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Comentado por Tenock

Aumenta em 1414 seu maior atributo durante 15 segundos, proca uma vez a cada 55 segundos, o que dá uma média de 385 por segundo

1414/55 * 15

É praticamente mesma quantidade encontrada em berloques do mesmo ilv dropados na Fundição da Rocha Negra como por exemplo Frasco das Sombras Convulsas

Comentado por zephirdd

Há um erro de tradução: O trinket não aumenta seu espírito independente de sua especialização; Esse erro é exclusivo à descrição em português.

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Comentado por perculia

Full list of 6.1 Alchemy Trinkets:

Stage 1: Pedra do Vento
Stage 2: Pedra da Terra
Stage 3: Pedra das Águas
Stage 4: Pedra do Fogo

Comentado por 319261

Total mats required for this trinket, starting from step 1:
Catalisador Alquímico * 650
Sangue Selvagem * 60
Fogo Mágico * 40
Água Mágica * 40
Terra Mágica * 20
Ar Mágico * 5

Comentado por Zoeteklem

*Updated for 6.1* - Philosopher's and Alchemist's Stones over the years

Vanilla	BC	Wrath	Cata	MoP	WoD
Pedra Filosofal	Pedra do Alquimista Pedra do Alquimista do Assassino Pedra do Alquimista do Guardião Pedra do Alquimista do Redentor Pedra do Alquimista do Feiticeiro	Pedra Indestrutível do Alquimista Pedra Mercurial do Alquimista Pedra Poderosa do Alquimista	Pedra da Vida do Alquimista Pedra de Azougue do Alquimista Pedra Vibrante do Alquimista Pedra Volátil do Alquimista	Pedra do Alquimista Zen	Pedra Filosofal Draenoriana -New for 6.1- Pedra do Vento Pedra da Terra Pedra das Águas Pedra do Fogo

Remember, you need one of these to be either equipped or in your bag to do transmutations. Enjoy!

Comentado por Alcest

A little curious why this trinket forces you to use Alchemy (and doesn't have the 40% Health Tonic/Mana Potion increase), while the other crafted items don't...

Comentado por Aetherflux

Is this now showing versatility for anyone else? Didn't see anything in the PTR patch notes... Dropped engineering for this, hopefully it's a mistake.

Comentado por priestguy

These trinkets were extremely good when they had mastery; however, now that Blizzard has decided to change them to Versatility, they have become not much better than garbage. I understand the concern of an unfair advantage to alchemists...my suggestion is to revert them back to mastery and to make the trinkets BOE with an alchemical upgrade item available via the alchemy profession.

Patch 6.1 edit: Blizzard listened...the level 4 version of this trinket is now BOE! The versatility gives you 1.95% extra healing or damage and about .97% damage reduction; although, mastery would still be much better for most classes. The Strength, Agility or Intellect proc chance is 35%. The stat proc lasts for 15 seconds and the internal cooldown is 55 seconds. This trinket averages approximately 368 of your primary stat per second every min. The 40% extra mana and healing received from potions is a nice bonus...especially when used with Poção de Rejuvenescimento Draenoriana or Poção de Mana Canalizado Draenoriana.

This trinket would be a good upgrade for someone who has just transitioned into Blackrock Foundry; however, most of the trinkets that drop in BRF are far superior...especially at the heroic or mythic level.

Comentado por Blutelf

This was nerfed twice on the PTR, and unfortunately the result is garbage.

Comentado por Gilgard

Ahahahah now it has versatility instead of mastery. I knew that, It seemed too good to be true

Comentado por cnwing

This makes me sad. Was stockpiling those catalysts but now that it has vers instead of mastery I probably wont make this. Who uses vers? I don't know all the classes but that is the one stat both toons i play regularly try and avoid.

Comentado por 1439138

pretty nice change for mist and wind monks at least. mastery is #$%^ for us vers is pretty good for us. well see though.

Comentado por jjanchan

There are 6 stages for the alchemy crafted trinket, with the first 4 stages requiring the previous stage's trinket plus additional mats.

