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Comentado por TmzOS

Antigamente as pessoas diziam pra usar bandagens ou chamar um amigo healer, no BfA basta usar Chamas Concentradas, funciona com qualquer classe.

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Comentado por 2OfDiamonds

A green dragon being corrupted/destroyed/turned/ -- in the ICC raid.

She starts out at 50% and you have to heal her to full while your raid has to deal with all sorts of minions arthas sends to stop you.

Looks like a fun fight!

Comentado por Gnoktish

ohh boy! We healers now have a bigger part of this raid. my priest is gonna have a lot of fun saving her!

Comentado por 388951

So, the healers are the dps? Sounds awesome. I wonder if you can cast Beacon of Light on her.

Comentado por 60430

Looking like it's not possible for any non-directly targeted spells to work on her. Prayer of Mending won't bounce to her, Chain Heal won't chain to her and Beacon won't heal her.

Comentado por thecrius

obviously not, cause she's not in your raid/party.

Comentado por Vorph

This is finally a brand new subject to boss fights. The "former hero, now corrupted villain" cliché was starting to fed people up badly, despite the fact that we have another encounter about that, it can be forgiven because of the character that's been corrupted.

Comentado por 488165

Well, this seems to be an interesting fight, finally something different and fresh. I got tired of all that "DPS: stick your dagger in this, tank: tank, healer: well, heal". I hope we see more of this in future patches/ expansions....Variety is the spice of life.

Comentado por 469068

Considering Beacon is castable on any healable (and buffable) target, I forsee healadins being VERY useful on this fight - Chain Heal, Wild Growth, and Circle of Healing will all have to target her to heal both her AND the raid, while healadins can heal whoever they want and still make a large contribution to the fight - in other words, only if the raid members are within 15 yards of Valithria will it make the AoE spells viable.

In short, healadins ftw.

EDIT: Kinda confused about why I was downrated - beacon isn't party only... so, y'know, I don't really get what I was wrong about.

Comentado por petre

Note that I haven't done the fight so some of the mechanics might be different than some of the assumptions I'm about to make.

Circle of Healing will normally heal only the lowest raid/party members within range of the target, which does not include the target if it is not in raid/party or if it is not one of the 5 (or 6 with glyph) with lowest health in range. I can even hit a normal boss with it and it will heal the players near the boss. If PoM won't bounce then I doubt Circle of Healing will work or that Divine Hymn will be of any use.

I'm going to take a wild stab that Valithria can't reach out and use any nearby lightwells either.

Beacon of Light would not work as it's party-only, but Earth Shield ought to work.

Hand of protection won't help much since most of the damage from the adds appears to be magical, hand of sacrifice may help some if the adds hitting the boss can be minimized so that the transfered damage doesn't threaten the caster. You have to heal the damage anyway if you don't want your paladin to die, but there are lots of easy ways to splash healing to a raid member for free.

I would think of primary importance would be damage-reduction (Grace, Inspiriation, etc) and healing-increase buffs (tree-druid/improved pally aura and glyphed Guardian Spirit ftw). Fire, frost, and nature resists would be nice, but I'm not aware of any targetable versions like priests have for shadow resist. Divine spirit could be a small help if she had any natural health regen during combat, but that seems unlikely.

I would expect you'd want to avoid adding any stam buffs (Mark of the Wild, Blessing of Kings, Fortitude, etc) as they generally add a lot of max health to an NPC without raising actual health any. Blessing of sanctuary probably falls in this category unless the majority of the damage healed during the fight is from adds instead of the initial missing 50%.

Lay on Hands ought to work. Pally tank could use trinkets/cooldowns to hit 60k maybe, throw it on her with Guardian Spirit up and manage a 84k heal to start things? Could it crit too? So much fun stuff to try.

I apologize if the above is a little heavy with priest abilities, but that's my healer ;)

Comentado por 318003

As the encounter is marked as over when Valithria Dreamwalker casts her AoE spell dealing 10,000,000 damage to all enemies within range I suppose it may be, depending on the layout of the citadel,possible to pull Sindragosa to Valithria and have a vast jump on her health pool. Just a thought, but it will probably be impossible due to a blocked passage until Valithria is fully healed or trash of some sort. Perhaps blizzard will overlook this because this seems like a unique encounter. We shall have to wait and see.

Comentado por Omgomgesiuol

Sorry for the.. stupid question, but..
Would it be a good idea for Holy Paladins to switch out their weapons/shields at the start of the fight to high Stam ones (PvP/Tanking) for large LoH heals, or do you think the few seconds of heals with normal gear would be better than the heal?

Answer is probably obvious, But I'm not a Paladin healer so I've no idea what kinda heals they pull off in such short time. (All I know is they heal "a lot")

Comentado por RipperGand

Blackwing Lair was merely a se... Oh wait...

Comentado por 218218

Does anyone else think it was a total cop-out not to give her a unique model...? It's ICC, people, it should be top notch! D:

Comentado por Mitha

Makes sense for raids to heal this boss rather than dps the boss. I'll bet the Druids' Valorous Dreamwalker Regalia came from her. ;D

Comentado por Perrycox

So, if for Onyxia you need MORE DOTS, do you suppose for Dreamwalker you'll need MORE HOTS?

Comentado por xvxsethrenxvx

>.> i dont get how people can be so short sighted... all the things like beacon from pallys and wlld growth from druids require party/raid and i dont think that the "boss" is considered in your party/raid. If u could beacon the dragon then most likely the beacon buff that goes on every1 else that makes the healing they take from the pally go onto the beaconed target 2 wont get applied 2 the raid because the dragon isnt in your raid, same goes with wild growth. And considering MoB from dks heals that much i would say they would do something 2 gimp it since if it has 20 or so stacks thats 80% and bang!, the encounter is over in a couple of seconds thus making the fight useless if you have a blood dk, some people need 2 learn 2 think. Also if u read circle of healing it says "heals your targets party for..." so if you use it on the dragon it will only heal her, making it useless and a waste of mana

Comentado por 243048

It's really nice that these fights in icc are so varied.
An encounter that lets healers truly have their moment in the spotlight is pretty cool.

However I fear that holy paladin stacking will be a tactic for this encounter.

Comentado por 159525

"Okay everyone, switch to your prot pallies. Time for Valithra. Blow your cooldowns.... And NOW! Everyone Lay on Hands!" *Valithra uses Dreamwalker's Rage* "Nicely done. 10 second boss fight."

Comentado por 223108

Valithria will be able to help you a little during the fight. Every so often she will open 6 (on 25-player) portals to the Emerald Dream.

So we finally get to see at least a little bit of the Emerald Dream? I've been waiting a very long time to see what that place looks like - I hope even just the glimpse we get won't be disappointing :P

Maybe a sign of things to come ...

Comentado por Aleck

Since this area is released on ground hog day (at least in the US, not sure if elswhere) they should make at least one of the wave mobs an oversized guinea pig.

Comentado por 395672

It should be noted that given the Mana Void zones spawned, it may be advantageous for the aspiring Resto Druid sproutling to acquire the following:

Spark of Hope
Ephemeral Snowflake

Good old Allison Robert, who writes the Shifting Perspective (druid-focus) articles on Wow.com has tested this combination out, combined with 3/3 Revitalize, and an Idol of Awakening, and found her mana to actually go *up* when spamming Rejuvenate.

I have bolded the important part of her article below:

For the fun of it, I equipped Spark of Hope, the new Ephemeral Snowflake (which -- yes -- returns 11 mana on each HoT tick), and Idol of Awakening alongside 3/3 Revitalize, and watched myself gain mana spamming Rejuvenation. Switching in Idol of Flaring Growth for raids still saw me completely unable to drop below 80% on Festergut despite topping heals.

I would suggest that perhaps this line of thinking might be pursued for the encounter, perhaps glyphing Rapid Rejuvenation even if it is not your usual setup, just for this encounter. Glyph of Rejuvenation is unlikely to be of any help here, since if you're having that much trouble that you need to get her up above 50%? You're probably letting her take too much damage in the first place, and is useless from 50% to 100% HP. As far as the other two glyphs are concerned, it is probably best to stick with the tried and true Nourish and Swiftmend glyphs.

Wild Growth is also unlikely to be of much help here unless you target her with it, inferring by that the text for Wild Growth itself reads, "Heals up to 5 friendly party or raid members within 15 yards of the target for 1442 over 7 sec." Since she is unlikely to be considered a part of your party or raid, we can probably expect Wild Growth to not splash to her, unless Blizzard decides to make some code changes especially for this encounter.

Swiftmend will probably be used as soon as it is off cooldown. Nourish will likely be spammed during free GCDs. Lifebloom will likely be used in a tank-heal fashion, quickly throwing three stacks on the dragon and letting it bloom each time. I don't *think* Healing Touch will be of much use here, aside from either 1) Using it to jumpstart the healing with Nature's Swiftness and trinket usage, or 2) using it to saveheal a raid member.

Even if one does manage to avoid all the mana void zones, given that one of the mechanics of the fight will be the dragon opening portals to the Emerald Dream for players to get the Emerald Vigor buff, it can probably be assumed that this fight will be significantly more healing-intensive than your usual raidboss. That there is no achievement to complete this encounter without this buff might be an indication of just how much of a drain healing this is going to be.

(But seriously, is anyone else as excited as I am that for once, Trees won't see those ridiculous overheal numbers for once? =D)

Link to original article.

Comentado por dreadneck

Heavy Frostweave Bandage FTW.

Comentado por Dragoonman

The Blazing Skeletons can activate Lay Waste fire aura and use Fireball.

I get it! Laying waste! Ha!

Comentado por aneossino

Time to get rid of the usual stuff.

3 Tanks, 6 Healers, 16 DPS is the old fashion.

It's time for the brand new 1 Tank, 1 DPS, 23 Healers setup.

Comentado por 157913

Here's how the dream works. The portals start off as small green orbs, which will grow to full size portals after 10-20 sec. Inside the dream, there's nothing to fight or dps. There are various clouds floating around the room, but they aren't targetable. What you have to do is to fly through them - in the dream, you have the power of flight, which is controlled the same as anywhere else. Each cloud you fly through gives you and anyone else nearby one stack of the buff. It's possible to carry stacks over through dream phases, though it will take practice with getting clouds close enough to the beginning and end of each phase. I haven't encountered any limit to the stacks yet; expect to have 30 or more by the end of the fight if everything goes perfectly.

On 25-man, 3-4 should be going down to the dream. Any more and there will be too much trouble maintaining stacks of the buff. Any less and you won't have enough healing to meet the soft enrage timer. When they're outside the dream, they should heal Valithria exclusively. 2-3 other healers will be sufficient for raid heals. You may also wish to have one healer dedicated to healing Valithria who doesn't go down into the dream.

Comentado por 67131

DPS VDW Macro

/cleartarget
/target Blazing Skeleton
/stopmacro
/target Suppresser
/stopmacro
/target Risen Archmage
/stopmacro
/target Blistering Zombie
/stopmacro
/target Gluttonous
/stopmacro

Comentado por 205809

One of the more original bosses in recent memory. Hopefully if this boss is popular enough they can apply the same mechanics to Ysera when we inevitably fight her in the Emerald Nightmare.

Comentado por 495186

In 25 man she seems to have a soft enrage timer around 7 mins where she loses about 1000k hp every 3 seconds or so.

Comentado por Aeolyn

Just did this in 25man. I'll add what I noticed since this thread seems fairly bare thus far. I'm a Hunter so this is all DPS perspective stuff.

We used 8 healers on our winning run. We assigned 3 healers and 3 caster DPS to go into the portals.

DPS was split evenly on the two sides of the room where the mobs spawn, with one dedicated tank on each side. We tried to stay closeish to the dragon in the center of the room at all times so healing was easy to spread around as needed.

There was some discussion about what causes the Burning Skeletons to begin casting Lay Waste. Instead of messing with trying to avoid triggering it we decided to just call out whenever a skeleton showed up and redirect the DPS to zerg the skeletons down. Beyond this DPS generally stayed on their respective sides.

