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Comentado por mak484

Will be added in 3.2. These will drop from the newly added Argent Tournament 10 and 25 man raids.

For anyone not privy on the patch notes and who are currently saying 'great, another stupid badge type', there is good news. All raids and heroic instances added prior to 3.2, such as Naxx-25 and all heroic 5-man instances, will now drop Emblem of Conquest instead. This leads me to believe that items that already cost emblems of conquest, ie this belt which currently costs 28, will have their cost increased. Still, a great change; assuming emblem vendors will still sell the tokens, it will now be possible to get 4 pieces of T7/7.5 without raiding.

EDIT: The armor sets purchasable with these emblems just went up on the PTR. Currently, You can buy this set for a total of 315 emblems, or this set for 210 emblems. In both cases I compared them to T8.5 In addition, there are also ranged slots for 25 emblems, rings for 35, and trinkets for 50. Thats a lotta gear!

From the looks of the achievements, theres going to be 5 bosses in the raid, with additional rewards possible in 25 man and both heroic versions. If you do the normal daily and heroic daily every day, and all four raids every week (not likely until everyone gets used to the raids) you could easily make ~40 emblems a week, likely much more. Will update when the instance/raids go live on PTR.

Comentado por 228308

The Emblem of Valor/Heroism Killer..

Comentado por ASpi

Emblems of Valor/Heroism will be no more!

Comentado por Ryolo

Even though that 3.2 kills most living emblems of heroism and valor, some emblems are kept alive in the emblem zoo of Dalaran. The heroism and valor emblems are now endangered species, but they are not extinct.

Comentado por neomasterc

i believe u can still get emblems of heroism and valor by turning in emblems of conquest, which will be dropped from all previous ones that drop conquest/valor/heroism. u can buy stuff like epic gems from heroism i think.

Comentado por 150104

At the Implemntation of Next Patch..

By Converting and downgrading conquest emblems one can get

Tier 7 Gloves
Tier 7.5 Legs
Tier 7.5 Shoulders
Tier 8.5 Helm
Tier 8.5 Chest

By Running heroics and spending then downgrading conquest emblems. (Or Vice-Versa if you prefer)

Comentado por 146819

Emblems of Heroism and Emblems of Valor are being completely removed from all loot tables. The only way to get them will be to trade Emblems of Conquest.

Comentado por 148365

who who would be stupid enough to give an emblem of conquest for a valor and then for a heroism

Someone who wanted one of the items that you can't buy directly with Emblems of Conquest. If I want to buy an heirloom post-3.2, I'll need to get Conquest, then turn them in for Valor and then Heroism.

There's only a limited number of things you can buy with Conquest emblems. Once you've bought them all, what else are you going to do?

Comentado por 100462

Heh. I just noticed the names of the T9 vendors. Alliance players buy from Champion Isimode (easy mode?) and Horde players from Champion Faesrol (faceroll?), at least on the PTR, according to wowwiki...

Comentado por Sounder

The daily normal dungeon quest (Timear Foresees) will now grant 1 Emblem of Conquest rather than Triumph.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17899680776&sid=1

Comentado por Portia

To clear up come confusion.

Tier 9 sets are broken in to 3 varieties, an ilvl 232 "Conquerer's" (10-man normal ) set, an ilvl 245 "Triumphant" (10-man heroic and 25-man normal ) set, and an ilvl 258 "Totally Triumphant" (25-man heroic) set.

The ilvl 232 & 245 sets are only available through these Emblems of Triumphs (EoT), there are no token drops for these two sets in the Colosseum . The ilvl 258 sets are available through the 25-man heroic, and are only available via token drops there from bosses.

The 232 sets cost 50 EoT each for Chest/Legs/Helm, 30 EoT for Gloves/Shoulders, 210 EoT total for a full set.

The 245 sets cost 75 EoT each for Chest/Legs/Helm, 45 EoT for Gloves/Shoulders AND a specific boss drop from the 25-man called Trophy of the Crusade (the raid will see a maximum of 5 a week or 10 if both 25 man heroic and normal modes are run), 315 EoT total for a full set.

Trophy of the Crusade has not been seen in the 10-man heroic on the PTR; although it's possible that this has changed it is unlikely you'll see this drop from there.

