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Comentado por saftsenkel

Clearly the Dps-Warrior set. I'm afraid the set boni suck for MS warriors, but fury mostly outdpses arms anyway, so it isn't that bad.

Comentado por Marouka

I beg to Differ. MS warriors and a paladin healer on a team is proving to be one of the best arena teams out there. And if i remember correctly, Fury warriors just got quite a nerf.

Comentado por 45258

The lack of hit rating on this set is deeply disconcerting. It may be able to be made up with gems, but this seems more like a MS set to me.

Comentado por 12361

This set seems to bring a whole new level of itemization to the game. While it lacks hit/crit and there are few yellow sockets to be seen, it's still only 5 slots. Other items will be able to improve in these area's. It's not unlikely a fury PvE dps warrior will have to pick up some leather items with the hit/crit missing to make up for shit.

Both set bonuses are pretty spectacular for PvE dps though.

Comentado por 29366

Not to mention that the set (as per equip bonuses) ignores 406 armor on every hit.

Comentado por Starfox

A level 73 Mob with 406 Armor has: 5,79% reduction
so you damage will increase by ~6,14% as the Set will reduce his AC to 0
W/O Set: 1406 Armor=> 17,55% reduction
With Set: 1000 Armor=> 13,14% reduction
Set will give you a relative damage boost of ~5,35%
Don't know if WoW supports negative Armor, if not, this equip:bonus is not as good, because any armor value below 406 would only be reduce to 0, hence not given a full 6% damage boost.

Comentado por 28024

To use 2 quickly weapons,that's to say,the 406 armor ignored will almost ignored all reduce damage from armor.that must be the KEY for the Damagebringer.

.but there's nothing for + to hit is dangerious problem.

Perhaps we have to gain the to hit from other item for the berserker.

Comentado por 28024

By the way,how many Agility can increase 1% chance crit when you are lv 70 ?

Comentado por 34676

31 agy = 1% crit.
So this set gives about 5,4% of crit.

Comentado por Aldor

It's 33 agility.

Comentado por 26334

Awsome sett :)
The huge amount ot Str, Stam and Agi helps in every aspect of the warrior when doing dps. With that many sockets its easy to customise it to your likeing.
Its fortunate that blizzard has decided to make 5 piece sets so you can add stats from other items that you deem better suited for your style of playing.

And with those bonuses? its like 6 talent points worth! (impMS and ImpExecute, not that you usually put points in them anyway but here you get them for free!)

Mages will hate you in pvp when your hits almost entierly negleckts their armor buff Ice armor ;P (unless they specc for more armor)

Comentado por Bubble

you can easily make up for the lack of crit / hit from the set with items in the other slots as well as by using the new gems, which will be of higher quality (10crit, 10hit)

and to say the least, 2set bonus is an awesome dps boost.

an overall, great set for dps

although WoW doesnt support negative armor values, the armor reduction will be greatly appreciated by dps warriors fighting bosses at that lvl (black temple + mt hyjal)

Comentado por 38593

Y'know what makes me laugh about this set? The fact that fury warriors are very rarely able to even raid as fury. I have a fury warrior that I've tried to get into raids with but no dice. It's not the fact that my DPS is lacking, it's just the fact that I am, in fact, fury. I've been labeled a "liability" just for being fury. Which makes it really almost a ridiculous set to even make.

Comentado por 43855

Do you have any idea how nice gems you can put on to these items, its really a nice set and they say its easy to get too :)

Comentado por 46474

This gear is going to rock for an ms warrior and it's going to be easy to get!!!!

Comentado por TheRaven

This set really, compared to other sets is a joke. all its doing is giving us some of our talent points.

Other sets are far superior. Whilst our +damage is for thngs we can talent into for +damage. The mage one adds damage to all their base spells. The warlock one, affliction especially, set is on the other hand amazing. 35hp every time a dot ticks its close enough to 300hp5

as to raid dps warriors. Every large guild i know who was in aq 40 or naxx used fury. there dps scales sharply with equipment. after SSC or BT i expect fury dps will be very wanted in raids.

Comentado por 12333

As you can infer from http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Damage_reduction

X armor taken away = X% improvement in damage

So no, this ignore-armor bonus is going to be the same bonus on all mobs. The lack of hit on the set is disappointing, however can be made up with full jewelery /weaponry with +hit, and solid boots etc.

Set that scales exceptionally well with blessing of kings.

