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Comentado por foxbuster

Primeira frase do livro:

"O conceito de estratégia, em grego strateegia, em latim strategi, em francês stratégie, em inglês strategy, em alemão strategie, em italiano strategia, em espanhol estrategia..."

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Comentado por tmptfate

This is one of the items that your Guia do Aventureiro de Negraluna can help you find. Guia do Aventureiro de Negraluna is from Selina Severo, who resides in the first tent on your left as you enter the Darkmoon Faire.

Turning in this item is part of 2 achievements: Especialista em Masmorras de Negraluna and Espoliador de Negraluna

The artifacts needed for Especialista em Masmorras de Negraluna are:

Collecting all the Darkmoon Faire Artifacts rewards Espoliador de Negraluna. The full list of Darkmoon Faire Artifacts is:

As stated by Blizzard (Source):

The Darkmoon Faire Field Guide

It’s your passport to riches, my friend. Y’see, we need a few things -- just some junk, nothing valuable to a big hero like you. We call ‘em Darkmoon Artifacts, and there’s all different kinds to be found all over Azeroth. The Darkmoon Field Guide helps you discover artifacts while you’re explorin’ dungeons, slayin’ monsters, and fightin’ in Battlegrounds. Without a guide, you’d never notice ‘em, and it’ll help keep you focused on the stuff we want. Whether you just reached level 10, or you’ve crushed the biggest baddies in the land, we need somethin’ from nearly everybody. You won’t have to go too far out of your way to get ‘em and each month you’ll get a new opportunity to seek out an Artifact for us. What do you get out of the deal? Don’t you worry, you’ll get your cut. When you bring a Darkmoon Artifact back to us, you’ll get valuable experience (it builds character, you know!), earn a better reputation, and possibly earn precious Darkmoon Faire Prize Tickets too!

Comentado por 668582

Please keep in mind that the quest is not repeatable during one DMF festival. After you complete the quest you cannot get it for the second time, as it states when you use an item for the second time "You have already completed this quest". In other words - you can do the quest once every month.
Now, to all the naysayers, Blizzard has confirmed that these quests are to be repeated each month. Source
They have also stated that the quest drops that happen in the dungeons/raids/BG’s happen all the time, even if the faire isn’t in town. Source

Comentado por Lolus

You can't get it from normals, so far I've never seen it on my realm, the only one I'm missing. Husam and Ulthok didn't drop it but I got 3 different drops from Azshara

Comentado por NelleRavencrest

Known drops:

I suspect the drop rate could be as low as 5% on the bosses above. I farmed around 15 instances in total with main and alts before I saw the first drop. All those 15 instances included at least ONE of the previously confirmed drop spots. Feel free to add a reply if you find more places, so we can get a better picture of where it drop, and I will add it to the list !

Comentado por sandyra

What is this? This item Um Tratado sobre Estratégia starts the quest O mestre estrategista that you can turn in with the Darkmoon Faire whenever it is in town.

How do I get it? In order to be eligible to loot this, you must have the Guia do Aventureiro de Negraluna in your ~~bags~~ inventory - which can be obtained in one of two ways:

Receive it as a reward from Gelvas Grimegate after completing The Darkmoon Faire for Alliance or The Darkmoon Faire for Horde.
Receive it from Selina Dourman just by talking to her, she stands at the first tent on the left-side of the entrance to the Darkmoon Faire.
Note: if you have The Darkmoon Faire quest in your quest log, Selina will not offer to give you the guide - you will either need to drop the quest and speak to her again or simply hand in at which point you get the guide anyway.

