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Comentado por Choochoo

On the whole, a rather disappointing two-hander in terms of what melee classes look for. Attack Power instead of Strength, and 3.4 speed is a bit fast.

It's obviously hands down the best two hander ingame, but it leaves much to be desired in terms of itemization.

Comentado por Zurm

According to the screenshot on MMO-Champion taken on live servers, it seems to have been quickened to 3.4, from the 3.5 shown above.

Link: http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/may/apolyonfinal.jpg

Comentado por 72359

I'm not a very good MS-Warrior, but isn't 3.4 a bit too fast?

Comentado por 132180

According to http://www.maxdps.com/paladin/dps.php, this is the best Blood Elf ret paladin weapon ingame.

Comentado por Cogeme

As for a hunter, this thing is rly not a upgrade from the polearm which drops from trash. You get more agility of it, enough haste on it and AP is also comparable to this sword. I would let the warriors have their two-hander for once :P...

Comentado por sasexw

I am the only one who belives this 3.4 is TOP with x3 on flurry?

Comentado por 93556

Dropped for The Seven on June 1st, 2008 at 7:11 PM CET.

Comentado por 149382

No, 3.4 is not too fast.

In terms of end game pve 2h Swords/Axes/Maces are basically going to be itemized with 3 class/specs in mind: Ret Paladins, MS warriors (Blood Frenzy bots), and Hunters.

Given the lack of agility and the much better and much more readily accessible Shivering Felspine, it's clear this isn't a hunter weapon.

With the haste on the weapon itself, this is essentially a 3.34 speed weapon with the highest top end in the game. From the standpoint of a Blood Frenzy warrior, 3/5 flurry brings the speed down to 2.83, which is good for the standard dps rotation of 4x slam, 2x ms, 1x ww.

Normal rotation would look like this (assuming the average .1 second lag time on slam & 100% flurry up time)

0.0 - White attack
0.6 - Slam (Swing reset)
1.6 - Mortal Strike
3.43 - White Attack
4.03 - Slam (Swing reset)
5.03 - Whirlwind
6.86 - White Attack
7.46 - Slam (Swing reset)
7.6 - Mortal Strike off cooldown
8.46 - Mortal Strike
10.29 - White Attack
10.89 - Slam (Swing reset)
11.89 - Open GCD
13.12 - White Attack
13.60 - Mortal Strike off cooldown
13.72 - Slam (Swing Reset)
14.72 -Mortal Strike...

Given this rotation and lag time it still leaves .33 seconds of open GCD after each special attack which is nice for extra lag/reaction time. Some of this could also be readily filled with the haste rating on the very nice Onslaught Boots and Belt, as well as some of the other Sunwell armor pieces (it would take ~250 haste rating on gear in order to fully compensate, a number that is impractical to reach for given other gearing requirements).

All in all, even considering the quicker speed to the weapon, it's still well within acceptable limits for a Blood Frenzy warrior. It's unfortunate that these circumstances brings the weapon under 3 seconds thus interfering with the cooldown on Windfury, but that is also assuming 100% flurry uptime which may not neccessarily be the case.

On the flip side, quicker auto attacks means more chances to proc sword spec. It's also worth mentioning that as gear upgrades are attained, and more haste rating becomes available, some arms warriors may switch over to a slamless dps rotation utilizing a DST.

Comentado por Frogger101

A ret paladin going from Shivering Felspine to Apolyon, the Soul-Render will gain;

35+dps ~regardless of faction. Both SoB and SoC will gain that much from swapping these weapons out according to spreadsheets. Making this hands down an amazing retribution paladin weapon.

Oddly enough the speed on this weapon screws around with warriors, esspeically ones using a cats edge. The upgrade from cats edge to Apolyon is very, very small for them. Right now due to this you can find many posts on the warcraft boards like this one; http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6441213731&sid=1&pageNo=1

These posts are suggesting for a slower speed, as some warriors can even see the S4 weapon out dpsing this baby for their spec and rotation.

Smart guilds with the way the sword is at the moment will hand this to their retribution paladin, then their warriors. It is just not enough of an upgrade for a warrior to give it over the ret paladin.

Comentado por cosmic

A great Two-hander. Any class that can use it could benefit from it.

Comentado por Gorger

US first obtained on June 7 by Metin <V A N Q U I S H> of US Cho'gall. A retribution paladin.

edit in 2022: Y'all know I'm going to get this again in TBC Classic.

Comentado por 156306

Lol my heart goes out to those who voted down my comment. If you love the cartoony weapons WoW keeps churning out lately... my apologies.

