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Comentado por ScumHellfire

A great invention for the final Tier of the Gnomish Gearworks;

- 20 Hour work order, so you have plenty of time to go do other things!
- The item itself is limited by fuel, so after waiting 20 hours, you can use it for several minutes!
- Each work order gives one charge! So you have to wait another 20 hours after you've used it for a few minutes! Massive fun!
- It costs 100 Resources each time! So you'll never get the max. amount of resources and we definitely don't want that!

Great stuff. no other inventions added at the Tier 3 Gearworks.

Comentado por kecaw

So let me get this straight, we (as in people that build the gnomish gearworks/ goblin workshop) after days/weeks of using the gadgets and saving our resources get a "siege machine" that is the equivalent of the Nagrand one BUT with a time limit and work order of 20h and 100 resourses to make? (and in PvP it probably gets nuked just like the Nagrand one) Im sorry but ... what? If so then there is no point in building the lvl 3 gearworks/workshop its just wasteful for your time and resources.

Comentado por baconn

A complete let-down. Was really looking forward to steamrolling the bridge in Ashran, but the tank dies to a single Necrotic Plague in 8 seconds.

Might switch to the Bunker now until it gets a well needed buff

Comentado por Leronroll

Hi, I'm a youtuber who makes guides and reviews, including some for WoW.

I was planning on making a video going over the gearworks, but that idea was postponed - because of just how terrible the tank is. The video is being postponed until I find a way to make the video more compelling than "Do not buy this" - I mention this to you, because if you're looking up this item on wowhead, you're probably considering building a gearworks, or upgrading it to level 3.

For a 1200 resource down payment to upgrade from level 2 to 3, you get essentially a limited use nagrand siege tank. The nagrand siege tank is really pretty terrible, dies easily and quickly, doesn't do all that much damage, etc. and is blatantly outclassed by the other zone equipment (shredder, artillery platform, etc).

I was honestly hoping for a real demolisher/siege tank that would actually be useful (since they cost 100 resources in addition to the 1200 upgrade fee) PER tank.

A shredder from gorgrond(sp?) or being able to decide on what siege equipment you'd like to build (such as from wintergrasp siege works back in WOTLK) or the ability to create actually useful high-tech machines and gear would've been much more innovative (or rather, used existing and superior models from years ago... yeeeahhh....)

If you are someone who does have a gearworks, upgrading it can wait on the back burner behind other building upgrades, if you ever do it at all. As it is, as of 12/10/2014, I feel I can't even justify the 1200 resource expense - and i was collecting video footage. =/

Update edit: I still find the merits of the tank questionable - but it may be a bit more useful for those on PVP servers / regularly visiting the new draenor world pvp zone. As the tank is essentially spammable (you can have a stack of 20 on a 1-minute cooldown) there is some merit to using it to essentially boost yourself to full health in the middle of a gank or world pvp or provide an additional boost during quests in addition to the zone boosts, etc. HOWEVER, that said, the benefit of this still needs to be compared to that of other large buildings, as to get your spammable stack of 20 tanks, you'd need to spend 100 resources per day for 20 days. For normal players, will you really log in with that level of consistency and is it worth as much to you as, say, work orders from the war mill / dwarven bunker?

I suppose that's up to you.

Usefulness Update - Despite the work order cap of 1, you may override this cap via the use of a warehouse, as the +total work order bonuses also apply to the gnomish gearworks, increasing the utility of the siege engine as a resource dump over the course of a protracted span of time, while reducing the stress needed to obtain tanks.

Comentado por myrkat

"Drive to victory in Draenor!" - as long as victory is only a couple minutes away and there's nothing attacking you.

And here I thought the Torre dos Magos / Tenda dos Espíritos Nível 3 was the most useless upgraded large plot... The Gearworks and this siege engine really take that cake! Wow, how utterly disappointing.

I would so much rather have another Medium Plot or even another Small Plot than the extra Large Plot a level 3 Garrison gives. The large ones just seem pretty lack-luster, especially given the costs to fully upgrade them.

Maybe they just want everyone to have Quartel Nível 3 and Casamata Enânica / Moinho de Guerra Nível 3...

tl;dr version DO NOT BUY - UTTERLY USELESS @ level 3

Comentado por 189339

Since there's not much information on the siege engine itself here, here's some things you might find helpful.