The worms that spawn after an Abom dies take a couple seconds to show up. They're standard low-health high damage mobs that need to die ASAP. The worms are vulnerable to snare effects and -will- set off Hunter traps. I had a great deal of success Frost Trapping the aboms so that the worms would get caught in it just as soon as they spawned; and then placing an Explosive Trap down just as soon as the Aboms died so that the spawning worms would immediately set it off. This combined with Death & Decay or any other fire-and-forget style AoE damage will annihilate the worms.

The Frostbolt using skeletons can be kicked. They're really not scary at all if you interrupt them.

Suppresors will greatly slow down your fight progression with the debuff they put on the dragon. They won't aggro you so ranged should begin firing on them just as soon as they appear.

As a Surv Hunter I found everything dying too quickly to bother with Black Arrow and had infinitely more success using fire traps in its place.

Because you're fighting a ton of lesser mobs instead of a boss I considered using a Cunning pet for Feeding Frenzy (more damage to low health mobs) but we won the fight before I got around to giving this a try.

Comentado por Typhron

I wonder what the lore for this one is.

"So there's this dragon-"
"Let me guess, we have to kill it."
"No, actually..."

Comentado por matornot

I haven't confirmed this yet, but the swim speed increase from a warlock's Glyph of Unending Breath may increase movement speed while in the dream realm. I noticed an increase in our healers' performance after buffing them with it, but it may have been from experience.

Comentado por SaintStryfe

My group will be giving it's first attempt soon on it.

Q: My heal set is a mix, mostly T9 but some ICC and older Ulduar gear. I'm primarily a DPSer but in this fight is it worth it for an ENH shaman to go secondary spec heals and throw Chain heals at her? will it help the raid, or will the loss of DPS (I typically am second or third on meters) not make up the extra healing?

I guess more generically: Does more healers make this fight easier and should DPS who can go heals to make it faster?

Comentado por 540404

You can bandage her!

Hey every bit counts!

Comentado por Mitercondu

make your pallies spec spellpower and get them into the emerald portals, imo.
epic unsustainable healing defeated by infinite mana from this encounter.

Comentado por 156237

Death Knight's!
Spec on your Rune Tap, and dont forget to Improve it!

Comentado por Robotusch

We did the fight last night on 10-man, and after changing our tactics around a bit, here's what we did for the kill.

Our setup was a bit melee heavy (ranged DPS rule on this fight), with 1 tank (paladin), 3 healers (resto shaman, disc priest, resto druid) and 6 dps (2 DKs, 1 fury warr, 1 rogue, 1 arcane mage, 1 lock).

One very important thing to note about the adds, is that they can all be stunned, rooted, interrupted (except the Blazing Skeletons' Lay Waste ability). As a paladin tank Holy Wrath is your friend. Use it once the adds start piling up.

I was tanking and tried to stay roughly in the middle, moving towards each new mob as they spawned and then returning to the middle.

Risen Archmages
Interrupt! Not so much for the frost aoe damage, but it's even more important to avoid the slow effect if you're melee heavy. Can be 'tanked' a melee plate DPS, as long as people are awake and interrupting. If you're a mana user and tanking this, be very quick to move out of the Mana Void zone, it will nuke your mana pool before you know what hit it.

Blazing Skeletons
MUST DIE FAST. Do NOT interrupt the Fireball Cast. It doesn't hurt for much and if you interrupt it, the mob will switch directly to casting Lay Waste.

Suppressors
Have NO aggro table, so assign a DPS to each side to kill them. They're on a one-minute timer, with their numbers increasing every time. In our case, we put a Death Knight on either side.

Blistering Zombies
We had our Arcane mage and warlock focus on this. It can be rooted, so any mage worth his salt should be able to kite it around. Melee can help out if they want to, just make sure they move away before it explodes (it has a cast time, so they should be able to avoid it).

Gluttonous Abominations
Should be tanked by the designated tank. Face it away from the rest of the raid, but be ready to dispell the Gut Spray in case it hits any bystanders. It will spawn a bunch of worms once it dies, that must be tanked (they hit for ~3000 damage AND stacks a DoT on whoever it hits). Rogues should save their Tricks of the Trade+Fan of Knives combo for the worms.

Portals
Every time the portals were up (3 portals on 10man) , we had two of our healers go through on a rotation and pick up stacks. That leaves an extra portal open, but in our case we chose not to have DPS go through, given that the DPS lost during their time away wouldn't be covered by the potential DPS boost. However, it's useful in case one of your DPS wants the achievement.

Comentado por 350177

Good News for all of your Holy Paladins! Beacon works and is incredibly affective! Sitting on about 3k SP in my Raid Kit... and a nice healthy stack of the green stuff, allowed me to easily push out some juicy 50k non-crits without blowing CD... this throughout the raid and beacon'd to the boss? Only a few words spring to mind... om nom nom nom

Comentado por 145484

Can we bandage Dreamwalker?

Well, just a thought..... Since I have nothing else to do as a hunter when all the adds are down. I maxed First Aid. :D

Just read that we can indeed bandage Dreamwalker. I suppose bandaging it applies the Recently Bandaged debuff as usual, right? Otherwise it would look funny seeing 10+ non-healers bandaging a dragon!

Comentado por 347360

In Soviet Icecrown, boss' health goes up and healers do the damage!

Comentado por 96990

Do not rotate healers because it makes the fight a LOT longer and probably a wipe.
Last night we tried something we didn't last week on 25. First our healing combo was 2 holy palas, resto shamy, disc priest ,holy priest and a resto druid. First week we had a tactic of 2 paladins and one mage entering, turned out to be not enough since we wiped all the time at 32mil no mater what we do. Yesterday one paladin and resto shaman going in and one pala stayed out with the Beacon on the boss all the time while spamming the raid. We healed it full hp with no bigger problems. What was the difference? Well first time we got 2 "major" healers who took bigger part of amount healed on themselves but we had left with 4 healing the raid and sometimes boss.Second time we had 3 healers doing huge healing, 3 healing the boss and 4 healing the raid all the time, this way we got one extra healer with that beacon and shamy did nothing less then paly would do. Maybe this isn't good tactic or something but we did encounter without any problems. WATCH for frostbolts it can s#$ew you up very badly if you are the one entering the portal because it is mostly matter of second or two to refresh the stacks.

Comentado por cloudp

Healers, consider http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41376 for this one. 3% + crit heal when Emerald Vigor starts to stack makes a QUITE noticeable diference.

Comentado por Sumadin

While in dreamworld it count as being both mounted and swimming. So buffs that increases speed while in those states increases your speed here. Pallies you heard right turn crusader aura ON.

Comentado por Nycteris

Holy paladins might want to consider equipping Glyph of Seal of Light for this fight.

Comentado por 338087

...Meteor fists from Kologarn in VOA...

Nitpicking, but I think you mean Koralon. Kologarn is in Ulduar.

Comentado por Mike

If people think of stacking priests for Guardian Spirit chaining, think wrong.

There is a hidden 1 minute "debuff" on Dreamwalker after putting Guardian Spirit on her. Which ultimately means you can only have GS on her once a minute.

Comentado por 392274

I was able to place my Beacon on Dreamwalker and heal the raid with my heals successfully being transferred to Dreamwalker. Usually if you can place a Beacon on your target then your heals will be transfered to them.

Comentado por 548951

What on earth is with all of these people claiming Beacon of Light is party only? It's not, and I don't think it ever has been. Beacon works on her just fine.

Comentado por 150529

ranged priority:

blazzing skeletons- they do big aoe damage that damages both the dragon AND the players, usually you have a 10 seconds merit time to kill them
suppresors-MUST.DIE.NOW. Low hp but when they reach boss,each one cuts 10% of healing done to her,which is HUGE.
rot worm- they have very low hp and,in first glance, they don't seem like a big threat,they spawn from the dead abominations. BUT they,each one,do HUGE damage and leave a stackable dot,making them the n1 reason for dead dps AND tanks.
blistering zombie- they explode when they die,thus should be killed fast enough and be careful not to asplode on your melee
abomination- you should kill them ONLY when you know your tanks can handle the worms, aaveragely high hp, low damage done by themselves, when they die they spawn the worms which is the real threat
rissen archmages- if you have other adds,leave a rogue on them for interupts, even when they actually hit,they aoe isn't so huge, they leave though circles on the ground that explode pretty fast and basically can be wipers.

note: melee dps have the same prio except they should avoid blistering zombie instead of killing them

Comentado por deadbeatffs

I nearly hit my keyboard when 2 times in a row instead of HP increase our raid witnessed the dragon's health going down to 35%...omg. It turned out to be DK's fault and his Hysteria on Vali...lol.

The boss will be a good challengle to your raid dps and maintarget healer hps and aoe healers endurability not to go OOM, as the packs of mobs do their job and put a quite descent pressure on the raid.

probably the best healers setup for this encounter are restor shaman, holy pala and holy priest. we had this setup and shaman and paladin went into the portal to pick up stacks of the buff.
i can't say my raid was low geared but it took us 3 innervates on holy priest to help her healing us while shaman and pala were busy in the emerald dream.

IMO that is an axcellent and interesting encounter that can teach you to play in a team :)

Comentado por 307921

Holy paladin tips & tricks (with some other general items too):

Macro your Beacon to Valithria because your focus clears when entering portals.
/target Valithria
/cast Beacon of Light
Keep your Judgements of the Pure buff active.
Cast Beacon & Judgements when on the move to/from portals and as you're falling out.
Use a timer for Beacon and Judgement or get used to overcasting.
Heal yourself or raid members that are standing close to Valithria to proc Glyph of Holy Light heals onto the dragon as well.
Per Sumadin, Crusader aura helps inside the portals. Confirmed for myself on 3/9/2010. TURBO!
Mentioned @ StratFu: "Gear as if you have infinite mana." Look at gear, talent, and glyph strategies for a Flash of Light build but spam Holy Light. At a minimum try swapping a couple pieces of gear and using the SoL Glyph.
Cooldown stacking is your friend. Create a macro to pop wings, 2pc t10 bonus, trinkets, potion, etc. Work out with your raid to use Heroism and Guardian Spirit at the same time.
Time your cooldowns. Use the above cooldowns (with no potion) at 0 or 1 portals so they are available later in the fight during Heroism.
Teamwork: Have Guardian Spirit up every other time you exit a portal. Time your own cooldowns, Heroism, Power Infusion, etc to happen at the same time.
Bloodlust/Heroism hack: If you have 2 shaman (1 in portal, 1 outside) you can cast it once while the healers are inside the portal (helps catch up on adds) and then a second time for the healers exiting the portals.
I've healed this fight 20 attempts using the paired Onyxia trinkets (1, 2) and the proc has been healing Valithria ~~every time~~ much more than half the time.

Comentado por nossy

This encounter we used in 10m:

Resto Druid (myself) = RaidRx + Dreamwalker
Holy Pally = Designated Dream healer
Holy Priest = Designated RaidRx

We "downed" or "raised" it on 2nd attempt.

Pretty simple encounter. I kept LB stacks, Rejuvenate, and Regrowth ticking on Dreamwalker whenever I can, while keeping Rejuvenate on all Raid members, and Swiftmend or NS+Healing touch anyone who is in need of emergency heal. It is especially important at 75%-80% hp to BL/Heroism, and this is the best time to throw a very very fast Tranquility and all ur big heals on Dreamwalker. If you target Dreamwalker, your Wildgrowth will heal her too.

DPS got the hardest job in this fight as they must kill certain target very fast so you got to have good DPS. Tanks must pick up Abominations and they are to be dealth last by dps.

Comentado por kivshani

From our experience with the fight, Holy Priests are really good here: we keep one outside, he heals the raid (usually enough), and uses Guardian Spirit when the other two healers come out of the portals.

We also use Bloodlust when we have around 20 stacks, though it doesn't really help Resto Druids.

Comentado por Nightbird

Anyone know a good general raid composition for 10man? More specifically, what specs the healers should be.

Comentado por semlar

Had the encounter bug after topping off the boss, apparently the Rot Worms from the abominations don't despawn and prevent the door to the room from entering. The raid wiped right after getting her to 100% and nobody could get back into the room.

Comentado por 111622

Make your priests go Holy.

Guardian Spirit increases healing taken by 40% for 10 seconds.

The Glyph makes it a 1 minute cooldown.