Comentado por 62247

Forgive me, but if the top end damage of the weapon is the same as the other swords (in fact it's higher, as far as I know its the highest top end damage weapon in the game) then the damage it deals on an attack like mortal strike will be the same, therefore the speed doesn't matter. It's a better weapon than say the Brutal Gladiator's sword because it would do similar damage in strikes, but you'd strike with white damage more often.

It would be better if it was slower, yes, but it is still a superior weapon damage-wise because you wouldn't lose any damage because of its speed. Think of it as a 3.6 speed weapon with a little more haste.

Comentado por 50594

King James Bible
Revelations, 9:7-11

7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men. 8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions. 9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. 10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. 11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

Comentado por 164759

If you socket this with 3 +10 Strength gems thats 30 strength equalling 60 attack power.
I'm not sure if strength adds to other stats too, but it would definatley be nice to see some more on this sword rather than a ghastly 100+ AP.

Comentado por Dithunder

Personaly this weapon makes a great pally weapon because of its high damage which makes crusaders strike a bit more powerful.

Comentado por 157534

Blizzard needs to redesign the stats on this item as follows:

Apolyon, the Soul-Render
Binds when picked up
Two-Hand Sword
416 - 625 Damage Speed 3.50
(148.7 damage per second)
+75 Stamina
Red Socket
Red Socket
Red Socket
Socket Bonus: +6 Stamina
Durability 120 / 120
Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 42 (1.9% @ L70).
Equip: Your attacks ignore 224 of your opponent's armor.
Equip: Increases attack power by 126.

If you went through the hoops to down Muru and the last boss before L80, you deserve a weapon that is truly superior. The S4 sword should not share its graphic either.

Comentado por 145397

Sword currently appears not to take a glow from enchants (i.e. no lightning effect from Mongoose). Whether this is intented or a bug, I don't know.

Comentado por 58842

This is an excellent choice for fury warrior looking ahead to utilize it with the WotLK talent 'Titan's Grip'. The 3.4 speed and 2.03% haste will serve the talent well!

GL getting one!

Comentado por Croco

this exactly what I want to say: titan's grip. I am lvl 45 atm so not even my wet dreams can conceive a blade like this one, but Sul'thraze I can see around the corner... and it got me thinking. so I wanted to see what is the best 2handed sword in the game till now. this sword feels like it's made for titan's grip fury warrs! it will sure make whirlwind alot more fun! :))

Comentado por 144835

You guys realize there's gonna be better 2H weapons at lv 80, right? So saying that "this goes well with Titan's Grip" is quite a redundant comment...

Also, with many balance fixes, or with the present mechanics... this one might/should be changed to Unique due to the fact that many top end dps 1Hers are Unique...

Comentado por 73093

@Boulderdash

"It's unfortunate that these circumstances brings the weapon under 3 seconds thus interfering with the cooldown on Windfury, but that is also assuming 100% flurry uptime which may not neccessarily be the case."

Just thought I'd point out that the windfury totem effect doesn't have the 3 second internal cooldown; that is only for shaman's windfury weapon buff. There is no cooldown on the windfury totem effect.

Comentado por awebz

This along with the S4 weapons, this the only optainable item in game with greater than 600 top end!

Comentado por 181858

This is a hunter weapon and a ret paladin weapon because they will both use it in there main raiding set warriors however you will never see one using a two hander before they get titans grip.

Comentado por 124740

This has got to be an arms/sub priest weapon.

Comentado por armaroth

Seeing that it is not unique, I would love dual wielding those on my warrior once 3.0 arrives.

Comentado por Mokal

Sorry to say but this is clearly made for hunters.

Comentado por 206829

i hate how i can never get this amazing sword i go raid SWP and we never do kiljaedan only twins and brut

Comentado por 100270

This may be nice to dual wield come WOTLK. If the speed is a bit too fast, make it an offhand, and throw a Cataclysm's Edge MH. Or use two since they're not unique, and the damage output would still be great, assuming you have a lot of +hit (which everyone should anyway).
At the very least, Apolyon will be a great stat placeholder for TG warriors, and it's far from being a bad weapon.