Emblems of Triumph drop from Bosses in all difficulties of the Coliseum itself (2 per boss) and 2 EoTs are rewarded by completing the daily heroic dungeon.

Spending badges on the 232 sets is detrimental to getting the 245 sets, just don't bother with the 232 sets unless you never expect to set foot in 25-man normal mode and loot a Trophy of the Crusade.

Comentado por 269629

I'd just like to add that you receive 2 emblems of triumph from the daily heroic, but only 1 emblem of conquest for the daily dungeon.

Comentado por Crevox

Emblems of Triumph drop from Bosses in all difficulties of the Coliseum itself (2 per boss)

Wrong. I got 3 per boss in the normal mode of the 10 man.

Comentado por xris

...for me to poop on!

Comentado por 111622

Normal Mode, 10-Player, each boss drops 3 Emblems. As of right now (this post) there are only 3 bosses out right now, meaning... 9 Triumph Emblems from a full clear. This amount will change in the future.

Note that the 1st encounter counts as 1 boss, even though you fight multiple creatures.

Comentado por Qroth

VoA Koralon 10 man: 2 emblems
VoA Koralon 25 man: 2 emblems
Daily heroic dungeon: 14 emblems
TotC 10 man normal: 15 emblems
TotGC 10 man heroic: 15 emblems
TotC 25 man normal: 15 emblems
TotGC 25 man heroic: 15 emblems
Onyxia 10 man: 3 emblems
Onyxia 25 man: 3 emblems

Total per week: 84 emblems

Comentado por 93128

I can get behind this.

Comentado por coolguyry

For those of you who want to know how many emblems it will take to get what you want, it's time to do some math. :P (Please note that this is the "Get your Emblems from Heroics, Lazy Ass Edition") To get the complete tier 9 set you need approxiamtely 210 Emblems of Triumph . So during a week if you do heroics everyday for 7 days, you get 14 emblems for that week.

So 210/14= 15. It would take 15 weeks for you to get the ilvl232 Tier 9 pieces. But this is from doing heroics. From VoA 10/25, if you kill Koloran (in both modes) you get 4 Emblems of Triumph. And also from TotC 10/25 (both normal and heroic) You would get 60 Emblems of Triumph. So if you were do all these instances during the week you would get 78 Emblems of Triumph per week ( The TotC 10/25 heroic is only for hard mode players, so don't get your hopes up :P).

So this is pretty vital information if you think about it and if you just want to know how you can get your nice tier 9 lvl items.

Use the information to your advantage!

Edit: Forgot to mention that Onyxia drops 3 emblems of Triumph in both 10 player and 25 player adding up the total to 84 badges a week. That is if you're that hardcore.

Edit #2: Now with the addition of Patch 3.3, obtaining these have never been easier! You can now get them from just doing heroic dungeons, PuGing, and also raids like Naxx, Uld, VoA (Archavon and Emalon), OS, and EoE! Free tier 9 for everyone!

Comentado por Pepinhus

is there a limit amount for these?

Comentado por EvilElpay

VoA Koralon 10 man: 2 emblems
VoA Koralon 25 man: 2 emblems
Daily heroic dungeon: 14 emblems
TotC 10 man normal: 15 emblems
TotC 10 man heroic: 15 emblems
TotC 25 man normal: 15 emblems
TotC 25 man heroic: 15 emblems
Total per week: 78 emblems

Thank you, all of this talk about conquest badges made me dizzy.

Comentado por carter

There are a few ways to get these each week:

ToC 10 - 15 emblems
ToC 10 Hard - 15 emblems
ToC 25 - 15 emblems
ToC 25 Hard - 15 emblems
Daily Heroic - 14 emblems
Vault 10 (Koralon) - 2 emblems
Vault 25 (Koralon) - 2 emblems
Onyxia 10 - 3 emblems
Onyxia 25 - 3 emblems

Up to 84 emblems each week.

Edit. Added Onyxia emblems and updated total

Comentado por 234475

soon in patch 3.3 you will be able to trade one of these for a faction commendation. Also rep gains will be increased by 30% for most (if not all) northrend factions. So if your'e going for that achievement start saving now.