The initial stage for this item is an iLevel 640 trinket - Pedra do Vento.
The mats for Pedra do Vento are as follows:
100 X Catalisador Alquímico
5 X Ar Mágico

The next iLevel upgrade is 655 - Pedra da Terra
In addition to Pedra do Vento, the following mats are required to upgrade to Pedra da Terra:
70 X Catalisador Alquímico
15 X Terra Mágica
15 X Sangue Selvagem

The next iLevel upgrade is 670 - Pedra das Águas
In addition to Pedra da Terra, the following mats are required to upgrade to Pedra das Águas:
70 X Catalisador Alquímico
15 X Água Mágica
15 X Sangue Selvagem

The next iLevel upgrade is 685 - Pedra do Fogo
In addition to Pedra das Águas, the following mats are required to upgrade to Pedra do Fogo:
70 X Catalisador Alquímico
15 X Fogo Mágico
15 X Sangue Selvagem

This makes the sum total of mats to reach the Stage 4 trinket as follows:
310 X Catalisador Alquímico
5 X Ar Mágico
15 X Terra Mágica
15 X Água Mágica
15 X Fogo Mágico
45 X Sangue Selvagem

Stage 5 can be achieved by using a Selvágua on Pedra do Fogo to create Pedra dos Ermos (Item Level 700).
The materials to craft Selvágua are:
175 X Catalisador Alquímico
30 X Ar Mágico
30 X Mangravil

Stage 6 can be achieved by using Destilado Elemental on Pedra dos Ermos to create Pedra dos Elementos (Item Level 715).
The materials to craft Destilado Elemental are:
350 X Catalisador Alquímico
60 X Fogo Mágico
60 X Mangravil

This makes the total mats to create a Stage 6 trinket (Pedra dos Elementos) as follows:
835 X Catalisador Alquímico
35 X Ar Mágico
15 X Terra Mágica
15 X Água Mágica
75 X Fogo Mágico
45 X Sangue Selvagem
90 X Mangravil

Comentado por Biftard

Just made this and tested it out on a dummy. I can confirm it has a 55 second ICD. Which normalizes to roughly 368 of your primary stat.

Comentado por FriendlyFacts

This stone, the 4th level upgrade of dreanor Alchemist Stones, is bind on equip, unlike it's previous upgrade levels.

Comentado por sakera

Just made this on my Alchemist and it doesn't say that it requires Alchemy (1) anymore. So, does that mean anyone can use it now?

EDIT: Just seen the Hotfix update, so yes it no longer requires Alchemy to equip.

Comentado por felixhui

6.1 Hotfixes: March 3
Items
•Stone of Fire is now bind on equip and no longer requires Alchemy to equip.

you can equip two at once, but only one buff will be trigged

Comentado por Problim

Anyone know what is the internal cooldown on this one?

Comentado por Aquifel

Patch 6.1.2 - Build 19711 Patch Notes:

Stone of Fire is now bind on equip and no longer requires Alchemy to equip.

I guess Inscriptionists have a slight amount of competition for trinkets now.

Comentado por wiuu

Since it has 55s ICD it lines up almost every other CD so it gives much more than a flat 360 primary stat.

With the Blackrock Foundry ilvl increase this trinket will also get +5 ilvl since it is a stage 4 craft.

Comentado por kevb70

This trinket would be a lot better with two random secondary stats, so not all trinkets are the exact same.

Comentado por Willowwhisp

Can an alchemist make the Stone of Wind, Water, etc. and wear them, and then make the Stone of Fire and give it or sell it to another toon?

Comentado por Spanky2k

I can confirm that if you have created and equipped a Pedra das Águas, you can unequip it and upgrade it to a BOE Pedra do Fogo.

I have just done exactly this. I crafted a 670 trinket for my alchemist and when I replaced it with a blackrock foundry 685 trinket, I unequipped the old one, upgraded it to the 685 new one and sent it to an alt. :)

Comentado por Draewind

For a healer using Poção de Mana Canalizado Draenoriana in a 10 minute fight, the stats are:

265 Versatility
355 Intellect
170 Spirit

Do not forget that when WoD came out, Versatility was broken and was repaired in 6.1. A lot of the basics of theorycrafting was done long prior to the fix and was never repeated. Versatility is a difficult thing to measure, it affects EVERYTHING. When it was broken it appeared to be a black hole where stats were simply wasted. That is no longer the case. Odd that folks noticed the stat was broken but never bothered to retest now that it has been corrected and working as designed.

