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Comentado por 236567

I hope it will be like the old av :D

Comentado por 406117

The Isle of Conquest is going to be a 40 man battleground featuring two generals, reinforcements, Arathi Basin-esque points of conflict, and lots of siege weapons.

The battleground shares a lot of common themes with Alterac Valley and Wintergrasp, and to a lesser extent, Arathi Basin. Hopefully, it won't become the next Eye of the Storm.

Unlike Eye of the Storm, it isn't all recycled PvP gameplay in a new environment. Assuming it all makes it to live, Isle of Conquest will boast catapults that can fling you over walls, two specific nodes that offer steady bonus honor (the Cobalt Mine and Oil Derrick), the new Glaive Thrower vehicles, and Gunships that, presumably, can be fired from as well as paradropped from. It sounds like the new BG has a lot of potential; let's hope Blizzard does this right.

Comentado por Mumpley

This is a very entertaining Battleground and has the feel of Arathi Basin, Strand of the Ancients and Alterac Valley all mushed together. It introduces an array of controllable Siege Machines at the player's command, and in the Battleground Siege Vehicles play an important role in who wins and who loses.

Main Objective: Destroy the opposing enemies Keep and eliminate their General.

Siege Production Areas: Workshop (Center), Hangar (East), Docks (West)

Resource Nodes: Refinery (Northwest), Cobalt Quarry (Southeast)

THE MACHINES OF WAR

- Demolisher
Holds 3 people, including driver.
Main Abilities: Hurl Boulder, Ram
Obtained by capturing the Workshop.

-Siege Engine
Holds 4 people, including driver.
Main Abilites: Ram, Steam Rush
Main Turret Abilities: Fire Cannon, Steam Blast
Side Turret Abilites: Flame Turret, Napalm.
Obtained by Capturing the Workshop. After capture, you must wait 3 minutes for it to be completely repaired and ready for use. If destroyed in battle, it will respawn after 3 minutes and etc.

-Glaive Thrower
Holds 1 person.
Main Abilites: Glaive Throw, Blade Salvo
Obtained by capturing the Docks.
Alliance and Horde have unique appearances of this vehicle different from one another.

-Catapult
Holds 1 person.
"The Suicide Machine"
Man Abilites: Launch, Shadow Veil
Obtained by capturing the Docks.

-Airship
Unlimited Capacity
Main Abilities: Airship Cannon (Mounted Turret Only)
Paratrooper Abilites: Parachute
Obtained by capturing the Hangar.
The Parachute ability is a passive "buff" given to every occupant of the Airship. Just jump right off the Airship and it auto-deploys. Additionally, the Airship is on an uncontrollable, pre-designated course which circles around your enemies Keep. Lastly, 2 portals near the Hangars allow players to go aboard the ship.

-Turret
Holds 1 Person
Stationary Turret
Main Abilites: Rocket Blast, Incendiary Rocket
Lined along the Towers attached to the Keep.
If destroyed, players can repair it by left clicking the broken turret.

-Huge Seaforium Bomb
Main Abilites: Place Huge Seaforium Bomb
Obtained from inside the Keeps and Workshop.

THE GENERALS

-Horde
Overlord Agmar
Shows up after the Horde's Keep Wall is destroyed. Kill him to win.

-Alliance
High Commander Halford Wyrmbane
Shows up after the Alliance's Keep Wall is destroyed. Kill him to win.

THE RESOURCES
Refinery
Holds valuable oil to fuel the ravaging war machines of the controller.
The faction who has control over this resource gains Oil Refinery

Quarry
A mine filled with precious Cobalt used to smelt thick armor for the controller's armies.
The faction who has control over this resource gains Qaurry

Controlling either one of these nodes yields a constant flow of Honor. Yup, that's right.

Comentado por 306228

They have changed it from the way it is in all the other BG's in WSG EotS and AV alliance is in the north and horde in the south.
By the way the map is coloured it looks like they have turned it around with this one.

Comentado por tviksas

im thinking... will it kill av? :(

Comentado por 407399

This is a great new battleground that opened in 3.2.

