When MU Grom killed Mannoroth, the effect of drinking the blood lifted from the orcs. If Mannoroth was killed by the Iron Horde, why would the blood that Gul'dan offered do anything?Demons : how do they work
archimonde is just a draenei twisted given powers by sargeras, so that makes him basically immortal ? they might call him a demon now, but what exactly is a demon, if i send my character to the twisted nether, is he now a demon ?also, if there is only 1 twisted nether, but millions of alternate realities, i say we carry out garroshs and the bronze dragons original plan, lets go to these other realities, and make a massive alliance army, we would then outnumber the burning legion, since they only have 1 legion, and we can get unlimited copies of ourselves, we can do a pyramid scheme, head to 1 alternate recruit, then me and that recruit go to different ones, it will be an exponential increase in copies of me, then we can all meet back in our azeroth, and smash our way into the twisted nether, all 50 billion of me.
I will go with the Nether scenario! In Mannoroth's case i believe that his soul wasn't returned to the Nether due his blood is still around, so the soul might be stucked or even imprisoned with Gul'dan!
Oh new toys, just want we all asked for!
I really don't care what blizzard will throw at us. But seriously, what kind of answer Alex Afrasiab was giving? This is why I've stopped tweeting blizzard dev/officials.
You act as if YOU know how to design, develop, run and market an MMO.
If demons can't be "truly" killed outside of the Twisting Nether, then what is the point of fighting them outside of it? Archimonde can just be summoned back, over and over again. Then there is no point to WC3, and no point in 6.2. Illidan can come too, because he is a demon ever since he consumed the powers of the skull of Gul'dan. Was Gul'dan a demon like him then? Can he return as well, or is his "essence" claimed by Illidan? My head hurts."It's like a poetry, it rhymes."
Johnny Duggan: is Hellfire Archimonde from the AU or MU?Alex Afrasiabi: I dont knowJohnny Duggan: could you explain how demons work then? There's been a lot of changes and revelations since TBC.Alex Afrasiabi: We cant really explain it.Johnny Duggan: right but we're asking if Archimonde this patch is from the AU or the one we killed at Hyjal.Alex Afrasiabi: We dont know.Johnny Duggan: because previous tweets have stated that we're dealing with an alternate universe legion.Alex Afrasiabi: Really? &*!@! Erm...Johnny Duggan: does this extend to Old Gods? As in there's only one Cthun, Yogg, N-Zoth, etc.Alex Afrasiabi: No idea.Johnny Duggan: and corrupted in more than one of these universes? What happened with the "extra" demonic copies? (c)Alex Afrasiabi: No idea.Pretty much this.
Main problem here is that in the last phase of the fight We actually go to the Twisting Nether and kill Archie there... but this is 35 years in the past so that would nulify his death at hyjal. Maybe that's the premise of the next xpac? The return of Teldrassil?
To the comment before : yes, warlocks' minions can be summoned again and again...but what if that's the answer? what if they accepted to be tied to a warlock to gain immortality in spite of being lesser demons? Probably warlocks are so deeply interwined with the twisting nether (the nether now "whispers" them new spells as they level) that lesser demons look forward to being enslaved in order not to die in the numerous battles of the burning legion...after all demons value their lives above all else (look at "The battle for undercity" lore)
Nobbel should be WoW's creative director IMO.
As far as I see it, there is one Twisting Nether and one Archimonde. For him, this is -after- Mount Hyjal. Whether he travels to the past, future, or what for us is an alternate timeline, for him, this is the second time he's met us, as on the same token it's the second time we've run into him.You've got to stop thinking in linear time. Yes, for Draenor, this is thirty-some years in the past of the Azeroth/Outland timeline, but for us and Archimonde (if there is -one- Archimonde) this is what we're currently experiencing. It's not difficult when you look at it from this perspective, and it's not some BS that Blizzard is trying to confuse us with. Then again, as far as Wowhead commenters are concerned, there is a massive vocal minority that is continuously looking to check off another square in "Blizzard is out to get us" Bingo. ;)And as for the Mannoroth issue, I agree with previous commenters that posited that as Gul'dan still holds an active link to him on the physical plane (his blood), then his corpse is still lying around somewhere.
Even from a non-linear stand point there can not be just one Archimonde, because there is more than one Velen. Unless you want to believe that the only fixed moment in this multiverses timeline is Archimonde, and Kil'jaden joining the legion and they just become one entity throughout all timelines, which in itself makes little sense. I mean is it the same legion trying to conquer every separate existence? How many times would the same Archimonde be defeated at the world tree before the legion learned that something different needed to be done. I've never been in the "Blizz is out to get us camp", but IF this tweet was the guy being serious and not just messing with the fan base it leaves to many unanswered questions.
So I guess that confirms the idea that we're SoL when it comes to beating Burning Legion forces...Also I should add a reminder to do that DMF stuff.