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Comentado por lidhryn

São fragmentos que caem dos bosses de Ulduar. São usados para fazer a primeira parte da quest para a arma lendária Val'anyr, o Martelo dos Reis Antigos.

São necessários 25 Fragmento de Val'anyr para iniciar a primeira parte da quest.

Lembrando que esta arma só pode ser adquirida pelas classes: Druidas, Sacerdotes, Xamãs e Monges e Paladinos.

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Comentado por Ferdinado

First legendary item in WoTLK

Comentado por morvain

These drop of 25man bosses on their "hard" modes in Uldaur. You combine 30 of them to recieve the legendary quest item http://ptr.wowhead.com/?item=45039. Once you recieve that item, you turn it into an NPC inside the Archivum. who then gives you a quest to go into Yogg-Saron's brain and defeat him. Once you do this, you will recieve your weapon!

*UPDATE*

As of 4/8/09 there has been an update on the quest. After you collect the shards and recieve the quest to make the mace, you have to throw the shards INTO Yogg-Saron's maw while he is casting defeaning roar. (This is predicted to be casted somewhat later into the fight)

More info here: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?page=855

Comentado por jmalo1

Obviously going to be a healer mace.

Comentado por 73830

well now all classed have had their peice of the legendary cake.
warriors,rogues got thunderfury in vanilla wow, warglaves in TBC, warriors and other 2hand melee dps also got sulfuras. casters got Atiesh in vanilla wow, and hunters (and rogues lol) got Thori'dal in TBC. this is just setting the scales even.

Comentado por 110479

If fragments are a guaranteed drop from every Ulduar hard-mode, top guilds will be getting 11 fragments per week. This means one mace each month, which will make them extremely common next to the other legendaries we've seen in the game.

Of course there's still a chance hard modes will be hard, but I'm betting against it from what we've seen so far on the PTR.

Comentado por rzzr

Seems it is already so famous it has it's own website! here

Comentado por namais

No, This is not a Hunter Item!

Comentado por 350781

I would say gratts to the healer that get the first fragment in a guild. Guess that if the Guild master and the officer got any common sence they let the guy that got the first1 have prio on the others aswell. My personal opinion is that there is just silly to have 2 healers with 15 fragments each.

Comentado por 353995

The drop rates being reported right now are very preliminary, of course, since the instance has only been out for about a week. However, it looks like Blizzard has tuned this to a roughly 10% drop rate on "easy mode" encounters.

Given that (and assuming my math is right):

The odds of assembling 30 fragments after exactly 30 boss kills are so infinitesimally small that it's not even worth reporting.

The odds of assembling 30 after 140 bosses (10 full clears) are roughly 0.004812%.

The odds of assembling 30 after 280 bosses (20 full clears) are roughly 37.339683%.

The odds of assembling 30 after 320 bosses (30 full clears) are roughly 98.271345%.

Notes:

A) Most guilds won't full clear the place the first few weeks. That will likely increase the length of time (but not the number of boss kills) required for a full mace.

B) Many guilds will be moving to "hard mode" bosses well before 30 weeks. Hard mode bosses should have a higher drop rate, hence reducing both the time and the number of boss kills required to assemble a mace - by how much, it is impossible to compute at present.

Assuming that we have another 4-6 months before the next content patch, raid groups that keep after this place through that time should have decent odds (but no guarantee) of assembling exactly one mace. Raid groups that continue farming it for some time after the next raid comes out should have very good odds of assembling a mace.

Comentado por 355519

Legendary mace.

The droprate is 12% for each of the 30 fragments wich means 250 bosses need to be killed for a complete mace.
30/0,12=250

There are 13 bosses to be killed and one that is not.
So 250/13=19 resets.

19/4= 5 months on average to gather the pieces.

The instance will be very old and tired by then and the mace will never see the daylight for many that have fragments.
I feel like this timespan is quite a turnoff, but 3 months would be more like a fair deal.