It works like AV as in you kill the general and you have reinforcements.

It also works like WG as with the vehicles, workshops and seaforuim bombs (clever blizz, C4uim).

It also works to some extent like AB with the different recources.

Here are some of the highlights of the BG in detail.

use different siege vehicles to breach the enemy wall! The demolisher, Siege engine, Glaive thrower* and catapult!*
Defend your keep using built in turrets (left click to repair)
Capture the Hangar and grab a Seaforuim bomb and skydive right into the opponents base and blow them from the inside-out!
Or even better (I.E. far more humorous) launch yourself with the new catapult right into the enemy base with your paratrooper buddies and help blow them all up!
Use the new glaive thrower to maul opponents from a distance!

Need honor? No problem! Capture the Quarry or Refinery to yield a constant flow of honor right into your back pocket!

Very nice work blizzard! Keep it coming

Comentado por 138326

Here are some interesting things that you can find while in the Isle of Conquest:

In the North-east part of the zone, you can find Scarlet Onslaught ships a few yards from the shore. Looks like the Scarlet's want some of the resources as well!
If you look to the east of the island, you can find a giant land mass, what could that be? hmmm...

Also, if you use the catapult you can go to the hangar and launch yourself on top, you are able to camp yourself and wait for the horde/alliance to leave it defenseless and capture it.

EDIT: it should also be noted that if you go too far to the east (or too far from the island in that matter) you will enter a zone called 'no man's land' and will be instantly killed. This buff will also kill you even if your using a water walk, so no, you can not get to Icecrown via the Isle of Conquest instance.

Comentado por 406117

As of the time I write this, the Hangar is, in my eyes, the most important of the siege production nodes. This stems from two reasons.

One: you can't attack the airship. Where as with the Docks or Workshop, which create vehicles you drive up into the fight, the airship flies on a predetermined course high, high in the sky. While players can use the keep's turrets or go out on foot to destroy approaching vehicles, the airship is too far away to be attacked by players or turrets.

Two: It allows you to paradrop massive amounts of troops into the enemy base. It's interesting to note that while the keep does have turrets, none of them can shoot inside the courtyard. The only threat to paradropping players are other, enemy players. While you'd think the enemy players would have the home field advantage (they respawn there, after all,) that's not the case. The airship can quite effectively lay down suppressive fire that will quickly injure or kill anyone who gets hit.

At first glance, you would think it'd be more effective to bring up a massive machine of war than to just drop in and plant bombs. The reason paradropping is so effective, though, is that there is no limit to how many people can drop inside and plant bombs. You are limited on the other machines, however; two catapults, two glaive throwers, and four demolishers at one time.

Twenty people armed with Huge Seaforium Bombs, assisted by the five player controlled cannons from the airship, can very quickly do a lot of damage to a gate.

Comentado por 253465

Playing as a gnome rogue I found it very easy to cap and hold the flags until reinforcements arrived.

- After taking flag I hid, someone would take the flag but then run off (resource areas) to get into the fun fighting. I would just recap it before it switched fully over. If they came back then start the fight and distracting until others show up.

- If capturing the flag it is easy to sneak in and take it over as people are normally generally running for the Airship/Glaves. Once I cap it if someone goes to take the flag, well timed saps will stop them long enough to almost capture it. On the third sap you have to engage in combat with them.

- If you plan to capture while there are a large number of forces, my team would draw the combat away from the flag while I captured it and then joined the fight. They were normally oblivious to this.

- The refinery/quarry flags are on high areas. This makes it good for rogues to escape and confuse hunters (I had three hunters looking for me on the boat while I was under it).

Only real way to counter it is AOE spam just before you start the capture. But again once they think they have the flag they run away.

Oh and the catapaults are funny. :) Watched some Horde guy launch himself 4 times before he realised it doesn't shoot ammo. Silly moo. :)

Comentado por Anjealous

The landmass u see is Icecrown and the stormwright shelf from scholozar, u can see in the distance the big vykrul fort of icecrown and the scarlet island, but if u keep swimmin u enter No man's land where u die instantly haha

downrated this? ooook lol

Comentado por GaeBolge

Just wanted to compare this to something that I'v seen abit in my battlegroup (Cyclone) and see what other players think. Even with the above strategy which seems to me like a premade strategy (need a well groomed and synergized group to actually stay in there base for awhile, or at least competent players) the enemy faction seems able to balance it out and come out on top by using the Oil Refinery and Quarry's buffs to there advantage.