Where do I get it? This particular item ONLY drops from Cataclysm & Pandaren heroic 5-man dungeon bosses (it seems to drop from bosses with military titles). The drop rates are also very low -- though if you RNG graces you favorably you may see one dropped by any of the following (drop locations will be updated as they are confirmed) listed in alphabetical order by boss name:

~~Asaad -- Vortex Pinnacle~~ no longer listed in drop tables
Arcebispo Benedictus -- Hora do Crepúsculo
Ascendant Lord Obsidius -- Blackrock Caverns
Irmão Korloff -- Monastério Escarlate
Comandante Ri'mok -- Portal do Sol Poente
Commander Springvale -- Shadowfang Keep
Commander Ulthok -- Throne of the Tides
~~Daakara -- Zul'Aman~~ no longer listed in drop tables
Umbromestre Gandling -- Scolomântia
General Pa'valak -- Cerco ao Templo Niuzao
General Umbriss -- Grim Batol
Grand Vizier Ertan -- The Vortex Pinnacle
High Prophet Barim -- Lost City of Tol'vir
~~Jin'do the Godbreaker -- Zul'Gurub~~ no longer listed in drop tables
~~Lady Naz'jar -- Trono das Marés~~ never confirmed
~~Mannoroth -- Nascente da Eternidade~~ no longer listed in drop tables
~~Murozond -- Fim dos Tempos~~ no longer listed in drop tables
Saltallus -- Cervejaria Malte do Trovão
Rajh -- Halls of Origination
Sha da Dúvida -- Templo da Serpente de Jade
Slabhide -- The Stonecore
Xin, o Mestre de Armas -- Palácio Mogu'shan

Why do I want it? There are several reasons that you may want this item:

Receive 15 Darkmoon Prize Tickets upon handing it in - these tickets allow you to purchase mounts, pets and other collectibles whenever the Darkmoon Faire is on.
Receive 250 reputation (or more depending on your racial/guild bonuses etc) with the Darkmoon Faire - great for anyone who is either a rep junkie or is working towards The Insane title awarded by the Dormir não dá reputação achievement.
Having completed the quest that this item starts will count towards the achievement Espoliador de Negraluna.
Gold gold GOLD - since this item isn't BoP (bind on pickup), it is tradable and sellable via the auction house. If you don't care about the above three points, then you can profiteer from someone who does!

What else do I need to know?

The quest can only be turned in once per Darkmoon Faire. You can certainly collect more of these, however if you've turned in for the current faire, you'll have to wait till it's next in town.
This seems to be the hardest of all the DMF quest items to obtain, primarily given that it only drops from end game heroic dungeons. But for the most part, just pray to the RNG gods and eventually they may answer you.
This item can be looted anytime - that is to say, the Darkmoon Faire does not have to be currently on in order for you to be able to find these puppies.

What other Darkmoon Faire drops are there?

Diário do Aventureiro Morto -> O diário capturado = 5 x Darkmoon Prize Tickets
Estandarte dos Caídos -> Um estandarte capturado = 5 x Darkmoon Prize Tickets
Insígnia Capturada -> A insígnia do inimigo = 5 x Darkmoon Prize Tickets
Cristal Imbuído -> Um cristal peculiar = 10 x Darkmoon Prize Tickets
Ovo Monstruoso -> Um ovo exótico = 10 x Darkmoon Prize Tickets
Grimório Misterioso -> Um grimório intrigante = 10 x Darkmoon Prize Tickets
Arma Ornamentada -> Uma arma magnífica = 10 x Darkmoon Prize Tickets
Runas do Adivinho -> Instrumentos de adivinhação = 10 x Darkmoon Prize Tickets

Will frequently amend and extend this post as users request it or as I learn more.

Comentado por Synrithh

Can everybody in the group loot one for themselves? Or can just 1 in the grp get it?

Comentado por Vaugn

When this item drops, does it get just one player the token or does the entire party get one?

Comentado por arkensis

A particular trend that I'm seeing regarding this item is that a lot of individuals are leaving their group following the deaths of the bosses that supposedly drop this item. Because the drop isn't guaranteed, and it generally drops from a non-final boss, it's causing a lot of groups to lose well-geared players who are running non-Hour of Twilight dungeons solely to obtain this.

Comentado por Triforcia

A guildmate looted it from Daakara in Zul'Aman.

