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Comentado por scuit

Pretty nice walkaway with this giant guys on a permanent :)

Comentado por 527208

I'm wondering if this will pair up with Grimoire of Sacrifice at all, and if so which ability you'll get. My best guess is that you simply don't pick those together, and "problem solved".

Comentado por gaylord2414

does it replace ur current pet , wil the warlock be able t have 2 pets at once permanent such as succubus/shivara and doomguard for example?

Comentado por marclar

I just hope that when this talent goes live and I pick it I can still summon Infernal like it is summoned today by dropping from the sky and dealing aoe and stunning :D

Comentado por S1lv3rw0lf

The spells on these pets make this a pretty good talent for pvp. Each demon has stronger abilities based on those of the lesser demons.

Abyssal moves:

Burning presence- aggro aura (voidwalker)
Blaze magic -aoe offensive dispel on 30 second cd (imp)
Meteor strike- aoe 3 second stun and small damage on a 1 min cd (felguard) -Command Demon ability
seethe - taunt (voidwalker)

Terrorguard moves:

Doom bolt- same as in Mop (deals x shadow damage and does 20% more damage when the target falls below 20% hp)
Debilitate- roots enemy in place for 30 seconds (4 seconds on players). then applies cripple which reduces speed by 80%. 30 second cd (succubus)
shadow lock- 6 second interrupt, 40yd range, 24 second cd (felhunter) -Command Demon ability

Source: Beta

Comentado por 746315

Modified spells for demon summoning:
Evocar Demonarca/Evocar Deimoguarda
Evocar Infernal/Evocar Abissal

Comentado por Gwiez

It'd be nice if Glifo de Guarda Vil worked on permanent doomguard/terrorguard. I've collected quite a lot of weapons, and I'd like to keep using them. I know those pets are casters, but my warlock is a caster too, and he has a sword.

Comentado por 1271105

Just thought id mention the current state of this talent.. which is absolutely horrid mind you.

-The doomguard has same health to the felhunter and succubus 40% of your stam stat; infernal has same as the felguard / voidwalker 50% of your stam stat (who knows why they didn't think these pets would be special and have more stat gain that our usual pets...)
-They currently do NOT interact with our demon training glyph.. for whatever reason
EDIT: now fixed ~~They currently do NOT interact with our grimoire of service talent.. for whatever reason~~
-They currently do NOT have an avoidance passive like our other pets... For Whatever Reason......

-Infernal right now can only be good for a LARGE number of mobs.. otherwise i don't see why you would take him as a tank over a voidwalker.
-If you are demo you might as well forget this talent.. your felguard does great single target and still has that AOE ability...

honestly id be much happier if they made demo be able to keep one or the other permanently as guardians doing reduced dmg (enough that its competitive) and allow us to still keep our main pet out. We'd be able to switch them out maybe on a 30CD (instant cast) to let us respond to aoe or single target situations as they come about in a raid.. or something to make it more viable.. they didnt look into this talent enough.

Comentado por 24457

AYFKM? Finally!

Comentado por Goddessa39

This sounded really nice. I was all-hey two pets, but since I rely on the voidewalker's taunt when alone... yeah not so cool.

Comentado por 1215990

Sacrificing your greater demons does give you an ability.

Doomguard gives you Prisão das Sombras
Infernal gives you Impacto do Meteoro

Personally, I don't know why they are making the Imp ability and the Doomguard ability the same. Seems like a waste of a talent.

Comentado por LoreAddict

"You cannot command me!"

O rly?

Comentado por 499605

This makes Grimoire of Sacrifice, useless and given that there is no "more powerful" pets for Grimoire of Supremacy (I am assuming here), does that mean that if you choose this talent, you are left only with Grimoire of Service?

Or will Grimoire of Supremacy provide some sort of ability boost?

Comentado por 49755

Since it hasn't been said anywhere: Taking this talent removes your ability to cast the regular summon Doomguard/Terrorguard.

This and other things bring some interesting disadvantages that have to be taken into account.

1. For the first minute of the fight, this talent is useless, since you would normally be able to have a Doomguard/Terrorguard anyways
2. You will be missing out on your regular pet-dps, further decreasing the advantage this talent gives you.
3. You will be loosing out on another tier-7 talent

So without number crunching, it's fair to say that its advantageous to skip this talent for 5-man dungeons and heroics since you will be having regular summon Doomguard/Terrorguard for the first and last boss (assuming theres atleast 10 mins between them), and the dps loss on the bosses where its on CD will be mitigated by regular pet dps and another tier-7 talent.

Ofcourse, having a permanent Doomguard/Terrorguard is bad ass, so thats always a factor ;)

Comentado por guatafu

The Doom/Terrorguard wings will get in your way all the time, DO NOT use this for questing.

Comentado por Mordecay

Fun fact - In the WotA trilogy, the plural is Doomguard (without s).

Comentado por MRTF

If only... I could still have the extra doomguard/terrorguard & infernal/abyssal 10min CD abilities while having this.. It has quite a disadvantage sadly.

Comentado por Abie78

In Legion, Grimoire of Supremacy doesn't empower your demons making you able to summon greater demons like the observer.
What it does instead : it allows you to maintain control over even greater demons indefinitely, allowing you to summon a doomguard or an infernal.

Comentado por bithalver

Let me say Infernal is an excellent tank: (as an aff lock) has no problem with 4 elites in Fang'rila (all 4 fully dotted), with 6 elites it needs health funnel, but tanks well. Sure I use Demon skin talent ;) .

Comentado por tinterwebtim

It's worth noting that this talent was removed in BfA so if you are trying to summon an Observer for the green fire questline, don't bother.
Summon a Succubus and she will have the answer you need.

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