You've got probably 35 or so players inside a base using C4 on the gate, for 6k or so each blast. But for the other side, grabing the other nodes and for a total of 30% increased seige damage http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=68719, several heavy seige tanks and there own players using catapaults to gain access to C4 themselves, wouldn't the team controling all the nodes have a much higher damage on the door and a higher chance of winning?

Thats what it seems like to me, and it worries me that the more players see this strategy and try it in a highly uncoordinated or fully pugged BG, the higher chance of it not working. Your thoughts? And I do play Horde, so there are quite abit of uncoordinated battlegrounds -.-

Comentado por Fjobben

I think Blizzard did a great job on the new BG, it s big, well made and full of new exotic things, though they need to balance it a little:
I think Blizzard did plan on making it a long BG, like AV was years ago, but now everyone just goes to hangar and onboard the ship and a 7 min win. I think they should ´buff´he dock to equalize the hangar and also the Workshop in the middle, so that if one faction has Hangar, the other one still has a chance, also, they could change the boss to have more chance at the invaders, he always dies instantly. I hope Blizzard will make changes soon, but this BG looks very good.

EDIT: They actually did! Docks are now the best, with workshop and hangar close ahead, in my opinion, go to the Docks and Workshop, hold them until gates are breached, then go hangar and let everyone jump from the airship to the opposite base and let the cannons take down the defenders.

Comentado por TheMaelstorm

Jumping from a bombing ship into enemy base?
What else can you ask from a battleground? :)

Comentado por Gamefr3ak

I can't wait to try this BG, next time I am in a Major city...

Comentado por 134687

from my experience it is a great BG but still has a zerg win strategy to it.

I.E. zerging hangar is now the primary action and the fight ther seems to determine the outcome. Alliance have the advantage as they are a tad closer to it.

Comentado por 431547

The Isle of Conquest is a point of strategic importance for the Alliance and Horde campaigns in Northrend. Serving as an ideal staging ground for operations in Icecrown, each side is determined to secure control of the island. With the 7th Legion and the Kor'kron Guard locked in deadly combat, both factions have issued...

Comentado por 429552

tabard has indeed been obtained already... and, get this... the person slept! twice!

Comentado por Vlad

Biggest issue at the moment is that you can rush for the Airship to capture it and then just have all jump from it down and inside the other factions keep and use the bombs there to blow up the door, after ~3 minutes the gate will be destroyed (when several people help planting bombs) and you can basically zerg the boss. The whole battle can take between 5-10 minutes to win, 500 honor roughly but 3 marks and +1 win for the 100 win achievement in a very short time.

Otherwise a regular battle where you try and defend as much as possible will take anything from 20 to 45 minutes and reward let's say 3k honor but you earn more doing the rush mode in the long run. ;)

Comentado por 283327

I love this place, its so much like Strand of the Ancients and Wintergrasp combined!

Comentado por 243350

Is there any vendor?

Comentado por 251217

The hanger is a bit less important now. The Huge Seaforium Bombs are now consumable, so there is a limit to how much damage you can do.

An additional note, the graveyards work like AV. I won a game because the alliance had all the graveyards except for their own keep. Everyone who died spawned at their graveyard, and so we simple entered their keep and killed their general before they finished clearing though the remainder of our defenders.

Comentado por 438109

Another fun little fact is if you go to the north east corner of the isle you go into a zone saying "Isle of Conquest No Man's Land" :)

Comentado por vigilpriest

Given that the level range is 71-80, and the battles being fairly short, it'd be interesting to see the viability of BG leveling in this zone.

Comentado por rzzr

Currently the docks seems to be the new hanger as Glaives are the new Airship!

Comentado por kapitalizmus

How can i get there?

