35 minutes spent in the waters of Nagrand
Blackwater Whiptail Lunker x 5, Blackwater Whiptail Flesh x 652 ~128 minutes spent in the waters of Talador
Abyssal Gulper Eel Lunker x 5, Abyssal Gulper Eel Flesh x 46 ~ 28 minutes spent in the waters of Spires of Arak
Blind Lake Sturgeon Lunker x 5, Blind Lake Sturgeon Flesh x 438 ~ 100 minutes spent in the waters of Shadowmoon Valley
Jawless Skulker Lunker x 5, Jawless Skulker Flesh x 246 ~ 70 minutes spent in the waters of Gorgrond
Sea Scorpion Lunker x 5, Sea Scorpion Segment x 360 ~ 80 minutes spent in the coastal waters of Ashran

Included in these numbers:

Crescent Saberfish Flesh x 1738
Worm Supreme x 8
Sharpened Fish Hook x 3
Bladebone Hook x 3
Fishing Pole x 1

Having only done this once, the data gathered can really only be viewed as a sampling and may or may not reflect your experiences in these zones. Perhaps, if more users provide their experiences, we can then begin to discern a pattern.

Also, a small number of Fragrant Pheromone Fish were caught which I trashed upon catching and didn't get actual numbers on, sorry.

What does this mean about your Grind for Coins? Well, it means that you can expect to earn 35 coins in about 8-10 hours fishing. This makes grinding 100 coins for the mount equivalent to most rep grinds for mounts at about 25 - 35 hours (depending on luck and possibly decreased further by higher fishing skill). Double this if you intend on buying all the items available from Nat. In this time, you can expect to get most of your reputation with Nat, if not all (depending on your rep bonuses .. ie Human, Trading Post Level 3). Standard reputation turn-ins for Nat are valued at 350 reputation each, I received 420 reputation each. Probably due to my Trading Post, as I am a Blood Elf Paladin.

Personally, when it comes to the coins, I've attempted to grind them using both methods and here is my opinion. I've fished in my garrison, gathering Frost Deep Minnows to use to kill the Murloc in the cave AND I've fished all day for Lunkers. By far, the faster gathering occurred with Lunkers. You don't have to travel all over the map. With Nat assigned to your Fishing Shack, (something that has seemed to have helped me, maybe it doesn't matter), you can run right out the West Gate of your Garrison and fish for Fire Ammonite Lunker x5 in the lava pools. Then run them back inside, turn them in, and go right back to work on those lava pools. There is no restriction on the amount of Lunkers you can catch in a day, only on the amount in your inventory at one time. With the Frost Deep Minnow method, you can catch 5 minnows in the approx. the same amount of time as you can catch 5 Lunkers BUT, you may or may not get coins for your drops. I've gotten 6 coins off 5 minnows 1 time and 0-1 coins off 5 minnows many times.

Hope this helps someone, Good Luck, Have Fun, and Happy Fishing!

Comentado por Whoopee

I have done a old video based on his rep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67rWiE_bFqc

but gonna be working on a more better quality version tonight

watch this space :)

Welsh Gaming

Comentado por Deat79

Is anyone else having the issue where you are stuck at Good Friend with Nat? I have turned in 2 lunkers and one of the ones you catch in MoP, which was worth 1440 rep and the bar didn't move at all. It showed I received the rep on screen but not on the actual rep bar. Is it bugged?

Comentado por raistlyn727

For those pulling their hair out, YES, the reputation gains with Nat Pagle are currently broken. Ticket submitted, and the response from the GM was that it was a known issue, and to watch the hotfixes.

Comentado por Gadoink4

I hit Best Friend with Nat back in MoP, and right now my rep appears to be 999/-8400. I'm not sure if that's a good thing...

Comentado por mm0p

Did they put friend + good friend into one "level" in wod? I am currently at 25 200 and at the friend level. It says it requires 16800 rep to the next level, which should be 8400 to good friend.

Comentado por Xyton

At the moment, your standing isn't showing up while you're in the "Good Friend" tier. It's still being tracked, though; if you want to see exactly how friendly you are with Mr. Pagle, you can use this script:

/run r={GetFactionInfoByID(1358)} print(format("\124cffDDDD00Current Reputation with %s:\124r %s / %s",r,(r-r),(r-r))) if r~=43000 then print(" To next tier: "..(r-r).." rep") end print(" To full exalted: "..(42999-r).." rep")

Comentado por Unbeweaveable

I've been grinding this over the past few weeks...not sure if the fish drop rates are the same because I can usually catch all 3 now within 15 minutes at 700 fishing. Remember it taking forever to catch a single one back in mop.....kinda like the Draenor Lunkers do now.