Comentado por 9866

The reduction in melee damage for A armor on a level L mob or player (for L > 60) is A / (A + 467.5L - 22167.5).

When you hit someone, your damage is multiplied by (1-reduction), or (467.5L - 22167.5)/(A + 467.5L - 22167.5). For clarity let, C = 467.5L - 22167.5; so the damage multiplier is C/(A+C).

When you hit someone ignoring X armor, your damage is multiplied by C/(A-X+C). So, / is how much harder you hit with X armor penetration.

This simplifies to (A+C) / (A+C-X).

For a level 70 enemy, C = 10557.5. The improvement caps out at X=403; and you will do 3.82% more damage ignoring 403 armor than you would have done without ignoring armor. This scales down to rapidly to 3.32% more damage at a more realistic 2000 armor, its 2% more at 10000 armor, and 1.67% at 14000 armor.

Against a raid boss, you will do 3.37% more vs 403base armor, 2.97% more against 2000 base armor, 1.87% more vs. 10000, and 1.58% more against 14000.

Overall, the bad news is that these arent necessarily huge damage increases, but the good news is that they have godly scaling. No mechanic in the game reduces the quality of the scaling; unlike crit caps on mobs and resilience for pvp. Even glancing blows will hit X% harder.

By the time you get to the point of full tier 6, you should be hitting hard enough that the incremental upgrades to attack power that are available are not going to be able to complete with a 2%+ damage amplification from armor penetration.

Armor penetration vs. crit will be more interesting to watch... it will depend on gearing. In PvP, 2%+ more damage might be worth a much higher crit percent, if enemy players are stacking resilience. In PvE, if gear is available to put us up near crit caps, percent damage increases from armor penetration might be much more valuable for raiding. But, thats all speculation... i dont think a real answer can be put on that until we see what kind of gear people are wearing when more than a few select guilds are wearing tier 6.

At first glance, i looked at these armor pieces, and was happy that at least the tanking armor looks nice. However, this might be one of those hidden stats that doesnt look like much, but ends up having a huge impact on damage output; and more importantly for end-game gear, scales more powerfully than traditional stats once a player is dealing massive amounts of damage with a high crit rate.

Comentado por 9866

btw... socketed with epic crit/str orange gems in red sockets, crit yellow gems, and crit/stam green gems in blue sockets, this set gives an average of 102.8AP, 1.55% crit, and 496hp per piece. this is leaps and bounds beyond anything weve seen so far, and may have a good chance to stack up well with equivalent level gear... unlike tier 4 trash.

and yes, obviously, thats a gemming scheme for arms. ill let someone with more fury knowledge consider how to gem considering hit.

Comentado por 33108

Tier 6 raid set is coming from Black Temple (Mt Hyjal has it own set according to data miners)

Lackage of hit rating can be countered with 9 gem slot (lets say 8 hit rating gem .total 72 rating =%4.5 to hit)
Actually this total amount is low for a fury warrior if we compare these armor parts with other plate dps items from SSC and TK.
But it will be better to comment after more BT loot comes.

Comentado por 1815

As it is, this set is horribly underpowered. I'm actually beginning to wonder if Blizzard is intentionally making bad sets for warriors to reduce our dps.

Compare with the rogue set, which has:
http://www.wowhead.com/?itemset=668
- 102 more attack power (from agi and +ap)
- 18 more agility
- 81 more critical strike rating
- 39 more hit rating
- 8 less stamina
- A USEFUL SET BONUS

In fact, I think you would actually see slightly more DPS wearing the shaman set:
http://www.wowhead.com/?itemset=682

Comentado por 50591

The most disappointing thing about the set is no the rating of hit, so I think it is not very proper for fury warror.

Comentado por 26387

Video of all Tier 6 armor sets in action: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=97.0

Comentado por Phase

Very fortunately, as of 2.1 some hit rating has been added, as well as other minor buffs (at least, that is all that is showing at this point in time).

Comentado por 54291

what is MS:p?

Comentado por galvin

Tier 6 you lose 46 hit rating. For arms you can probably make it up with other gear. 46 hit rating you lose 2.87% to hit.

By putting all agi on this set they spend more points on agi than they woudl have if it was crit rating.

Just strange that tier 6 would take a nose dive on hit rating.