@ shadra
Yes you have to carry the Darkmoon Adventurer's Guide with you to be able to roll greed for it. My twink didn't have the guide when it dropped in Zul'aman and I coudln't roll greed.

Comentado por Zappadohdah

Is it BoP? Going nuts queueing and thinking of getting my little tanky to work.

Comentado por 690380

Just ran Deadmines non-heroic and Ripsnarl gave the ornate weapon - not this book.

Comentado por Alfa

I am guessing this is from Heroic dungeons. Not sure whether the new ones drop it or not.

Tickets Per Faire

Dungeon: 40
Heroic Dungeon: 15
Raid: 10
Tradeskill quests (primary): 8
Tradeskill quests (secondary): 12
BGs: 15
Kill Quest: 10
Mini Games*: 35

Total Tickets per faire: 145

Notice is says dungeon 40? The dungeon ones give ten each and there are four of them. Then there is the Heroic Dungeon that gives 15 and I am sure its talking about this one being in heroic dungeons.

Source - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3657441916?page=25#485

Comentado por 371378

"Total Tickets per faire: 145" is not correct since you are able to win the darkmoon arena event every three hours. This chest contains 5 or 10 prizetokens as well.

Comentado por 711058

that is incorrect. you do not have to have "entering the zone"... the guy before the portal to dmf will give you the guide aswell.

Comentado por Zuleria

A lot of people do not have the dungeon journal and this enabled me to win 3 of these things. One has already sold for about 4k gold so be on the lookout for them for cheap or be sure to grab your dungeon journal.

Comentado por 347714

You can buy Um Tratado sobre Estratégia on the auction house, along with all the other objects required for Espoliador de Negraluna, if you're having trouble getting it to drop for you.

Buying Um Tratado sobre Estratégia in particular may be popular, as it appears to have a very low drop rate from applicable bosses; moreover, the boss only drops one of the item, forcing everyone in the 5-man dungeon group who is eligible (i.e., those who have Guia do Aventureiro de Negraluna) to roll on it to see who wins (unlike Runas do Adivinho, which drops for everyone in the raid group). Alternatively, if you have Um Tratado sobre Estratégia and don't want it, try putting it up on AH - you may fetch a pretty penny for it (which is also why everyone in your group will likely roll against you for it!)!

Bear in mind that Um Tratado sobre Estratégia can be obtained anytime from the appropriate bosses, as long as you have Guia do Aventureiro de Negraluna in your bags, even if Darkmoon Faire is not currently in town.

Comentado por 938224

A Treatise on Strategy dropped from the last bosses in Zul'aman and Zul'gurub for me today. I rolled against one other person in both cases and won both rolls.

Comentado por Ragall

Heroic Slabhide is pretty easy to solo as a hunter if you rather not farm Heroics for it.

The strat is the same as if you were on normal.

I prefer BM spec but it might be possible as Marks or Survival. I use a spirit beast for trash, specced defensively, and a turtle for Slabhide, also specced defensively. My gear level is currently 395 and made up of all PvE pieces.

1. When you first enter the instance, MD to you pet, send him onto Millhouse, nuke Millhouse to 50%, dismiss pet and FD.

2. Use camo to run to the third pack. I prefer to kill the third pack one mob at a time, dismissing my pet and FD after every kill.

3. Run back to the 2nd pack and nuke Millhouse again to make him run away and summon the first boss.

4. Use camo and Aspect of the Cheetah to run to Slabhide.

5. Slabhide is much easier to solo on Heroic than say KT, from Tempest Keep, but does require you to pay attention and minimize mistakes. Focus on keeping Mend Pet always up and move as soon as a Lava Fissure is cast under your feet. Avoid standing in front of Slabhide because his Sand Blast does hurt. Move behind the pillars when he casts Crystal Storm. Use your pet's cooldowns as necessary, he does hit for a noticeable some.

That's all there is to it. Normally it takes me around 10-12min a run, making this method for obtaining A Treatise on Strategy well worth my time.