Comentado por mixter

oil derick? bomber planes? IT'S GLOBAL WARMING ALL OVER AGAIN!

SAVE THE TREES (not counting resto druids)

Comentado por 451085

best place to get honor fast granted you have the time wg also gives great honor , but its a little bit less

Comentado por 466516

I know people say that Blizzard is just ripping off FPS games, but I don't see it as a bad thing. It's like taking two of my favorite things and mixing them together.

Comentado por 272046

So, all the comments on this page are basically positive - so why the hell can I never get a game in while I am playing? I've had 3+ hour queues for this Battleground. I would actually like to see it. :(

I'll keep trying! I hope it's as cool as everyone says.

Comentado por Arsonyst

Hey Isle, I'm real happy for you, and imma let you finish, but AV was one of the best BG's ever.

Comentado por 299179

about how much health does each gate have? the alli/horde gates i mean of course.

Comentado por human414

for some reason the lvl 71-79 span Isle Of Conquest bg never comes up its like lvls 71-79 dont like it cause it says unavailable to me

Comentado por adsamcik

Last battleground is really nice. You can try 3 types of attacs to enemy castle. With catapults: jump over the wall. With siege vehicles: destroy their walls and with air force :) jump with parachute to their courtyard. There are 4 types of rideable vehicles(Siege engine(Better than Wintergrasp), catapult, demolisher and Glaive Thrower) + cannons. added in patch 3.2.0

Comentado por 408955

He swung his axe in a great arc almost entirely severing the head of a felhound looking to creep up behind him. Somewhere nearby a warlock howled in outrage as he felt his connection with the demon severed. The battle was going well, the 7th legion were falling back, however Zaphiroc knew the counterattack would come soon, the commander was a worthy adversary
and had bloodied the Horde many times in its campaign in the harsh land of northrend. Looking around the Warrior noticed the fighting beginning to intensify on the left flank where a few hundred Alliance had dug in aound their catapults, which were busy pounding away at the fortress gate. From somewhere horns sounded, Orcish horns, answering cries were raised and the warriors started to charge, flights of arrows flew overhead pummelling the enemy
position mercilessly, a few arrows came flying back but it was scattered and for the most part way overshot. Zaphiroc smiled, it was a harsh smile, devoid of any true emotion, but the forsaken warrior was incapable of true emotion, dying did that to a man. Joining the fray his axe flew from left to right cleavng shields and limbs, the bloodlust was upon him, the screams of men and horses, the death grunts of horde soldiers, it all went by in a blur. And suddenly it was over.
the Alliance were in full retreat leaving dead and wounded behind. the field belonged to the Horde for now. everywhere soldiers fell to their knees in sheer exhaustion, the battle was hard won, many of the hordes elite, the kor'kron, lay dead and dying. Yes the battlefield belonged to the the Horde, but just how long could it be held against a foe obsessed with ther precious Faith in the so called light. strapping his axe to his back, again Zaphiroc smiled and relished the battles to come..

Comentado por Ketho

-- WotLK Data

Huge Seaforium Bombs (Workshop), Carregar Cequatrum Enorme -> Posicionar Bomba de Cequatrum Enorme -> Huge Seaforium Bomb ->
Seaforium Bombs (Keep), Carregar Cequatrum -> Posicionar Bomba de Cequatrum -> Seaforium Bomb ->
Horde Gate: Front, West, East (All Gates have 600K HP, there really is no difference between Front and Side Gates)
Alliance Gate: Front, West, East (AddOns can track Gate Health by just tracking the SPELL_BUILDING_DAMAGE combat event)

Siege Damage Compared:
(This ofcourse does not represent actual DPS numbers. Damage is mostly higher, with Refinaria de Petróleo & Pedreira)

9425 to 10575 Fire --- (Workshop)
4713 to 5287 Fire --- (Keep)
4242 to 4758 Physical --- (Glaive Thrower)
4242 to 4758 Fire --- (Siege Engine's Siege Turret)
1885 to 2115 Physical --- (Demolisher)
1414 to 1586 Fire --- (Demolisher)
1500 Physical --- (Siege Engine)
943 to 1057 Fire --- (Gunship Cannon)
250 Physical --- Carga Sapadora Termal Global (Goblin Engineering)
150 Physical --- Bomba de Saronita (Engineering)