Comentado por 170940

so come patch 3.3, these triumph emblems will be attainable by doing lich king heroics, and the heroic dailies will become frost tokens? someone please explain...

Comentado por johankj

10x Emblem of Frost will also be a rewarded by completing Weekly Raid Quests
(similar to the current daily heroic dungeon system, but once a week)
You need to kill this raid boss:
1. Anub'Rekhan (Naxx)
2. Flame Leviathan (Ulduar)
3. Ignis the Furnace Master slain (Ulduar)
4. Instructor Razuvious (Naxx)
5. Lord Jaraxxus (Toc)
6. Lord Marrowgar (icecrown citadel)
7. Malygos (EoE)
8. Noth the Plaguebringer (Naxx)
9. Patchwerk (Naxx)
10. Razorscale (Ulduar)
11. Sartharion (Obsidian Sanctum)
12. XT-002 Deconstructor (Ulduar)

2x Emblem of Frost will also be rewarded for completing the first PuG that you do, daily,
using Patch 3.3's new LFG system.

Comentado por 408641

If you give them to the nice green lady near the sewer bank she'll give you Emblems of Conquest which IMO should never be done unless you somehow got onto the account of someone you hate and they are 1 away from getting the item they want :o

Comentado por 125087

all i wanted to find was the prices. checked trophies and these. nothing.

so here they are.
T9
Helm:50
Shoulders:30
Chest:50
Gloves:30
Legs:50
(210 emblems)

T9.5(with trophy)
Helm:75
Shoulders:45
Chest:75
Gloves:45
Legs:75
(315 emblems + 5 trophies)

most classes/builds have a BoE chest that is best in slot(some better than the T9.9(258) chest, some not.)

Comentado por Icecoldcoke

In patch 3.3 you can buy commendation badges for each major WotLK faction. They give 520 rep, and cost one badge each.

They added these because the dungeon daily is being removed, so you will no longer be able to get commendation badges for doing it.

Comentado por tonydizzle

The normal Wrath of the Lich King Daily Random Dungeon option will award two Emblem of Triumph no more than once a day.

Continuing to complete Wrath of the Lich King Heroic instances using the Daily Random Dungeon option will award players two additional Emblems of Triumph each time.

Anyone else find that extremely confusing? It seems they are saying you can continue to do random Heroics for two emblems of Triumph each time, but at the same time saying that you cannot.

Then again, it seems they might also me saying you must do the Random Regular Daily once, and then you can continue to do random Heroics for Emblems of Triumph each time. Possibly to make it so players cannot continue to do a Random Regular for Emblems of Triumph as they could be completed an unlimited number of times to get completely 232/245 geared in one day, but still letting us get more than two a day by doing Heroics. Is this what they are doing instead of actually making Triumph drop in heroics? The blue post did say things could change so maybe this is what it changed to?

Going to try to find more info on this...

EDIT: Seems I won't have to look into this anymore as I will find out soon enough. Downloading the 3.3 patch data now, so 3.3 is imminent. :)

Comentado por joneru

Now that Patch 3.3 has landed, heroic dungeons are droping Triumphs instead of Emblems of Conquest. Players also have the opportunity to run the same heroic dungeon multiple times within the same lockout peroid, as part of the Dungeon Finder system.

This makes the gearing up of alts a much quicker process. But how quick? Lets run some numbers...

First of is to calculate the amout of emblems for gear. The links will open up that a list of that slot's options. Anything with resilence has been removed to keep this list focussed on PvE. Available to purchase with Triumphs are:

Head (50 emblems)
Shoulders (30 emblems)
Chest (50 emblems)
Hands (30 emblems)
Legs (50 emblems)
Ring (35 emblems)
Trinket (50 emblems)
Ranged/Relic/Idol/Libram/Totem (25 emblems)

Totalling 320 emblems required.
It should be noted that these are for the 232 level gear. The head & shoulder slots have a 245 level option for 75 & 50 emblems respectively. If this option is chosen, then the total emblems comes to 365.