Comentado por Smurrfetteqt

I got mine today off the first boss in Vortex Pinnacle. First time I decided to Q, I chose VP because I read someone say 2 dropped in VP and all the others appeared to have 1.

I am quite over geared for VP, the other guys were in greens. /shoutouts to Tyinor for passing it over to me with out even asking!

Comentado por Almidea

Oh my. Yes, I read 100% of all of this. UG!

I was researching if I needed the guide book on me to loot the Treatise but so many contradicting chat, I still don't know.
.....1)Can anyone confirm, do you need the guide to make Treatise drop?

.....2)Do you have to run these Heroics during the Dark Moon Faire or anytime?

I looked at my achievements (where I had all artifacts, except this one) as of yesterday. After the BLIZZ update and restart, I now have NO booksartifacts showing.
......3)Does anyone else have this issue? I'm submitting a report to Blizz now. Thanks.

***edit*** Blizz ticket, GM responded quickly...said it was a new issue and give them a few days to fix.

Comentado por 740305

Patch 4.3.2 Hotfixes - February 2
Darkmoon Faire
Soothsayer's Runes and A Treatise on Strategy should now drop from all appropriate Heroic and raid bosses.
Murozond's Temporal Cache now has a chance to contain Monstrous Egg and A Treatise on Strategy.

Comentado por Didikillyou

It appears to have boosted droprate since the 4.3.2.
I haven't seen any for months but since the patch atleast one drops everyday.

Comentado por stuffeh

Updated for mop and it looks like there are no drops in Monastério Shado-pan. According to the wowhead, Um Tratado sobre Estratégia drops in heroic mode, and the other items drop in normal modes off the respective boss. I.e.: Arma Ornamentada drops in normal and not heroic.

I've compiled a easy to see table of where each item for Especialista em Masmorras de Negraluna can be found to get the most bang for your regular/heroic dungeon queues since Blizzard "fixed" the drops so that Feira de Negraluna monthly quest items can only be looted in level appropriate dungeons. This is ordered in alphabetical order, with the instances that drops the most items for DMF items towards the top.

Notes:
I'm keeping the level 80 and 85 data for people who have not upgraded from the Battlechest and Cata to MoP.
If you find that a boss drops something not listed here. Leave a reply and I'll add it in, eventually.

Cataclysm

Litocerne

Nexus

Salões Rochosos

Expurgo de Stratholme

Castelo Violeta

Mists of Pandaria	Cristal Imbuído	Ovo Monstruoso	Grimório Misterioso	Arma Ornamentada	Um Tratado sobre Estratégia
Palácio Mogu'shan		Xin, o Mestre de Armas	Xin, o Mestre de Armas
Salões Escarlates		Mestre Armeiro Harlan	Mestre Armeiro Harlan
Monastério Escarlate	Alta-inquisidora Cristalba		Irmão Korloff	Irmão Korloff
Scolomântia		Umbromestre Gandling	Umbromestre Gandling
Cervejaria Malte do Trovão	Saltallus		Saltallus
Templo da Serpente de Jade	Sha da Dúvida		Sha da Dúvida
Portal do Sol Poente			Comandante Ri'mok
Monastério Shado-pan
Cristal Imbuído	Ovo Monstruoso	Grimório Misterioso	Arma Ornamentada	Um Tratado sobre Estratégia
Salões Primordiais	Setesh	Guardião do Templo Anhuur	Rajh
Hora do Crepúsculo		Arcebispo Benedictus	Asira Raiamorte	Arcebispo Benedictus
Cidade Perdida dos Tol'vir	Trancabucho	General Husam	Sumo Profeta Barim
Caverna Rocha Negra		Karsh Dobraferro	Lorde Ascendente Obsidius
Fim dos Tempos	Murozond		Murozond
Grim Batol		Mestre Forjador Throngus	General Umbriss
Bastilha da Presa Negra		Lorde Godfrey	Comandante Floraval
Pináculo do Vórtice	Asaad		Grã-vizir Ertan
Trono das Marés	Lady Naz'jar		Comandante Ulthok
Nascente da Eternidade	Rainha Azshara		Mannoroth
Minas Mortas		Almirante Rosnarrasga
		Couro-pétreo

