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Comentado por Gore123

Exactly the same as Idol of the Shooting Star which drops from Instructor Razuvious in Naxxramas.

Comentado por Starfox

Looking at the distinct things that effect SF/IS
How much damage is gained per spellpower per cast
SF:
Scaling: 3.5 / 3.5 = 1.0
Wrath of Cenarius: 1.0 + 0.20 = 1.20
Moonfury: 1.2 * 1.1 = 1.32
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SF gets 1.32 damage per spellpower per cast (ignoring effects that also effect IS)

IS:
0.2 per tick: 1.2 per cast
Nature's Splendor: 1.4 * spellpower
Glyph: 1.4*1.3 = 1.82
Glyph+T7: 1.4*1.4 = 1.96

IS Idol: 1.96 * 374 = 733 damage per cast
SF Idol: 1.32 * 165 = 217 damage per cast

So if if you SF:IS ratio is 4:1 the IS idol loses and that is ignoring the fact that SF can actually crit.

If you take WWS parses you see that SF normally is >60% crit due to eclipse. 3.1.0 will nerf imp.scorch
to 5%, you will lose your t7-4pc bonus, so lets say 50% crit and 3% crit damage metagem.

IS Idol: 1.96 * 374 = 733 damage per cast
SF Idol: 1.32 * 165 * (1 +.5*1.03) = 330 damage per cast

SF Idol outperforms IS Idol if you cast more than _2_ starfire per Insect Swarm :-(

Comentado por paulthegreat

I love how no one even cares to ask who drops it, because no one wants it. :-P

Comentado por Tanthalus

Got this last night after downing kologarn - and tried it at Auriaya; with the improvenments to IS SP coeficient IS was ticking for near enough the same for me as MF ticks for - i have 2/2 imp MF and with procs they both were ticking for around 1600 , given the amount of moving fights i find a stronger dot a useful addition.

Comentado por Starfox

THe coefficients for IS are getting buffed by around 30% in 3.1.

My calculation was WITH the buffed coefficient

Comentado por 53307

Right, Idol of the Crying. Excellent naming.

Comentado por 84229

Hopefully not to sound stupid, but I would assume the spell power on the new idol would be applied for each tick of the spell, as Insect Swarm isn't like Moonfire with the initial larger damage followed on by a smaller dot ... Insect Swarm is just a dot, and it would seem weird to have that spell power bonus only applied to the first tick of it.

The starfire idol applies the spell power bonus to the whole of the Starfire cast (i.e. it adds on to the one big figure) ... why wouldn't the Insect Swarm one affect the whole Insect Swarm cast? It's not like it says " this idol buffs the first tick of your Insect Swarm by 374 spell power", after all.

If the whole of Insect Swarm is affected by this idol, I'd say that makes this idol pretty darn attractive over the Starfire one, particularly if IS is glyphed and you have the T7 set bonus.

Comentado por liamxsquee

Complete waste of pixels! Why would Blizzard make this piece of ^&*! lol. If they made it increase per tick I use it...

Comentado por Danale

So I read that you can switch idols during combat.

If so, would it be feasible to create a macro like the following:

/equip Idol of the Crying Wind
/cast Insect Swarm
/equip Idol of the Shooting Star
/end

And put it in your hot keys for insect swarm? That way you have Shooting Star equipped for the whole fight except when casting Insect Swarm?

Or does Crying Wind need to be equipped for the whole duration of Insect Swarm in order to work?

Comentado por Phydeaux

Switching your idol while in combat, will cause a Global Cooldown.

Comentado por Genaronoes

With the mechanic for eclipse being changed in 3.2 to alternating Lunar and Solar for max dps the effect of the Starfire or Wrath idols will be diluted. It may well be then that this IS idol will be the BIS for Boomkins (see latest numbers on Gray Matter http://graymatterwow.blogspot.com/2009/06/patch-32-new-eclipse.html). Also, the proposed 3.2 changes may not make it to the final patch.

Still, if you are lucky enough to see it drop and have a chance to roll on it don't pass just because your idol is currently better- go for future proofing your Laser Chicken!

Comentado por 39766

It is wierd that people have failed to mention that this item is indeed purchasable with 19x Emblem of Conquest. With the new heroic system introduced in 3.2 this can easily be affordable for the people who have yet to get a better option. Such as for example the Starfire Idol which increases the spellpower of your starfire by 165, called Idol of the Shooting Star, (Instructor Razuvious 25man)

Comentado por Matt327

I wonder if the Idol is crying about Mary.

Comentado por Kanariya

This used to increase the spell power for Insect Swarm by 374 until Patch 4.0.1 changed all Idols into Relics.

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