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Comentado por Shoat

This will totally rock for Tanking loads of little Mobs (or soloing level 60 raids).
The Damage Absorb Proc may not be really useful for hard hitting 80 Raid bosses, but the 111 Stamina will.

This is definitely a fine Tanking Trinket in General.

Comentado por Sounder

Proc chance 2% if you click through the proc description.

Really nice passive benefit, especially for aoe tanking.

Comentado por 178410

This DOES look like a great tank trinket, and should go to them first and foremost.
BUT, this looks like a very nice trinket for any class in PvP.
If your tank already has this, or doesn't need it, try to grab it if you PvP a lot!

Comentado por 225816

+111 stamina. Holy &*!@. That's 1765 health in Bear!

Comentado por 96549

I'm guessing with the 2% proc rate that there is no internal cooldown associated with this trinket?

Comentado por 153225

Okay, while we can all agree that the 111 stamina is downright a godsend for tanking once you've got yourself past the 540 defense delight for tanking mobs 3 levels above you, let's also take a good look at the actual proc effect.

A shield, but not just shield like Power Word: Shield, this one still lets damage get through. So, though it won't save your life from any immediately powerful blows, the small bits that it does shave off may be just what your healer needs to avoid having you die before he can get a spell off. But wait, there's more. Meanwhile, as a Warrior/Bear Tank, you're still getting rage from those attacks instead of having them completely absorbed, meaning that even when it does proc you won't be getting rage starved for that 111 stamina.

Edit: 540 def, at 80, not 490 X3

Comentado por Nuker

You can consider this as http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27770 version 2.0 (except that the damage shield is passive instead of "on use."

Very nice tanking trinket until you get into heavier fights. 111 Stam is godly for a non-epic trinket at this point.

Comentado por 182830

45 seconds hidden cooldown.

Comentado por 235651

What about the JC ones?
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42341
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44063

those can be socketed for more stamina, one has the dodge plus since your a JC you can actualy get it to about 150 stamina but thats not worth saying cuz if you use the 111 trinket you would have the JC gems somehwere else, but still you can match the stamina or have other stats and less stamina.
I know not everybody is a JC but I am and not sure what to use, think ill keep all 3 and mix and match depending on other gear.
sockets are golden tho.
But not sure if the proc is better.

Edit: I now use the Monarch crab(for the dodge) and the Essence, have a regular stamina gem in one socket and a +41 stamina in the yellow socket, and I use my other 2 +41 stam's in my shoulders and my chest. Found this to be the best combo of trinkets due to the proc, I am all about avoidence. I keep sacred shield up all the time on myself, and Essence of Goss is just more dmg absorbed on tiop of that, and with almost 20% parry and 26% dodge(and more using monarch crab every minute) and whatever miss comes with that, and of course armor, talents etc....LOTS of dmg not being taken. Every little bit makes that better of a tank.....The ruby hare is just stam...I take this over ruby hare anyday.

Comentado por Bazar

This trinket's proc effect gives mitigation taken into account after armour.
Meaning if your getting hit for 200 damage after armor, then this trinket procs, you'll only be hit for 60 damage.

Comentado por 266206

Armed to the teeth increases AP not strength so it wouldnt increase shield slam damage since AP alone does not increase your block value or base shield slam damage.

Comentado por Thorhoof

I recently acquired this trinket. What a nice item!

But can anyone describe what the proc graphic looks like? With so many graphics going off at the same time nowadays, I've been unable to identify it. Also, what is the name of the proc when it shows up on your buffs bars?

Thanks!

Ror

Comentado por 94309

Who's Gossamer? The poor sod's essence is trapped in this trinket, and I don't know a thing about the former owner...

EDIT: I googled it. It's a word. Apparently I'm linguistically handicapped.

As Wikitionary puts it:

1. A fine film or strand as of cobwebs, floating in the air or caught on bushes etc.
2. A soft, sheer fabric.
3. Anything delicate, light and flimsy.