This isn't just healing taken from the Priest, it's all healing, you pair this up with her stacking debuffs, heroism, and everything you got (blood dk's, gift of narru, vampiric embrace, etc) then this will be a pretty quick fight.

Comentado por 558139

A trick we found out to work insanely well in our 25 man was to do this:

1. Have a hunter get a tenacity pet, any will do.
2. Make sure it's spec'ed into Blood of the Rhino.
3. Beacon Dreamwalker
4. Park the pet (put it on stay) under her.
5. Heal the pet.
6. ?
7. PROFIT!

Now, it may seem weird for a hunter to use a tenacity pet in a raid, but there's a reason for this. Blood of the Rhino increases healing done to the pet by 40%. With Dreamwalker beaconed, she'll get 40% more heals just by healing the pet alone.

If anyone is wondering what a good spec would be, it would be this one. Since the pet is getting healed to begin with, using Roar of Sacrifice on Dreamwalker, namely when a blazing skeleton is out, would help mitigate some of the damage she takes.

Apparently not working?

Comentado por reid52

Silly blood elf.. Thunderheart is for druids!

Comentado por 564055

has anyone checked to see if a death knight's rune tap works on her with the glyph?

Comentado por 239202

Our group did this last night
we do this in a very easy way
1 tank is enough for this fight....
2 melee kill suppressor as soon as possible
other stay in center and kill adds....
we have 4 healer....
resto druid on raid all the time
me (holy pala) on raid with beacon on Valithria
other 2 healer (1 restodruid and 1 holy priest) go inside portals every time they spawn... after 4 portal they have 18-20 stack each....
at this point we did Heroism, and Valithria is full healed, 1.30 minute before berseker...
Piece of cake

Comentado por 573207

Regarding buffs on the lizard:
Wouldn't stam buffs on her actualy just make our job alot harder? I havnt noticed if kings and preist buffs have actualy increased her overall health, but I am assuming they do. Since she is never in any danger of dying I would suggest single target buffs on pets and warriors in the buff stage before fight, if she takes more health. Anyone know if this is accurate?

Also, a concern about Beacon:
I know we can beacon her and continue to heal raid. However, does that stack directly benefit raid members or only her? In other words, if she is the beacon, she is not the healers target and if that stacking buff only increases healing done to her then she might not be getting the benefit of the cloud stack. I think other pally healers will understand what I'm talking about on this one.
Any thoughts?
Respectfully
Wasappaneen

Comentado por 308914

Things to note. The 25m heroic portals are finnicky finnicky pains in the arse. These redheaded spawn of the green portals will do anything in their redheaded power to keep you from going into them. Jump your toon and click the portal? You aren't getting in. Oh, and don't even think about clicking them twice. It's one or done son. Seriously tho, these portals are buggy as can be still. I lost stacks 2 times in three attempts on a portal simply not doing anything after I clicked to mount it. Made me a sad panda.

Also, this is a wonderful fight for resto shams who wants to artificially inflate their healing numbers. You know who you are. You're the guy spamming riptide+HWs on the abom on Professor Putricide between the oozes. Well, glyph of healing wave is your ticket to big ego inflated numbers on this fight. After 20 stacks and a riptide+HWx3 (or 4) rotation you'll be healing yourself for 10k plus on top of your 50k+ HWs on the lady dragon.

Comentado por Fowm

I am a holy paladin that has done the fight on 10m/25m/10m heroic and found that you can use beacon of light and glyph of holy light to achieve some insane numbers on this encounter.

Beacon of Light normalizes the heals that are cast between the Beacon target and the Heal target for % based healing buffs (i.e. paladins 5% healing increase, rogue's quick recovery, warlocks demon armor, etc). However if you park something, or yourself next to the dragon and you heal your beacon will heal the normalized amount of the direct heal plus the increased glyph of holy light heal will splash the dragon. The glyph of holy light heal can be like 10-20k heals after you have a sufficient amount of stacks.

Using this I was able to achieve ~40k HPS on 25 man (7 million of the dragon's total health). Using my AW/DI at the very start of the fight and then once again around 3-4 mins into the encounter when we used bloodlust after healers had about 20-25 stacks.

Comentado por 2008

I can't speak for heroic 25, but on heroic 10, Dreamwalker still has the same health that she does on normal ~12m. The difference is that her health declines at a constant rate. The portals that spawn are red and not green ("corrupt"?). I believe there are only 10 Nightmare Clouds that will give you Twisting Nightmares and not the Emerald Vigor. Only difference is that you'll be stacking a small DoT on yourself. It's pretty easy to mitigate. Just be careful when dropping out of the dream realm. If you're too high up and you have the DoT, you're at risk to kill yourself on the fall.

We tried our normal strategy that we used for 10 normal of just 2 healers going into the portal. Four minutes into the fight, we barely got her above 60% because of the "decay". We had to move to 3 healers going into all three portals every time with a 4th healer on the raid full time. We got her to 85%+ before we got overwhelmed (only using 1 tank and the rest DPS).

Throwing 3 healers into the portal with 10 clouds can be rough. Healers can share the debuff if the cloud explodes and two of them are next to it. (Pretty sure that's what happened to us.)

We didn't get the "kill" (we only tried that strategy twice before moving back to normal due to time), but I believe that's how we'll have to do it on our next attempts.

Does anyone know the rate of decay for her health?

BTW, the Blistering Zombies seem to move twice the speed (maybe not that fast, but it's significantly faster) Your kiter needs to be on the ball before it gibs a healer :)

Comentado por 322301

We did this on heroic 10 man yesterday and I must say it was quite a challenging hard mode, compared to the ones we did before (we're currently on 9/12 heroic).

Initially our raid setup was as following:

Healers
Discipline priest (myself)
2x Resto shaman
Holy paladin

Tanks
Blood DK
Druid

DPS
Mage
Hunter
Warlock
Shadow priest

The plan was to have one of the resto shamans and the holy paladin to enter the portals. The other shaman and myself would stay outside for raid healing. Since I'm a disc priest, I'm not much use inside, so we figured it'd be better if I raid healed. Plus we didn't really know how brutal the raid damage would be, hence the 2 raid healers.

Problem with this setup was that we were lacking DPS to take down the adds, so we'd inevitably get overrun by adds and I would run out of mana. We also had the healers inside the portals drop their stacks a couple of times, although that's more of a player issue than a problem with the strategy.

Once we got a feeling of the fight, we switched to three healers in the portals, with me raid healing. This proved to be better, as Valithria was healed faster, but on our best attempt we got her to 80%, with me completely out of mana, having used all mana restoring options and only 30 seconds left till enrage. I'm not exactly sure what happened, but I think it was a combination of lack of DPS and someone dropping the stacks. Also, the interrupts on the frostbolt volleys were a bit iffy, and didn't always work, which would result in more mana drained from the healers.

After some discussion we decided to swap a couple of roles. We had our DK tank go DPS and had the lesser geared resto shaman log his rogue, so we'd have more DPS to burn down the adds. The remaining resto shaman and holy paladin would still go inside the portals.

We immediately felt the difference regarding the adds. Skeletons were burned down before they could lay waste and the archmages were ripped apart before they got off a volley. This had an immediate impact on my mana, since the raid healing was a lot less brutal.

I must say it was quite a challenge for our druid tank to single-handedly pick up all the adds and keep them from tearing apart our healers. It did take a couple of tries to perfect this.

On our last attempt everything seemed to come together. The dragon healers didn't loose their stacks and we got her to 85% with the adds still under control. We popped heroism and had our healers stay outside for the remainder of the fight. At 97% I got obliterated by an abomination that wasn't picked up properly (maybe a taunt miss), but it didn't matter anymore. With the huge heals going around, we quickly got her to 100% and she finished off the adds!

All things considered a well designed, proper hard mode and quite a challenge to solo raid heal, but we made it :D

Comentado por 478719

fun fact, you can win this encounter with everyone dead! =)

Comentado por Rahaja

Ok, sry I don't know how to link anything yet but will dreamwalker be healed if a DK with Rune tap glyphed
(heals party members for 10% of their Hp) work on this fight?

Comentado por 501593

Grows with Bloodlust/Heroism! ;D

Comentado por 526557

I have scanned the comments lighlty and were supprised to find out that no one have mentioned this.

Holy Preist with Glyph of Guardian spirit = <3 in this fight.

I (holy preist) usually stay outside, raidhealing, while Holy pally and resto drood collects the balls (yeah, I know). I pop guardian spirit the second the fight starts, when the CD is off I wait for em' to get out if they're in the dreamworld and pop it again. Towards the end our holy pally was critting Holy Light for 200k+ while guardian spirit was up O.o

Comentado por 96881

Worth mentioning that on hard mode, the Blistering Zombies have a major speed boost. We fired up hard mode and I swear Usain Bolt came running out of the gate and clubbed a few people before our hunters could begin kiting him.

Comentado por 354238

To decrease the speed of zombies in heroics, can a paladin use Judgment of Justice to limit their speed to normal?

Comentado por 626646

As a healer, to make sure that you don't lose buff stacks before the next portal, plan to pop an orb at the last 5 seconds or so. If you use a buff-tracking addon, you can track Dream State to show how many seconds you have remaining in the dream.

In hard mode, orbs will not respawn before the next dream phase, so it is important not to hog them. With 4 healers going in (25-man), each can only grab around 3 orbs unless you decide to use the orb-sharing strat (which may not be easy with lag).

If you see a healer just standing near an orb, they're probably waiting out the timer before grabbing their final orb. Don't be greedy; find another one.

Comentado por 330855

Yet another edit: After yet another experiment, it seems that pet heals do get picked up by beacon, which makes me wonder... why wouldn't it work?

Previously misunderstood the process, nobody explained it very well. I thought they were trying to use the paladin's beacon in order to make the hunters mend pet heal Dreamwalker, which would never work. The idea was to have pets that received boosts to all incoming heals through talents, be healed by the paladin with his/her beacon on dreamwalker, so the boosted heals would be picked up by the beacon and transferred to Dreamwalker. As I understand it, this worked at one time, and now it has been changed so it doesn't. There are two ways I can think of that they might have accomplished this, the first would be to not have target specific healing boosts pass through the beacon, the second would have been to change the hunter/pet talents so they only worked with mend pet. If they did the first method than this would affect all situations, if they used the second method, it would still be possible for a character with boosted healing talents (for example a feral druid with +20% healing received in cat form) to fill this role, but then they wouldn't be able to participate in the fight much except for killing suppressors.

Not sure if anyone has tested this yet.

Comentado por 633333

I've just wiped few times on her, and found out perfect way to do this, but you will need 3 healers to do it this way. One healer is constantly entering portals, and have mroe and more buffs ( I had 43 when I've wiped) other 2 ones stay in real realm, and one of them enther emrald realm, next time other one enters it, so both of them recover mana. Only the healer who constantly enters emrald realm heals that dragon, other 2 ones just keep raid alive. We've get her up to 90% and hen, because of low dps, VEEERY LOW DPS, like 2k? We wiped.

Comentado por 53867

Blood DK's can cast Hysteria on this dragon.

I'm just saying. Causing her to do 20% more physical damage and loosing 30% health over 30 seconds.

Yes I confirmed it today, she does loose 30% health, and i think it's about 3 million hp on 10man.
No I am not kidding, a single dk in your raid can intentionally mess everything up.

Here is the question, can 2 dk's kill her when she starts at 50% ?

Comentado por 573550

Something tells me this fight is going to be alot easier with the new changes to the healing system.

Comentado por Jigs

Sadly I can confirm that at the current 4.1 patch this encounter is extremely glitched. There seems to be a big blue aura surrounding her resulting in you always targetting her wherever you click inside the room.

Also for those who still do Mount runs I got bad news for that too; Targetting enemies and clicking the portals barely works due to the glitch I described above. We kept failing the Portal Jockey because no one could click on the portals, let alone everytime they spawn.

PS. Most of our guildies who didn't have the meta are stuck with this Achievement on their list.