Comentado por 63939

Hey hey, I just read some comments and I wanted to give my mind out on here. Being a Mortal Strike warrior requires more than just the freaking title, "I'm an MS warrior, fear me!". I would die for this set, and those who nag about the 5% extra damage for Mortal Strike and Bloodthirst. I read some comments saying that Bloodthrist does output more damage than Mortal Strike, in PvE you can probably if you know how to use your character. In PvP, Mortal Strike eats Bloodthirst warriors. You will always hear those things but here's my special opinion -- Both are good if you have the gear, skill and you know WTF to do. I've dueled for such a long time and I had to go back to Protection to help the guild with progression. I have beating every class in ever spec' except Frost Mages, but this was before the patch where they nerfed Frost Mages. I haven't dueled them since then. I tested Bloodthirst out and it did insane damage, I loved trying it out. But the only spec's I am going to stick with are Protection and Mortal Strike. I never liked hybird since it limits your character, I always want to be at my best in gear and talents, this helps me play my character better; hint to being a Mortal Strike or Protection. In protection, I try to maximize my health since I have too much Defense, I'm thinking of mixing some DPS gear to gain extra status and loosen some Defense to cap it around 500ish. My weapons for being a Mortal Strike started out with Askhandi, then Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros and the last one is Deep Thunder. I like stunning people, :) pisses people off and gives me enough time to get a hamstring, MS or heroic strike on my enemies.

Well that is all. :P Warriors FTW ~

Comentado por 62433

Where do I need too go, to get this Warrior Set? I have ask menny charracters in Wow, but no one know where I can get it?

Plz someone answer me I need it ;P

Comentado por 68346

really nice stuff for fury warriors, probably works good for arms aswell., gotta add 1 thing tho, 2h dps wont outdps dw, saw someone write that earlier,. its just yeah. wont happen

Comentado por Elas

I'm talking for myself but I would rather use the Season2 Set of armor than this. You lose 2 sockets by using S2 set but gain +165 Melee critical strike rating. You lose 185 agility but if you were looking at agility to increase your critical, bah, 185 ~ 5.6% crit. 165 crit rating ~ 7.85. Hit rating? +42 on the S2 Set, only 30 on this one. 249 Str on this one, 179 on S2, yeah you lose 70str~140ap exactly 10dps. But you also gain 115resilience on the S2 set and 28 more stamina. ''Ignore X armor'' Please... people have already calculated it, about +3% damage? Also, the S2 set is a way more easy to get. By the time you have cleared all SSC and The Eye, you will have about 3/5 S2 armor. And this is T6, it means you have to go to Hyjal + Black Temple. From WowJutsu, only 1.08% of the players saw Hyjal and 0.84% Black temple. Imo, I wouldn't expect getting in if you aren't in the Top 100 guild of US Servers. Well, I hope it made you think :) -Elas Lv70 Arms warrior on Argent Dawn :)

Comentado por Phase

It is true, you would have more total crit if the AGI was spent on crit rating instead. However, the 7% or so dodge that comes from the huge amounts of AGI more than makes up for 2.25 or so crit rating. Also, about arms vs fury, 33/28 Arms can do very comparable DPS, and has the 4% increased physical damage debuff (Blood Frenzy). As far as total DPS, including the bonuses to the raid, 33/28 may very well out-damage 17/44. Improved Slam is a beast, by the way. Also, the hit rating can be made up either by wearing other "Hit" gear, or socketing the 8 sockets with hit rating gems, which wouldn't be a bad idea due to the large amounts of all other stats on this set(IF you decided to go fury DW). However, once again, a 33/28 2H DPS build can be used in conjunction with this set for massive amounts of damage, due to all of the free sockets and the small amount of hit rating / armor ignore. You could use the slots for crit / AP instead of Hit if you were to go 2H DPS, which would easily either even the possible DPS cap between 17/44 and 33/28 or actually put 33/28 ahead.

Comentado por 76379

This set is poorly designed.

edit: With the haste changes and a lot more testing I would rank our stats like so, in terms of item budget point:

1 STR
1 Crit
7 Armor Pen
2 AP
1 Haste
1 AGI
1 Hit

So all that AGI...and its just the 5th best stat for DW Fury...

Comentado por 73709

Is there a cloak, or cape that matches this set?