The siege engine has the four following abilities:

Hurl Boulder
Flame Vents
High Gear
Rain of Death

Important things to know:

The siege engine item cannot be used while in combat - it has to be entered prior to battle.
Entering the siege engine is not instant - it has about a 2 second cast time to use this item.
Has a 20 minute duration (if you stay alive that long).
Has fairly low health - roughly half of your character's max HP.
You can loot corpses, mine nodes, pick herbs, etc, while inside the siege engine, unlike some vehicles.
These items are stackable and are not limited duration - you can acquire multiple siege engines in your bags for later use.
These items will stay in your bags, and remain usable even after demolishing your Gnomish Gearworks/Goblin Workshop.

Comentado por Octayvius

I farmed these for about a week and then started using them.
They were incredibly helpful on doing things like Farming invasions/Using during an invasion/Farming Rep/Apexis Crystal Dailies.
The damage they do is pretty incredible. I also use these for invasions. On The botani invasion we managed to get to 1400 points with this someones alt and a pug.
If you have a friend whose able to tank at all you can do a lot of damage with these as wells. We did not have one but it definitely would of worked better if we did.

Comentado por Casn

I had been using them as garrison resource sink, without even using them. But they only stack to 20, so no reason to pile up too many of them.
Looking at cost and cooldown, these would be pretty terrible, as they'll rarely live whole 20 minutes without someone else tanking, but their damage output is great, for now (as gear will go up and up, their value will go down and down). If you want to use it for, say, Ashran or average dalies, it's good up untill it stops working. Then you realize that you need 3-4 more charges to be done for this day, and it does not calculate, few days of charges for one day of work.
But as someone mentioned, Invasions are where they shine. Speed skill will get you from one enemy zerg to another, or at least close to. CD will be up most of the time when you're done with that spot.Hurl Boulder is rather meh unless you want to stay at range. Flame vents deals average 15k per tick, with 5 ticks per use, with 3 sec CD. That's sustainable 25k AoE dps.Most enemies will die in 2 uses, unless NPCs/other player are helping you. Neat

Also, other poster has wrong abilities listed, ones used by Siege Engine in Nagrand. Ones used by this have bit more power (or rather shorter CD/longer duration).
Lançar Pedregulho
Escotilhas de Chamas
Equipamento Sofisticado
Chuva de Morte
They appraently can crit, but have very low chance to do so (unrelated to character crit chance). They can also multistrike, and from my experience multistrike chance appears to be linked to character chance to multistrike.

Comentado por aznballer735

Here is me using it in
Collosseum Event
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2TRT4QJLpY
tried to also use it in DMF arena but didnt work

Comentado por 82881

Very disappointing. I really had my hopes up for this one, with all the hoop-jumping and cost needed to get it. I was hoping we would have all the workshop toys, available in this thing, like 2-minute flying, turret droppers, etc. Put mildly, even a stables (even if you already have all the stable mounts) is better than this, and that's if you don't want a Barracks or War Mill for some reason...

When we get level 4+ buildings, I predict the workshop building will get some much needed love. In the meantime, this tank is at most, an effective way to get people to "Hey what's that" at you etc. Little actual usefulness. I only justify having this building since it is on an alt I don't play often, and figured it's immediately available to use sometime, should some over-due love come it's way.

Comentado por whyzzim

This item is so good for Os Espreitapresa rep grinding, you can have a tank to pull everything and Escotilhas de Chamas everything. I have seen it deal more 100k dps burning a large pack.

Comentado por Sillysith

Hmmmm..... interesting.

I love my siege engine. I love that I can loot in it but bummed that I cannot use my Findle's Loot-A-Rang. If anyone knows a way to key bind it let me know. The siege engine creates it's own action bar which does not allow me to put the boomerang in there and the bind from regular action bar goes away once the siege engine is active. To loot while in the vehicle you have to get right on top of the loot which can be off-putting to other players trying to loot/fight in same spot.

Any tips are welcome.

Comentado por Chittinbriks

I was looking forward to using this to help me grind rep killing the elites in Fang'rila. One would think after using N.U.K.U.L.A.R that this, being described as "Overcharged" would be the way to go. Well before this I never had a wowhead acct. But I made one so I could add to the other comments describing this piece of equipment... graded in no uncertain terms 5H1T.

This is a complete waste of effort and could be no more disappointing than a level 10 rusted air rifle with plastic BB's

So stick to grouping and watch out for the one that drops out of the tree's about 30M past the tent.

As all the others say, I wish I had read these comments before I upgraded.

Come on Blizzard.... overcharged? Really? how about halving the CD on the Nukes, it'd be more worthwhile.

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