Comentado por Ravenhair

This fight is pure fun for healers. I love it. ^^ Did this a while ago and the Holy Paladin we had with us said that he would leave the portals to me, since he wasn't exactly sure how the method worked. He promised to keep peeps alive while I was away. But he joined me later and helped me a little. Took something like 5-6 mins, not 100% sure though. Even Resto Druids who are weak on single target healing shine in this encounter. Nothing more satisfying than seeing Lifebloom expire and critting over 150K with the buff. <3 So yeah, all healers, take the everything out in this, this is one of the bosses that will never be solo'd unless you have good healing spells.

Comentado por 626994

She is one of the few lives we actually get to save, directly at least. It would be nice to see her again.
Hopefully in a nice-er situation ...

Comentado por Wazdakka

Wiped on her twice today in 10 heroic, with 9 85s, ilvl 334-390 and a lvl 82 rogue w/ ilvl ~288-294.

Problem with the first time - only one dedicated healer, tried to make ret pally and feral Druid heal - even in cata, this is probably a no-go.

Second time - 1 resto Druid and resto shammy, ilvls 384ish. Problem? In heroic mode, the are nightmare stacks in addition to the healing buff, and our healers chickened out with it. Also, they let their stacks drop by entering the portals too early or too late. So, we hit berserk.

Here's some info - here "berserk" means about 20-30 adds flooding the room from each side - it becomes impossible to kill them all, and if you don't get gang-smashed outright, the aoes will get you. I think it happens at about 7 minutes, correct me if I'm wrong.

Comentado por Mooseondaloose

Gift of the Naaru at the moment seems to work properly on her and significantly shortens the time required to heal her up since it heals for 20% of max hp over 15 seconds.

Comentado por TheAztec

a group and i have been doing icc for xmog gear and achievements, never took the time to try if Lay on Hands work on this boss?

Comentado por Drudan

Solo'ed as a resto shaman (which is my offspec, 464 ilvl).

Sequence of events:

Earth Shield on Val for the bonus healing
Drop Primal Earth Elemental Totem (no channeling, you want it to pick up mobs)
Bloodlust and Elemental Mastery
Drop Healing Tide Totem
Ascendence
Spam Greater Healing Wave between Riptide casts

The elemental should keep the initial mobs off of you so make the most of those first 40 seconds of the fight. Move out of the Frost Bombs (SWG so you can keep healing). Val does take a tiny amount of damage and procs the Earth Shield heals, which is good, but remember to refresh when it falls off. Kite the adds as much as you can. It gets pretty hectic at the end but you should be able to top her off in time.

Yes, your heals do increase her maximum health with Ancestral Vigor, which sucks. I contemplated stopping the heals on her after crossing her original health pool (12 million on 10 man) and letting that buff fall off, but I just decided to go with and keep healing. It should be a fairly quick fight if you do it right.

If it's not going well, take one of the portals and the fight will reset.

Happy soloing! Everything other fight in the instance can be soloed easily as enhancement.

Comentado por silverhazed

Solo'd as prot pally - respecced with Eternal Flame and Execution Sentence and glyphed Battle Healer (which did a good amount of healing) and Word of Glory to help nuke adds down.
Macro'd EF and ES to /cast and them spammed EF instead of SOTR and ES every cd and killed mobs near her for Battle Heals and was easy enuff.

Comentado por Bahthalend

Ok mega stupid question incoming.................Any possible way for a class with no healing(warrior in my case) to solo this? I know it's rediculous but people find some crazy loopholes in this game. Soloing LK would be epic but no way for me to get to him as is.

Comentado por Cinnamohn

Soloed this a couple of days ago on my Hunter (ilv475). I just posted a video on it, where I explain the strategy I used and how others can go about doing it. (Commentary, not text.)

Note: Lots of preparation is required. Difficulty will vary based on gear and race.

Still doable in 5.2 - link.

Comentado por 1105366

HAWT!

Comentado por Nobbel

How to: Solo Valithria Dreamwalker on 10 man heroic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioljq8iGRKo

Comentado por rinkworks

I'm surprised not to find more posts about how to solo this with non-healing classes. In some cases the answer might be that it's impossible, but with the game having so many obscure resources, I wonder if we could figure out a way for many of them.

Neat trick from JCrystal, soloing with a Hunter by rotating through 5 pets, casting Spirit Mend from each.

Has anybody tried out soloing this with a Mage after a Druid has cast Symbiosis on him?

Any others?

Comentado por duranox

It is possible to solo this as a dk with a lot of patience since you need blood spec and 2 1handed weapons that are fast as hell. everything that counts in this fight is attacks since your goal is healing through blood worms. It cannot take forever also since after a while they will swarm you making it impossible.

Comentado por 1137079

All the others are regular KILL KILL KILL bosses that need all the muscle you've got. She's the reason most people will need a team in this raid. Very clever. My team was three-man, so it was a good thing they had me, even though I'm a Ret-adin and not geared to kiss it better. Even my healing effects are based around being in battle.

But by using Eternal Flame at three charges each time, and using Stay of Execution once a minute, and boosting them with Avenging Wrath, it's still perfectly possible for a Retribution Paladin to heal her. It wasn't pure solo, but one of them died pretty early on, so it was only one guy keeping my back.

You can't do it with Flash Of Light alone; it uses up too much mana for continuous healing. But when you've got a full Mana bar you can get four quick charges out of it.

Backup should be Blessing of Kings. The Seal should be Insight, for your own sake. Here's the initial rotation, which all your subsequent heals will be based off:

1: Holy Charge to 5 on the starting mob

2: Avenging Wrath (for the heal boost)

3: Stay Of Execution

4: Eternal Flame,

5: 4x Flash Of Light

6: Holy Charge to 5

7: Eternal Flame,

Never use your Holy Charge on attacks. Always use Eternal Flame from five charges and Execution in its healing form. As for Flash Of Light, wait until your Mana Bar is full (or almost) then chain it to four.

When you use Avenging Wrath, keep in mind that you want the boost to go as much as possible to Healing, not damage.

Comentado por ucplayer

4 tries at 99%...

Using vamp bloob when off CD.
2x TBC weps.
spamming heart strikes on mobs.
killing supressors ASAP.

513 ilvl

This fight sucks!

Comentado por 1183880

Valithria Dreamwalker CAN be skipped by engineers. Here's how;

After defeating the Blood Queen a hatch opens allowing you to fall down to the lower level. Position yourself a few steps away from the hatch facing north west. Jump in the air, use your glider and you'll fly through the wall (glitch). Make sure you don't hit the edge of the hatch. Once you're through, glide to Sindragosa Lair (on the right). It's a bit tricky, but the glitch still works.

Credits to demonsavior .

Comentado por Beace

As a Monk Windwalker in ~540 gear I was unable to solo this 10-man normal. Managed to do about 50% of the required healing before getting overrun. I was not using bandages, which would add about 10% healing.

Maybe if you're in full SoO HC gear it might be doable, but I honestly doubt it. I also tried picking up a Mistweaver spec while still using agi gear (have no healing gear), but it was even worse.

Comentado por ratspootin

Soloed her tonight at 504 as a Ret pally following this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioljq8iGRKo

Tactics: With the talents set up this way, Judgment will trigger near instant cast Flash of Lights that you'll use on Valithria. Don't use any of your attacks that require 3 holy power (Templar's Verdict or Divine Storm) on the adds, use Word of Glory to heal her instead. Don't forget that Avenging Wrath increases heals and that Execution Sentence heals on friendlies so use them when they're off CD. If you've never ran ICC before, the Suppressors (the geists that spawn to the left and right of her) decreases the healing she receives from you so killing them first is your top priority (Hammer of Righteousness and an autoattack will do it). Also watch your feet for the ice circle that the Risen Archmage's cast--that's what is throwing you up in the air. They're easy to move away from once you know what to look for.

Macros: I put her on focus and macroed Execution Sentence, Lay on Hands, Flash of Light and Word of Glory to cast on focus. Valithria's hitbox is freaking huge so clicking back on adds can be frustrating. I also kept a Flash of Light for me as an emergency heal. You'll use FL and WG a lot so put them on keybinds that are easy to get to.

/cast Word of Glory

Gear (LFR + Timeless): Gemmed to Mr. Robot's liking, but my helm was meta-less; enchanted to Mr. Robot's liking except I used Windsong instead of Dancing Steel on Greatsword of Pride's Fall (528); reforged mostly into Haste/Mastery against Mr. Robot's wishes but screw him.

Talents: Long Arm of the Law - Fist of Justice - Selfless Healer - Divine Purpose - Unbreakable Spirit - Execution Sentence.

Fist of Justice, Selfless Healer and Divine Purpose is how you're pulling off healing 6M+ heals as Ret. It's pretty epic.

Glyphs: Glyph of Avenging Wrath - Glyph of the Battle Healer - Glyph of Word of Glory
Avenging Wrath helps heal you, Battle Healer will heal her when you attack the adds and Word of Glory will give you a DPS boost.

Buffs: Blessing of Might - Seal of Insight - 200 Mastery from Pearl Tea Milk - No flasks or drums because I'm poor.

FYI: Selfless Healer + Divine Purpose + Unbreakable Spirit is also a nice way to keep/get yourself healed above 90% during Lich King with one instant Flash of Light.

Comentado por JBird

This Is do-able as a Brew master Monk in about 520ish gear (I've gotten better gear since i did it) The trick is to use your black statue, since it willl go off and put a shield up on her, which will protect her from all the AoE attacks during the enrage where things spawn stupidly fast.

I got that one glyph that lets you use expel harm on others glyph of guard (since all AoE is magic any who gives black statue a stronger shield) and glyph of enduring healing spheres, got Chi torpedo and Zen Sphere, and clarity.

My strategy was to stay in the middle of her where chi torpedo would heal her and then spam spinning crane kick moving left and right taking out adds/gheists things making sure to use chi torpedo when i can for more healing. I made sure to always use Zen sphere on her and myself(for the burst healing it did at the end, first her then me then her again), while using expel harm on her whenever it was up. Make sure to keep black statue up too (it might de-spawn over the length of the fight) so that way you can keep putting the guard spell on her which will come in handy a lot (especially during the enrage time)

This will take a while and your going to hit the enrage, but this is where glyph of enduring healing spheres kicks in, as you do the fight you'll spawn spheres usually in a line, and by the time the enrage hits you'll have a ton of them at hand to keep yourself up if you keep moving from left to right you will keep picking them up as you get injured, and by the time they spawn like crazy you'll be getting so many healing spheres spawned you can keep yourself to full.

it takes some getting used too and a bit of practice and luck, but if you do it right you should be able to get her to 100% before the gheists themselves start to spawn too fast and make healing her impossible.

Comentado por Vonriel

Another Retribution Paladin's pespective on soloing this encounter.

First, my healing Recount data:
Flash of Light healed 2.48 million
Word of Glory healed 1.85 million
Lay on Hands healed 1 million
Stay of Execution healed 670k (30 ticks)
Seal of Insight healed 136k

The final healing done to Valithria was 6.05 million

I list my Seal of Insight healing because I used the Glyph of the Battle Healer, but good grief was its contribution negligible, as you can see. My relevant talents were Selfless Healer and Execution Sentence. I'm not sure whether Selfless Healer is better than Eternal Flame for this fight, but my gut says that since Eternal Flame's heal-over-time portion gets overwritten so fast by your Word of Glory spam, the empowered Flashes of Light will do much more than Eternal Flame will.

Recount says the fight ended in 107 seconds, meaning even with Unbreakable Spirit I didn't have enough time to throw out two Lay on Hands. The goal of the fight is to fire a Flash of Light at the boss every time you either hit three stacks of Selfless Healer, or your Supplication is about to run out. The Abominations in the fight were level 83, meaning each kill was a guaranteed Flash of Light crit, and I wound up healing for 300k+ on 3-stack Flash of Light crits. Dump every Holy Power you get into Word of Glory on the boss, make sure you kill the geists before attempting to heal her, and you win in 3 minutes or less.

My item level is sitting at 523, so it may take longer for less-geared Paladins to do this fight. The method should remain the same, though.

Comentado por jahf

Feral druid, ilvl 527. Key for me soloing on 10m normal (just trying to open up Heroic) was to take Heart of the Wild as my final talent. Pop it as soon as the first adds are done, spam heals for 45 seconds, clearing any Suppressors that pop (and always prioritize them). Then keep clearing adds and popping Rejuvenation and, when you have the mana, Healing Touch during the add waves. Just before the soft enrage (too many adds to kill), you should be able to pop Heart of the Wild one more time and finish healing her up while adds pound on you. The soft enrage kicked in just as I was a couple of heals away and was able to get her healed up.