Comentado por Toragon

Awesome guide in the comments section....I really appreciate the help.

Comentado por Drosa

Fun thing about Nat when you have him in your Garrison's fish hut, he will visit you while you fishing, I notice if you fishing on a raft or a ice, he will eventually drown and die in the water under your raft or on the ice where you standing, you can even click on his corpse.

Comentado por 604078

When you get him in your garrison after fishing 100's of various Draenor fish you then get the ability to fish up Lunkers. Lunkers can be used to get Nat Pagle's coins. Coins can be used to buy items such as pets.

Comentado por elaineb9000

i got to "good friend" with Nat tonight. still have to get to "best friend" to get the Draenor water strider mount.

however, it tells me that my rep with him is at "Good Friend", maxxed out, at 1/1. - but it still gives me the 420 rep every time i turn in a lunker.

has anyone else experienced this, and if so, what did you do to fix it, or be able to accurately track your way from good to best friend?

thanks

Comentado por 994699

Not sure if anyone will see this comment there are so many hopefully it will be up-voted ;-) but I just wanted to add...
if you're interested in GETTING NAT PAGLE to BEST FRIEND ASAP *REMEMBER* to Add the 3 Daily Pandarian Fishing Quests you can fish up to your list. Each quest nets you a whopping 600 Rep with Nat! (Lunkers give you roughly 300) so this really helps speed things up! The 3 quests you can fish up in Pandaria are

"Spinefish Alpha - best spot is fishing in Eastwind Rest in Kunlai Summit"
"Flying Tiger Gourmani - anywhere in open water in Jade Forest" near the arboretum is good too!
"Mimic Octopus anywhere in Krasang Wilds" (just down the way from Nat himself)

I usually have all 3 daily quests done anywhere from 10 - 20 minutes, catching myself an extra 1800 daily rep! :)

If this helps, plz upvote :)

Comentado por aracthebold

Ok I just got 6 of the same kind of lunkers in a 10 minute run. What is the most anyone else has got?

Comentado por StickyJP

320-400 Fishing level and 200+ Spinefish/Golden Carp to my name and still havent found it. Going to bed

Comentado por 1635547

After 1000's of casts, I consistently caught any type of Lunker I was after at 4 - 5% chance drop rate at 1100 fishing level. I would recommend using a bait for food that has either good stats for yourself or sells well on the AH, as it does not affect the catching of Lunkers. I do NOT believe there is a max amount you can catch per week or amount you can have in your bags at one time like some people theorize, but that is just from my experience. I really enjoy scouting out beautiful fishing locations and find it quite relaxing to fish. I turn off music and increase the ambiance so I can really feel apart of the nature. Don't try to rush it, explore for great spots, take it easy and have fun!

Comentado por smashfanDS

Nat Pagle rep at "Good Friend" now works as of patch 7.0.3.

Comentado por Elenda

If Nat's going to randomly show up all the time while I'm fishing, he could at least let me turn in my lunkers while he's there.

Comentado por Bloodude

So it seems annoying getting the 120 Farnesim Bocavil Gigante, and if you're like me and didn't do any Anglers rep things in MoP, you have a bit of a grind ahead of you if you want to get it done in one day. I will say that in my opinion getting Pagle to best friend isn't as bad as it may seem.

All you have to do is collect 120 Farnesim Bocavil Gigante, and in Tanaan it's not that bad if you go between two spots as you can see in this video. If you do that you'll also get to 120 Moeda da Sorte do Nat which is enough for the Rédeas do Caminhante das Águas Carmesim and if you stay for just a few minutes longer to get the remaining 5 Farnesim Bocavil Gigante you can also get the Vara de Pescar Selvagem.

For me it took around seven or eight hours to get 125 Moeda da Sorte do Nat. My droprate on Farnesim Bocavil Gigantes was around 7% after all was said and done. I also got around 140 Mangravil which still sells for a decent amount on the ah on my server. Best of luck with your lunkers!

Comentado por 1111223

Guide to Nat Pagle rep here.

Comentado por Chetuari

Best place I have found to farm Lunkers is Nagrand.
By my calculations you need 24 lunkers per Friend status but you can also fish up the 3 rare fish in Panda zones to slightly hurry along the grind.