Wrath of the Lich King	Cristal Imbuído	Ovo Monstruoso	Grimório Misterioso	Arma Ornamentada
Ahn'kahet: O Velho Reino		Jedoga Buscassombra	Príncipe Taldaram
Bastilha Drak'Tharon	Rei Moso	Novos, o Evocador
Ormorok, o Molda-árvores	Keristrasza
Azjol-Nerub	Anub'arak
Gundrak		Gal'darah
Salões Relampejantes	Loken
	Donzela da Mágoa
Fosso de Saron	Senhor do Flagelo Tyrannus
	Salramm, o Esculpecarne
Cyanigosa
Pináculo Utgarde	Skadi, o Impiedoso

Comentado por jaxsonbateman

I think it's worth mentioning that despite its low drop rate, it's still only one per group. So you're fighting double RNG - the odds of actually having it drop, and the odds of beating the other likely 2-3 people in the group that have the dungeon journal (and are thus eligible to roll).

It's no wonder that this sells on the AH for 8-10k, given that it's impossible to get a mount in a single DMF without it (180 required, 175 from doing everything else).

It's also worth noting that as this gives 15 tickets, you'll be average out 180 tickets over 3 DMFs by turning it in once. Which is handy.

Comentado por MMOSimca

Alright, I've looked through all the comments and I believe that A Treatise on Strategy was hotfixed farther than Blizzard admitted. I killed Benedictus in Hour of Twilight, and he dropped both items. However, only I (the tank) was able to roll on the Treatise, while four people were able to roll on the Grimoire. I have no possible explanation for this except that Blizzard must have changed how the Treatise drops (possibly an individual loot now?).

Here is the chat excerpt:
Archbishop Benedictus yells: I looked into the eyes of The Dragon, and despaired...
You receive currency: x77.
Your share of the loot is 1 Gold, 71 Silver, 47 Copper.
You have selected Greed for:
Greed Roll - 92 for by Pexil
You won:
You receive loot: .
You have selected Greed for:
Firymaniac passed on:
Hellshoot has selected Greed for:
Karel has selected Greed for:
Ongi has selected Greed for:
Greed Roll - 100 for by Karel
Greed Roll - 39 for by Ongi
Greed Roll - 3 for by Pexil
Greed Roll - 96 for by Hellshoot
Karel won:
Karel receives loot: .

As you can see, nothing we currently know about the Treatise can explain why I was the only one able to see and loot The Treatise on Strategy in this scenario. Given that several other comments on this page are mentioning "luckily I was the only one who could roll" as of recent, I suspect Blizzard omitted the full changes made to the Treatise. It is possible that I was a victim of a bizarre bug or that this is some new unannounced tank incentive, but I doubt it.

Comentado por Keilden

So Lothar wrote this book, yet I got it from Mannoroth in Well of Eternity, several thousand years befor Lothar was born and the first time Mannoroth even was on Azeroth.

Comentado por 912644

I have gotten this 3 times in the last week, running Random Cata Heroics.... interesting drop rate.... And I'm pretty sure that most people in the group have been rolling on it, so they've got the adventurer's guide.....

Comentado por finnishboy

can u get this at lvl 20? coz i got the mysterious egg, mysterious grimoire and ornate weapon im playing on starter edition =)

Comentado por Jarakin

"Cannot roll Need" . Just imagine the reaction of all those stealers in the game .

Comentado por 1221586

I was only 15 tickets away from my first 180 so I could get a Darkmoon Mount finally and I looted (Um Tratado sobre Estratégia) from Scarlet Halls Armsmaster. Sadly the Darkmoon Faire had just ended 20 minutes prior :( lol

Comentado por Goodwinn

Here is a macro for quickly determining which Darkmoon Artifacts you've turned in so far for that month...