Definitely not doing it solo for 10H or 25m versions, and you can't get the achieve solo anyway (it resets if you enter the healer portal) so this won't work for those. But good enough for opening 10m solo.

Higher DPS toons (I don't have the legendary cloak yet) will have an easier time on keeping adds down but it won't help much since the timer on Heart of the Wild is going to be the same.

PS. I didn't have any mana pots or regen items. Switch forms sparingly ... let yourself get enough mana to cast both Rejuv and Healing Touch in the same round each time to maximize your shifting.

Comentado por dillybar

Our group had 5 dps in 10 man normal, so we could get ready to get them the heroic achievement next week. As a hunter I was able to solo heal but just barely, we wiped once then got past it. While it's possible I wouldn't recommend it, took forever and we just barely got it the second time with one of the other dps doing some paltry heals also I'm a BM hunter with spirit beast heals going every 30 seconds and used about 10 windwool bandages on her also. Recount is a little skewed because it reads the total healing from the bandages/spirit heal (where as the boss only takes a percentage of that) and showed me with 22 million in healing total for the night's raid overall. I don't think this would ever work on 10 man heroic.

Comentado por Bahthalend

At least make this fight skippable or something, it's just a ****block for anyone soloing without heals.

Funny thing is bandaids would probably work if you had a ton of them and there was no first aid debuff.

Comentado por twiggimmapiggus

Managed to skip this with my mage and the aid of a rogue (my husband :3)

The rogue is an engineer, and he used his hang-glider to take advantage of the glitch seen here:
Youtube link of someone else doing it.
After your friend-the-engineer kills Sindragosa, the portal in the middle of the chamber should open up for you. If it doesn't, run back to the teleportation mechanism, teleport to the first option on the list, and try the port again.

Or if you're both engineers, even better. :D

Comentado por Everliving14

This fight is soloable as a Blood DK. Video link.

The general idea is to run around hitting things so as to proc Bloodworms, who will heal Valithria to full. This is surprisingly quick - assuming about 1M health it will take around 4 minutes to do this on 10N, and with more stamina gear it would go even faster.

Things to note:

1. Equip a pair of very fast, very weak one-handers, so as to not kill the mobs quickly. Lâmina Dimensional is a good example of such a weapon. Also, equip all your Stamina gear - remember, Bloodworm healing scales with your health!

2. Don't use diseases, they scale with your attack power and kill things quickly.

3. Stand slightly outside Valithria's hit box area so as to not waste Bloodworm healing on yourself.

4. Kill the Suppressors and Risen Archmages first; everything else is lower priority (even the Blazing Skeletons) as they do not deal damage to Valithria.

Heart Strike is very good at proccing Bloodworms. The Glifo Calcinado may be of use as well.

Edit: As of 6.0, this method no longer works, as Bloodworms have been removed from the game. :(

Comentado por wankstone

Blood DK:
After 11 wipes on this (4 with a partner), I finally managed to solo it after 8+ minutes.

In addition to dual-weilding Gumepresto Robusto de Cobalto; spamming Heart Strike, Rune Strike, and Death Stirke ad nauseum; burning down Suppressers and Archmages ASAP; what appeared to be the game changers for me were swapping in this Stam trinket Coragem Líquida de Lao-Chin (which was conveniently buried in my bags), and the Stam flask Frasco da Terra.

Keep the fight close to Valithria so you don't waste any heals, try to stay on top of the Supressers and Mages, stay out of the explosions which launch you into the air and waste valuable time, and most importantly stay alive. Use defensive CDs when/if things get rough. Use Arma Rúnica Dançante as often as possible to help proc more worms.

It can be done. keep trying!

Comentado por Merphos

Soloed this on 25M Normal in 5.4.2 as a Ret Paladin ilvl 534.

Glyphs used:

In hind sight, might've been a better choice than DS or WoG glyph.

Talents that mattered were:
Curador Abnegado
Espírito Indestrutível

I used no flasks or food buffs. I did use Cristal da Insanidades though.
As a seal I used of course to heal Valithria through .
I buffed myself with since it made more sense than .
The paladin T16 4-set bonus Item - Paladin T16 Retribution 4P Bonus was also really useful in this fight.

I made target focus-macros out of all my abilities that I used to heal Valithria; Word of Glory, Flash of Light, Execution Sentence and Lay on Hands ( /cast spellname). Valithria was, of course my focus target.

During the fight I used almost all my Holy Power on WoGs, casted as many instant or non-instant FoLs that I could, used ES and LoH on every CD and tried to time my Avenging Wrath together with periods during which I could heal a lot. I popped GoAK on every CD too to ease killing the adds.

My 1# priority with the adds were the small geists that cast Supressão on Valithria. I would even use my holy power to kill them faster with DS or TV since it felt pointless to heal Valithria when Supression was up.

I positioned myself in the middle of Valithria even though it meant the adds were able to hit her with their AoE. The damage their AoEs caused was negligible.

I managed to get her HP to 100% well before the adds swarmed me. I think I got lucky with Divine Purpose and T16 4-set bonus procs though, which meant I was popping a lot of free WoGs and healing myself with DSs which in turn caused more Divine Purpose procs.

Good luck, hope this helps!

Edit 1: 19th Feb. Added a link to a spell.

Comentado por valentyn0

u cant solo this as DK, even with blood spec, worms will heal max 200k but timer will go berserk around 5minute.

Comentado por Araitik

Valithria Dreamwalker is soloable as a Mage :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqGqEZnvbpk

Enjoy !

Comentado por brightyuk

The last two times I have soloed Dreamwalker10 on heroic the Baú do Andassonho hasn't been lootable. Not sure what is causing it but a bug report has been submitted.

Worth bearing in mind if, like me, you are farming ICC10HC for transmog gear.

Comentado por TrutusBalnazzar

What happens if you use the Unglyphed version of Unholy Frenzy on Valithria? O.o

Comentado por njdss4

On the PTR for patch 6.0.2, healing Valithria Dreamwalker has never been easier to solo. On my Elemental Shaman, I was healing for a MILLION health per heal, and the encounter was over in a few seconds. Not sure if this is a bug or not, but it was definitely a significant change to the encounter.

Comentado por nyctric

Possible to solo as a BM Hunter (at least on 10 man, although I haven't tested 25 or heroic versions of both sizes).
As far as ilvl goes, I would say at least ... I'm not sure tbh, but 500 might be a good start.
You will need 5 spirit beasts (the porcupine in Jade Forest is an easy tame and quick respawn). I have heard of some Hunters doing it with 3 but I feel safer doing it with 5.
Make sure to have VD as your focus and use this macro (apologies if it is out of date or doesn't work):

/cast Spirit Mend

After your spirit beast has cast Spirit Mend, dismiss it and summon your next spirit beast. Repeat this process through all your pets and by the time your last pet has been dismissed, your first pets spirit mend will be off cooldown.
The things to look out for is the Suppressors and Blazing Skeletons.
Watch out for the ice spouts that the Lichs spawn underneath you. Pick them off quickly too as it can interrupt your dismiss pet cast. The abominations aren't really a problem, but try and have them die away from the boss.

Comentado por diogogb

As of Warlords of Draenor pre-patch (6.0.2), the door behind Valithria (which leads to Sindragosa) is now open by default.

Comentado por Eddafred

Finished this fight in about 4 seconds on my Ret Paladin on 10m Normal. Each Flash of Light healed her for 3mil, so two casts and bam.

Comentado por Twilkey

I didn't try this out of stealth, but you currently can skip this boss by stealthing past the mobs. I did it on y hunter using camouflage.

Comentado por John1986

I heard this boss was skip able in the newest patch just not sure how

Comentado por fwiffo

Soloed last night as 90 Combat Rogue. Kill Supressors quick and Heavy Frostweave Bandage when adds are a distance away and she has no DOTs on her. Took 20mins.

Comentado por Rangefear

Completely skippable as of 6.0.2. Just run right through her and down elevator.

Comentado por Gurfang

Soloed with frost DK, only using bandages to heal, 10man normal. Took 17 heavy windwool. Would have been less but got interrupted a few times.
Very easy, just takes a little time.

Comentado por Rizzwhit

For any rogues of dubious sanity out there who wish to solo this encounter: yes, it is possible to finish her with just Heavy Windwool Bandages.

You can give up on getting the achievement, though.

Comentado por voodoopimp

No way for a non-healing class to solo this on 25-man, I suppose?

Comentado por sprendinea

You can completely bypass this boss as of patch 6.0.2, but it is very hard to avoid starting the fight. So instead, you can start the fight and when the Emerald Portals spawns, click them and reset the fight. Then safely go through the door.

Comentado por restoemu

for the non-healers that try to find ppl to go heal this --> http://youtu.be/mauZX6xJBkg
this one is for you

Comentado por Nevarii

Looks like she has become skipable now. The last two times on my BM hunter I have been able to pass her and get down to the next floor. After killing the second last boss, Sindragosa, I was able to get to Lich King. First time I used Feign Death because my spirit pet wasn't good enough to heal her but than I realised I could enter this elevator down to next boss. Second time, as I did today, I just passed her without starting the fight. All went fine :)

Comentado por DefensorPacis

Copied from a reply in this thread, so more people will see this:
I was able to do this with only 5 bandages on 25m, if I recall correctly. I, too, was curious why I kept getting interrupted for apparently no reason, so I payed close attention. What I have discovered, is that the DoT applied by the Blistering Zombies or the Gluttonous Abominations, on either you or Valithria, will cause your bandage to stop as soon as either of you take any damage. Just try to kill everything you can, place yourself as far from mobs as you can, and bandage her. It was ticking for 225k for me. Will post later today if I can solo Heroic 25.

Comentado por Gneisenau

I am getting a bug where after healing her and completing the encounter, her Loot Box rezzes on the floor but you cannot click on it. Is anyone else having this issue? Maybe I am healing her so fast that it bugs the encounter.

No loot/Saronite for me. =(

Comentado por 1437529

Just downed her as a level 100 ilvl 621 hunter in 6.0.3. Thought I'd add some updated info for those looking to solo this.

You need to be BM spec and have at least one spirit beast. I play MM almost exclusively so I had to go tame one. The Pandaria ones (Gumi, Degu, and Hutia) may not be as bragworthy, but they respawn every 10 minutes instead of once a millennium like the others.

Add a macro to your action bar like so:
/cast Spirit Mend(Exotic Ability)

Right-click Valithria to set as your focus target. Also, turn off your pet's autocast of Spirit Mend.

That's it. Go ahead and engage. Just kill everything that pops up and spam your heal macro every time it's up. At level 100 the adds are one-shots, and the spirit mend does tremendous healing. I finished in under 3 minutes on 10-man heroic on my first try, which was a lot faster than I expected for a non-healing class.

There's a video out there (youtube.com/watch?v=Gue_YfWbATg) which describes a tactic of swapping out four spirit pets so you can cycle through their independent spirit mend cooldowns. That doesn't work anymore. It's a shared cooldown. So skip that part.

Comentado por loltrix

To do this solo as a non healing class. make sure the Blistering Zombies explode away from boss because they add a DoT on boss if they are too close.
Then when bandage is off cooldown, use it, important to keep the zombies off because the DoT interrupts the bandage.. :)

Comentado por Hoipolloi

If your a hunter with BM spec, this fight is way faster to use your spirit beast's spirit mend ability on Valithria. =)

Comentado por Keepertje8

Although it only takes two Bandagem Antisséptica to heal her, doing this won't grant you Portais da esperança (10 jogadores) as she will have spawned portals before you can bring her to full health.

Comentado por Tikitak

Field Photographers who can't heal or just wish to pass, start fight, let the dragon die, go into door that opens on opposite side, there will be a elevator to go down to Sindragosa..Onward..

Comentado por Strykerzz

You can now solo this with the Warlords expansion even if you're not a healer. I'm a rogue and healed her with the Antiseptic bandage. Be sure to wait at least 5 seconds after the bandage cooldown expires because if I bandaged again immediately after expiration it sometimes wouldn't work. But if I waited 5 seconds or so it was easy and only took about 5-6 bandages.