Makes sense, seeing as the trinket drops from a spider.

Comentado por 289206

I'm really curious about the people's takes on the comparison of these two trinkets.

Essence of Gossamer http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37220
Monarch Crab http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44063

If you put two +24 stam gems in the monarch crab that's +111 stamina (same as the essence of gossamer) which brings it down to the use on the crab and the proc on the essence.

Any thoughts on which is better? Any theory crafting or any of that good stuff? Obviously the one is a use and the other is a passive so one less thing to press if you use the essence, but let's not worry about that, just look strictly at the damage mitigation/avoidance.

I'm a prot paladin tank by the way.

Comentado por 274900

I'd say for a boss (single target) the crab is a lot better...even dodging 1 extra attack is more mitigation than the entire essence proc will absorb on a single target boss. Sure, there is a chance that no attacks will be dodged due to the crab, especially if the boss hits slow or casts, but surely the crab has more mitigation potential over the course of a boss fight. The Essence seems more useful on bosses that involve tanking a lot of trash where you probably wouldnt bother to click the crab trinket anyway unless you were going down...while the Essence is passively proccing the entire fight. Definitely for clearing trash I'd rather have the essence of gossamer equipped. Its really nice for those trash pulls when it procs, I've seen it absorb the full 4000 damage many times. Not necessary obviously, 4000 damage on easily healable trash pulls is definitely not vital. Of course, for a non-jewelcrafter that doesnt like clicking trinkets the essence is better....

Comentado por 93865

This trinket, like all reactive abilities such as Retribution Aura, does not proc off blocks or avoided attacks.

Therefore, a fully avoidant tank with enough block rating to block every attack he does not avoid outright will see this proc only when he gets knocked down, hit in the back, or (if a paladin) allows Holy Shield to fall off.

Comentado por veselu

Did AN HC like 10 times now, never dropped, maybe it will...

Comentado por 256077

I'm a DK tank and I have this trink but I don't see what's so good about it. +111 stam means I get 1k+ hp and with all the buff and whatnot, it can only add a maximum of 2k hp. I'm already taking 2k+ per hit from a mob in heroic if it hits me, and that's almost double of what this trink gives. Also, the shield only absords 4k dmg which is at most 2 hits or maybe even 1 boss hit.
Why not go for http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40683? Why not stack dodge (ignoring diminishing returns) instead of eating the attack?
I'm still quite new to tanking so I hope someone will explain the benefits of this trink. Thanks.

Comentado por kaziski

A note to PvPing priests:

Palavra de Poder: Escudo will NOT work properly with Essência de Teia Diáfana!

Palavra de Poder: Escudo buff is lost and will instead add another stack to the trinkets buff, absorbing 280 damage instead of 140.

For PvP this is a great loss due to not being able to use Palavra de Poder: Escudo to fully mitigate incoming damage while Essência de Teia Diáfana is up.

Comentado por 285085

Does this have a hidden cooldown? can procs happen while the same proc is active?

Comentado por 180986

Can't believe noone has said this yet..

This is the highest stamina trinket in the game.

List of highest stam trinkets in game

Not sure if the two JC stam figurines with dual Solid Sky Sapphires in them would pass this, but if they do it's not by much.

Comentado por 245586

Does this proc when struck by ranged and spell hits?

Comentado por TMWNN

A lot of tanks prefer proc to on use as they don't have to remember to click it when they're already concentrating on rotations, boss movement etc etc.

No, random procs are only worthwhile for DPS trinkets. This tank definitely prefers On Use for tanking trinkets. What's the point of a 4000-damage shield if I can't depend on it triggering during Anub'Rekhan's Locust Swarm or Patchwerk's 5% soft enrage or Maexxna's <30% web wrap?

Non-druid tanks, I strongly urge you to build a tanking gearset around Seal of the Pantheon--and its terrific On Use "panic button"--and Essence of Gossamer. Essence is a wonderful trinket, but only for the stamina contribution. Anyone relying on a 2% random proc to actually save himself during the tough moments of any boss fight is fooling himself.