Comentado por 137244

Stats are:

93-298 Dmg
(108.8 damage per second)
Speed 1.80
+52 Stamina
+54 Intellect
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 47.
Equip: Improves haste rating by 46
Equip: Increases your spell power by 587
Equip: Your healing spells have a chance to cause Blessing of Ancient Kings for 15 seconds allowing your heals to shield the target absorbing damage equal to 15% of the amount healed.
'The power of creation courses through this weapon.'

Comentado por 194630

Yay! I was hoping that I wasn't going to end up ceding this to one of our druids or priests, being the first in line to get this in our guild and being a shammy. I'm seeing a lot of comments on mmo-champion to the effect that this is not itemized well with its lack of regen, but remember you can't compare it directly to the amazing staves that drop in Ulduar unless you're accounting for the offhand you would couple this with. Also, most healers should be able to afford losing regen on their weapon at this level anyway when every other piece of gear for the spirit regenners has, well, spirit lol.

Comentado por Vashi

If I am reading WoW Armory correctly, at http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=45038. These shards actually have a very low chance of dropping on some of the later bosses in Normal Ulduar.

EDIT: Not sure why this is downrated, seeing that Blizzard says it has a chance of dropping from Normal mode too is insightful.

Comentado por 356650

Shard dropped for us in 25 man off razorscale, didnt get the shard but i got the mace the he drops tho :-)

Comentado por Pachirisuneytor

It's worth noting, that altough the recipe Forming Val'anyr, Gavel of Ancient Kings states that you need 29 fragments, the real number you need is 30, because of the game considerating one shard as starting the spell and getting destroyed and then destroying another 29 to complete the spell so the total amount of shards needed is 30.

Comentado por 201581

Do note that, if indeed the fragments have a chance of dropping out of 10 man Ulduar, and a said person Full Clears BOTH 10 Ulduar and 25 Ulduar, it would be much faster to gain Fragments, and be able to produce a mace even earlier than ~13 Weeks. This would give approx 2/4 Guaranteed Fragments(Dependant on Algalon), and then whatever luck you may get for the other 12 Bosses.

Comentado por mixter

The icon is like titansteel that turned orange lol

Comentado por dracco4heads

How much higer is the chanse for a fragment to drop, if you do the boss on hard mode?

Comentado por Reaganator

Anyone know if blizz has changed the drop percentages on these?
I had been running Ulduar regularly during the end of wrath, and remember seeing an average of 4 fragments per run (Once had 6 in a single run) Today I ran a full hard-mode clear at level 85 and saw only ONE fragment, from Yogg (100% drop chance).
Everyone got their drake achievements, and I'm only one frag closer to finishing my Val'anyr. 3 more frags to go.... 4 more weeks at this rate.

Comentado por Superczar

Does anyone have solid proof that 25-man 0-tower mode Flame Leviathon will possibly drop a fragment? My brother and I have been clearing him for a couple weeks now and want to make sure we aren't wasting our time since it's not exactly simple to pull off.

Comentado por 879438

In the Ulduar 25 runs I have gotten around 3 fragments from each normal run(no-glory runs) and around 5 fragments from the glory runs. The most fragments dropped in a run was 6 for me, which was obviously a glory one.

Comentado por AbsolutJake

Did anyone ever confirm that Fragments are more likely to drop in hard mode? I can kill FL with no towers, but if by leaving one tower up increases my chance at seeing a Fragment then I'll try to do that.

Comentado por bojan112

hodir can drop 2 fragments at hard mode if you are lucky enough, 1 in each cache

Comentado por 923437

Bewarned, it can NOT be traded after looting.

Just did a ulduar pug on my paladin. A shard drops with group role on. A couple of poeple think "orange, so i need". Unfortanly a warrior wins it. After some drama, he finaly decides to trade it with me. But he can't.
Bit later at yogg, now with master looter. I roll. some other warrior thinks he can role so he does, higher than me. A paladin guildie see this and tries also to roll and win it for me. Lucky he wins. He trys also to trade it me, and he can't also.