Comentado por FailX

When trying to bandage the boss, i get interrupted like 0.5 sec into the channel, for no reason, every time.

Comentado por 1404766

As of 5-20-2015, patch 6.1, the bandage technique is no longer possible for non-healers. Val takes CONSTANT damage throughout the encounter. Her health slowly tics down. Yes, I know about the exploding zombies that put a dot on her. It's not that. With nothing around her, she takes continuous damage, interrupting the bandage, of course.

So. Make some friends. Hopefully one of them can heal. And then /beg them to come help you finish this.

Comentado por 1477274

Hey I've just got to soloing this place and after rescuing Valithria the room got locked from all sides and I had to Hearthstone out. When I came back the room was still locked and I assume I need to go through the room to get to Sindragosa. Halp ;(

Comentado por 1236365

Hi all,

Just Solo'd this on my Tauren warrior (lv100 Ilvl 635).

If you do not want to skip this as a non healing class, I ended up buying a stack of Antiseptic Bandages and it worked like a treat! I used 3 bandages (only because I was hit on the second round of bandage) mechanice are the same just got the bandages and BAM all healed up XD

Comentado por SoundSpark

antiseptic bandage just need to learn first aid.

Comentado por Azadora

For those of you who are like me and manage to pull aggro while trying to walk around the outside of the room, I was able to wait for her to open her portals and once inside, the door in the back was open again. I simply ran through it and the fight reset and I stayed in the elevator and on my way to Sindragosa.

Comentado por MisterK

With a damage only class, here's my solo experience in 6.2 using First Aid to heal her in a 25-player instance:

Required 6-7 Bandagem Antisséptica to fully heal her (had an item level of 694)
Make sure the lone zombies get killed outside of the inner circle, or else they place a ticking acid debuff on her, which WILL interrupt bandaging. By outside the circle, look at the floor, not the magical effect surrounding her.
The usual Recently Bandaged 60 sec debuff still applies
Any attacks landing on you will disrupt your channeling. Keep that in mind when killing the big guy, whose belly bursts to send worms after you only moments later
Ignore the portals she places around the area
Make sure you kill the smaller creatures who channel some attack on her. I had none of them attacking her while bandaging.

As you gather from the bandage debuff, the whole encounter takes around 7-8 minutes.

The Hand of the Prophet Battle Standard had no effect.

Comentado por Jufeng

I used to just slowly bandage this old gal to full on my DK, but ever since 6.2.2 landed, I can NOT get off a full cast of the bandage. I've checked, double-checked, and triple-checked, nothing was attacking me or her (and yes I checked for the dot from the exploding zombies). I dunno what the deal is, but it seems something has broken.

Comentado por Grayy

BM hunters can solo this fight. Get your spirit beast to heal Dreamwalker and keep the mobs off her. No need to go into the portals(this will reset the boss)

1: Keep the mobs off her.
The little ghouls will do a channel on her that ether takes her health away or makes healing do less. Try to shoot them before they start to channel on the boss.

2: Keep the pet's HoT up on her as much as possible.
Spirit Mend has a 30 second CD and you can't dismiss your pet and pull out another spirit beast to cast it again. The heal will still be on cool down.

Tip:
The Dreamwalker is FAT! I found it difficult to target things close to her. Possibly make a targeting marco for the little guys or tab target a lot. I didn't have barrage at the time I soloed her but multi shot and my fire trap did the trick.

Comentado por ErisStrife

If you skip her, being a non healer, will you still be able to get Invincible's Reins from Arthus in H25m?

Comentado por zoolu44

I wondering... once you heal "her" completly a treasure chest appear has she diseappear right?
So it's mean she has the chest in her belly right?
...
....
KILL HER! OPEN HER!

Comentado por squilliam

I don't know if it's just me, but with Val'Sharah and the Emerald Dream/Nightmare coming in Legion, I want to see Valithria's return. Maybe it doesn't have to be some big spectacle but a small cameo that can remind players: "Hey, I saved her from Icecrown Citadel some odd years ago." That would be nice.

Comentado por 1009003

Be sure to tick "Show all enemy debuffs" in Buffs and Debuffs to see dots.

Comentado por DazzlingKati

I wasn't sure if the bandage method worked anymore, so I gave it a try today in 25N, and turns out it still works. Just make sure neither you or Valithria take damage during the channeling.

Comentado por alpha17x

Something in this fight interrupts bandaging constantly. No damage is taken, nothing could be happening; character just magically stops bandaging. Nothing on the combat log indicates a hit occured.I got it eventually but FFS

Comentado por Atheops

Solo, non healer: Have at least 5 Warlords of Draenor bandages on your hotbar.

1. Kill the 4 mobs at the start of the fight.
2. Before other mobs spawn in from the left and right sides, use a bandage on Valithria (the sleeping dragon).
3. You'll have to wait for the bandage cooldown, so kill the adds on the left and right, especially the three geists that spawn in.
4. When your bandage cooldown is done, hit her again with another bandage.

This should be all that's needed to complete the fight. Remember to kill the mobs that spawn to prevent any of them hitting the dragon with a DoT (this will cancel your bandages).

Good Luck!

Comentado por Greyvax

Unsoloable for non-healing classes on heroic. One of her mechanics is she continuously takes damage throughout the fight, preventing you from getting off more than 1 tick of a bandage.

Comentado por BaneOfLane

I think the confusion here is that some non-healers are having success with it, some aren't. And there is a good explanation for this. Heroic has a constant DoT on her.

The solution: if you're running on Heroic, switch to Normal for the fight if you are trying to get the achievement. There is no DoT on Normal mode and the achievement can be earned in either Normal or Heroic. If you're not doing the achievement, then you're probably either going to want to skip it if you're a non-healer class or set it to Normal, anyway. Unless you have a powerful enough spell to get the health going up.

I tried on Heroic with a BM Hunter with a Spirit Beast, wasn't working well. Switched to Normal, got it down nice and easy. You can even switch back to Heroic afterward.

I hope this helps clarify what needs to be done and saves people frustration.

Comentado por Viscerous

Can definitely be soloed at 100 on heroic 25 man as a DK with 6 antiseptic bandages

- Individually use Control Undead on each of the Lich channelers and run them to their nearest corner. Right click their portrait to dismiss them and quickly kill it. Do this for 3/4 of the mobs.

- For the 4th Lich use Control Undead on it then quickly switch targets after the mind control hits and use a bandage on Valithria. The encounter will not actually start, but you can heal Valithria. Each bandage healed roughly 10% for me in 704 PvP gear (not sure if this matters). Continue using bandages every minute till she is 100%. Hitting 100% in my case did not finish the encounter.

- During the time between the 5th and 6th bandage your Control Undead will break on your Lich. Quickly kill the Lich and the fight will actually start, but Valithria will still be at 100% health. A few seconds into the fight and before any enemies come or the DoT starts ticking on Valithria you can use the final 6th bandage and the first tick should complete the fight.

Comentado por Bweeda

I just want to add that since the recent patch First Aids bandages get interupted, a solution I found as a hunter was to kill the 4 Lichs around her and then Feign Death. She disappears and the gate that blocks the elevator to Sindragosa is lifted and allows you to continue on. This allows you to eventually reach The Lich King for those farming for Invincible's Reins.

Comentado por codered81

In Legion, will Pump-Action Bandage Gun be viable?

Comentado por Nari

This can be done 25 man heroic as a Hunter with Spirit Beast's Spirit Mend as only healing. Took 8min and 38s and didn't beat berserker timer, but that didn't matter at all.

Comentado por Tanfana

At Level 100 I was able to simply walk around the outside of the room without anything engaging me. No bandages, no hunter tricks, no healing required.

Comentado por reapersheart

Just did on my 110 BM Hunter, it took 2 heals from my spirit beast to get her to full health, with a 30 sec CD, it's pretty quick, if you're looking to kill her and not just skip.

Comentado por reikatana

Just did this on Heroic 25 man as a Protection Paladin at 110. With just one , the dragon was healed to full. Looks like Paladins can make this thing even easier than before.

Comentado por Ozbert

Just tried this on 10H mode on a level 110 DH with only bandages for heals. As soon as you begin the encounter by aggroing the four liches, Valithria starts taking ticks of damage every couple of seconds, quickly interrupting any attempt to bandage her.

After resetting the fight, I started it again by bandaging her from her far side, without aggroing the liches. This got her to 100% health before the damage ticks started. It didn't complete the encounter, but once the bandage cooldown completed, she was still on 90-95% health, and a second bandage was enough to get her back to 100% before the ticks interrupted it again, which did complete it.

It might help to watch the pattern of damage ticks on her. For me it was like tick,tick,tick,tick,pause,tick,tick,tick,tick... Try to use the bandage in the pause.

Comentado por Kremin

This is now soloable by all classes at 25H, even if bandages bug for you (sometimes they work for me, sometimes they do not)!
Buy a Pump-Action Bandage Gun on the AH, or craft one if you're an engineer.
Enter the encounter with Valithria and shoot a bandage at her. The gun's cooldown is 1 minute. You have to shoot her three times to get her to max. Since the gun is instant-use, you don't need to worry about channeling being interrupted.
Don't worry about the portals, just run around and whack all the adds until your next cooldown.
Enjoy your achievements!

Comentado por Meph12

Guys, if you faced the same trouble like me - impossible to pass Valithria in 10 heroic solo with Lock/Mage etc. I've just found a decision

All you need is Legion's bandages.

1. Start the fight and skip the boss, Kill Sindragosa.
2. Return to Valithria.
3. Keep the distance as far as possible in a range of bandages. Start to heal. She'll recover about 100% but it's not over yet.
4. Keep fighting and clean all trashes. Wait untill CD of bandage ended.
5. You have to clean all mobs before CD ended.
6. As soon as CD ended - heal with the bandage again!
7. PROFIT!

Comentado por Arugadh

For Legion, one Tala de Tramasseda does the job.

Comentado por sakera

At lvl 110 on my Destro Lock running 25H, I cannot find a way to heal her. Silkweave bandages are barely giving her any health. I have been unable to find a Splint or Bandage Gun to test thus far. Guess I will just hope that my other cloth classes can manage to get the transmogs.

Comentado por Rossmallo

Soloed in patch 7.1 on 29/10/16 as a mage - I have finally found a way to get past the stupid bandage heal tick glitch

When you run in- DO NOT attack the enemies channelling power into her. Instead, just run right in, and bandage her. The enemies will attack you but will be so inaccurate they likely will not hit you. Once her health has hit max, as the enemies are still alive, the encounter won't end, but once you kill these four enemies off, you can bandage her again when Recently Bandaged goes away, and even if it glitches, one or two heal ticks should max her out and end the encounter.

For some reason, when I did this, I actually got Portal Jockey, despite never touching a portal. Oh well, considering it took me 10 attempts to get it to work, I'm taking this as the wages of my effort.

Comentado por Lostelf

Death Knights! If captain Arnath died at the hands of the Val'kyr just before this boss, use control undead on him. He has a full range of healing spells you can use on the dragon.

I only found out about this AFTER i'd bandaged the damn dragon, but his heals seem strong enough to do it.

Comentado por Archen

With the new pets being added to LK raids I figured there would be some folks running around killing bosses and hit a brick wall with her. I'm not sure when but apparently bandages were nerfed for this as the cast bar breaks immediately. However engineering got our fix for us, the Arma de Curativos de Recarga Ativa can heal her to full in 3 shots. It heals in one shot and has a cooldown on the item itself (one minute each use) instead of a debuff on the affected. Yay engineering.

Comentado por Thalloren

As of patch 7.1.0, any class can easily heal Valithria to full with a single Silkweave Bandage. Takes a few seconds.

Comentado por pylonn

Just tried 25 Heroic on my DK and bandaging doesn't work. I get interrupted by something. There's nothing around, no mobs attacking her or me and I get interrupted. Then it's that stupid 1 min cooldown.
For now, I'm labeling this unsoloable unless you have a healer or heal spells.