The item slots that are missing are the neck, wrist, waist, feet, and second ring/trinkets. So from there we have:

Neck (19 emblems of conquest)
Cloak (25 emblem of valor)
Wrist (60 emblems of valor)
Waist (28 emblems of conquest)
Feet (40 emblems of valor)
Finger (25 emblems of valor)
Trinket (40 emblem of heroism)

Totalling 237 non-Triumph emblems. The grand total emblems required is 557 (or 602 with the head & shoulder options).

There are 13 16 heroic dungeons currently in game, with a total of 52 60 bosses. Averaging out the number of bosses per dungeon gives 3.75 bosses per dungeon, and therefore 3.75 emblems per dungeon. There is also an extra two emblems received from completing the random dungeon

557 ÷ 5.75 = 96.87 or 97 runs to fully kit out a new level-80.

A dungeon run can take between 15-45mins from start to finish, depending on the group skill & gearing levels. If a 20min run is assumed per dungeon, then it works out to be 1940mins, or about 32 hours. Lets say a player logs on for 4 hours a day, then a new 80 is looking at approximately 8 days to be fully geared up.

These calculations don't take into account (thanks tonydizzle:-) ) weapons or better drops from dungeons. Weapons were excluded because there is too much personal choice to add to (what is meant to be) an overall guide. Better drops were excluded because, well... the RNG gods hate me, and I am looking at the worst case scenario here.

Edit: added in the new ICC 5-mans into the calculations, and links to items.

Comentado por tonydizzle

*Wall of text stares at you menacingly*

One thing you didn't factor in is that the newer dungeons (ToC and soon ICC) drop gear far superior (for the most part) to the valor gear. Coming from your Death Knight (dps, since you can't just hop into heroics as a tank unless you have a full nice crafted set, even though there seem to be a lot of people who think you can) perspective:

Vambrances of Unholy Command are more or less superior to Wristbands of the Sentinel Huntress

Plated Greaves of Providence are superior to Bladed Steelboots

Banner of Victory is superior to Mirror of Truth

All three of these drop from ToC (heroic for the first two and regular for the trinket) so this isn't even including the ICC 5-man heroic (ilvl 232) and regular (ilvl 219) drops.

Plus you forgot one slightly important (and by slightly I mean THE MOST XD) item and that is your weapon. No other item has a bigger effect on your dps than your weapon as melee. And that means Edge of Ruin is your bread and butter starter or even Marrowstrike as they are very comparable for melee dps (unless you are an Orc).

Plus the one thing I hate to remind you all of is the fact that you shouldn't hit 80 and immediately try to go into these heroics unless you have been doing reg dungeons all through 70-80 as you will most likely be SEVERLY undergeared for even the original heroics if you are running in all quest greens/blues... Other option obviously being crafted (or purchased BoE) ilvl 200 gear to start you off. (All of this being moot if you are in a guild with geared people willing to drag you through to get geared, but please don't assume this will happen with PuGs, you will probably be voted out if you are pulling <1k dps... Which is one thing I am worried about using the LFD feature, will it look at people's gear or can people in lvl 70 greens hop in a lvl 80 heroic with it...)

EDITS: Clarification and spelling...

Comentado por Ryuji2

Interesting. I'm not sure if I just skipped over a comment or not but earlier I was doing FoS, PoS and HoR in quest order in normal mode and found that emblems of Triumph dropped off each boss in all 3 instances. Is this because I went in lfg for it or what? Kinda confusing since I thought EoT would only drop off heroic modes.

Comentado por 357668

For your information.

With patch 3.3 (Icecrown Citadel content), all level 80 dungeons that currently drop Emblem of Conquest will drop Emblem of Triumph instead. The daily dungeon quests available in Dalaran will be removed.

The new Emblem of Frost will be rewarded for the first daily random-dungeon quest, weekly raid quests, certain bosses in the current WotLK raids, and the bosses in the new ICC raids.

While these changes will make Triumph the easy-to-farm badge, there will still be a need for Conquest and lower emblems due to the current vendor itemization.

NOTE: Posted here to match my post under Emblem of Conquest. Not wishing to repeat the good information that joneru has already posted.

Comentado por Archaeic

In 3.3, doing all the heroics in-game in one day will net you 53 Emblems of Triumph.