Lost 1 fragement to a ninja, and 1 to some trying to counter a ninja.
Soo next time i'm doing ulduar, i'm going to make sure it's master looter or need before greed

Comentado por Runeweaver

Val'anyr will also be made available for Monks come Mists of Pandaria
Source: I have the fragments in my bag on the BETA and it classifies Monk as an eligible class.

Comentado por Esploratore

At 85 with a decent level of gear (LFR\DS normal) it's possible to 3-man farm this stuff without special problems, I do this as a blood dk 399 item level with a holy paladin in 392 and a fire mage in 390, we can kill 11\14 bosses on 25-man, ofc on normal mode; only bosses not doable are yogg saron (impossible to keep up with tentacles, too much hp, too many of them), algalon (enrage way too tight) and thorim (enrage problems and also p1 doesn't seem doable with less than 4 people, although I reckon a group of 2 blood dks in dps gear and a feral druid might be able to kill this last boss, due to more dps, so easier arena phase).

Normally 2-3 shards drop out of 11 bosses, and mimiron hardmode 25, although most likely not worth the time, IS doable 3-man: a dk in 400 item level or slightly more in full dps gear soloed the 25 normal version letting him enrage at the end of p2, so the only parts which enraged were those not in fight, so for 30 mins he outhealed the adds in p3, then when the enrage ended he finished, this would be the same way to do firefighter 25 in 2-3 people (only 10 mins to get him to the end of p2, so most likely not enough dps solo); would take over an hour, but has more chance to drop; I don't consider other hardmodes doable in so small groups yet, short of maybe flame leviathan.

As of 5.0.4, thorim became doable with our setup, due to insane aoe dps for blood dks, so 1 could just solo the arena till the other 2 complete the tunnel (this with 403 dps gear now), which brings it to 12\14 3-mannable at 25, and also freya +1 doable and has been soloed even +3, but that requires really soloing, cause that way you can stack trash in p2 and get an insane amount of vengeance which allows you to beat the enrage. Mimiron has become harder, hp and damage buffed by 60-70%, but still doable. Haven't had the chance to try, but yogg saron 25-man with all keepers could've been doable 3-man as of the patch, always due to insane aoe dps, and killing tentacles on p2 is the only problem, p3 is a joke.

At level 90 every normal mode encounter should become trivial, still will check which hardmodes will be doable and which ones won't; the ones which were already almost doable at 85, like mimiron firefighter or xt heartbreaker will be a joke, though.

Anyway, lately, I only saw 1 drop each run usually, so anyone can confirm if there might have been a nerf on drop rate since 5.0.4?

Comentado por kyrialvek

Finally getting to finish Val'anyr, o Martelo dos Reis Antigos for my guild's acheivement and I was 2 away after killing Yogg. We went back to Algalon and he appears to now drop Fragmento de Val'anyr putting me 1 away at the end of the night. Just an FYI for those still attempting to get this, it appears they were added to Algalon's loot table.

Comentado por 894226

It's about 3 weeks that i run regulary Ulduar 25 without getting a single fragment.. It seems very odd to me.. Am i really so unlucky or the latest patch cause bug in the drop rate of the fragments of Val'anyr in Ulduar?

Comentado por The0o

For those Level 90s out there farming this, here are a few tips

Fragmento de Val'anyr drops from every boss on 25 Mode with a tiny increase in the drop rate when the boss is killed on "Hard Mode", Not every boss has a Hard Mode (Ignis the Furnace Master, Razorscale, Kologarn and Auriaya lack a Hard Mode) and the only Boss with an 100% Drop rate is Yogg-Saron. However i do suspect Algalon the Observer has a higher than normal drop rate (30-50ish%), Also Hodir can drop 2 fragments at hard mode (one from each cache).

- Note 1 -
This means on :
A BAD run you will get only 1 Fragmento de Val'anyr a week.
A NORMAL run you will get 2-4 Fragmento de Val'anyr a week.
A GREAT RUN you will get 5+ (Max of 15) Fragmento de Val'anyr a week.