Comentado por slelle

You can use the Pump-action Bandage Gun to heal Valithria to full health on 25 Man Heroic using 3 charges. You should have the encounter finished in just over 4 minutes. I did this on my warlock a couple of days ago.

Comentado por Mydge

No heals? No worries!

Just whip out a bandage and Valithria will be right as reign!

*finished healing her to full with two ticks of Silkweave Bandage.

Comentado por Codeguard

Updated for WoW 8.1.5

25 heroic solo as any class:

You'll need: Bandagem do Mar Profundo - you just need one, but better have a few more just in case.
Arma de Curativos de Recarga Ativa - has 20 charges

Get in range for Bandagem do Mar Profundo without aggroing liches
Use Bandagem do Mar Profundo and keep channeling to the end. Boss will be 99% healed now.
Use Arma de Curativos de Recarga Ativa
Done!

Comentado por Tarasmine

Was soloing this the other day on a BM hunter and realized I don't have anything to heal. Totally forgot about my pets. If you have a spirit beast, you can easily heal her.

Comentado por Glatteis

Have to switch to 25 normal so the bandage can heal her to 100%, on heroic it heal her to 75%, and the damage than she take interrupts the heal, so..., Switch from heroic to normal just for her

Comentado por MaxWilder

At 110 ilvl 877 Warlock, used a single Silkweave Bandage on my second try, nearly an instant win.

(My first go around I forgot you had to heal her, since it's been a while.)

edit: This did *not* work on heroic. For some unknown reason, the bandaging simply stops after a second or two, and other mechanics drain her life after five minutes or so, despite instantly killing all enemy mobs. Not fun.

Pump-Action Bandage Gun worked beautifully. I'll be taking that for all my future runs.

Comentado por Drahkir

I had trouble get the last little bit of health with my Antiseptic Bandage on my Warlock. My bandage cast would get interrupted even with no enemies around. Then I noticed that right clicking it rapidly helped, strangely enough.

Comentado por Boboloboloo

The big question on this encounter has always been how to complete it solo without a healer. Originally, bandages would work, but with the new mechanics of the DoTs applied to her and (On heroic) her natural health decay, this is no longer an option. But, my theory is that a blood DK should be able to use Marca de Sangue to heal her to completion, assuming the dps of the adds is less than 3% of her health between the target's attacks. I'll probably test this soon, but any thoughts before that?

Edit: I think Arma de Curativos de Recarga Ativa would actually be a more reliable option since it can be used by all classes... sadly, you have to either learn engineering or hope to find one in the AH

Comentado por projecteulogy

Confirmed. 1 Silkweave Bandage is all it takes to heal Val to full. I didn't have max first aid either.

Comentado por Johnnyboi321

As of patch 7.2.5, Despite what people said about not being able to use a bandage for this boss in heroic mode due to the DoT, I pulled it off with a 110 Rogue.

Here's how I did it,

1. Open the fight with silkweave bandage, (strongest bandage available is recommended)
2. Wait for the 1 minute bandage debuff applied to the boss.
3. Make sure that all mobs are cleared and nothing is touching the dragon.
4. (Here's the hard part) If you look closely at her health bar, you can see it decreasing in a pattern with a short pause. The small pause window is your time to bandage. It may take a couple tries but if you click bandage as the pause is beginning, one tick of bandage is enough to heal her to full, granted that she isn't low enough due to failed attempts.

Every time I failed my second bandage I just vanished/jumped into the portal to reset the boss and retry.

Good luck!

Comentado por JTHM773

As of 7.3 (I dont know if they changed anything) But I read some of these comments for tips, and none of them worked for me. Silkweave Bandage didnt heal enough, and "timing" the dot she has to use a 2nd bandage didnt work either. If you have the recipe for the Silkweave Splint (5 shal'dorei silk + 1 leystone ore) heals almost twice as much as the regular silkweave bandage. I tried that last week with just the Splint, healed her up to 100%, but it didnt register as a "win" ...instead she ticked back down to 99%, and kept going down.

This week I brought backup. I used the Silkweave Splint + The Pump-Action Bandage Gun. Got her to 100% with the splint, and just shot her with the bandage gun right after. and BOOM it worked. Idk if its a 100% success rate. But, yay for another option out there for non-healers to do lol

TLDR = Silkweave SPLINT + Pump-Action Bandage Gun = Worked for me

Comentado por Meera

How I solo'd this boss in 25 man as a 110 Rogue that is engineer:

Build a Arma de Curativos de Recarga Ativa and keep it at hand in your action bar.
Do not use Bandagem de Tramasseda to heal the boss, use instead Tala de Tramasseda since it heals 550864 dmg points.

Start the fight without killing any of the initial adds. They will focus on you first, but they will not be able to dmg you at all and the boss, so you will be able to fully heal with Tala de Tramasseda. Once this is done, wait for the first round of adds. Kill them instantly, and use the Arma de Curativos de Recarga Ativa to reach 100%. It may happen you reach that, keep fighting adds, and then use Tala de Tramasseda again once the CD is off. You may be forced too to use another Pistol on the boss.

Pistol is 30 seconds CD, so It's better than the bandages.

Have a good hunt!

Comentado por spudz76

She has been buffed as of 7.3.5 so non healer classes will require a lot of patience with bandages.
I've been farming the Drudge Ghoul and so far I've only been in on 25N, before 7.3.5 she only required two shots from the Pump Action Bandage Gun, today I needed to use 7.
I will be looking at the Splint method later

Comentado por Sorrowmoore

Just cleared it using a DK, the bandage tick will always interrupted after 1 or even before a tick, probably because a Fiery Skeleton/Risen Archmage/SplinterZombie/Abomination is targeting you which makes you go into a Combat Mode.Cleared it using bunch of Silkweave Splint, and 11 charge of Pump-Action Bandage Gun. Make sure there's no mob spawning before applying bandage.

Comentado por KingLich1

Trust to blizzard to make all the stupid choices..

Comentado por OptikRise

So, if you don't need anything from her, just jump into one of the portals she spawns and the door to Sindragosa will open. You'll "wipe" and won't get to loot anything but at least you can get on with your life.

Comentado por calc697

I've completed this (solo) as a rogue using only bandages on normal but have yet to figure it out on heroic. So far I've definitely found that starting the encounter from far behind her without attacking her attackers gives a significant starting bonus. So basically, sneak around them and make some silkweave bandages, and use one on her from behind. The enemies will come towards you but you get her to about 80% hp this way. If anyone can figure out 100% on heroic, I'd love to hear about it.

Comentado por Tomcatbear

10m heroic soloing on my dk while streaming, said you can bandage this because i do it everytime i come through here. bandaged her to 96% and couldn't apply anymore to her. had to through the portal to reset and not get the one mog drop i need from here. suck my pillar my of frost blizzard.

(because no one wants to ask their friends to come heal one boss in 10 man normal that a bandage should take care of)

Comentado por Dust

As of the prepatch leading into BFA, Valithria can no longer be solo healed in 25H using the pump-action bandage gun.

Comentado por UndeadWarlock

So this is still 100% doable in 8.0 as a non-healer but it's definitely more frustrating. Just finished it on my Mage.

You'll need the ever-useful Pump Action Bandaid Gun as well as Silkweave Splints and some on-use healing trinkets of your choice. I used Bauble of True Blood and Ankh of Life. Bauble drops from Lanathel and Ankh is a vanilla world drop but there are usually a few on the AH. These trinkets may not seem like they heal for much but here's the good part, the power boost given to players when soloing trivial content also applies to healing. As you can see on my Skada, Ankh of Light, a pathetic trinket that says it heals for 32 every five minutes, still did 46k healing!

Start the fight out as usual, run up to Valithria without aggroing the skeletons and immediately bandaid her for as long as you can. Once that's done, hit the gun and your trinkets. For me, this got her up to around 80-90% immediately. (Far enough for her to trigger her "Almost there!" dialogue at least.) After that, it's pretty obvious what to do. Bandaid her on CD, even if you only get one tick, use the gun and trinkets on CD. Something important to note is that you should kill the zombie mobs away from her as they explode when they die. The lich and skeletal caster mobs should also die ASAP as they have aoe damage they can hit her with. The geists aren't that worrying as long as they're dead whenever you use a bandaid, the gun or trinkets. Not sure if the Aboms can do anything nasty to her, it's been many years since I cared about this fight so if there is anything they can do, I just killed them before they could anyways.

This still takes a long time, around 7 minutes, but still very doable! It would likely go much, much faster if you could get a powerful healing trinket such as The Deciever's Grand Design, which I assume would make this fight trivial. Don't think it's possible to get now but something to keep in mind in the future when we can possibly solo ToS.

Somethings I didn't try: trinkets that put a barrier on her, would that stop the bandage from being interrupted from the constant damage on her? Vial of the Sunwell used to proc off the old Herbalism bonus Lifeblood, meaning you could gain stacks as a Mage. Could it proc off of other self-healing spells/abilities, such as Victory Rush or Crimson Vial? Potting should work for this fight, since the trinkets (I think) and possibly the bandage gun scale with stats.

Things I did try that didn't work: Mark of the Ancient Priestess, doesn't heal her since she's not in the party or raid I guess.

I think it would be great if we could get a list going of gear, items and enchants that can be used to heal without requiring someone to be able to fill that role.

Comentado por foodservice

Supereasy as a BM hunter.

1. Get a pet with Spirit Mend Recomposição Espiritual

2. Cast Spirit Mend on Valithria Dreamwalker

Thats it.

Comentado por Mattly99

If you don't have a healing character and you don't care about the transmogs or anything she can drop, you can completely skip it. A minute after the fight starts, the dream portals will spawn. Click on one of them, the fight will reset and the doors will open that will lead down to the elevator with Sindragosa. I was able to get to the Lich King afterwards while still having the timer up for Valithria. If you're after that mount, happy farming and good luck!

Comentado por Ovahealz

After the item squish the bandage + pump-action bandage gun combo doesn't top her off. I tried for hours with different combinations and doing everything and I was unable to heal her back to full. Im a warlock so I can't really do much other than that.

I guess it's impossible now for non healer classes or non BM hunters.

Comentado por Huggercube

At 120 a single tidespray linen bandage is enough to heal her to full with a couple of tics on 10 man normal

Comentado por mikeormichael

If you're soloing and stuck getting to get past Sister Svalana, you must kill the trash up to Sister slowly, making sure Crok NPC makes there with you.

she'll fly down and engage if you don't kill things so fast...so its a gauntlet, but a slow gauntlet :)

Comentado por Kanariya

Non-healing classes can use Matriz de Laser from Uldir Azerite gear to heal her. Wearing two normal pieces restored 10%-20% of her health per proc on 25-man Heroic mode.

Comentado por Fawcan

If you're doing the bandage strategy.

Only tested this in 10 man HC

Before starting the encounter go at the back of the boss and start channeling a Deep Sea Bandage and it will fully heal her at around 3 ticks, don't kill the adds that are in front of the boss.
Can get them from AH really cheap or make as a Tailor.

Comentado por marig0ld

Deep Sea Bandage will work on 25 man normal for those only after appearances. Took two bandages.

Comentado por Sparrows413

A Bandagem do Mar Profundo will work just fine on 25H as well. As others have said, don't bother killing the four mobs that surround her - just get close, use the bandage, and hope it does the full whammy. If you kill the mobs and 'officially' start the encounter, the bandage will be cancelled whenever more mobs spawn and it won't work.

Comentado por lpfraser

I can confirm that as of 8.2 you can beat this boss via the azerite essence Concentrated Flame which is the first one you receive. It took me roughly a minute and it took me three casts to fully heal the boss on 25H.

Use it while you can boys!

Comentado por Grammie

First I just want to state that I did not know the object was to heal this dragon when I went in...second it took me three days BECAUSE Blizzard decided to do away with the healing profession so I could no longer make my own bandages and had to go stand on street corners begging strangers for them...25 man normal was how I went in...found some deep sea bandages this morning (so excited was I)...I can confirm it took two bandages...and no you can not just stand in the back and heal her...at least not on your own...because as soon as you start to heal her you start the fight...but it truly only takes two bandages...solo Gnome Warrior Level 113...no longer a medic...anyone able to make bandages should be making these and selling them in AH...you can make a mint....