/run for k,v in pairs({{80,8},{316,13},{317,14},{318,15},{0,0},{1,1},{2,2},{3,3},{81,21}})do n,l=GetItemInfo(v+71635)print(l,": ",(IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(v+29443) and "\124cff00ff00TURNED IN" or "\124cffff0000NOT TURNED IN".."\124r"))end

After running it you should see each artifact's name and either "TURNED IN" or "NOT TURNED IN" next to it. If you see a bunch of nil's instead just run it again.

Comentado por Zapph

As of 6.2 this and the other boss-dropping Darkmoon quest items have a chance to drop from any appropriate-level dungeon or raid boss and some higher-level trash as personal loot instead of group loot from specific bosses as they did previously.

Comentado por NinjaLooterLoveU

Also dropped by Coren Direbrew of the Brewfest, Seasonal Event.

Comentado por Cetane50

Easiest way. XP cap a toon at level 20 and farm Stockade. If you dual box (same server) or have a guildee run you even better. You can only have one in your bags at a time on your level 20.

Comentado por Damastes

So is there an update for these items now that Legion has come out? Or these items are still locked to MoP down?

Comentado por VitoGamer

I can confirm that it drops from Smashspite the Hateful on normal difficulty

Comentado por Ghyndui

I've got the book, but Thaddeus Paleo isn't accepting it.
It's been awhile since I've had a drop like this so not sure what I may have missed that I can't complete the quest.
Any ideas out there?

Comentado por Rudag

Those quests give good xp. For low lvl alts set of those items give full level up. If you have time and patience you can level alts only coming to DMF once a month. I have 5 ~lvl50 alts that did zero questing, dungeons and effort thanks to that.

Comentado por Saithis

This item dropped from Gu Cloudstrike (First boss in Shado-Pan Monastery) during the MoP Timewalking week (On Timewalking difficulty). Turned it in for the 10 Darkmoon Prize Tickets and it also appeared to give me credit for achievement progress in my log. So looks like issues with this item have been corrected.

Comentado por Grahran

Since the Shadowlands pre-patch released, it appears that the developers have reduced/removed the level requirements for use of these artefacts. Good news for alts and lower-level characters.

Fallen Adventurer's Journal ~~level 15~~ level 7
Banner of the Fallen ~~level 15~~ level 7
Captured Insignia ~~level 15~~ no level requirement
Imbued Crystal ~~level 15~~ level 7
Monstrous Egg ~~level 15~~ no level requirement
Mysterious Grimoire ~~level 15~~ level 7
Ornate Weapon ~~level 15~~ level 7
Soothsayer's Runes ~~level 60~~ no level requirement
A Treatise on Strategy ~~level 15~~ no level requirement

There is also, a required level improvement to,

Moonfang's Pelt ~~level 90~~ level 1

Comentado por pure162

As of Shadowlands, it seems like the reward of the quest has been reduced from 15x Cupom Premiado de Negraluna down to 10x Cupom Premiado de Negraluna.
I don't know if it's intended or not.

Comentado por Erlik

Macro for checking if DMF-quests are turned in.
This is an updated macro which works after the Shadowlands expansion. Blizzard did a few changes with 9.0
I added Moonfang's Pelt as well

/run for k,v in pairs({{0,0},{1,1},{2,2},{3,3},{80,8},{81,21},{316,13},{317,14},{318,15},{34256,3911}})do n,w=GetItemInfo(v+71635)print(w,": ",(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(v+29443) and "Delivered" or "Not Delivered"))end

Comentado por Damasta1337

Updated Macro for checking which Darkmoon Faire quest artifacts have been turned in:
/run for k,v in pairs({{0,0},{1,1},{2,2},{3,3},{80,8},{81,21},{316,13},{317,14},{318,15},{34256,3911}})do w=GetItemInfo(v+71635)print(w,": ",(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(v+29443) and "Delivered" or "Not Delivered"))end

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