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Comentado por 67659

This item is going to be able to create by scribers (players with inscription as a proffesion). There is going to be 8 different kinds of these cards, and can be put together to form a deck, and turned in for items that will be like Darkmoon Card: , that has been able to find in both the original game and the burning crusade.

This will be equal to the lvl 80 cards.

Comentado por Mongatsumi

Actually, this will probably create random cards of the Northrend Darkmoon Card sets. It seems that it is following the other two abilities like this.

Darkmoon Card

Beasts - Darkmoon Card: Blue Dragon
Elementals - Darkmoon Card: Maelstrom
Portals - Darkmoon Card: Twisting Nether
Warlords - Darkmoon Card: Heroism

Greater Darkmoon Card

Darkmoon Card of the North

Nobles - Darkmoon Card: Greatness - Strength Agility Spirit Intellect
Prisms - Darkmoon Card: Illusion
Undeath - Darkmoon Card: Death
Chaos - Darkmoon Card: Berserker!

Comentado por bithalver

From the possible 4, there are http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=42988 and http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44253 found so far.

Comentado por grimholt

Darkmoon Card of the North

Nobles - Dark moon Card: Greatness (note: you'll be able to choose from four diffrent versions; 90 agi., 90 str., 90 spr., or 90 int.)

Prisms - Darkmoon Card: Illusion

Undeath - Darkmoon Card: Death

Chaos - Darkmoon Card: Berserker!

Comentado por 244352

Darkmoon Card: Death
Each time you deal damage, you have a chance to do an additional 744 to 956 Shadow damage.

Search for "Darkmoon Card" then look under "Uncaterorgised spells"

Comentado por 242583

i got one called Darkmoon Card: Chaos

Comentado por 259178

Oh and another thing.

Will these cards solely be obtainable through inscription?.

If they start dropping off mobs the exorbitant cost will make it not worth crafting them.

Comentado por 42766

Northrend Darkmoon cards can only be made through inscriptions now. No more drops.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=29563.0

Comentado por karti

seeing how single cards of nobles go for 700g each on the server of Taerar, this could eben be used for earning money..

Comentado por 251999

Darkmoon Card of the North

-1 Resilient Parchment
-6 Snowfall Ink
-3 Eternal Life
-3 Ink of the Sea

Sub Mats for 6 Snowfall Ink and 3 Ink of the Sea
-18 Icy Pigment

Comentado por 104162

This will require an average 87 crafts to turn out a full Deck.

Comentado por glued

Does this have a cooldown?

Comentado por 256956

I made a video of me making 331 cards in one sitting for anyone interested. This was when 3.08 came out and I had about 21,000 Ink of the sea to hand in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUMGpaUHyTE&

Comentado por Zenero

Has a 3 second cast time in patch 3.1 :-)

Comentado por 5904

Am I missing something or is making this the only way to get to 450 Inscription skill?

Comentado por 239042

You got the four different scrolls you can create from Inscription level 405.

After that, you only have the Darkmoon Card of the North which turns green at 450, and gray at 475, which isnt relevant as it looks now, when the level cap is 450.
Though you are right, it is the only way to turn 450.

Comentado por 266010

any know if the Card explot still works? - that is : you fill your bags completly up so no space is left. Once you get the card you want you remove 1 item and out it in that spot (again making bags full) and then keep crafting till the card you want pops up - empty a slot, put card there - repeat to get desired deck.

havnt heard from any1 knowing if it works still as of 3.0.9

Comentado por 118697

I've done some simulations regarding how many cards you have to make (on average) to get a certain deck and the mats for it.

I've done 10 000 simulations for each step and here are the results:
To get all cards of a certain deck you need to make an average of 87 (86.944) cards.

To make 87 cards you need:

You can either get Snofall Ink from 10 Ink of the Sea (20 pigments) or 2 Icy Pigment. Let's make 1 Icy Pigment "worth" 10 Azure Pigments to make the simulation easier. We then need 21 402 Azure Pigments to craft 87 cards.