Expect to spend between 4-31 weeks in here depending on your luck. I have seen Val'anyr, o Martelo dos Reis Antigos completed in as little as 5 weeks and as much as 18 weeks.

- Note 2 -
Activating Hard Mode on General Vezax and Flame Leviathan is not worth the time / energy / Wipes due to stupid people. Trade PUGS still wipe on Hard mode Flame Leviathan and many will leave after one wipe. Don't frustrate yourself and your raid, just kill them on "Normal". Every other bosses Hard mode can be zerged down.

- Note 3 -
For a quick run, you'll need at least 4-5 level 90 DPS. Any non cloth class can "tank" the bosses and for the most part you dont need a healer (only Hard Mode XT will test your survival skills if the DPS is low). The more DPS the better. The fastest I completed a run was in 30 minutes with 12 DPS. No boss lived for more than 30 secs.

- Note 4 -
When forming your group be sure to inform all raid members that all Fragmento de Val'anyr are reserved and if the run will do all the Meta achievements. If you can not full up the raid with guild members, a message formatted like this in /2 (trade) will work :

LFM ULDAR 25 Transmog / Achievement / Mount run. This is NOT a Meta run however we will get most of them. Fragmento de Val'anyr are reserved. Mimiron's Head is NOT reserved and will/can be rolled on.

This will stop messages from people asking about the Fragmento de Val'anyr, if its a Meta run and It will inform everyone that all Fragmento de Val'anyr will be going to you. (Thanks Saqib for the Mount tip)

- Note 5 -
Fragmento de Val'anyr CAN NOT BE TRADED AFTER THEY ARE LOOTED, HOWEVER for some reason EVERY CLASS AND SPEC CAN ROLL ON IT. GMs may be able to trade it to you if a PUG troll rolls on it but I wont count on it. Be sure to remind your group at each boss that EACH and EVERY Fragmento de Val'anyr are reserved and they NEED to PASS on them or they will be REMOVED from the group. If a player(s) starts needing on them, Removed them from the group or set it on Masterloot. PUG asshats will usually attempt to ninja the Fragmento de Val'anyr from Yogg-Saron (or Algalon the Observer who ever you do last), It may be safer to switch it to Masterloot on the last Boss.

Good luck

Comentado por AveryZan

I'm going to be honest and granted my luck is pretty bad. (3 weeks of full clears I got 1 extra besides the guaranteed off yogg). I see 3 ways of doing this
1. Pug a group make sure shards are reserved for you. I'm not really into doing the whole recruit random people from trade/ OQthing but that probably is the best way to get this done in the shortest amount of weeks.

As someone said below me unless you are confident in the people in your group (most people are terrible at battle tanks), just do flame leviathon on normal. To do flame leviathon on hard talk to the golem guy when you first enter and dont the 4 towers on the sides. General Vezax really isn't that difficult if people understand they need to wait on the saronites to build up and not kill any to start hard mode, if they are impatient or bad just zerg it like normal.

2. Small group of friends. I managed to 2 man most of them with a friend. These are the strats we did and honestly they were mostly just zergfests.

Flame Leviathon: I really recommend just setting this fight to 10 man and doing it normal by talking to Brand (you do not have to destroy the side towers if you talk to brand to start the event), it is a lot easier and less time consuming for a chance at 1 shard. Grab a couple of demos, stack pyrite on the boss and it will be dead in like 15 seconds. Zone out and set it for 25 man.

Razorscale: Doesn't have a hard mode, just make sure to fire off the harpoons when they become active and kill adds.

Ignis: no hard mode just kill him as fast as you can move out of fire.

X.T.: To activate the hard mode you must kill the heart before that phase ends, if it dies the boss will full heal and hard mode will begin. This point you want to blow all cds and kill quickly as possible. Earth quake still hits pretty hard so use healing and defensive cds as you need. The bots that approach the boss can be aoed down or ignored honestly if your damage is good enough.

