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Comentado por 13775

My shaman dual wields these with icy...just to look cool.

Comentado por Akeche

I love this thing so much...

Comentado por 9697

Just picked up two of these not too long ago (about an hour) and I must say, I have seen a dramatic increase in my damage. I had Screaming Dagger, an early solo quest Outland reward, and (something or other) Pick, another early solo quest reward from Outland. I'm using Dual Rockbiter (highest numbers), and the crits are not only amazing, but every 5 secs (for some odd reason... no +crit at all). Also, I never miss anymore (or at least rarely) because of the +hit on these things. They're great fr leveling, and probably wont get replaced AT LEAST until 65 (by most players, the hardcore people will probably get something epic by 63).

Comentado por 28138

It takes some time to grind to honored reputation with Thrallmar to be able to buy these, i reached that level at 61 - i came to outland at 58 so it took 3 levels.
The early quests in Thrallmar are just about enough to reach honored, i had to go into the ramparts too (mobs there gives 5 rep each until honored).

At honored the price lowered to around 31g each.

These are awesome for fury specced dual wielding with fiery weapon on both, i've had crits of over 700 not including enchant proc.
The only downside is the increased miss rate while d/w so i only use these when grinding mobs that are at least 2-3 levels lower than me.

Comentado por 35731

Got these as soon as i hitted honored with my shammy, Really an improvement from my other weapons,

I see them as an cheaper alternative to The Highwarlord cleavers.
Not much diffrence,

but back to the shammy part, With my almost full enhancement specced shammy i down mobs faster then i ever imagined, Still the discussion between Rockbiter and Windfury can go on forever, Just wanted to point out that with dualwield and windfury i did 36% of all damage in Hellfire Ramparts.

Anyways, would suggest getting these, due to the fact that they will last for several levels, unless as stated above or down, erm, you get a epic weapon from some instance earlier.

GL HF!!

Comentado por 37953

Is there no Alliance equivalent of these?

The Honor Hold faction has no usable weapons for a Shaman ...

Comentado por sennan

Coupled with a (relatively cheap) Force Reactive Disk, this makes a great weapon for Blood Elf AOE Tankadins through to the mid 60's.

Comentado por axle1275

Would this be a good combo with a shield for a Tauren Tank? The stam bonus is better than what I got now, and definately more damage. Just wondering before I spend the money on it.

Comentado por 51773

Comparable to Scimitar of the Nexus-Stalkers https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=25952

Overall, if you can use swords you are probably better off with the sword, as the dps is higher, it is faster (a plus for tanking and offhanding), and it has agil.

Comentado por Fugazi

Easy to get and very good weapons for orc fury warriors (and probably ench shamans). Quite too fast yes but it does not matter that much for fury.

Sad to see there is not much upgrades to those, one is lvl66 req. blue from Durnholde and another is from lvl68 req. quest in Netherstorm. Plus of course few BOE greens but those depends on luck with drop/ah.

Comentado por 40815

Good tanking weapon for anyone coming to Outland, great for warriors, good solo weapon for prot paladins. For actual tanking a prot paladin will benefit more from a green healing mace, which is both faster and has some spelldamage to help with threat gain.

As a blood elf paladin, once you hit 64 this becomes a great tanking weapon if you use seal of blood.

Comentado por klemzo

I have question:
You must be Honored with Thrallmar to equip this axe or you just to buy it ?

ty ^^

Comentado por 34526

Put enchant Icy Chill on this weapon and you well be surprised ! o.0 It's looks amazing

Comentado por 116707

Picked 2 of these up today on my shaman at lvl 60. Ive only done blood furnace twice and ramparts once, so most of my rep was from quests. Very easy to get and well worth it.

Comentado por chaosbringer127

Great for a respeccing Shaman. I was restoration and grabbed 2 of these when I respecced Enhancement. Great weapons until you get something stronger such as the S2/S3/S4 Weapons or the Vanir's weapons.

Comentado por Hoboonaparkbench

I've been using Wirt's Third Leg and Galgann's Firehammer since level 40, I probably wont be hitting honored until level 61, but once I do, killing mobs will improve significantly.

Comentado por Geneticide

Great enhance shaman weps. Pop rockbiter on 2 of these an start dropping people like crazy. Windfury is not recommended for really fast weps like these. Swings dont proc anywhere near as much due to the 3 sec hidden cooldown and procs dont do as much damage anyways. Put rockbiter on them for a straight up dps upgrade and have fun.

Comentado por 50559

I'm not sure why so many people are recommending this weapon for an Enhancement Shaman. Its 1.9 sec speed is a major flaw due to the 3 second cooldown on Windfury. Even as an Orc, who benefits from the Expertise racial due to this weapon being an axe, the drawback is just too high.

Comentado por 202777

The alliance equivalent is the Footman's Longsword: https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=25825

Comentado por 160281

For all you shammies saying this is awesome, no its not. You want slow weapons, I bought two 58 greens, they work a lot better.