GL

Comentado por 1236015

First post on WowHead. Sole purpose being to let people know that the three Pandaria dailys take no time at all. I did all three in less than 20 minutes. The locations for the fish are very convenient and no matter how busy a life you live, you will have time to fit these dailies into your daily wow schedule. My fishing skill is 620 also so not even the highest!

Comentado por Aerynsun8449

Ok, this isn't really important information on Nat's rep or anything. I just think Blizzard needs to be nicer to Nat Pagle. I mean, he's their Master Fisherman, he's THE Master Fisherman. And they're so mean to him.

As a DK, I'm out fishing in the middle of a lake with Path of Frost on. Nat comes out, "Howdy, Janthia! Any luck out there?" This has happened before as he dies because he's under water and can't breath. So I cast Path of Frost on poor Nat, who takes advantage of it, dismounts (as he and his mount is below the water). While Nat is standing on top of the water with me poor Nat then says, "Any bites yet? I have found that patience (and beer) really helps bring in the big catch!" At that point, Nat dies at my feet.

Apparently, he can't breath above water with Path of Frost on him either.

Comentado por azshari

i think its about 10x per hour now
i fishing in lava near garrison for 5 hours and i got 10 per hour or 1:15 like this

Comentado por astha

Fished around different areas in Draenor for the Lunkers, ended up going back to the fp at Akeetas Hovel since i there had best droprate, 1 to 3 every 10 minute by using Abyssal Gulper Eel Bait + Worm Supreme.
Happy farming :)

Comentado por Tantrevalles

OPEN WATER LUNKER FARMING

Howdy. ~~I'm currently~~ I have finished farming for rep with a character that has a base skill level of 800.

Of course you can do it in open water. I do it because I like to read when I fish and I can't very well do that and jump all over the place looking for pools. I just want to go to a favorite fishin' hole (doesn't matter which zone - they're all on the same RNG), plant my character there, and get to work. Here are some numbers for you, if you want an idea of what to expect:

Skill level 1200 (ephemeral fishing pole, hightfish cap, worm supreme)
Lunkers caught in 60 minutes: 12

Skill level 800 (level 1 fishing pole)
Lunkers caught in 60 minutes: 4

NOTE ON BAIT: Technically, you don't need to use bait to catch lunkers. I've done it a couple of times. But the drop rate becomes so low as to feel accidental.

Happy rep farming!

P.S. - This was weird. Got my exalted rep, and enough lunkers for the mount, pole, and hat, so I threw down a lot of casts. I noticed early in to this grind that when I caught about 20-25 lunkers my catch rate would drop down to just about nothing, especially if I logged out when at my fishing hole and then logged back in and just started right back to fishing.

By happy accident, I also noticed that if I hearthed back to my garrison, caught a couple of Lunarfall Cavedwellers, and *then* returned to my favorite fishing hole, my catch rate went right back to its usual average of 2 lunkers per lure, as if doing some garrison fishing reset the RNG. Not saying this actually a thing, but we anglers tend towards superstitious ritual sometimes, and this one seemed to work for me.

Comentado por Cimegs5088

So as we're waiting for BFA, i've decided to work up my druid's professions as i plan to make him my long term main from bfa onwards.

I reckon it would be good if i could level my fishing while getting a few achievements and rep up on my druid.

Starting from fishing skill 1, i ended up with 440 on the first day trying to farm up all 3 of the turn ins for mop Nat Pagle.

Just an idea of how rare these quest items can be for those who has their heart shaken after endless cast of nothingness.

Comentado por JeackTL

For those intimidated by this achievement, don't be - many of the comments here are old. It used to be bad, but it seems to have been improved. I was able to farm 10-20 lunkers per hour (closer to 20 most hours!), so most people can get this done in 6-12 hours, if starting from 0 rep.

Instructions:

- Go to Spires of Arak (highest lunker %)
- Fish open water, using Abyssal Gulper Eel Bait (don't need to fly between pools)
- Boosting fishing level as much as possible (improves drop %)

For reference: in 1 hour, I also fished up 167 enormous abyssal gulpers and 34 enormous crescent saberfish, so I probably casted ~200 times...drop rate is 5%-10%.

You can also do 1800 rep/day doing the MoP dailies, which take about 20 minutes. Helps break up the grind if you are marathoning, but does not add efficiency and does not award coins.