Iron Council: Kill the big guy last to activate "hard mode" He will put a debuff on a player that gives a 200 percent damage increase and kill the player when it ends, no avoiding this outside of maybe bubble or something. Don't forget to rez your friend after the fights over and they die!

Algalon: No hard mode, dps as hard as you can, he hits fairly hard. 1 player will be phased out if you are too slow to kill. 1 person has to stay out for big bang and live through it the ability happens.

Kologarn: I'm not even sure if this qualifies as a hard mode tbh, but bassically just kill both arms and zerg him. He was the only one that dropped a fragement for me outside of Yogg.

Auriaya: No hard mode kill adds kill her.

Hodir: Again not sure if it's a hard mode but if you kill him before 3 minutes you will get 2 chests instead of 1.

Freya: Leave the mini bosses up, you can clear the trash not sure if it's required but better to be safe imo. Zerg her if adds come out they have to die around the same time.

Thorim: Assuming you have 2 people 1 person stays down and fights in the main room, the other uses the lever and rushes through the Gaunlet as fast as possible clearing the mini bosses. Watch out for the circles towards the end they will trap you and its pretty much gg. If you do this in under 3 mins it activates hard mode.

Mimiron: Hit the red button. This one gave us a bit of trouble as 2 melee, it is much easier if you have at least 1 ranged to hit the top part of him on the final part. First 2 parts just kill and try to survive the abilities, shockblast rockets fire all do a lot of damage. third part kill the helicopter thing, easier for ranged, there is a robot that spawns kill it and loot it for an item to throw at the head and it will come down on the ground making it easier for melee to kill. Final phase every part of the body has to die. If you are both melee start with the top as it is the hardest to get down get it low, then work on the rest and burn them all down.

General Vezax. Somewhat tricky and might be worth skipping depending on your comp. You let 6 of these things build up and form an add kill it than kill the boss.

Yogg 0: My friend and I 2 man this on multiple chars First make sure no one has talked to any of the npcs after you beat them. Begin the fight by killing adds on top of the girl, they need to be on her so she takes damage, clouds can spawn more adds if you want to get through this faster. Part 2 stay together I can't stress this enough, almost immediately one person will be constricted and will need help getting out. walk around together killing tentacles corruptions are priority after constricting, stun interupt zerg these fast, try to dispell any debuffs your comp can it will help a lot. when the portals open wait for the constrictor to go out, break whoever is in it then go in together. clear the room, then get on the brain. Do not use cds here, with adequate dps you should be fine getting it down. Final Phase is a bit hectic try to just zerg Yogg, turn away during gaze to avoid losing sanity. Not as difficult as I was expecting.

3 My last and personal strat for collecting these because I am lazy is this, Just use a save and only do Yogg 0. You will get at least 1 shard every time. The best way to get a save I have found is by clearing up to Vezax on 10 and having an alt come in for general Vezax. After this exit, flip to 25 do yogg 0. Next week just use the alt to extend the raid lock out and keep doing yogg 0 til you are done. Good way to farm the mount as well.

However you decide to do this chain GL!

Comentado por Sasquacz

For all those wondering why no fragments drops, GM confirmed that FRAGMENT FROM YOG'SARON IS NOT GUARANTED ANYMORE. U can get 0 fragments in run.

Comentado por 968833

Can confirm that these still drop.

I did a run and only got one to drop and it was from 25hm Mimiron.

Comentado por 624821

I've decided to put out a little guide on how I've managed to solo all bosses.

Flame Leviathan (With Hard Mode)
How to activate hard mode:
Talk to Lore Keeper Norgannon and have him activate secondary security measures.
How to do the fight:

This fight is fairly simple. Just hop in a Salvaged Demolisher and go straight towards the boss. Ignore the adds and towers as they are pretty much just a waste of time now. Kill the adds in front of the gate at the end of the gauntlet and the boss will "spawn".