Comentado por 83073

Ok, the comments I've read on why this gear isn't that great because of agility makes me wonder if you guys understand the difference between pve and pvp. Pve gear is designed to benefit the wearer in an environment in which a group dynamic is needed to maximise your output. Stats like "crit rating" are not affected when you have buffs. Essentially 30% crit through rating and 30% crit through agility are 2 different things in a raid environment, as the agility, after buffs, can give you an extra 4% crit but pure crit rating stats will not change even with buffs. It's the same reason you want stats like strenght and not "attack power" in a raid buffed environment.

No matter how great this gear is, you cannot take it into an arena setting and believe you'll own everyone. You might be effective, but PVP geared people will destroy you because theyre much better suited to resist your damage. Have you ever sat there and tried to burn down a pally, or shammy, or anyone for that matter, with 366-400 resilience? You can't unless you have an insane amount of crit, which pvp gear gives you at the cost of a lower attack power. Coupled with the fact that this gear has zero resilience will ensure you go down faster than paris hilton in a men's bathroom.

I have dueled tier geared people in my season 1 gladiator gear and believe me, it's lol that all my hits on them are crits. They're so disappointed that they can't kill me after raiding half of their lives, but then I cheer them up by letting out the secret. You can't kill me 'cause I have 362 resilience and you have none.

Pve and Pvp are different...and the gears are designed to reflect that. Embrace agility and raid buffs, and the fact that because of the dodge rating agility gives you, you lived 5 seconds long enough for the tank to regain the agro you pulled because of your leet dps. Enjoy this gear...if you ever get it.

Comentado por 52544

Just want to clarify one thing: You can do fine as a 2h fury warrior as well. Bloodthirst should hit way bigger than MS at this point in your gear progression, and the 10% AP increase helps your improve slam just that much more.

Comentado por rocki

To everyone saying agi has no use on DPS plate, 3 simple words:

Blessing of Kings.

Increases your agi by 10%... myself as T4 geared warrior, I have about 280 agi unbuffed... say 300 raidbuffed. Add a Kings and that becomes 330, or an additional 1% crit. The higher your agi goes the more crit you get from kings. Agi scales with kings, crit rating does not.

Comentado por 93079

280 agility (unbuffed) plus 20 in raid buffs is 300 agil, or 330 with BoK. 330 Agil is equal to 10% crit.

280 crit rating (unbuffed) plus 20 in raid buffs is 280 crit rating and 22 agil, as BoK does not affect crit rating. 280 crit rating is equal to 12.72% crit and with 22 agil is equal to 13.39% crit.

13.39% crit, or 10% crit? Although agility is buffed by BoK, it still remains inferior to crit rating. 33 agil is needed for 1% crit. 22 crit rating is needed for 1% crit. Even with BoK active, 1 crit rating is equal to 1.36 agility, and thus crit is more efficient.

With that in mind, lets compare the Tier 5 raid set (Destroyer Battlegear) and the Tier 6 raid set (Onslaught Battlegear).

Destroyer-------------VS-------------Onslaught

229 Str----------------------------------249 Str

0 Agil------------------------------------185 Agil (6.17% crit w/ BoK)

151 Crit (7.23% crit)----------------0 Crit

234 Stam------------------------------246 Stam

76 Hit-----------------------------------30 Hit

0 Armor Ignored---------------------518 Armor Ignored

Y Socket-------------------------------R/B Socket

Armor ignored is a fickle stat. Most raid bosses have either 6200 or 7700, and would be debuffed with Sunder Armor, Faerie Fire, and possibly CoR. With these debuffs, the value of the armor penetration is roughly equal to 4% damage increase.

The sockets are roughly equal, with Onslaught having a slight lead due to 1 extra blue socket, as the red and yellow sockets in the two sets are roughly equal.

The 76 hit rating is not enough to reach the hit cap for a warrior using a 2 hander; although the hit can be made up with sockets or other slots, those slots could also be used to boost crit or Str/AP.

With that in mind, the Destroyer Battlegear has:
1.06% Crit (equal to 23.3 crit rating or 35 agility)
46 Hit

The Onslaught Battlegear has:
20 Str
12 Stam
1 Socket (B)
518 Armor Penetration (4% dps increase)

Taking into account the minor differences between the two sets, Onslaught seems to be a minor upgrade, possibly even a downgrade in certain circumstances.

Comentado por Ansi

Armor ignored is a fickle stat. Most raid bosses have either 6200 or 7700, and would be debuffed with Sunder Armor, Faerie Fire, and possibly CoR. With these debuffs, the value of the armor penetration is roughly equal to 4% damage increase.