Deadnettle has a 100% chance to mill for 2-3 Azure pigments (mean value of 2.5) and 25% chance to drop 1-3 Icy Pigment (mean value of 2). Using the above conversion rate this makes Deadnettle mill for (on average) 2.5 Azure Pigments and 25% chance to mill for an additional 20 Azure Pigments. Simulating this 10 000 times gives us the following results:
To get 21 402 Azure Pigments (which can be converted into 1 044 Snowfall Ink and 261 Ink of the Sea) we need to mill an average of 14275 Deadnettle.

If we mill Icethorn instead we have a 100% chance to mill for 2-4 Azure Pigment and 50% chance to mill for 1-3 Icy Pigment. Using the same conversion as above we get 3 Azure Pigments and 50% chance to mill for an additional 20 Azure Pigments. With 10 000 simulations the results are:
To get 21 402 Azure Pigments (which can be converted into 1 044 Snowfall Ink and 261 Ink of the Sea) we need to mill an average of 8 238 Icethorn.

Which herb you choose to mill is up to you, buying the 14 275 Deadnettle from AH would be cheaper than buying 8 238 Icethorn on my server, I have no clue about which would be faster to farm.

Source code for the Python scripts used for simulation:
#!/usr/bin/python
# decksim.py -- call with python decksim.py
import random, sys

SIMULATIONS = 10000
if len( sys.argv ) == 2:
SIMULATIONS = int( sys.argv )

# Four decks with 8 cards in each deck
cards = ( 'A1', 'A2', 'A3', 'A4', 'A5', 'A6', 'A7', 'A8',
'B1', 'B2', 'B3', 'B4', 'B5', 'B6', 'B7', 'B8',
'C1', 'C2', 'C3', 'C4', 'C5', 'C6', 'C7', 'C8',
'D1', 'D2', 'D3', 'D4', 'D5', 'D6', 'D7', 'D8', )

crafts = 0
print "Starting simulation"
for i in xrange( SIMULATIONS ):
sys.stdout.write( "\r" )
sys.stdout.write( "Performing simulation %d out of %d".ljust( 30 ) % ( i + 1, SIMULATIONS ) )
sys.stdout.flush()
deck =
while deck != sought:
crafts += 1
card = random.choice( cards )
if card in sought and not card in deck:
deck.append( card )
deck.sort()
print ""
print "It took on average %f crafts to get a full deck" % ( float( crafts ) / SIMULATIONS )
#!/usr/bin/python
# herbsim.py -- call with python herbsim.py
import random, sys

SIMULATIONS = 10000

target = 21402
if len( sys.argv ) > 1:
target = int( sys.argv );
if len( sys.argv ) == 3:
SIMULATIONS = int( sys.argv )
deadnettle = ( 2.5, 2.5, 2.5, 22.5 )
icethorn = ( 3, 23 )
dnMills = 0
itMills = 0

print "Starting simulation of deadnettle"
for i in xrange( SIMULATIONS ):
sys.stdout.write( "\r" )
sys.stdout.write( "Performing simulation %d out of %d".ljust( 30 ) % ( i + 1, SIMULATIONS ) )
sys.stdout.flush()
herbs = 0.0
while herbs < target:
dnMills += 1
herbs += random.choice( deadnettle )

print ""
print "Starting simulation of icethorn"
for i in xrange( SIMULATIONS ):
sys.stdout.write( "\r" )
sys.stdout.write( "Performing simulation %d out of %d".ljust( 30 ) % ( i + 1, SIMULATIONS ) )
sys.stdout.flush()
herbs = 0.0
while herbs < target:
itMills += 1
herbs += random.choice( icethorn )

print ""
print "It took on average %f deadnettle or %f icethorn to get %d pigments" % ( 5.0 * dnMills / SIMULATIONS, 5.0 * itMills / SIMULATIONS, target )

Comentado por 367675

I dont know how to do all that fancy simulation/programming stuff, however I have the mats ready to make 100 in one go. Will update on how it turns out.

*Note* All of these were farmed myself, for this little project, just herbing day and night. I only milled Lichbloom and Icethorn. Apologies for no milling stats for those, I didn't think about doing so until now. Perhaps when I will when I do this again in a few months.