Comentado por 45260

Proc has changed to 5% according to description

Comentado por 141045

Tank in the group already had this, so I thought it would be fun to try on in PvP. Utterly amazing for a warrior. The 111 stam is awesome for so much health and the damage reduction is very nice as well. Nice PvP toy. But I would NEVER take this over a tank, considering it's worth to a tank. You'd be on a bunch of people's ignore list.

Comentado por 145945

Looks like there is a grammar problem with this. It says "which will reduces damage", the problem being with "reduces", as it should be "reduce".

Comentado por 323816

I do a bit of tanking from time to time and would love to add this to my Prot set, but even when I'm specced Retribution I would seriosuly consider using this for soloing/PvP. Once you have a nice slow weapon, hit cap and a good strength score, the wise Paladin works on adding some extra survivability to the mix, and this beauty is just amazing, the stamina alone warrants the trinket slot, the shield proc is just icing.

Comentado por 328462

But who, or what, is Gossamer?

Comentado por Polamalu

Had this drop on an AN run yesterday, im still using TBC trinkets (Dabiri's and the SH one) i was delighted until the rogue i was with rolled need too and won it, his excuse was he needed it for PvP, now although it may be useful there i think to take it over any tank that needs it is idiotic.

Comentado por addohm

20%

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

I've run AN probably 4 dozen times (in total at level 80 doing only heroics), and have only seen this trinket drop once.

Comentado por 335460

Can anyone give me the odds of this dropping. I have run this 26 times and have NEVER seen it drop.

Comentado por Ellysium

I would say that for a tank the "Essence of Gossamer" which adds +111 Sta is priceless for the tank's HP stat. But afterall everyone enjoys his own playstyle and gear his character with the gear he consider to be the best to tank. So i guess all this is purely relative.

Comentado por 340239

I can't believe no one has mentioned how godly this trinket is for AoE pulling places like Stockades, Deadmines, well hell, any low level dungeon. It will proc every cooldown and 4k is nothing to sneeze at when you're dealing with like 100 mobs.

Comentado por 323689

I've done this boss 13 times on my paladin and I have seen this gem drop only once, is the chance of drop really 20%? Doesn't seem like it to me.

Comentado por darkadept

Did anyone else notice they changed the text on this? It used to say "up to a total of 4000 damage absorbed." I'm guessing this is a buff if this is no longer the case?

http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/september/8982/heroic_trinket_tank_essenceofgossamer.jpg

Comentado por 152565

you've all lost touch with your childhood....atleast anyone who believes this to be referenced to spider silk...while that could hold to be true...i hope not...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gossamer_(Looney_Tunes)

clearly his essence, i think the animation should be the same as an enrage animation such that you'd resemble Gossamer

Comentado por e13e7

DROP WHY WONT YOU DROP I HAVE GOTTEN THE GLOVES FOR 2 WEEKS STRAIGHT I AM CURSED

Comentado por 240371

Had this drop the other day in AN and the dps (boomkin) druid won it over me who was tanking and also needed it, excuse - "my moonkin dps spec is my off spec, so i did roll for my main spec"

Just be careful of people using duel specs as thier excuse to roll on gear that they need.

I can see duel spec causing alot of problems now in PUGs when it comes to loot.

Comentado por 164304

I have had this baby for some time now on my protadin, going nicely with monarch grab... atleast for some time. Lately i have seen strange numbers coming from SCT: hits that dont get blocked at all, but they have 140 damage absorbed on them. This seems out of place to me, as i cant believe that i get so huge streak of unblocked hits. Has anyone else noticed this? Busy week ahead of me, so i cant test it right away. If this trinket actually prevents blocking, then its huge nerf to protadins!