Taking into account the minor differences between the two sets, Onslaught seems to be a minor upgrade, possibly even a downgrade in certain circumstances.

I tend to disagree; pure stats are always worth more than ratings. And not everyone you fight are bosses - The armor penetration adds alot more damage on lower armor targets.

With the extra added strength and armor penetration, T6 is far superior to T5. The lack of +Hit is easily negated with the other high level items/gems you obviously have access to, when you start collecting this set.

Comentado por 100894

+http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32345
+http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30915

it's better

Comentado por 101881

"151 Crit (7.23% crit)"
correct me if i'm wrong but that should be 6.83% crit. which would make it only a loss of .66% crit with kings on?

Comentado por 116607

Didnt see any comments regarding the set bonuses so Im gonna post my thoughts on them here.

First of all, imo the set bonuses arent worth aiming for - if you happen to pick up the tier 6 pieces pretty fast somehow (due to being unlucky with 'random' parts for example) its probably worth keeping, but I think most of the 'random' plate stuff outshines these set bonuses by far, especially if youre a fury warrior.

I checked some of my recent combat logs and I cant find a boss fight where my bloodthirst is doing more than 20% of my damage (usually around 16%), so the 4-piece bonus wouldnt be an awesome damage upgrade considering the stats youll have to sacrifice to get it.

The shoulders are the best and the chest comes very close to midnight from Archimonde, so thats probably worth taking too if you got rogues wanting the midnight. However; helm, gloves and legs all got significant upgrades.
Helmets: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32373 or even http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32235 if you can take it infront of rogues
Gloves: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32278
Legs: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32341 if youre fine on hit, otherwise http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30903
All of those items are, as said, pretty heavy upgrades in my opinion.

Comentado por Dalus

Chestpiece drops off Illidan Stormrage in Black Temple (End boss)

Gloves drop off Azgalor in Mount Hyjal (Fourth boss)

Helm drops off Archimonde in Mount Hyjal (End boss)

Leggings drop off The Illidari Council in Black Temple (Eighth boss)

Shoulders drop off Mother Shahraz in Black Temple (Seventh boss)

Bracers drop off Kalecgos in Sunwell Plateau (First boss)

Belt drops off Brutallus in Sunwell Plateau (Second boss)

Boots drop off Felmyst in Sunwell Plateau (Third boss)

Comentado por FinnrSlayer

Tier 6 For Dummies!(Where they drop)
Head Piece - Hyjal Summit - Archimonde
Gloves Piece - Hyjal Summit - Azgalor
Shoulders Piece - Black Temple - Mother Shahraz
Leggings Piece - Black Temple - Illidari Council
Chest Piece - Black Temple - Illidan Stormrage
Bracer Piece - Sunwell Plateau - Kalecgos
Belt Piece - Sunwell Plateau - Brutallus
Boots Piece - Sunwell Plateau - Felmyst

______ of The Forgotten Conquerer - Priest - Paladin - Warlock
______ of The Forgotten Protector - Warrior - Hunter - Shaman
______ of The Forgotten Vanquisher - Mage - Rogue - Druid

You can exchange the Tokens to gear at Enterance of Hyjal Summit.
Also Exchangable for Season 2 Parts or S3 BG parts (in the new daily island)

Comentado por 195264

Maybe good thnig to try,its made for meele u got agi and armor ignoration here so it might be interesting against plate-warrs,palas

Comentado por Lourss

Best.. Looking.. Item set.. EVAH!

Comentado por 37999

The boots, bracers, and belt for this set aren't a graphical match. They were added in after the fact. The following items match this set graphically:

Boots:
Dreadboots of the Legion and Myrmidon's Treads

Bracers:
Eternium Shell Bracers

Belt:
Girdle of Stability and Belt of Seething Fury

Comentado por 629499

Where can i get this gear? I would loooove it for RP.

Comentado por Gadoink4

Are there any capes that go graphically well with this set?

Comentado por Goliat

They change the skin of the boots and belt on the last patch, worst idea ever, now my favorite transmo set did not match anymore... so sad

Comentado por seizmik

I'm using the Esmaga-osso Congelado no Inferno boots instead on my undead warrior. The colors are roughly the same and the model of the original t6 boots isn't as ncie.

Comentado por Venroh

Tabardo dos Sol Partido goes great with this set.

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