Edit: After one bad hour of RNG, I reduced from 15-20 per hour to 10-20. Generally I was over 15/hour though.

Comentado por Iannis

So, on day I was fishing in Ares Peak with my Underlight Angler when Nat Pangle arrived, to give me some handy advice. Once he started to speak to me, he dropped dead, right before my eyes!

My guess is, if your walking on water when he shows, he will die each and every time he shows up.

Comentado por minoter

Spires of Arak is definitely the best place I've found to farm the lunkers. The pools there are densely populated. Pools do seem to have a higher drop rate than free casting.

Initially I was using Sharpened Fish Hook. I would use this as a timer to also remind me to use Smuggling Run to try and proc the Bloodmane Charm toy that is sold for 500g. On one farming run, I managed to get 176 Enormous sea scorpion and 10 lunkers with using the fishing hook. I then stopped using up my fishing hooks and tried fishing without. At 176 casts, I had 19 lunkers, so imo, fishing hooks do not increase the chance of catching a lunker.

Don't forget to pick up the darkmoon fare Carousel buff that gives you 10% exp and rep bonus. I can confirm that this DOES increase the rep that Pagle will give you from 350 to 385 per lunker turn in. I just stashed the lunkers until darkmoon fare popped and then turned them all in then.

There are macro's that allows you to turn in the lunkers easier.

/script SelectGossipAvailableQuest(X)
/script CompleteQuest()
/script GetQuestReward()

Where X is replaced with the number corresponding to the type of lunker you wish to turn in:
1 - Fire Ammonite Lunker
2 - Jawless Skulker Lunker
3 - Fat Sleeper Lunker
4 - Black Lake Lunker
5 - Blackwater Whiptail Lunker
6 - Abyssal Gulper Lunker
7 - Sea Scorpion Lunker
8 - Felmouth Frenzy Lunker

Comentado por Irrelevant1

For players who are unfortunate enough not to have a garrison, like me, this can be a timely process. I am currently raising my reputation with Mr. Pagle via MoP dailies.

Can someone tell me how long it might take to build my garrison to the point of having a fishing shack and Nat Pagle? It doesn't seem worth it...

Comentado por Apoletta

BFA 2019

“There are 6 levels of friendship: Stranger, Acquaintance, Buddy, Friend, Good Friend, and Best Friend."

Each friendship level is 8400 rep. 24 Lunkers = 8400 rep. (Or 21 if you have the Darkmoon Faire Carousel rep buff)

You will also get a “Nat’s Lucky Coin” per Lunker turn in. So, by the time you get to be Nat’s Best Friend, you should have 100 and can buy your “Crimson Water Strider”!

I prefer the East coast of Spires if Arak for lunker farming the Sea Scorpion schools. It’s close to your garrison and has many more schools than the West coast, are close together and respawn so 2-3 people can farm and not get in each other’s way. Happy Farming!

Comentado por kiarathecat

If anyone was wondering, the WoD timewalking buff Símbolo de Ferro as well as the 20% trading post buff currently do not increase the reputation you gain from turning in lunkers.

Comentado por Beccstah

Ok so a lot of these comments are quite old (pre-BFA) so as someone who's going into shadowlands next week and only just working on the lunkers

the previous comments still stand

- go to spires of arak,
- fish the sea scorpion schools (the lunker drop rate is better)
- lures dont increase your drop chance dont bother with them

use your fishing raft and glide around fishing out of them the drop % is pretty good

Comentado por Ootso

Hello to everyone! On my journey to become best friends, I kept track of when the fish caught were successful. During fishing, I did not particularly look for a school, I fish directly at the given coordinates:

Flying Tiger Gourami - Kun-Lai Summit (72, 93)

Mimic Octopus - Kun-Lai Summit (48, 18)

Spinefish Alpha - Kun-Lai Summit (70, 84)

Date	Flying Tiger Gourami	Spinefish Alpha	Mimic Octopus
28.02.2021	Q	9	12
29.02.2021	3	19	47
1.03.2021	5	22	43
2.03.2021	Q	16	1
3.03.2021	25	78	45
4.03.2021	6	4	130
5.03.2021	OFFLINE	OFFLINE	OFFLINE
6.03.2021	82	6	1
7.03.2021	38	34	11
8.03.2021	OFFLINE	OFFLINE	OFFLINE
9.03.2021	OFFLINE	OFFLINE	OFFLINE
10.03.2021	OFFLINE	OFFLINE	OFFLINE
11.03.2021	OFFLINE	OFFLINE	OFFLINE
12.03.2021	8	40	14
13.03.2021	44	12	30
14.03.2021	53	5	12
15.03.2021	1	12	60
16.03.2021	15	12	25
17.03.2021	OFFLINE	OFFLINE	OFFLINE
18.03.2021	6	2	51
19.03.2021	60	20	20
20.03.2021	69	40	6
21.03.2021	14	41	21
22.03.2021	46	10	32
23.03.2021	24	3	15