The easiest way I've found to kill Flame Leviathan is to use Hurl Pyrite Barrel doing massive damage, and placing an even more destructive stacking debuff on it. DO NOT SPAM HURL PYRITE BARREL. Use at least TWO Hurl Boulder casts in between each Pyrite Barrel. This will allow the debuff time to tick a couple of times before you refresh the DoT as well as increasing the damage the DoT will do with its additional stack. If you do not space out your Hurl Pyrite Barrel casts, you will be about 20-30 million damage short of killing the boss and will more than likely die.

The boss is dead, hooray! Go get yer phat loots!

Ignis the Furnace Master (No Hard mode)

How to do the fight:

This boss is easy and isn't much of a check for anything. He has roughly 10 million health on 25 man and goes down fairly easy. No explanation is really needed. If you aren't pulling massive DPS, just remember to not stand in the fire.

Razorscale (No Hard Mode)

How to do the fight:
Again, this boss is fairly simple. Just run around killing dwarves until the FOUR turrets become active. Once the turrets are repaired, fire all four of them and bring him/her down. He has 6.5 million health, and your only real threat is not meeting his soft enrage as solo. If you reach 10 stacks of Fuse Armor, you are pretty much stunned for nearly 1 minute and will probably get poked to death.

XT-002 De-constructor (With Hard Mode)

How to activate hard mode:
XT-002 will reveal his "heart" shortly after losing approximately 25% of his health. When his heart comes out, you have roughly 30 seconds to kill it to activate the hardmode.

How to do the fight:
There isn't much explanation to the fight. Upon killing the heart, XT-002 will regenerate all his health, as well as receiving a maximum health increase. Most of the abilities XT-002 does do minor damage. The only potential threat at the moment is Searing Light, which at the time I post this, does typically around 2,000-3,000 damage every second for 9 seconds. This can prove to be quite a problem and is a DPS check for most classes without any kind of self-heals. Other than that, it is a flat out burn on the boss, with the exception of any repair bots that may come to XT-002s aid.

Assembly of Iron (With Hard Mode)

How to activate hard mode:
Kill Steelbreaker last.

How to do the fight:
As with most fights in Ulduar at this level, there really isn't a needed strategy. Just smack the crap out of those dwarves and get your loot. (I suppose you can stand in the blue rune for a DPS buff if you want)

Kologarn AKA Santa Claus (No Hard Mode)

How to do the fight:
The only real threat in this fight is that the Right Arm will use the ability Stone Grip which can pretty much result in a wipe when you are by yourself. At the start of the fight, if you aren't confident in your DPS, just quickly kill his Right Arm, then go back to smacking the crap out of Santa for not giving you that bicycle you wanted for Christmas.

Auriaya AKA Crazy Cat Lady (No Hard Mode)

How to do the fight:
KILL THE CATS! KILL EM ALL! Okay, well, really it isn't necessary, but I find it hard to avoid as they typically die from a single AoE hit. Anyway, back on point... Auriaya, you guessed it, just bludgeon her to death. (Or stab if you didn't bring a blunt object) She may occasionally fear you. It isn't a real concern, just a minor annoyance. Resume killing her once its over. She'll also cast Sentinel Blast which is interruptable, but not a requirement by any means.

Freya (With Hard Mode)

How to activate hard mode:
Don't kill any of the giant tree bosses hanging out in the corners of the room.

How to do the fight:
This fight can be a bit tedious, especially by yourself. Ignoring if you can burst Freya down quicker then she can initially heal herself, the strategy is fairly simple. Freya will summon adds one of four adds. A giant tree, which will pacify you until you hide under the mushrooms that he spawns with him. A group of little flowers, just aoe them down. A Lifebinder, which restores stacks of Freyas Attuned to Nature buff, just kill it before this happens. Three elemental plant guys... They have to die within 2-3 seconds of each other or they respawn. Upon killing any of her adds (Except the lifebinder) Freya will lose stacks of Attuned to Nature, which reduces how much health she periodically restores. Just keep at her until she loses enough stacks that she dies.

Thorim (With Hard Mode)

How to activate hard mode:
RUN! GET TO THE BOSS! QUICKLY! Okay, maybe not that fast. You have around two minutes to traverse the gauntlet and get to Thorim.