Notes:
- (*) = Damage component
- (A) = Alliance counterpart
- Glaive Thrower's Blade Salvo doesn't do siege damage
- Oil Refinery & Quarry dont affect - Saronite Bomb & Global Thermal Sapper Charge

Comentado por 408043

I hate the catapult! It doesn't fling me like it should, all it does when i click the "Launch" it just kicks me out of the vehicle as if i clicked the "leave Vehicle" button. Really annoying.

Comentado por Saltytoes

Why does everyone hate this? I LIKE variety in my WoW, not sure about you people, but I am tired of people spammed BG chat with "I want them to remove this" and "This BG sucks"

Comentado por 188466

Important: This battleground has only 2 level brackets: 71-79 and 80 Alone. Despite it being more logic to have level 80 included (just like in level 61-70 bracket in AV for example). So there is no way for your level 80 friends to carry you on this BG.

Comentado por 671059

omg this has a horrible wait time for a queue. i waited all day and not one came up. ive never played this BG and i hear its fun but i never have played before because no one ever queues on my realm. this sucks. i hope it get better with CtA. it had better! can anyone tell me why no one queues at all? is it that bad?
the same thing goes for strand of the ancients. =(

Comentado por Agronok

as of 4.0.1 this BG seems very buggy:
~Half the time the Hangar is broken (either the airship never appears OR you can't teleport to it)
~The front gate of the alliance fort is unbreakable (Might just be my battlegroup)
~Also a few times I've seen a member of the other faction capture nodes BEFORE the match has even started. This is pretty much cheating and needs to be looked into.

Comentado por 167779

Has anyone noticed since with the new patch the pink wall of death :O! we have lost MANY times cause of that damn bug.I rly hope blizz fix that asap since it only spawns on allies siiiiide :S

Comentado por zadck

The Giant Pink Squares seen replacing the Hordes walls were not a bug, they were the invention of the Royal Apothicary Society.For the whole story, click "Show post" on the below post, that I am sure will be rated down soon enough, so you will prob have to click it.

This is a major part of world of warcraft lore.

Comentado por zadck

(From the journal of an unknown RAS alchemist, presumably of high ranking status.)

I assume you have all seen the Giant Pink Squares deployed by our Horde forces in the Isles of Conquest. Originally, the Giant Pink Square, AKA G.P.S, was a project spearheaded by the Royal Apothecary Society.

When you destroy our walls in the Isle of Conquest, a G.P.S remains! The impenetrable wall of a G.P.S is absolute! The Isles of Conquest's G.P.S's were only a test. With the help of our new Goblin allies, we at the Royal Apothecary Society perfected Giant Pink Square technology!

We plan to integrate Giant Pink Square technology in the walls of all our are cities. Last night, I worked with the Goblins deep inside the Undercity and finished created the biggest G.P.S ever, with the intent to drop it over Stormwind! All of Stormwind would be crushed by the G.P.S! The attack took place at midnight.

The clock stuck Midnight.

The pitiful Alliance forces sent their Gnomes to Orgrimmar, according to Intel I gleaned from a man in Stormwind while disguised as a Human, via a potion of ingenious design. The Gnomish attack at midnight was as such a failure. The Gnomes approached Orgrimmar on their planes, and were met immediately by Orcs riding their Wind Rider steeds. At first, the Gnomes managed to take down quite a few of the Orgrimmar troops. I will admit, if there are any among The Alliance who can claim innovation, it is the Gnomes. Luckily, Garrosh Hellscream mounted his own beast, and flew to meet the Gnome fleet. The battle ended soon after. Even with a Gnomish fleet of at least one-hundred planes, they were not accompanied by any heroes of The Alliance. Garrosh rallied the other Orcs, and took down the planes.With the fire burning in their veins, lightning striking at their command, it was by storm and earth, axe and fire that the gnome fleet was defeated.