Comentado por 223475

Oddly only (4) four blue trinkets have +stamina http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37220, from alchemy http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44323, and the rest 2 of them are from JC http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42341 http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44063,

There are only (2) TWO epics that provide +stamina so far, both in Ulduar
and it is a bit! difficult to get http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45158 and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=46021

Some of these blues... are still preferred instead of the epic ones with NO stamina bonuses, because they have! +stamina and some even have sockets for even more bonuses

trinkets for tanking get me a headache

Comentado por Nordri

Notice how original description of this item equip effect has changed (possibly in 3.1) from "When struck in combat has a chance of shielding you in a protective barrier which will reduces damage from each attack by 140, up to a total of 4000 damage absorbed. Lasts 10 secs." to "When struck in combat has a chance of shielding you in a protective barrier which will reduce damage from each attack by 140. Lasts 10 secs." so it's no longer limited in how much it can absorb during the 10 sec up time of effect. It could completely block any damage during it's effect in low level instance mass pull.

Comentado por 379411

Ok, I´m just guessing here but is this best for a druid tank then any other tank? Please don´t downrank I´m just wondering.

Comentado por supercrem9

Holy crap...I have been farming this for months on my Dk tank and have YET to see this drop. I think i have done this instance atleast 100 times...I should get an achievment for not having it drop so many times

Comentado por hemek

this bastard has yet to drop for me - been running it for the last 3 months - make sure if you are a tank you need this.
One of the best tanking trinkets in the game

Comentado por lock101

I just got this on my Feral Druid. I was in the LFG as dps/Tank and stated that I needed the Trinket. So I get invited to a group to tank, so then things get switched around where this Dk was gonna tank and I was gonna Dps, So I made sure to tell the group before I got saved that I need the trinket, so everyone else agreed to let me have it. But sure enough when we get to the boss and it drops, the Dk tank and a Dps Paladin roll on it also, I won the roll, but me and the paladin's roll was tied at a 72? They must have an automatic tiebreak roll or something cause it gave it to me. Now somehow I got lucky and won the roll, but wow, I asked the group if I could get the trinket cause thats all I needed, was willing to dps or tank or if they didn't want to let me just roll on it, I could find another group. But they all said, sure the trinket is yours, i'll pass on it, then we get there and 2 of em roll on it, luckily the one Dk did keep his word. But hey, 2 people that go on my list of people not to group with anymore.

Comentado por Dredmon

To help compare the Essence of Gossamer with the Glyph of Indomitability

140 damage off of each hit is very respectable compared to the incoming damage to armor ratio required to equal that level of mitigation… It takes an 8500 damage hit to reduce 140 damage at the given armor levels in this comparison.

When you compare these trinkets factor the following
1) The damage mitigation for physical damage from the Glyph of Indomitability is constant while the damage mitigation from the Essence of Gossamer is temporary.
2) The Essence of Gossamer mitigates spell damage AND physical damage while the Glyph of Indomitability only mitigates physical damage.
3) The Essence of Gossamer always gives you 111 Stamina while the Glyph of Indomitability allows you to gain Dodge 1/6 of the time.
4) The dodge % on Glyph of Indomitability is actually about 7% on a tank (diminishing returns).

The difference between 25000 Armor and 26792 Armor (+1792 from Glyph of Indomitability not including talent/class/meta modifiers). Your Armor Level may differ, but this will give ballpark figures for an average raid-level tank.

To illustrate the effective change of +1792 armor using the above given Armor Levels…

25,000 AL = .60046 mitigated damage per hit
26,792 AL = .61694 mitigated damage per hit
Mitigation difference between 25,000 and 26,792 Armor = .01648

5000 point hit
25,000 AL = 3002.3 damage mitigated
26,792 AL = 3084.7 damage mitigated
Difference = 82.4 damage on a 5000 point hit

8000 point hit
25,000 AL = 4803.68
26,792 AL = 4935.52
Difference 131.84

8500 point hit
25,000 AL = 5103.91
26,792 AL = 5243.99
Difference 140.08 <----- This is where physical damage from AL starts to equal the Essence of Gossamer proc…