How to do the fight:
With recent changes, this fight will no longer reset if you attempt to go through the hallways up to Thorim. Just be sure you pull the lever to open the gate before he starts summoning dwarves. After that, its smooth sailing. Go run up to Thorim and give him a hug... with your fists!

Hunter/Warlock Notice: I suggest setting your pets to "Stay" in one spot. It is a major inconvenience to have your pet running down to get to the boss the long way.

Hodir (With Hard Mode... Sorta?)

How to activate hard mode... Sorta:
Kill Hodir within three minutes.

How to do the fight:
Free up all the little guys frozen in ice. They put down some nice buffs. (50% haste for the lightbeam, and/or a stacking debuff on the boss increasing magic damage) Just hang out in/near the lightbeams/campfire and melt his face. Eventually Hodir will use Flash Freeze, when this happens he will also summon a giant pile of snow for you to stand on, to avoid getting frozen. Be careful not to stand on it to soon, as you can get knocked off it by the falling ice.

Mimiron (With Hard Mode)

How to activate hard mode:
PUSH THE BIG RED BUTTON!

How to do the fight:
Beat the crap out of robots. Duh! Okay, there are two things you need to be aware of. The first is Rocket Strife. This ability will be indicated by a red beam placed at the feet of a player. (Yes, YOU) Move out of it, or you'll probably die. The second things is that during the final phase you need to kill all three of the robot body parts at the same time, or they heal.

General Vezaxx (With Hard Mode)

How to activate hard mode:
DON'T KILL HIM YET! Let 6 Saronite Vapors spawn. This will make a Saronite Animus spawn.

How to do the fight:
Not much to it. Just let the Saronite grow. Once the Animus spawns, Vezax becomes immune. Kill the Animus, and then swap back to Vezax.

Yogg-Saron (With Hard Mode)

How to activate hard mode:
The hard mode depends on how many watchers you have helping you with the fight. The fight is possibly do-able on hardmode with Freya as your only guardian.

How to do the fight:
Phase 1: Kill the adds near Sara
Phase 2: AoE down the grabbing tentacle. Go into the brain portal when it spawns. Kill adds inside. KILL THE BRAIN!
Phase 3: Kill Yogg-Saron. Turn away when he casts

Comentado por jmrusso731

Solo' d last night with hard modes done on FL, Keepers, and 2 light on Yogg. Got one fragment and that was from Yogg. Not sure if the drop rate was lowered or I had a bad rng run.

Comentado por DonCorleone

Yesterday I startet my first solo Ulduar 25 run as a lvl 100 paladin. Since I wanted to maximize the number of fragments gained, I tried to figure out how to do the hard modes. So, while doing my run I had the idea of making a short video guide for you. Maybe this video can help you on your journey to this awesome legendary mace :)

Comentado por 308599

Ulduar 25-man is ridiculously easy to solo now even on hard modes.

Pretty much every boss you can simply DPS down. You only need to be aware of mechanics necessary to activate the hard modes (ie destroy xt's heart, press the big red button on mimiron, etc).

Yogg Saron with 0 helpers is the only one that is tricky. And the tricky part is just making sure you get through his dream fast enough before he removes all your sanity. He is the only boss that might take you more than one attempt.

Comentado por ropiv

I agree with some others about the drop rate. It has either been lowered, or RNG is massively on the insane side right now.

As of 2 weeks ago, I had 23 fragments. Had taken about 2 weeks off from running it. Did it this past weekend, and only got 1 drop -- from the last boss. Tried today, and the same thing -- just one fragment, on the last boss.

Both were set to 25 man. One run was normal, and the other was as "hard" as I could make it.

The drop rate has never been great, but there's never been a run where I had less than 3 drop. Good luck to anyone just starting this.