I finished my work with the Royal Apothecary Society, and we sailed our zeppelin to Stormwind. Under a veil of fog conjured by Tauren Shaman, we succeeded in flying over Stormwind, and we dropped the Gian Pink Square. All of Stormwind was crushed, The Alliance stopped forever.

(The journal continues onto more phantasmal topics following this one. As such, the story, despite its significance, should be taken with a grain of salt.)

Comentado por 438574

This BG in the 80 -84 Bracket is stupid. It's not a BG, it's a game of "Avoid the Siege Engine".
Nerfs to that monstrosity are heavily needed. (And just the vehicles, really, no need to touch the boss)

Comentado por Volviga

It looks like Alliance has a pretty big disadvantage in this BG...Horde Demolitiors can hug the west gate to avoid getting hit by cannonfire and firebombs, whereas Alliance is just saying "look at me, I'm knocking on your door so please burn me to the ground!" when they try to hug the west gate on the Horde base.

Maybe I just can't get around with the cannons btw =P

Oh, and on the other hand: This is the Battleground to get your Wrecking Ball achievement, in the bracket 80-84. Get in a glaive and have fun one-shotting everything in range...

Comentado por ohmslaw1972

QQ. on the flipside. Glaives can sit on the ledge on the west side of the horde keep and blast west gate out of cannon range.

Comentado por 857814

Get the glaives! Protect the glaives! Get the glaives and we win!

Comentado por 713885

As of 23 March 2010 the new level range is level 75 - 85.

Comentado por Thorngral

This place is very easy to win as Horde, Simply send Stealthies to docks to kill Glaives (only kill Glaives no capping), All attack hanger, Bomb East gate with gunships guns while keeping a cannon crew on yer own base.

The Alliance will do one of two things here: Lose, OR Turtle into their keep, If they Turtle, YOU MUST NOT ATTACK. Capture Quarry and Oil Refine and simply wait, Pile up Glaives, Siege engine and atleast 20-30 players to right outside alliance gates.

Alliance will think "oh they gave up lol" and 100% of the time, atleast 20 of them will just run out of base- To be massacred by the Glaives and players waiting for them, This will either win outright, or break their turtle so you can kill boss.

Comentado por 973043

Vehicles are instantly destroyed if u manage to drive them into the keep.

Comentado por 1134492

You know when you, deep in the night, get hungry as hell and remember that there is icecream left on the fridge and you get off the bed already reminding the flavor of that dessert but when you finally get to the kitchen you discover that there was no icecream left at all?

It is the exact same feeling I have when BG invitation pops up and when I click "Join" I see IOC load screen.

PS: I am horde. SO yea...

Comentado por 1091411

As horde this should automatically go on your blacklist. The bot infestation in this BG is possibly the worst i have ever seen in any game.

Comentado por Xemit100

I really hate this battleground (and thats not because im horde, cuz its still boring as alliance). The problem with it is that it plays like starcraft, but you can only view the map from the view of one your units, you can only capture other structures, your units may or may not listen to your commands, and some of them may even try to force commands on you. Now, im not saying strategic battlegrounds are bad, but they're not for people who don't form whole raiding parties before entering!

Comentado por aberdonian

Hidden win condition, this battleground has a maximum duration of 1 hour. So if your team's gate does not fall, and you destroy the enemy gate, you will win, this appears to be regardless of the number of reinforcement count for both teams. This occurred this afternoon for me

Comentado por potaponus

I absolutely love the intro of this epic battleground. Apart from Wowhead, I couldn't find OST, so I downloaded it from here and posted it on Youtube - in case anyone else is interested here.

Comentado por lunamoonraker

A reworking of the Isle of Conquest epic battlefield announced by Blizzard on 19 Feb 2021 in an official post to go live the following week.

The details provided are;

Isle of Conquest

These changes are intended to discourage base-rushing and have all control points be important, not just Hangar.
Glaive Thrower health has been increased by 40%.
Alliance and Horde Commander health increased by 50%.
Demolisher health increased by 25%.
Catapult health increased by 100%.
The amount of siege damage required to break down keep walls has been increased by 20%.

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