Comentado por bomigabster

TL:DR: Good spots to catch the fish:

In pools of fish of a similar name at the following locations:

Peixe-espinho alfa and Gourami-tigre voador near Binan village /way Kun-Lai Summit 73 88

Alternative Flying Tiger Gourami spots:
The Ancient Passage. Entrance at /way Kun-Lai Summit 73 95
The water surrounding Temple of the White Tiger /way Kun-Lai Summit 70 49

Polvo-mímico Open water near Nat Pagle. /way Krasarang Wilds 69 42

Original comment 3 weeks before TLDR added:
Starting this rep during Dragonflight patch 10.1.0 I found the amount of info overwhelming. All I wanted to know was where I could catch the fish so I wasn’t wasting time casting someplace where there was no chance the fish would drop. I was worried about phasing because I hadn’t played during Pandaria and the only questline I had completed there was Jade Forest. Thus I did not have Lion's Landing in Krasarang, which some of the info mentioned, and Kun-Lai had Sha all over the place.

So I crossed my fingers and picked the best spots I could from the info overload, and this is where I found my fish:

Gourami-tigre voador Kun-Lai Summit Firebough Nook 46,85 from a Gourami-tigre school. I had also caught this fish on a different day while completing the daily Chocante! in Krasarang (edited to add I handed my fish in to Nat then went back to this spot and caught another Flying Tiger Gourami from a tiger Gourami school, as well as a Spinefish Alpha from a spinefish achool).
Polvo-mímico in Krasarang Wilds open water near Nat Pagle, 69,42 You also catch these in Reef Octopus schools along the Krasarang coast but I often spent more time flying around looking for schools than fishing so ended up staying next to Nat.
Peixe-espinho alfa Kun-Lai Summit in open water near Binan Village at 73,88.

I don't know if the rate has been increased significantly or the RNG Gods were just smiling on me today, but I caught the Tiger Gourami on my fifth cast, Octopus on the third cast, and the Spinefish took 7 minutes.

Note that the fish are unique but you can catch a second one on the same day if you hand the first one in to Nat, then you can hand the second one in the next day. This can help if you know you won't have time to fish on the second day.

If you're looking for Anglers rep as well that when you hit Revered you can buy Grande Comenda dos Pescadores from Nat but this does not make a difference to Nat's rep.

Comentado por toria234

Does anyone know if drinking beer helps fish up lunkers? Nat says "Any bites yet? I have found that patience (and beer) really helps bring in the big catch!"

Comentado por RedDeathIV

I wasn't gonna post anything but I've been so successful at catching lunkers in 1 spot I had to come tell you guys. I got 24 Felmouth Frenzy Lunkers in about an hour under the bridge that doomroller spawns from in Tanaan Jungle. Like sometimes i'd get 2-3 back to back to back. Have fun and happy fishing!

Comentado por hauntedchasm

/way Kun-Lai Summit 70 87 Spinefish Alpha
/way The Jade Forest 23 30 Flying Tiger Gourami
/way The Jade Forest 23 24 Mimic Octopus

Comentado por Biancamella

Found that /way Tanaan Jungle 42.5 49.4, is a great spot for Lunkers. There are also 5 Cardume de Farnesim Bocavil fairly close to each other. 3 are on the same minimap! I fished only from pools and my friend only from the raw green water and we fished around the same amount of Lunkers. (He was actually in the lead by a couple, even if my fishing gear was slightly better). Before trying this spot we were flying along Nagrand's river looking for pools. They spawned quickly, but flying around was tiring. Tanaan Jungle is a better spot if you wanna be semi afk. And you can also farm the mounts from the rares around the area in the meantime. They spawn roughly every hour.

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Posto	Nome	Mín	Quantidade
1	Estranho	0	8400
2	Colega	8400	8400
3	Camarada	16800	8400
4	Amigo	25200	8400
5	Bom Amigo	33600	8400
6	Grande Amigo	42000

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