Okay, 600 Snowfall Inks, 300 Ink of the Sea, 300 Eternal Life's, and 100 Resilient Parchments later, here are the results...
Undeath
A x5
2 x4
3 x0
4 x1
5 x1
6 x5
7 x1
8 x2

Prisms
A x3
2 x3
3 x3
4 x1
5 x2
6 x1
7 x8
8 x4

Chaos
A x4
2 x3
3 x7
4 x2
5 x3
6 x5
7 x2
8 x5

Nobles
A x2
2 x3
3 x3
4 x2
5 x3
6 x0
7 x3
8 x1

Seems that Chaos came out on top this time, We'll see what happens in a month =)

Comentado por darkanima270

Yesterday night and Tonight i've farmed enough herbs for make 24 Cards, i've obteined 9 nobles cards
Ace - 2
Two - 0
Three - 2
Four - 2
Five - 0
Six - 1
Seven - 1
Eight - 1
Also i've gained 48 Frost Lotus and sold for 40g each in ah, 1900 gold. with these money i have buyed the other 2 cards remain for my deck and i've completed it, and probably i'll sell the double card during the event Darkmoon Faire
8000 gold (in my server) in 7 total hours in Sholazar Basin! the best place for farm these cards
(adder tongues = 50% icy Pigment)
anyway if u need to make some money, go to herbalize everythink in sholazar and get ready to be rich!

Last Think....you will need to have some lucky :P

Comentado por Belse

With a lot of money you can make even more from this. At least in theory. What you need is the auctioneer addon which shows both the average price of the cards and the average material price.

Check the average price of all cards you can get and add these prices together. Then you divide it by 32 and if the number you get is greater than the price of the mats you can make them with an almost safe profit.

Of course there is a chance that you are unlucky and will only get a bunch of prisms cards but if you make enough cards the odds are that you will make a profit. But most people who have sucessfully made the amounts of money to do this should have figured it out themselves but just saying it in case somebody missed it.

Comentado por 70814

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#1 best way to farm Azure Pigment.

---Start near 69,27--- and work your way up, then cross over to 83,29
After that work your way around the middle a little bit, checking around the temples on the east side
Then the trees all around Har'Koa usually have 4-6 herbs
Alter of Sseratus usually has 4-6 herbs around there
Working your way north to Alter of Rhunok, 4-6 more herbs
Zul'Maz Stronghold usually has 4-6 herbs
---Restart at 69,27--- and re-circle.

This is the best place because of how close the herbs are together. They are Frozen herbs, and around the trees near the Gundrak Flight Path, often there are 1-2 herbs per tree. By the time you make the circle, all of the herbs are back, and they are so close together that you get a ton of herbs. Off of two complete circles, I get somewhere near 30 Ink of the Sea's, and a couple Icy pigments (Frozen mostly give Goldclover, Tigerlily and that Tundra rose thingy). Not good for selling, but amazing for ink-gathering. I use this to make ink for my AH glyphs. Amazingly short herb route with amazing turn out, and I have never seen anyone else farming it.

Comentado por 30736

You're one of those who believe that if you farm mats yourself then they are worthless? You could mine all the ore required to make a piece of armour, then craft the armour and you would consider the cost of that armour to be zero? You would be wrong. Just because you didn't buy the materials to make it, those materials still have raw monetary value.

Maybe you should read up on basic economics before voting down my post and if you are going to disagree then please state your reasons why

Biggest load of rubbish I ever saw written.

is not a sufficient reason

Comentado por 455924

Hey guys! I'd like to add my results too. I'm farming DMF rep for "the Insane" title, so I bought 242 stacks of adder's tongue, and 192 Eternal Life. Let's see the results.

Of Nobles Cards:
Ace: 1
Two: 2
Three: 0
Four: 2
Five: 0
Six: 7
Seven: 2
Eight: 2

Of Prism Cards
Ace: 3
Two: 1
Three: 3
Four: 3
Five: 0
Six: 2
Seven: 2
Eight: 4

Of Undeath Cards
Ace: 1
Two: 4
Three: 3
Four: 1
Five: 2
Six: 2
Seven: 1
Eight: 1

Of Chaos Cards
Ace: 1
Two: 2
Three: 0
Four: 1
Five: 1
Six:2
Seven: 4
Eight: 4

Total: 64 cards
Nobles: 16 cards
Prism: 18 cards
Undeath: 16 cards
Chaos: 14 cards

For me, its seems kinda balanced.