Comentado por 792030

I will just let everyone know, that you can't get to next step if you are not one of the required classes that can use the mace, you can't get to next step of the quest aswell... Meaning even though you got all 30 fragments as a warrior, you can't create the quest for the next step to obtain it! I learned the hard way while farming mount x)

Comentado por 1138632

A lot of talks about lowering the drop rates...
should it make a difference if you went with more people?

Comentado por 140590

A whole run of 25 man HMs.... only got the 1 fragment from guaranteed Yogg.... not my best run :(

Comentado por Sinascendant

Drop rate has NOT been nerfed, guys. You just have bad RNG. I have been consistently getting 4-5 a run, and Zarhym has confirmed that it has never been changed.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/18704215399#13

Comentado por 1096795

I'm running this on a ret paladin a shadow priest and a combat rogue (for the mount) but thought I'd collect the fragments on the rogue just to see who gets there first, (the rogue had 16 in 3 runs, but I've not been as diligent on running her as the others seeing she wont be able to complete the quest) my paladin is 4 away and it seems to me that the drop rate is a little better if you focus on hard mode mechanics. My paladin and rogue can do most of the hard mode stuff easily enough, but the priest...not so much, which could explain why she's in last place. ...then again it could just be crappy RNG.

Comentado por Dwarwen

Guys fragment possible to drop 2x on Hodir's loot box.

GoodLuck.

https://s15.postimg.org/6w9of5szv/aass.png

Comentado por Settra

As of Legion being released i can confirm that the drop rate has been NERFED TO THE BALLS! Ran it 3 times since release and have not received a single Fragment, Only from Yogg... Sooo angry considering i need 2 more.

Comentado por borek921

Looks like they buffed the drop rate again. Last week I got out with 4 fragments and now I'm at Kologarn with two of them.

Comentado por Calucias

Easy Guide on how to get this legendary!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZZRjm4l_Ag

Comentado por toppjubei

From my experience over the last few months, you're pretty much guaranteed a fragment from Yogg Saron, and if you're lucky you'll get at least one fragment from one of the other bosses. So you should be able to get all 30 in 15 weeks or 3-4 months. Make sure to do hard modes to increase your chances (speculation.)

EDIT: Since writing this comment, I've done two runs that yielded 4 fragments each.

FURTHER EDIT: When I only needed 4 more fragments I got them all with 5 bosses left on one run, so even if no more bosses yielded any, Yogg would have given one, giving me a total of 5 for one run.

Comentado por Cutthroat

Has anyone else noticed a change in drop-rates since Ulduar was incorporated into Timewalking and since you can't manually change 10/25-man mode anymore? I've done a total of 4 runs with different characters in the past 2 resets and in all those runs, Yogg-Saron was the only boss to drop a single Fragment, despite doing all bosses' hardmodes (except General).

Maybe I'm just incredibly unlucky, but it feels odd to happen quite consistently across several characters since the change.

(Edit: Obviously this was 10m, since it automatically is set to 10m nowadays. So my question probably should be: any way to get more shards other than actually having enough bodies for 25m?)

Comentado por EdyG

~~So are these removed from the game now?~~

I had wrote the above after running it on 6 toons which could not use them, but prior to TW ulduar they would drop if you could use them or not. I just now finished a run on my druid and got 3, including 1 from yog. Not great but still better than 0. Seems they literally only drop if you can actually use them now, which will also lower the % here on wowhead for them falsely.

TLDR They do still drop, but unless you can use them they don't exist in the loot tables.

Comentado por CRYPTsakura

My anger is something i can't describe here in polite way.... so i will try to CALM DOWN truly hardly and just say... 3 weeks for last 3 shards for me... Blizzard REALLY?

This is just JOKE normal 10 man raid.....!

Edit:// writing this comment while missing last shard... so that would be mine 3rd week.... I am sick of this!

Comentado por Mehet

Did this today, got 3 fragments. One each from Auryia, Fryea, and Yogg (did all hardmodes)

Edit: following week I got 8 (two from Mim)

Comentado por maximef1

Did a solo run today (10man, can't force 25man anymore). Did all the hard modes and here's the loot:

1 from Yoggy. That's it.

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