A full set of T9 (or at least the Druid T9) costs 210 Emblems of Triumph.
53 x 4 = 208, so this means that it will take you four days in 3.3 to get full T9.

This is without factoring in any sort of daily, so it may actually take you less time.

Comentado por Delvara

Apparently, these will drop from heroics now.

I, with an iLevel of 252, love this change.

No more sitting in trade spamming: LF1M Healer for 10ToGC, then g2g for 2 hours.

Comentado por Spectre27

Is there a way to get Heirloom items with these?
Any at all?

Comentado por 43806

Emblems of Triumph drop in normal versions of
Icecrown Citadel: Halls of Reflection
Icecrown Citadel: Pit of Saron
Icecrown Citadel: The Forge of Souls

And if you are below 80 and use the random dungeon feature you can get 'Emblem of Triumph' as a reward, so you will have badges ready when you hit 80.

Comentado por 113229

Emblems of Triumph are taking the place of Emblems of Conquest in 5-man Heroic Dungeons in patch 3.3.

Comentado por Barinthos

Just in case it wasn't mentioned. The emblems will no longer show up on the bodies of the bosses. Instead they will just appear in your Currency tab automatically after the boss is killed.

And if for some reason you get disconnected after a boss kill, you will get the emblem(and if applicable Stone Keeper Shards) mailed to you. I know this because it happened to me. 4 Shards and 1 Emblem were mailed to me when I got D/C in a dungeon.

Comentado por CetraTezirit

COMPILED FROM: www.wowwiki.com

Emblems per heroic instance:

Utgarde Keep: 3
Utgarde Pinacle: 4
Nexus: 5
The Oculus: 4
Azjol Nerub: 3
Old Kingdom: 5
The Violet Hold: 3
Gun'Drak: 5
Drak'Tharon Keep: 5
Halls of Stone: 4
Halls of Lightning: 4
Caverns of Time: 5
Forge of Souls (N): 2
Pit of Saron (N): 3
Halls of Reflection (N): 3
Total: 58

Wether or not this is including the 2 Emblems of Triumph included with the Random Heroic Dungeon (2 Frost, then 2 extra triumph afterwards), I do not know.

Any additions and/or corrections would be welcomed.

Comentado por 497513

I can confirm as of 3.3 and the new LFG system, these are alot easier to achieve.

To prove a point I have successfully farmed 4 peices of T9 protadin gear in 1 day by pugging, previously hard without a decent group of friends who had equal amounts of time to give away during the week (I was off work, legitimately, sick! lol).

That's not to say it still doesn't require a fair amount of skill and high DPS offspec to not get kicked out of HC groups, but in all honesty all gear now requiring only Emblem of Triumph has become alot less rare and alot less valuable.

The bright side to this means I can now be bothered to gear my alts! :)

Comentado por omerc10696

You start receiving these instead of satchel of helpful goods at lvl 69

Comentado por MarkraM

If it hasn't been noted yet, Emblems of Triumph now drop from ever 5 man Heroic boss in Northrend aswell.

Comentado por 536090

These are so easy to farm with dungeon finder. Always queue to random HC and you'll get these easy. I did grind around 300 of these as a pala tank, then just buy some tiers or buy heirlooms and make an alt. Enjoy your time at grinding these, easy as pie. :)

Comentado por 133698

As of patch 3.3 These are Still the type of emblems.

A few people of importance concerning These type of badges include
http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=35494 Allys Emblem of Triumph Vendor in Dalaran Shes up the stairs Directly Across from the portals Cords 38, 53http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47241
http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=35495 Horde version I'm not horde So i Cant go into detail but she stands at Cords 65,23 in Dalaran.
http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=35580 Horde T9 Vendor in icecrown Cords 72,22.
http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=35579 ally t9 Vendor in icecrown Cords 75,22.