Comentado por 222582

hunter weapon imo look at that ap and stuff and with 3 20 ap gems in there this would be beastly

Comentado por 141045

Saw an arms warrior with TG duel wielding these in AB. At first glance, I thought it was yet another warrior with warglaives. I was wrong. 2 swipes is all it took. My poor mage didn't have a chance :(

Comentado por crusader666

TG is fury.... But yet, dual wielding these with savagery on both and 3 +10 str sockets in each, all in all will give you: 252 ap + 2x 70 ap + 6x 10 str= 516 AP... 148.7 dps in both hands, 64 haste and 84 crit rating. I just say OMG

Comentado por synistrad

this sword got the name of a demon god in greek history the name by which he is called
in "Pilgrim's Progress".

Comentado por 283939

rofl 2 of the swords= epic pwnage!

Comentado por 28576

It's not unique so warriors with titans grip can equip two of them at the same time! O.O

You would look like a complete bad ass with two of these things equipped!

Comentado por Bloodysorc

The highest stamina weapon in the game for death knights who don't have access to deadly gladiator gear; if I had one, I'd totally use it in my sarth tanking set :-)

Comentado por 311531

How much Dmg would a titans grip warrior with 2 of these with 3 16 strength gems in each and 85 ap enchants on each, have`?

Comentado por 333767

I think that this sword is rather comparable ( only because of the sockets, that is ) to lvl 80 blues and I am definitely getting this on my Paladin. I guess just because dual-spec is coming soon, and I really love raiding Sunwell Plateau. I mean, this and Thori'dal are pretty much the only reasons to raid the place, aside from some trinkets.

And if nothing, it has a value akin to the good old T6 sets. They're simply gorgeous.

Comentado por supercrem9

I think this would be a great thing to use for DK 2-h tankin at 80. My DK is currently dw spec'd for easier d cap, but my offspec is gonna be a 2h spec with a lot of stam and he's a JC

so the sword has 75 stam normally,
three JC sockets, so that 123 stam there,
and the socket bonus of 9 stam

that makes 207 stam!

but... you may have a little bit of a threat problem due to its low at power and end dmg cause its a 70 epic, and equivilent to an 80 green in dmg.

Comentado por Puchatek

https://www.wowhead.com/cata/compare=30316;34247 - nothing more to say, i think..

Comentado por 381701

this would be a great hunter item if you add x3 delicate dragons eyes
75 stamina
81 agility
amazing

Comentado por imawarrior

best weapon in tbc?

Comentado por 436863

Call me crazy, but i think this might be able to create a very powerful weapon.

If you're a hunter, lets say and you almost never melee, but hit a lot of range, using this with 3x https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=40114 or if you're a Jewlcrafter https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=36766 could create a 246 Attack Power weapon or 330 with Jewlcrafter's gems. although the Jewlcrafters gems could easily fill another slot in armor or otherwise.

Comentado por isseidoki121

o.o i love the look... it needs to be level 80 so people can see it again :l

Comentado por Matt327

For the alliance ToC raiders, On the FC, You can see that the Paladin is wielding this sword.

Just a Fun fact I though i'd throw in there :]

Comentado por 482962

It's the first weapon that I've seen which actually looks like the picture and it happens to be the best level 70 two handed sword.

Comentado por 576845

Anyone know if any enchant shows on this weapon?

Comentado por 504286

Go to the screenshots tab and look at screenshot number 4... Good job. :D

Comentado por 607391

Apolyon will throw its extra AP at Shadowmourne!. Instant own!

Comentado por siccon123

Lol it was my favorite item in TBC days :)

Comentado por darkpanda

This sword is SO epic that it needs remake in cataclysm!

Comentado por Grimtongue

This weapon is easily the best 2her at level 70. It has the highest DPS and highest top end damage of any weapon until level 78 item level 187 rares from non heroic 5 mans.

Comentado por Androidsaurus

Just got this today, got Brutal Gladiators Greatsword and transmoged it into Apolyon and I now class myself as the Dual Wielder of Apolyon lol

Comentado por 933205

This sword (well, the model anyway) is wielded by in a few of his phases. He uses a different weapon in the death knight starting area, but as far as I remember he uses this everywhere else.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Hey all cans oem one sey me where can i get some display id's?

Comentado por Allakhazam

This sword drops of Kil'Jaeden in the Sunwell Plateau. Definitely the hardest boss so far (relative to progression, not being redundant!).

Incredible weapon, ridiculous dps and stats.

Comentado por Allakhazam

this drops from kil'jaedan in the sunwell and it the highest DPS weapon in the game. 2nd place goes to cataclysms edge.

Comentado por Allakhazam

This sword is sick enough as it is. With more than 3.40 and all Strength instead of AP, this would've been through the roof. It has about the same damage range as the season 4 twohanders (a tiny bit better) even though it has a "crappy" 3.40 speed (Cataclysm's Edge is 3.50 and has the same damage range as season 3 twohanders).