Comentado por Lapomythar

...Just 1 hit of Concentrated Flame...
...HC 25...

Comentado por Kammeal

As of 8.2 just use your neck essence The Crucible of Flames (rank2) - The initial healing healed her to around 70% in my case (25 heroic) but the HoT effect instantly topped her to 100%. Easy as can be.

Cheers!

Comentado por vananyask1

Credit to Kammeal for this idea
You can use the Crucible of Flame essence on any spec, and even at rank 1 if you stack it to 2 on yourself before starting the encounter, it will instantly heal the boss to full. No messing around with bandages anymore!

Comentado por Gasmbabj

For BM hunters
Call your pet with Spirit Mend exotic ability...

Comentado por Krisendo

You can use the azurite power Concentrated Flame to heal him. For classes with no healing this beats him.

Comentado por Arcaidia

For anyone wanting to down this boss for the loot or whatever reason, it is now cleared by any class, no bandages and providing you are 120.

With the Heart of Azeroth equipped with the essence "The Crucible of Flame (rank 3)"

I was able to target Valithria and use the "Consecrated Flame" spell twice which healed her to full.

Unsure if this would work on lower ranks.

The first spell raised her from 49% to 79% health. Scaling might be a big factor between the ranks.

Hope this helps!

Comentado por Zelldor

"if you have the heart of azeroth's concentrated flame you can actually do the portal jockey achievement without a healer. just pop that on the dragon and you are set" by pixiedragon.

The Heart of Azeroth essence "The Crucible of Flame" Concentrated Flame works for healing the dragon. Frostweave bandages are not that great for healing, and deep sea bandages don't work at all.

I found this tip about the Heart of Azeroth essence in a comment from this Youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W3-SjH66oQ, also the video is helpful for explaining how to do all the achievements in a quick straight forward fashion.

Comentado por WhyNotKyle

as of 2/19/20:

Bag of Tricks racial for the Vulpera work to heal her. took 2 at level 114

Comentado por hjp426

For non-healer, Draenei classes, it would appear that Gift of the Naaru no longer works. :(

Comentado por PersonalProxy

Since I have seen absolutely no one else mentioned this:

YOU CAN SKIP THIS FIGHT.

SOLO:
If for whatever reason you can't manage to walk around the enemies without aggroing them... simply engage, wait until the little red cloud portals appear and enter it.
This will reset the encounter (enemies and dragon will disappear) and you can just walk to the elevator for the next boss.

GROUPED:
You'll need to all enter the portals at the same time, or get better at avoiding detection.

Enjoy not having to struggle to heal this boss on non-healing classes.

Comentado por AlloutEpic

I just tested out a few super easy ways for any class to heal Valithria Dreamwalker on any difficulty, notably without the usage of the Heart of Azeroth.

I tested this on my 120 Warrior who has no healing abilities at all, which leads me to conclude that this method works on any class; and the only real requirement is that your character has to be at least level 101.

Simply use one of these items that can be bought off the AH, or created using their respective professions.

- Deep Sea Bandage (Requires 50 levels of BFA Tailoring)
Simply using 1 of these on 25man Normal will almost fully heal her! I'm assuming that her heroic HP is higher, so I'm guessing 2-4 of these bandages will do the trick on that difficulty.
- Tidespray Linen Bandage (Requires 1 level of BFA Tailoring)
These might be less costly (both gold wise and material wise) but will obviously take more time as it heals less than the deep sea bandage. I had some of these in my inventory but didn't need to use them. On 25man Heroic I'd guess you'd need 5-10 of them at least.
- Pump-Action Bandage Gun (Requires Legion Engineering)
These are useful to use in between bandages to heal a few percentage points, but it isn't really viable as a standalone item (unless you want to spend years doing this fight).

I should note that the Heart of Azeroth method is also completely viable, but due to the fact that many characters don't have essences unlocked, I wanted to test out a more universal method of soloing this notorious boss!

Hope this post helps!

Comentado por Tostada

Equip Crucible of Flame, cast on her, and end of encounter.

Comentado por Bolerro619

As of 8.3.7, you can solo this once you have the Concentrated Flame on your Coração de Azeroth. Two heals using this while targetting Valithria Andassonho works.

Before leaving a rest area, make sure to set your HoA with Concentrated Flame as the primary power. You can't swap powers while not in a rest area.

Comentado por Zarilla

UPDATE: PreLaunch Event - 11/20

I was just looking for gear to disenchant and decided to run this raid by myself - Level 50 - Beast Mastery.

First, I've never done this dungeon so I had no clue what to do. I killed everything a couple of times and she disappeared and DBM read it as a complete wipe.

Came to Wowhead to look for answers. I saw the comment about bringing bandages. The Deep Sea Bandages were not working as fast as I would like.

I know that Azerite is changing/going away in the near future but... I finally decided to heal her with my Concentrated Flame - Rank 4. She up with the second cast and since I did this on Heroic - 25 man raid (My earlier raid had broken up and I just never left it.) the big vault dropped and I received the Leggings of Dying Candles, Devium's Eternally Cold Ring, and Bracers of Eternal Dreaming. (I'll come back and link those later.

It looks like great gear, but I already have most of my N'oth items.

Good luck!

Comentado por Ehayen

FYI if you have the Concentrated Flame ability you can just fire that twice at the dragon to finish the scenario.

Comentado por iIurke

I was able to beat the Valithria Dreamwalker encounter on 25 man Heroic using a new trinket from Shadowlands: Brimming Ember Shard. The trinket I used was Item LVL 146.

Comentado por Vasiliski

used in Azerite neckalce can help DPSs to solo boss

Comentado por agressiv

For 9.0.2 - A level 60 with a single Bandagem de Tecido Amortalhado Pesada bandage works by itself.

Comentado por Banditten6000

Ive never been able to solo this as a mage BUT i just did it.. Easy with this trinket Can finally get the last transmog i need.

Comentado por EarthenRastlin

Tested as of 4/18/21 patch 9.0.5

The azerite neck with crucible of flame (rank 1) is sufficient enough to heal her with both charges at level 60. Any class can do this (I happened to be on a DK when I did it). Makes it a simple way without using a whole bunch of bandages to solo her on 25 heroic.

Comentado por Ajfree

Heroic 25man, Vulpera can use Bag of Tricks to heal. Took 2 uses on my level 50

Comentado por Fluclo

9.0.5, after all the comments here on soloing with a DPS spec, went in with a hundred bandages and a bandage gun. Applied one Bandagem de Tecido Amortalhado Pesada, and 6 seconds later, the encounter was successfully over. I think I went overboard with the preparation!

Comentado por zynnlol

As of Shadowlands. You can just buy Bandagem de Tecido Amortalhado Pesada from AH, it super cheap.

Just walk up the boss, and use Bandagem de Tecido Amortalhado Pesada and done, collect the loot.
PS Sometime the boss HP will stuck at 100% in that case 1. Wait for the cooldown or 2. you might have to use Arma de Curativos de Recarga Ativa to finish it off

Done !

Comentado por Dorimane

Has anybody been able to complete this with bandages since DF Pre-Patch? Mine finished the bandage, but it doesn't complete the encounter once the bandage is complete.

Comentado por Apolyptica

As of Dragonflight you can still use bandages to heal her up but you will also need a healing trinket or item such as Bugiganga de Verossangue
A proper healing spell seems to be required (once again) for it to register correctly when close to max health.
I've used Bauble of True Blood with my Death Knight on both 25N and 25H and it successfully completed the encounter.

Comentado por Gosuphobia

You can still use Arma de Curativos de Recarga Ativa to beat this, works in heroic 25, didn't test it in others. It takes a little while and it took about 11 charges. Or you can use bandages to get to 100% and finish it off with the badage gun.

Comentado por HrdScp

You definetely ARE able to heal through it with just a bandage in HC, but it's extremely hard/unreliable. It's probably bugged. I killed the 4 guards as fast as possible and immediately clicked a Wildercloth Bandage and it finished the encounter. I tried the same way 3 more times but wasn't able to replicate it.

Comentado por erro3

Healing tip for non-healing classes: Use Concentrated Flame from The Crucible of Flame on the Heart of Azeroth necklace. I was using Rank 1 and had not bothered to unlock other slots. I'm sure a higher power rank would help make the fight quicker, but it is not necessary.

I decided to dust off a lvl 50 warrior alt and run ICC tonight for transmog and completely forgot about needing a heal for this fight. I tried bandages but they were giving me some trouble with the cast being interrupted. Fortunately, I noticed Concentrated Flame on my bar and it worked! Just target Valithria and cast it. It will take several casts to heal her to full so just keep killing adds. Thankfully the CD is a short 30 seconds. It did take what felt like 45-60 seconds for the fight to register as being complete after her health bar was full - I just kept healing her and killing adds until it completed.

Comentado por pawpurr

As a followup to this raid encounter - Valithria Dreamwalker survived and eventually made it to the Dragon Isles. She is currently residing in the Shady Sanctuary, near the Emerald Dream portal there. I thought that was a really nice touch, so I wanted to share it here. Take that cosmetic farmers, you got some surprise lore in your day!

Comentado por jamerdean

The Lifeflame Ampuole works great!

Comentado por Tarugala

10.0 and beyond => Non-healing classes, just use a Wildercloth Bandage, they're like 1 gold on the AH! She heals to full instantly <3

Comentado por Lausten

So the trick to this after 10.5 seems to be pulling the 4 mobs arround her instead of just slapping a bandage on her. If you slap the bandage on her right away the encounter seems to bug out.

Comentado por Mandiblez

I come as a warrior doing the Shadowfrost Splinter grind.

DO NOT ENGAGE HER WITH SECOND WIND IF YOU'RE HEALING HER WITH BANDAGES!

Second Wind healing ticks interrupt applying the bandage so spec out of it or go into another specilization.
Save yourself the irritation!

Comentado por tauceti442

Dismissing my pet helped me after several tries with the bandage,
It took me 2 bandages for it to trigger, the first one looked like it fully healed,
Overall it took me 13 bandages to figure out how it worked.
Bring spares just incase!

Comentado por Moin

Solo, but not a healer? Just use Coração de Azeroth's essence The Crucible of Flame on her.

Comentado por SpeedyD34D

For your information if you must heal her with bandages, keep in mind that she CANNOT has Estouro Ácido debuff while healing up to 100% otherwise she will not trigger encounter completed with this debuff active.

Comentado por EasyStep

I had a strange issue with the encounter not completing and my bandages being interrupted very quickly.

What I did was bring multiple bandages. Kill the initial adds. And then spam the bandages every time it was interrupted. This worked.

Comentado por Dekky

In Dragonflight, just pick up a few Heavy Shrouded Cloth Bandages. On my level 70 DK in ICC the heal is 17,159. One bandage in 10 man normal heals her within 2 seconds, if that.

Comentado por foxboy

You can heal her with Bandagem Grossa de Friotrama as it doesn't seem to be affected by the bug that interrupts later expansion bandages. It's affected by legacy buffs so depending on your level it will heal much more than the amount stated on the tooltip. She also doesn't seem to get the bandage debuff so you can just spam them on her as soon as you deal with the enemies.

Especially useful if you're below 50 and can't unlock Azerite Essences, or just can't be bothered doing that.

Comentado por xLunacyx

I tried to use a wildercloth bandage in dragonflight, it got cancelled instantly and left a recently bandaged debuff and didn't heal anything at all. (only heals for 8k if it does heal)
Hearthed and came back and used a heavy shrouded cloth bandage and it healed her to full in 3 seconds uninterrupted, but it did not finish the fight.
Managed to spam some more bandages to finish the fight.

Comentado por octolingkiera

if you're a beast master hunter with a spirit beast pet you can also use Recomposição Espiritual to heal her, so long as you target her and manually use the spell yourself

Comentado por Nogago

For non healing classes: If none of the bndages work, jump into any of the portals she spawns,
this will end the fight without any loot and you can proceed to clear out the rest of the raid, and kill Lich King.

Comentado por jujuness

Just solo'd with Warlock using one (1) Wildercloth Bandage (Heals 4,671 damage over 8 sec).
1/18/2024

Comentado por PunishedLeeches

Warrior here. 1 Frostweave bandage healed her to full and finished the fight on heroic 10 man.

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