Comentado por ZidjiN

Ive tryed that and it DOESNT work. Not on my server anyway.
Most cards dont sell at all. I get around 100g for a complete deck (other then nobles) if im lucky. Atm i have three chaos decks on the ah at 80g each, they have been there for weeks.

What you could do though is to calculate that every other card then nobles equal 0. Then you would probably get a better estimate.

Comentado por acapela

more and more, this "gambling" (remember Diablo2?) on the drop rates on these cards is looking insuperably slow and "expensive" to me.

my scribe has cranked 200+ cards at this point (over the months), and i would say 40% of them have been either two of chaos, seven of chaos, or five of prisms (none of which sell, much less sell for enough to help defray the "expense" of making these cards). i have not been able to complete even one nobles deck yet, nor enough spare nobles cards to support the purchase/trade for the cards i still need to complete that single partial deck.

i hate to say it, but given the (apparently) capricious nature of the distribution of these cards (which seems weighted decisively towards dreck to me), and the time/effort/expense of generating them relative to their current cost on the AH (finished nobles decks sell reliably for around 4000g on my server), i am convinced that it makes more sense to sell the materials derived from the farming i am doing now (herbalism/mining, on different characters), accumulate the gold, and then just buy finished decks.

Comentado por domaz

Talk about luck.

I made 20 Darkmoon card of the north, and 7 of them was 7 different noble cards.

Uploaded a screenshot of it - hope it gets approved.

Comentado por 255359

For scribes that mill hundreds of herbs each week to mass-produce glyphs, you cannot GIVE away Snowfall inks. There are only a few sinks to use them for and DMCs is one. The only really significant cost is the Eternal Lifes which go for ~20g on my server... or 400g/sack. Individual Nobles cards usually sell for at least that. So, crafting these can actually be somewhat profitable if you can get the lifes for a good price.

Trying to sell the individual cards from other decks is almost futile... just sit on them until you can create a whole deck, you will have better success.

Comentado por RottweilerCP

Darkcanuck99 is absolutely right. I probably make 10-20 snowfall inks a day and might sell 5 a week for about 18g each. I was putting together a Ret set for my Wife's Pally since she recently took it up as her off spec and noticed the Darkmoon card was still the #6 BiS trinket and since she's not ready to raid ICC or even spend Emblems of Frost on one it's the best she can do for a while. So I decided to try to make her the deck after reading all the info here. I had the following results:

100 cards

Prism: 22
1 # 7
2 # 3
3 # 4
4 # 1
5 # 4
6 # 1
7 # 0
8 # 2

Estimated Worth: 1,319g

Chaos: 26
1 # 2
2 # 5
3 # 5
4 # 2
5 # 5
6 # 3
7 # 1
8 # 3

Estimated Worth: 1,139g

Undeath: 31
1 # 5
2 # 1
3 # 3
4 # 2
5 # 5
6 # 4
7 # 8
7 # 3

Estimated Worth: 2,455g

Nobles: 21
1 # 2
2 # 3
3 # 2
4 # 1
5 # 0
6 # 4
7 # 6
8 # 3

Estimated worth: 12,262g

Total estimated worth: 17,175g

Not quite even, not a full Nobles deck, heck only 2 full decks, but not bad. I doubt I'll sell the cards for that much and I don't know the average deck prices. I know I've seen the nobles deck offered in trade for 4-5k. I would estimate my cost at 15g/stack of herbs, Icethorn or Adder's Tongue, and 20g per eternal life. And I'd say I average 1 snowfall ink per stack of herbs, so:

600 x 15g = 9,000g (Snowfall)
+300 x 20g = 6,000g (Eternal)
+100 x 50s = 50g (Parchment)
------------------------------
Total Cost = 15,050g

So even if I'm a couple thousand short on sales I'll break even. And I still have a couple thousand extra ink of the sea to make glyphs that sell for 10-50g each. All-in-all a very worthwhile venture.

Comentado por 168688

I know the answer to this is most likely "no" but I'm taking a shot. Do these completed decks still earn Darkmoon Fair rep, or is it now only the new Destruction sets that are for rep?

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