Comentado por 130963

I understand slower weapons are better but correct me if this is wrong but doesn't faster weapons mean that you will hit more crits per minuet which in turn will mean that u keep Unleashed Rage, Flurry and Shamanistic focus up for longer per minuet. giving you cheap shocks more often, longer time spent with 30% increased attack speed and more time spent with increased AP. Also to note that you will receive larger amounts for mana from Shamanistic rage because you will be landing more melee attacks during the 10 seconds. So although you loose a lot of dps from SS and Wind fury your not really gimping your shaman if your weapons are slightly faster.

Comentado por kolewan

At level 61 I bought these for my Death Knight and i must say i quite enjoy them. (I am frost spec for that extra damage) Keep in mind that the Shadow Rend Longblade is another possible idea. You lose about 4 stam and you switch your hit out for crit but it can be quite nice to have.

Comentado por 266902

Picked them up directly when I got honored status. Dinged 61 at the same time, and with Battlemasters Breastplate, a nice upgrade in both armor and weapons.

Got me to a healthy 5% hit, a lot less misses.

I'm a happy fury cow now.

Comentado por 267194

I just got these on my 63 DK and i have to say im doing good damage coupled with 2x Runes of Cinderglacier

Comentado por Buttery

As a enh shammy, it really depends one what you are upgrading from. I personally was using vanilla blues with 2.5 speed , listed dps at around 42. So essentially, my damage range stayed the same, but I'm doing more white damage and additional chances to crit, proc. True that it is bad for WF, but I've been using FT OH for a while now(since there are no good weapon quest rewards for us in OL), so I've kept it up. With the recent WotLK overhaul, FT may not be ideal, but is definitely viable.

So shammys, dont avoid this just because it doesnt have the ideal speed, see if it fits your situation. It is a guaranteed dps udgrade for me, so I'm using them. Best of luck guys.

Comentado por Grelor

Not seen anyone suggest this for a warrior tanking weapon early on in OL. Surely it's one of the best for the level, at that speed and with a good amount of stam?

Comentado por 334922

There seems to be alot of conflicting advice on this for a shammy offhand. So i decided to test it out. I was using 2x 2.6 spd greens with WF/WF and after switching to this with flametongue i just ran BF and did over 500 dps, topping the 2 DK's with Hellreavers who did about 380 dps.

So in conclusion this is extremely viable offhand for enhancement shammies.

Comentado por Wanky

A Frost DK that dual wields should definitely consider putting this in your OH slot. For a MH, you'd want something slower with a higher damage range (similar to the way Rogues dual-wield) like Shadowrend Longblade or Fist of Reckoning.

Comentado por 409098

usin on my rogue n love it

Comentado por 479997

is this any good for a 66 DK frost spec?

Comentado por 180488

Fairly strong for a Hack and Slash rogue's offhand at this level. The speed could be faster, but there are few easy-to-get axes and swords at this speed at level 60. Marshfang Blade Axe is stronger, and can be acquired at level 62 from a quest in Zangarmarsh, but you can obtain this one in Hellfire Plateau alone at lower level and pairs well with Shadowrend Longblade out of Hellfire Ramparts.

Comentado por 664045

would this be good for a lvl 60 frost DK. Just asking becouse im not sure is 2 thise better than the 2h axe ive got in Dk starter quests i mean the Greataxe of the Ebon Hold.

Comentado por 226474

Ever since Threat of Thassarian was introduced, this axe has been bad for dual wielding DKs. You're better off picking up a green rarity one hander in the auction hall with pretty much any combat stats. Its damage per hit will have a larger impact on your overall dps than this weapon even with worse stats.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Theoretically not the best weapon for windfury/stormstrike as they are too fast, but in practise the best non-epic dual wield option available at their level. Actually only marginally less powerful than HWL/GM 1 handers so pretty nice!

Edited, Feb 1st 2007 7:38am by Activor

Comentado por Allakhazam

I got 2 of these on my shammy and then I enchanted with fiery, and slapped on Flametongue weapon on both of them and HOLY CRAP! The amount of fire damage combined with the speed and power of an Enhancement shammy is just amazing!

Just for fun I went to SM to go get some blue's to DE for small radiant shards, and I was able to run through everything in the armory and library in about 20 mins. The damage output was incredible!

Comentado por Allakhazam

Dual wielding 2 of these on a shaman is great, give it a try!

Comentado por Allakhazam

These are not unique. So, hunters, shamans, and warriors can dual-wield them. They also require only Honored reputation, which is attainable through questing.

A hunter can complete most of the Thrallmar quests to get Honored, buy two of these for a measly 70G total, drop +15 AGI enchants on each of them, and be very well set for weapons for a good long while. The built-in hit rating helps a lot when they are dual-wielded. The extra 320 health helps the hunter solo or off-tank when needed. Part of the stamina and attack power go to the pet, too, so a set of these are great for grinding.