Compared to Brutal Gladiator's Greatsword (without Blessing of Kings, 3x 10 Strength gems):

+1 top end damage
+8.4 damage per second
+15 Stamina
+54 Attack Power
+32 Haste rating

-8 Crit rating
-33 Resilience
-98 ArP
-19 Hit rating

You get more in some departments, but miss out on important stuff like hit rating and resilience. You can still roll with the season 4 weapon and get away with it, but if Apolyon was.. let's say 3.60, it would've been the obvious choice for both PvE and PvP. Point is: the season 4 weapons will hopefully be a lot harder to get (than they were in season 3) and they should not be inferior to this sword in a PvP setting.

Comentado por Allakhazam

has anyone got this? would love a screen of it :D

Comentado por Allakhazam

Its an awesome sword but to bad enchant graphic's don't show up on it. :\

http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot092208155439qj9.jpg

Comentado por Allakhazam

Who drops this?

Comentado por Allakhazam

the 3 red sockets on this sword make it absolutely ridiculous, drop 3 +10 str gems in it and with divine strength and BoK thats like an extra 70 AP for a ret pally. although the 3.4 attack speed isnt the best for ret pallys

Comentado por Thottbot

Best 2h wep for wars in game so far.

has the same look as season 4 2h sword.

Comentado por Thottbot

This drops from Kil'jaden in Sunwell.

Comentado por Thottbot

sweet ! you can vendor it for OVER 20G :D:D

Comentado por Thottbot

dropped for in Harmony (EU)

http://wow.buffed.de/uploads/pics/news_Schwert_IH.jpg

http://wow.buffed.de/uploads/pics/news_KJ_schwert.jpg

Comentado por Thottbot

MOHAWK WEAPON.

Comentado por Thottbot

OBVIOUSLY a discipline rogue weapon. LET'S GET OUR FACTS STRAIGHT PEOPLE!

Comentado por Thottbot

This is definately a Tauren drop. Notice the Stam? Taurens get 5% bonus to stam. Best fit for a Tauren rogue.

Comentado por Thottbot

Considering the facts of most of the above sentences i
really wish Thottbot had a spam filter.

Comentado por Thottbot

I think it's kinda !@#$%^ed when people say, "looks like s4". Wrong, s4... looks like this, yes there is a difference. When people say that this "looks like s4" then they're saying that this was made to look like s4. No, s4 was meant to look like this, you all fail.

Comentado por Thottbot

Lmao , the socket bonus , why even bother ?

Comentado por Thottbot

think about dual wielding this bish with the titan grip ability

Comentado por Thottbot

Don't touch our legendary and we don't touch this.

Comentado por Thottbot

this has high dps (@#$%^&ed noise) NYAAAA

Comentado por Thottbot

u killed moroes?

Comentado por Thottbot

3rd best hunter wep according to http://www.maxdps.com/hunter/beastMaster.php

but if you is sunwell you probobly have shivering felspine or blade of the harbingers

Comentado por Thottbot

I wanna see a pic of a titans grip warrior duel wielding this.

Also, when recieviving this weapon, it is mandatory that you change your pants afterwards.

Comentado por Thottbot

I think my priest will get some good bonus heals from this

Comentado por Thottbot

WOW, i heard tauren rogue and tauren priests up there, FAIL, go back to D&D;, listen it's just simply stupid a hunter who is a range dps get priority over a melee weapon, that a arms warrior or retribution paladin could make much much more use of it,...imagine a rogue or warrior got the legendary bow over a hunter, huh? and heard that somebody saying something about taurens have 5%+ stamina who the &*!@ cares about stamina in raiding, if you would know dps includes, strength, attack power, crit chance, hit rating, expertise etc....not stamina

Comentado por Adelebea

This is a weapon for mages since they have low melee damage =/

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Nível do Item: 164
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Duas mãos	Espada

404 - 607 de dano	Velocidade 3.40

(148.68 de dano por segundo)
+75 Vigor

Engaste vermelho
Engaste vermelho
Engaste vermelho
Bônus de Engaste: +6 Vigor

Durabilidade 120 / 120

Requer Nível 70
Equipado: Aumenta em 42 a taxa de acerto crítico.
Equipado: Aumenta em 32 a taxa de aceleração.
Equipado: Aumenta em 126 o poder de ataque.

Preço de Venda: 20 77 10

Saqueado de: Kil'jaeden

Chance de Saque: 13.82%

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