If it were anything but Versatility, no other trinket at this level could compete by the older computations, so if Versatility is anything near its design... this is a GREAT trinket.

This trinket will increase your healing or damage by 2.04% and decrease your "damage taken" by 1.02%.

It no longer requires Alchemy to wear.
It is nice to have a Tônico Curativo heal for 100k (instead of about 70k).

Comentado por Alexxiis

This may or may not be common knowledge now, but for tracking purposes it's Intelecto.

Comentado por menace97

Here's an updated (Patch 6.2) list of the 6 stages of this epic trinket:

Comentado por ravencrows

All the matts you need to make and upgrade your trinket 6.2

Stage 1 Pedra do Vento
Catalisador Alquímicox100
Ar Mágicox5

stage 2 Pedra da Terra
Catalisador Alquímicox70
Sangue Selvagemx15
Terra Mágicax15

stage 3 Pedra das Águas
Catalisador Alquímicox70
Sangue Selvagemx15
Água Mágicax15

stage 4 Pedra do Fogo
Catalisador Alquímicox70
Sangue Selvagemx15
Fogo Mágicox15

stage 5 Pedra dos Ermos
Catalisador Alquímicox175
Mangravilx30
Ar Mágicox30

stage 6 Pedra dos Elementos
Catalisador Alquímicox350
Mangravilx60
Fogo Mágicox60

TOTAL:
Catalisador Alquímicox835
Ar Mágicox35
Terra Mágicax15
Água Mágicax15
Fogo Mágicox75
Sangue Selvagemx45
Mangravilx90

Comentado por cephadex

The recipe for upgrading this and the other stones is obtained from the herb trader who sometimes comes by your garrison.

Comentado por kaynen

Ive always wondered why that 40% extra from healing and from heal potions is more like 4%.

Been like that since BC.

if you dont agree just look at a 70k potion and itll only go up by 2k instead of 26 - 30k. I thought the heal itself might proc correctly but even after test proc'ing its only a 2k buff.>>>Shaman healing and potions.

With taking mastery away for versatility and the 4% heal buff... Sorry all but save the mats or make gold selling the item instead<<Thats my opinion.

Comentado por tonydizzle

The value of having the versatility on this trinket shines for the myriad of specs that prefer anything over crit (the proc of choice for the DMF trinkets). For instance, Frost DKs always value versatility over crit (anything over crit really), and the DMF strength trink has a crit proc, so this would be much better having the 2% versatility (or +2% damage) with a large strength proc. I'm not saying this is the best trinket in the game or anything (far from it), but for a crafted 685 trink, it's better than the DMF ones for anyone that doesn't like crit much.

Also, to anyone curious about the healing from a Healing Tonic with this equipped, I just tested it and the results agreed with the results others had from a ways back (patch 6.1.2). I was healed for over 100k as opposed to what others have reported in the recent past.

Comentado por Downhitted

As of patch 6.2 all the Master crafted items cannot be un-soulbound by upgrading them.
Basically just a waste of money if you try to.

Comentado por Tequima

I noticed this is selling for c59K on my server in 9.0 Shadowlands. Now this may be just someone chancing it, as the sale rate is 0.07 per day.

On the other hand, is Draewind's (healer) comment still valid in 9.0, albeit with squished numbers? Does this mean someone thinks it is useful in the 35-39 bracket?

"This trinket will increase your healing or damage by 2.04% and decrease your "damage taken" by 1.02%. It no longer requires Alchemy to wear. It is nice to have a Healing Tonic heal for 100k (instead of about 70k)."

Comentado por nookleptic

I have been working through the Draenor Alchemy recipes. It looks like Stages 5 & 6 Trinket recipes no longer exist.

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Nível do Item: 44
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Único-equipado: Senhores da Guerra Criados (3)

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??? Atributo não utilizado (+7)

Equipar: Quando curar ou causar dano, você tem chance de aumentar em 25 a Força, a Agilidade, o Intelecto ou o Espírito por 15 sec. Seu maior atributo é sempre escolhido. (Chance de ativar:35%, 55s de recarga)
Equipar: Aumenta em 40% os efeitos de poções de cura e de mana no usuário. Estes efeitos não são cumulativos.
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