9000 point hit
25,000 AL = 5404.14
26,792 AL = 5552.46
Difference 148.32

10,000 point hit
25,000 AL = 6004.6
26,792 AL = 6169.4
Difference 164.8

15,000 point hit
25,000 AL = 9006.9
26,792 AL = 9254.1
Difference 247.2

20,000 point hit
25,000 AL = 12009.2
26,792 AL = 12338.8
Difference 329.6

Comentado por 137161

A 5% chance is pretty low. Most people figure, "I'm getting hit so much that it will proc all the time, even with just a 5% chance." But let's see if this is really the case.

On average it will take 20 hits for the trinket to proc, but that doesn't mean that it will always proc after 20 hits. After being hit 10 times, there's a 40% chance the trinket will have procced. At 20 hits, the chance becomes 64%. At 30 hits, it's 78%, meaning that there's a 22% chance that it hasn't procced after 30 hits. After 59 hits there's still a 5% chance it hasn't procced.

And I'm just talking about hits. If you're a tank you'll have a high avoidance chance. If your avoidance is 33.333%, it will take 30 enemy swings to hit you 20 times. If you have 5 enemies attacking you and each attacks once per 2.5 seconds, it'll take 15 seconds for them to make 30 swings. This means that the proc will be up for 10 seconds, down for it's 35 remaining seconds of the cooldown time, and then you'll see an average delay of 15 seconds. With 5 enemies hitting you it will proc once every 60 seconds. Let's see how that changes when only one enemy is hitting you.

If one enemy is attacking you every 2.5 seconds, it'll take 75 seconds to make 30 swings. With the 45 second cooldown that means the trinket will proc once every 120 seconds (on average). Druids like this trinket for the stamina, but you probably have a higher avoidance chance. Raid buffed, you might have a 45% chance to dodge. If you're tanking a single mob, that would reduce the proc rate to once every 2.25 minutes.

The Black Heart has a 25% chance to proc. Following the same math it will take an average of 4 hits to proc. With 33.333% avoidance that's 6 enemy swings. If you're tanking a single mob, that's a 15 second delay (6 * 2.5). With the 45 second cooldown, that's one proc a minute (even in raid situations).

The proc on the Essence of Gossamer is rather ineffective when very few enemies are hitting you. Also, since it reduces damage by a constant (instead of a percent, like the proc on The Black Heart) it is only effective when weak enemies are hitting you. If you have 27,000 armor and are being hit for 6000 damage, to get a reduction of 140 you would need +1008 armor. Considering the Black Heart's proc gives you 7056 armor, you can imagine how much better that is. The +7056 armor is equivalent to a reduction of 140 if you're getting hit for 980 damage.

Most raid encounters won't require you to stack stamina to the point that wearing both the Black Heart and Essence of Gossamer would be a good idea. The Black Heart gives you more stamina, and in raids its proc will happen more often (twice as often, if not more) and be more effective (about 10 times more effective). For almost all raid encounters you'll be better off with the Black Heart and an avoidance/mitigation trinket. Even for 5 mans where both trinkets will proc once a minute, the Black Heart's proc is much more effective. And for 5 mans, you certainly shouldn't need the stamina from both.

Edit: Some people think that the proc will actually absorb 4000 damage. The damage shield is only up for 10 seconds, so let's see what it would take to absorb 4000 damage in 10 seconds:

4000 / 140 = ~29 (this is the number of hits you need to take)
29 / (1 - 0.3333) = 43.5 (assuming your dodge chance is 0.3333, it'll take 43.5 swings to hit you 29 times)
1 / (43.5 / 10) = 0.2299 (this is the number of attacks per second made against you)
2.5 / 0.2299 = 10.875 (assuming a 2.5 second enemy swing timer, this is the number of enemies you need attacking you to generate 43.5 swings in 10 seconds)

In heroic 5 mans, most of the time you'll have 2-4 enemies hitting you. 4 enemies will make 16 swings in 10 seconds, 10.667 of those swings will hit. You will only absorb ~1500 damage while tanking 4 mobs.