Comentado por 288975

The post you are replying to (unless there was one deleted in the short time between you posting yours and me posting this) was referring to getting them back in patch 3.2, when conquest dropped from heroics, and triumph were rewards from raids or the daily heroic. Saying "or you could" makes it sound like you are comparing like to like, which you arent. What might have been more helpful, rather than just state the obvious (and to be honest, you keep saying "take some friends or guildmates" like it helps a lot - it only makes a difference to queue times if they are a healer/tank and you are dps only) would be stating how many you get from dungeons, so that people have and idea how many they need to run if they did want that 210 for full T9;

Dungeon Min bosses Max Bosses
Azjol Nerub 3 3
Azjol Nerob:Old Kingdom 3 5
Drak'Tharon Keep 2 4
Gundrak 4 6
CoT: Strat 4 5
The Nexus 5 5
Utgarde Keep 3 3
Utgarde Pinnacle 2 4
Trial of the Champion 3 3
The Occulus 4 4
Halls of Stone 2 4
Halls of Lightning 3 4
Forge Of Souls 2 2
Pit of Saron 3 3
Halls of Reflection 3 3

Unless I havent forgotten anything, this would average at about 3 per minimum clear, and 4 per full clear. If you picked your dungeons all the time, it would take you 70 minimum clear runs and about 55 max clear runs (assuming you randomly picked yourself which one you had). What is probably more usefull is taking into account the extra emblems from doing the random dungeon (which would also add and extra 2 to Occulus as you get that as a reward from doing it as a random). So, you now get on average 5 per min clear, and 6 per max clear. This now makes it 42 minimum clear runs to get full T9, and 35 maximum clear runs to get full t9. In reality, it will probably take a few more runs than this (but is also possible to take less) depending how many times you run per day, but that's enough maths for now!

Comentado por Bareno

Thought I post this here, since other people liked this... if you want to manage or get rid of stuff in your currency tab, type "/script ToggleBag(-4)" in game.

Comentado por 557389

You can trade emblems 1:1 only downwards in the following hierarchy:
Emblem of Frost
Emblem of Triumph
Emblem of Conquest
Emblem of Valor
Emblem of Heroism
You get many emblems of triumph by running lots of random heroic WotLK dungeons daily. Don't convert them down except just enough to get a specific piece of gear. You can't convert them back up again.

Comentado por Maelchav

OK, here's my situation. I'm setting my warlock up to go PvP (mainly BGs, eventually arena I guess). My friend, a rogue, and I agreed to lock out exp at level 79 so we could rock that bracket for a while before facing the resilience-laden folks at 80. The set of gear I have my eye on will cost tons of Honor, plus some WG marks and about 200 Emblems of Triumph (I could buy it all with Honor, but using marks and emblems will save like 187k Honor).

If I'm frozen at level 79, and I don't raid (all my resources are going into getting PvP gear, so I don't have gear worthy of raiding), is my only source of Emblems of Triumph the first random dungeon of each day? Am I doomed to trudge through 100 days' worth of random (non-heroic, because I'm 79) dungeons to get my 2 per day? Is there any other way to earn them?

In the end, I will unlock exp and level to 80 - and have this set of PvP gear waiting for me (because I won't be able to wear it at 79, it all requires 80). I'm hoping that will help me cope with all the geared folks in the 80 bracket and hopefully not fall too far from grace compared to what I can do in 70-79. Any thoughts?

Thanks!

Comentado por Skjaldmo

I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS.

Comentado por Snikmord

These emblems can be used prior to hitting level 80, although the item states otherwise. They can also be downgraded*.

*External link to Usuri Brightcoin @ WoWWiki.com

Comentado por 168688

So, I just hit 70 on my 3rd char, but my first that I have worked on since the Dungeon Finder system was put in place. It seems that you can start obtaining these by doing daily randoms (2 a day like Frost at 80). However, it also seems that you are unable to buy the T9 gear until you reach level 80.

Comentado por norg

Along with Emblems of Frost, these will now be converted into Justice Points at a rate of 11.58 JP per Emblem (up from Blizzard's previous rate of 2.75 JP per Emblem). This will happen with the forthcoming deployment of patch 4.0.1.

This means the Tier 9/10 items (and all other items currently available on the various Emblem vendors) will cost about the same in 4.0.1 as they do in 3.3.5, comparatively speaking. At the previously mooted conversion rate of 2.75 JP per Emblem, they were set to be much more costly post-4.0.1.

Comentado por QFred

As of the 4.0, these were converted to Justice Points, much like Frosts.

Comentado por ChickNourish

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Hmmmmmm.... I wonder how this information was obtained.

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