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Jerot
if your asking for achievements and stats, why not just armory them? too time consuming? use "compare achievements".
And actually I have used fake linking once, to convince my raid lead that I pugged a few people and cleared the rest of our saved ulduar xD. he doesnt have a very good sense of humor =/
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doublediamond410
Just because someone has an achievement ... doesn't mean they are going to be good.
Precisely.
I got my Sarth3D achievement and title the first time I went in with the guild.
It took me three more attempts to actually survive it.
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Overcome
Maybe I'm just having no luck in the game, but I'm finding EXTREMELY hard to get all epics before raiding. Though when I check my gear out on be.imba and wow heros, they say i'm good enough for 25 mans.
I hate it when people ask for the achievements to get into raids though. How am I supposed to get them if I can't go without the freaking achievement?
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doublediamond410
I hate it when people ask for the achievements to get into raids though. How am I supposed to get them if I can't go without the freaking achievement?
Because pug'ing a raid is still more risky and troublesome than doing within your guild, where it's more likely to be coordinated and easy to learn.
Also, it comes from the (mistaken) assumption that if you've done it once, you've done it a lot and you know what you're doing.
Unfortunately, there's plenty of room for people to wipe through a raid and still get an achievement while competent players without it get passed over.
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Overcome
Because pug'ing a raid is still more risky and troublesome than doing within your guild, where it's more likely to be coordinated and easy to learn.
Also, it comes from the (mistaken) assumption that if you've done it once, you've done it a lot and you know what you're doing.
Unfortunately, there's plenty of room for people to wipe through a raid and still get an achievement while competent players without it get passed over.
You're correct on this and I do realize it. It's still frustrating to no end though. I guess my real problem is finding a guild that's not focused on Ulduar and still doing the other raids for people to learn. I can only learn so much from watching the video's and reading about the encounters. I need the actual experience.
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Jakal
I can see why people ask that you show the achievement first, however I never ask that and here is why:
-All an achievement proves is that the character in question did "X". What it does not prove is that he didn't run into an Emalon pug and die in the first nova, or fly under the radar in Naxx dying at every boss encounter.
-Because how are they supposed to get the achievement to get into the raid if this is their first time? kinda like in TBC how you needed Kara gear to do Heroics, and Heroic gear to do Kara. I am usually willing to give the player the benefit of the doubt, especially if they are straight forward about it and say it is their first time.
-Because person with Achieve is not necessarily better than person without achieve.
I know some people like the feeling that "our raid will have a better chance of being successful because everyone has the ahcieve", but I prefer the "We pugged it with players who are doing this for their first time!" Fist-pump-of-awesome, party-in-the-streets, uncork-the-champagne victory celebration that comes with winning against the odds! =D
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MikadoGG
There are a couple tiers of achievements in raiding. First tier being "So-So killed X-boss on X date." Unless we are talking about Alganon or pre-nerf Sunwell or something similar, these mean little to nothing. The only pve achievements that show anything at all are hard modes, no deaths on x-bosses, or something like that, and even then it could mean you just had good healers/tanks in the raid. Even in many top end guilds noobs fly under the radar in raids. So this whole new trend of requiring achievement links is completely illogical.
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Post by
Zamfix
I can see why people ask that you show the achievement first, however I never ask that and here is why:
-All an achievement proves is that the character in question did "X". What it does not prove is that he didn't run into an Emalon pug and die in the first nova, or fly under the radar in Naxx dying at every boss encounter.
-Because how are they supposed to get the achievement to get into the raid if this is their first time? kinda like in TBC how you needed Kara gear to do Heroics, and Heroic gear to do Kara. I am usually willing to give the player the benefit of the doubt, especially if they are straight forward about it and say it is their first time.
-Because person with Achieve is not necessarily better than person without achieve.
I know some people like the feeling that "our raid will have a better chance of being successful because everyone has the ahcieve", but I prefer the "We pugged it with players who are doing this for their first time!" Fist-pump-of-awesome, party-in-the-streets, uncork-the-champagne victory celebration that comes with winning against the odds! =D
You're missing the entire point. The whole point is that PuGs that require the achievement DON'T WANT people who haven't been in there before! They're for geared, experienced people who want badges or offspec gear. If I'm running a PuG, I'm not running it to gear up people who just hit 80. If you want to gear up your character run it with your guild.
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georgelopes
does anyone notice that at the top of the achievement it says
Achieved by:_____ 4/25/09 what ever
its not hard to tell a fake!
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