In addition, these do great melee damage. I went dual-wield to increase the mana regeneration from Black Grasp of the Destroyer. To my delight, instead of merely boosting my mana regeneration, melee combat with a couple of these axes causes mobs to die refreshly fast with just auto-attack.

Grouped/raiding hunters will prefer crit rating, agility and attack power over stamina and hit rating, so these will eventually be replaced. Also, the two-hand weapons have better enchants and work better for PvP. This axe is great for levelling, though. Getting this axe still serves a purpose at 70, though, as it's a head start toward the Blackened Spear, which requires Revered Thrallmar rep.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Lets see here, slower weapons do more damage, dual wield = more hits, so big damage from lots of hits, I wonder if these are good =-0. And for everyone else dual wield these, they rock. Wf procs good and does massive damage.

Comentado por Allakhazam

will using WF be any good?

Comentado por Thottbot

I just decieded to try out enhancment spec with my shaman since i'v been eitehr restro or ele since forever. I baught 2 of these bad boys and i'm loven it. Yes i know, the fast attack speed isn't that great but it's good for starting out.

Comentado por Thottbot

Bought to of these for my enhancement spec shaman and loving them. I prefer fast attack speed, so they are great for me.

Comentado por Thottbot

Same deal here, was restoration then ele and just went enhance to shake things up. useing dw these and sometimes the old aurastone in the mainhand. Although I do miss 1100 lightning bolts criting at 2.5k this is still pretty fun being enhance.

there needs to be more stormstrike shamans around for when I go ele again, I like seeing those big numbers on my screen :)

Comentado por Thottbot

Best thing to get as soon as possible when DW'ing as a shammy first time you enter Outland. I went in at lvl 58 and got honored at lvl 60, got 2 of these, plus the great trinket https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=55565/braçadeiras-de-alcândora, which gives me the change to output some sick DPS every 2 minutes ^_^

Comentado por Thottbot

I got these to use instead of a 2h sword, and with the fury spec, they kick ass. Not too bad lookin' either. For 30g a pop, it's worth it I'd say...

Comentado por Thottbot

I've been enhancement spec since day 1 on my shaman and i love it. I had Cold Forged Hammer in main hand and random blue in off hand until 61 when i got enough rep to get 2 of these. I like the low attack speed because i can toss on Shamanistic Rage along with Blood Fury and Stength of Earth tot to regain mana equal to 15% of my attack power, which is usually around 180 mana i get back pretty much every swing. I rarely have to sit down for mana now between Water Shield and Shamanistic Rage with these. Id suggest these to anyone doing what i am.

Comentado por Thottbot

The above poster is kind of an itiot. The rep is balanced lol. Ally gets the same stats and same dps but in the form of a 2.10 speed sword, debatably better.

if you dont believe me... https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=25825/espada-longa-do-soldado-raso

Look closesly and it says, "Requires Honor Hold - Honored". And in case you didnt know, Honor Hold is the equivalent of Thrallmar.

Comentado por Thottbot

Well I'm about to get 2 of these suckers for my Fury Warrior. I'm sure the fast attack speed will build up rage nice and fast!

Comentado por Thottbot

im a 63 rogue and i've been wanting this axe since the day i saw this bad boy.. Too bad rogues can't use axes because STILL from doing almost ALL the quests in Terrokar, Hellfire, & Zangarmarsh I have not found a 1h weapon with this type of DPS.. But as we all know at level 65 you can pick up a dagger with 62 DPS
(reference to "The Ring of Blood: The Final Challenge (group quest) ) which offers many things known to you all such as . So in conclusion i DIRELY reccomend you use the axe until level 65 for tanking, Fury warrs, & Enhance shamans.

Good Luck

Comentado por Thottbot

I'm a fury warrior and i have always been wondering whether should i use fast or kinda slow weapons.I have been dual wielding the Ripsaw and Thrash blade since 45 and they got me to 60 np.When i took these they kicked asses--> super fast n great dps.Sure hope they will get me to 65 np.Fury FTW!

Comentado por Thottbot

I like this on my Prot specced Pally since the speed pairs well with Seal/Judgement of Light. The proc on that seal is per-hit rather than a PPM thing, so more hits = more healing. The stamina is nice for tanking, too. There may be better tanking weapons to be had for a Tankadin, but I haven't come across one yet at level 61.

Comentado por Thottbot

What is better duel wielding these babies or hellreaver? someone PLZ tell me!

Comentado por Thottbot

i whould say..... these 2... got hell reaver, but as u see on my shreenshot, when u look up (undead).. i have these 2 :D

Comentado por bfedorov11

These suck for dw enh shaman. I picked two up and threw fiery on them (I'm broke). The burst is completely gone. Especially since so much of the quest gear in Hellfire has agi on it. You can get to like 25% crit by level 62.

Save your gold. I'm using level 58 green boe 2.6 speed weapons. RIP 75g.

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