Comentado por 443617

This trinket, along with The Black Heart, both seem to proc at the beggining of battles. This happens to me very frequently. I think there may be a hidden timer which after it expires will have 100% chance to proc on the next attack.

When riding through low level areas many times I will get hit and both the shield and armor bonus pop up as I ride past them. It seems to hold true in instances as well, meaning when you charge in you are very hard to kill at first. Not sure about PvP.

Comentado por 134105

With the recent patches (including The Black Heart drop from regular ToC) and with the upcoming patch (3.3: triumph badges drop from all heroics), I predict this once beloved tanking trinket will fall by the wayside.

Higher iLvl gear comes with much higher stam, making the necessity for this trinket negligible, especially compared to other trinkets that increase consistent mitigation stats, such as shield block, parry, and dodge (Glyph of Indomitability, for example). I would say that this is a must have for any new tank, but considering that it drops from heroic Anub'arak, one of the hardest heroic bosses, new tanks will likely need to be "carried" by better geared healers and dpsers in order to access it.

I would hope that Blizzard moves this item to a regular level 80 dungeon where it can be appropriately farmed by young tanks looking to gear up for heroic runs, but as is Blizzard's habit, they may forget about this piece all together. :(

Comentado por 265161

Are there any upgrades to this item that do about the samething? Im a feral tank so armor is rather silly when your breaking 75% reduction. Wouldnt mind a nice stam/shielding effect though. Thought I saw one but cant remember now.

Comentado por 234075

Anyone else having insane (low) drop rates on this thing?
Me and another alt-tank have been running AN HC for 3 weeks straight now (seperate groups, mind you) and it has not dropped once. Next to that i've done it as daily on a few other chars in the meanwhile, and no drop there either..

Bad luck or something else?

Comentado por knarel

this thing sux. here's my math
if a heroic boss does 20k a hit and since i resiest about 73% then 20k turns into 5.4k so this item is crap.

Comentado por 258919

This trinket is powerful enough to keep you going until ICC10. The only pre-Frost/ICC replacement I would consider is the Black Heart (should be in your other slot TBH) and Satrina's Impending Scarab (ToC25). The Glyph of Indominability is useful if you are struggling on mitigation, but also requries you to use it for it's full effect.

The damage reduction proc is neither significant nor frequent, but it does make up for a percent or so of another mitigation stat if you have to choose (say, Ick's Rotting Thumb, which gives about 1.8% dodge to a bear druid). The main feature of this trinket is the enormous chunk of stamina that it offers, which gives about 1.8k HP in Bear Form (roughly 1.1-1.2k for non-druids).

Any new tank should run H AN at least once a day to try for this.

Comentado por Felfaadaern

This is especially nice trinket for DK tanks. We don't care about shield-block buffs, but crave more stamina! Am curious about the mechanic this works on - if it is armor trick as some comments suggest, will it buff my Bladed Armor?

Comentado por skip029

Tracked the proc rate with Procodile and it didn't seem too promising. Proc'd about once every 2 minutes.

If you're wondering how it works, it basically absorbs 140 dmg.

So..... if the mob was hitting say, 152, 150, 147, 158.

Proc!

Mob will be hitting for, 12, 10, 7, 18.

I think it's only useful for the STA buff. Don't rely on the Proc really to save you.

Comentado por badassnewbie

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but for high level tanks looking to pull an entire low level instance in 1 pull for a lowbie friend, this trinket is absolutely amazing. The hundreds of mobs whacking you barely touch you. If you are a paladin, combine with sacred shield for pretty much immunity to an infinite horde of low level elites that you will slaughter for cloth/greens/experience.

Comentado por 1455595

this essence of gossamer can make feel right

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